I searched and read through some of the threads and really didn't find a conclusive answer to what I am looking for. So I decided to create a new thread.
My question is: Is there any way to root the N1 that has Stock FRF91? I'm not a noob in rooting, just wanted to make sure. I don't really care about unlocking the bootloader (warranty isn't an issue for me).
Can I just use the fastboot oem unlock command to unlock bootloader then install the custom recovery and install custom roms? Or is there a new method to rooting Stock FRF91 currently.
Thanks
Yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715798
You're welcome. Get familiar with the search tool.
Frankenstooge said:
Yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715798
You're welcome. Get familiar with the search tool.
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The instructions in that link wont work for stock FRF91 with stock recovery. I couldnt get the Amon recovery to load onto my phone in order to flash the root. I have tried to ADB it 5 times and each time it says successful, but when i go into recovery all i get is the android with the !.
By all means OP, you can try this and if you get it to work, let me know what you did. I tried 5 times and couldnt get it to work.
my bootloader is unlocked also.
ecapox said:
The instructions in that link wont work for stock FRF91 with stock recovery. I couldnt get the Amon recovery to load onto my phone in order to flash the root. I have tried to ADB it 5 times and each time it says successful, but when i go into recovery all i get is the android with the !.
By all means OP, you can try this and if you get it to work, let me know what you did. I tried 5 times and couldnt get it to work.
my bootloader is unlocked also.
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after you pushed custom recovery, did you press Volume Down button while rebooting to go directly into recovery? because after you install custom recovery and let the phone reboot, the stock recovery will remain; you should try to go into recovery immediately after pushing the amon ra recovery without letting the phone boot up
let me know if that works
What is the method for rooting "without using SDK tools"? There are emulator apps in the market but they refuse to work without super user permissions? I have stock frf91 and looking for a way to root my nexus one?
jblazea50 said:
after you pushed custom recovery, did you press Volume Down button while rebooting to go directly into recovery? because after you install custom recovery and let the phone reboot, the stock recovery will remain; you should try to go into recovery immediately after pushing the amon ra recovery without letting the phone boot up
let me know if that works
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that did it sir. thank you. Was it like this in 2.1? I dont remember having it revery back to stock recovery when following the tutorials. Then again maybe i never let it completely boot back up...
ecapox said:
that did it sir. thank you. Was it like this in 2.1? I dont remember having it revery back to stock recovery when following the tutorials. Then again maybe i never let it completely boot back up...
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that's great; it was the same on 2.1, you probably just can't recall at the moment
glad it worked
jblazea50 said:
that's great; it was the same on 2.1, you probably just can't recall at the moment
glad it worked
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Interesting. So once you use the Amon recovery it sticks as long as you dont reboot after you install it. I guess i was just lucky the first time!
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I don't want to jump on IRC and I don't know where else to post this, but I have a small request, if possible. Can you fine folks make the recovery flasher so that you can add your own updated recovery images? Currently, the flasher only only installs clockwork 2.0.1.0 and there is a version 2.0.1.3 available, but no way to make it stick.
Install ROM Manager from Koush on the android market, and update your recovery that way.
It does not stick. Please read my post. Its easy enough for you to check yourself. I have Rom Manager already. It cannot work any magic. Once you reboot, you are back to the original version that the recovery flasher puts on there.
really? mine works great....
Boot into clockwork and look at the version number. No, it does not.
Rom Manager thinks its flashing an updated version, but thats not the case.
Look... I am not a liar, and don't appreciate being called a liar. I am just trying to help you. In my ROM Manager it says current and latest is 2.0.1.3. In my Clockwork Recovery it says version 2.0.1.3. I have restarted it three times into recovery, and it says the same number. So, sir, please refrain from being a jerk, and sorry if I came off that way.
And I just confirmed with another friend that his works great also.
Post an image please.
Nobody called you a liar, and if you think I am being a jerk, you are way too sensitive.
I have this same problem. Mine is at 2.0.1.0. I believe koush was in the irc channel last night saying something about it.
Thanks for the update.
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Look... I am not a liar, and don't appreciate being called a liar. I am just trying to help you. In my ROM Manager it says current and latest is 2.0.1.3. In my Clockwork Recovery it says version 2.0.1.3. I have restarted it three times into recovery, and it says the same number. So, sir, please refrain from being a jerk, and sorry if I came off that way.
And I just confirmed with another friend that his works great also.
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Apparently if you reboot into recovery using rom manager it will show you are in the updated version, but if you boot into recovery manually from a completely shut down phone you will see that you are actually in the old version and you were never updated at all. The thought is that if you reboot into recovery from rom manager it loads their recovery image but if you manually boot into recovery it doesn't. The reason is that the nand is still locked, so rom manager can't actually reflash the recovery image without being in recovery at the time.
I am currently at work... If I had a camera I would. Ask some other people to do it, and I promise they will tell you the same thing. If you read in the Recovery Reflash Tool forum, you will see others talking about this very same thing.
I see just as many from the other side of the fence. What do you think of that?
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Apparently if you reboot into recovery using rom manager it will show you are in the updated version, but if you boot into recovery manually from a completely shut down phone you will see that you are actually in the old version and you were never updated at all. The thought is that if you reboot into recovery from rom manager it loads their recovery image but if you manually boot into recovery it doesn't. The reason is that the nand is still locked, so rom manager can't actually reflash the recovery image without being in recovery at the time.
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This makes sense. This is how I rebooted into recovery. Thanks!
Update - Sorry, you were right. What he said is true. Mine is still 2.0.0.7, just shows up at 2.0.1.3 when you reboot via the ROM Manager. Again, I apologize.
that's correct, koush's rom manager uses a fake flash to upgrade the recovery versions. It does not stick if you boot normally into recovery without rom manager. If we weren't pursuing other things you will like even more we would make a way to flash custom recoveries. But we will instead work to eventually give you true nand unlocked everything. just in the meantime except what you have please. You don't always have to have the latest! I
If a serious issue is found requiring a real update we will get to it.
Please don't take this as a demand, or dissatisfaction. I am very happy with what you folks have done so far and can certainly wait for whatever the team decides to do I was just reading that some versions of Clockwork were having trouble with Froyo and was looking to the future. Thanks for replying
sdorn is correct. Hitting recovery from ClockworkMod is 2.0.1.3 and a fresh boot into recovery (adb, hboot) is 2.0.1.0. The recovery will probably have to be flashed from unrevoked's tool to get up to the latest version or until NAND is unlocked outside of hboot.
not sure how but i have clock work 2.0.1.3 as my clockwork and it says in every time i bring it up if i knew how to take a screen shot in recovery id show ya,
junjlo said:
not sure how but i have clock work 2.0.1.3 as my clockwork and it says in every time i bring it up if i knew how to take a screen shot in recovery id show ya,
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Power the phone off, and then boot into recovery by holding Vol Down + Power and selecting RECOVERY. You have 2.0.1.0 installed.
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Mods may want to lock this thread ... it continues to be a debate when the question was answered by Shadowmite.
fennellchrid said:
This makes sense. This is how I rebooted into recovery. Thanks!
Update - Sorry, you were right. What he said is true. Mine is still 2.0.0.7, just shows up at 2.0.1.3 when you reboot via the ROM Manager. Again, I apologize.
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Very classy response.
Hi, I currently have a rooted Captivate and I'm running stock firmware on my phone. I have several questions if some could help me out that would be great.
Is it is possible to get the official Froyo update if your phone is rooted?
Also if it isn't possible, if I do a factory reset will it unroot my phone?
My friend was the who rooted my phone for me and I don't recall what he used to root it. So IF I can't get the update while rooted and doing a factory reset doesn't remove the root, how can I unroot my phone and do I need to know the specific way my friend rooted it?
I dont think, root with do anything against upgrading your phone using Keis mini....formatting or deleting any chache wont unroot your phone...
but to be on safer side
Use this to unroot...just put ur phone on debugging by going to settings>>applications>>development>>uSB debugging on
click on the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
download the software as per ur computer (Mac or Windows) Extract it...an plug the phone with computer...and just click unroot...it will do the rest...
i tested with one of my captivates when 2.2 was released.
i rooted and unlocked the phone
then i updated to 2.2 through kies
no problems at all
Pirateghost said:
i tested with one of my captivates when 2.2 was released.
i rooted and unlocked the phone
then i updated to 2.2 through kies
no problems at all
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how do u unlock stock 2.2
Custom Recovery Removal?
viny2cool said:
I dont think, root with do anything against upgrading your phone using Keis mini....formatting or deleting any chache wont unroot your phone...
but to be on safer side
Use this to unroot...just put ur phone on debugging by going to settings>>applications>>development>>uSB debugging on
click on the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
download the software as per ur computer (Mac or Windows) Extract it...an plug the phone with computer...and just click unroot...it will do the rest...
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Will unrooting also remove the custom Clockwork Recovery? If not, does anyone know how to remove it? Thanks!
viny2cool said:
how do u unlock stock 2.2
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What do you mean by unlock 2.2? Like a custom Rom?
jervill said:
Will unrooting also remove the custom Clockwork Recovery? If not, does anyone know how to remove it? Thanks!
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When you unroot you should not have the option to go into cwr, seeing how you need root permissions to do so.
viny2cool said:
how do u unlock stock 2.2
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not sure. i havent received a stock 2.2 in my inventory yet. i will try and get one
jervill said:
Will unrooting also remove the custom Clockwork Recovery? If not, does anyone know how to remove it? Thanks!
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no. Clockworkrecovery is simply an update.zip on your sdcard and does NOT require root at all, just reboot to recovery and reinstall packages....that will boot you into clockwork
iwontletme said:
What do you mean by unlock 2.2? Like a custom Rom?
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unlock as in have the ability to use any SIM card from other carriers in your phone
iwontletme said:
When you unroot you should not have the option to go into cwr, seeing how you need root permissions to do so.
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wrong. see response above
Pirateghost said:
no. Clockworkrecovery is simply an update.zip on your sdcard and does NOT require root at all, just reboot to recovery and reinstall packages....that will boot you into clockwork
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so u mean i can flash Clockworkrecovery.zip on stock unrooted phone...and i can get clock work recovery to flash custom roms?
viny2cool said:
so u mean i can flash Clockworkrecovery.zip on stock unrooted phone...and i can get clock work recovery to flash custom roms?
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absolutely. clockwork recovery is done without being in the OS....so it does NOT require root access
when you install rom manager on a samsung galaxy s phone, and click on the flash clockwork mod, it puts the update.zip file on the sdcard. once you reboot to regular recovery (3 button), just click reinstall packages, it will reboot back into stock recovery. click reinstall packages again and it will kick you right into clockwork recovery.....has nothing to do with root
Pirateghost said:
absolutely. clockwork recovery is done without being in the OS....so it does NOT require root access
when you install rom manager on a samsung galaxy s phone, and click on the flash clockwork mod, it puts the update.zip file on the sdcard. once you reboot to regular recovery (3 button), just click reinstall packages, it will reboot back into stock recovery. click reinstall packages again and it will kick you right into clockwork recovery.....has nothing to do with root
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that makes sense....so i learned something new again...will do that in my next replacement cappy....
Pirateghost said:
no. Clockworkrecovery is simply an update.zip on your sdcard and does NOT require root at all, just reboot to recovery and reinstall packages....that will boot you into clockwork
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but if that is the case then why does my phone always boot into clockwork recovery, even after deleting update.zip? i did flashed it exactly as you said - that option in rom manager and then two times from the stock recovery. but now i can't seem to get rid of it any more.
though i have read that it is included in some kernels? and i did flash serendipity, could that be the reason that i can't get into stock recovery?
notthere said:
but if that is the case then why does my phone always boot into clockwork recovery, even after deleting update.zip? i did flashed it exactly as you said - that option in rom manager and then two times from the stock recovery. but now i can't seem to get rid of it any more.
though i have read that it is included in some kernels? and i did flash serendipity, could that be the reason that i can't get into stock recovery?
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thats exactly why...its included with the custom kernel you are running....
and here i thought recovery was part of the bootloader and something that does not (usually) get replaced. if you could explain how these things are separated (i have my theories but i'd love to know how it actually works ) that would be great, otherwise i'm simply relieved that i am still able to have my phone repaired on warranty if i ever have to
Hi,
I have just performed the revone s-off on my phone, then rooted it using PaulOBrien's simple method then finally flashed clockwork recovery.
Everything seemed to work fine and my phone booted perfectly.
Now i have just come to reboot it and it after trying out clockwork recovery has just been non stop boot looping. I can get into recovery fine still but im not really sure how best to proceed with the least pain possible. Im quite happy on the stock rom so dont really want to start again on the phone with a new rom if i can avoid it.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
radeonorama said:
Hi,
I have just performed the revone s-off on my phone, then rooted it using PaulOBrien's simple method then finally flashed clockwork recovery.
Everything seemed to work fine and my phone booted perfectly.
Now i have just come to reboot it and it after trying out clockwork recovery has just been non stop boot looping. I can get into recovery fine still but im not really sure how best to proceed with the least pain possible. Im quite happy on the stock rom so dont really want to start again on the phone with a new rom if i can avoid it.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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Reboot to bootloader
Connect to pc in fastboot mode
Using adb <fastboot erase cache>
Reboot.
Try and see if it works
rider5512 said:
Reboot to bootloader
Connect to pc in fastboot mode
Using adb <fastboot erase cache>
Reboot.
Try and see if it works
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Thanks for that!
Just given it a shot and it doesnt seem to have made a difference.
Any other ideas?
radeonorama said:
Thanks for that!
Just given it a shot and it doesnt seem to have made a difference.
Any other ideas?
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Does your phone happen to be a sprint version?
Not quite sure why you followed Paul's method as it is pretty redundant these days. All you have to do is flash the Superuser.zip from CWM for root access...
Can you still get into CWM? If so, flash this via adb sideload:
http://download.clockworkmod.com/superuser/superuser.zip
EddyOS said:
Not quite sure why you followed Paul's method as it is pretty redundant these days. All you have to do is flash the Superuser.zip from CWM for root access...
Can you still get into CWM? If so, flash this via adb sideload:
http://download.clockworkmod.com/superuser/superuser.zip
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I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time. Regreting it now tho! :-/
Just tried the adb sideload and all flashed fine but still now working
Any more ideas?! Feeling stupid now!
So I'm assuming CWM recognised the adb sideload and flashed the ROM file and said success afterwards? Might be worth trying CM 10.1 instead of a ROM using Aroma (seeing as it's crap and keeps crashing)
EddyOS said:
So I'm assuming CWM recognised the adb sideload and flashed the ROM file said success afterwards? Might be worth trying CM 10.1 instead of a ROM using Aroma (seeing as it's crap and keeps crashing)
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Yeah, it all flashed fine. As for cm an aroma, you lost me a little there, im just tr to keep stock, i havent flashed an aroma rom or anything? Sorry if i have confused things somewhere.
Any more ideas?
Oh and its just a unbranded orange, not spirit. Sorry i missed your comment there tws101
Hey everyone. I just recently bough a new Atrix HD since my other phone broke but anyways...
1. i noticed i can access the root of the phone (like / partition) but i cant edit it? so is this sign of root? I tried installing superuser binary and it didn't let me so i guess there is no root.
So
How do i boot into the boot loader?
What is the best method for rooting and instaling SU on my atriix (running 4.1.1)?
How do i flash a recovery and which one is best if i want to get cm11? (on my other phone i needed a completely different recovery to get kitakt)
Do i need to unlock bootloader first then root or vice versa?
So the more details the better i will understand if THANK YOU ahead of time.
sorry for such noob questions
PS yes i did google on how to do this and its a bit choppy. like no step 1 step 2 step 3.
russian392 said:
Hey everyone. I just recently bough a new Atrix HD since my other phone broke but anyways...
1. i noticed i can access the root of the phone (like / partition) but i cant edit it? so is this sign of root? I tried installing superuser binary and it didn't let me so i guess there is no root.
So
How do i boot into the boot loader?
What is the best method for rooting and instaling SU on my atriix (running 4.1.1)?
How do i flash a recovery and which one is best if i want to get cm11? (on my other phone i needed a completely different recovery to get kitakt)
Do i need to unlock bootloader first then root or vice versa?
So the more details the better i will understand if THANK YOU ahead of time.
sorry for such noob questions
PS yes i did google on how to do this and its a bit choppy. like no step 1 step 2 step 3.
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No, its far from choppy. The only root method that works on 4.1.1 is Motochopper, and thats an automated script. So how you can say its choppy is beyond my understanding.
Since you are new to AHD, I highly recommend you reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2350721
I also recommend you download Mythtools, which is the all in one tool for AHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262726
And download Philztouch recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552622
Bootloader locked = enjoy stock forever
Bootloader unlocked = you can customize
Flashing a ROM is the same as with any device, boot to CWM/TWRP recovery, wipe down, and flash
palmbeach05 said:
No, its far from choppy. The only root method that works on 4.1.1 is Motochopper, and thats an automated script. So how you can say its choppy is beyond my understanding.
Since you are new to AHD, I highly recommend you reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2350721
I also recommend you download Mythtools, which is the all in one tool for AHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262726
And download Philztouch recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552622
Bootloader locked = enjoy stock forever
Bootloader unlocked = you can customize
Flashing a ROM is the same as with any device, boot to CWM/TWRP recovery, wipe down, and flash
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OOps my bad. By chopy i meant things i found on google. like they just say "this is how you root it" but do i have to unlock bootloader first like on htc or do i root first? etc
I just used motochoper and everything runs great.
i get how to flash a rom haha but do i unlock bootloader first then recovery?
Never mind.
Thank you so much this is so much simpler than my HTC (coming from an lg where you just plug and play) so pretty much this is nothing new to me.
Thanks again.
Now....which kit kat rom would be best right now?
russian392 said:
OOps my bad. By chopy i meant things i found on google. like they just say "this is how you root it" but do i have to unlock bootloader first like on htc or do i root first? etc
I just used motochoper and everything runs great.
i get how to flash a rom haha but do i unlock bootloader first then recovery?
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Yes. You have to unlock the bootloader to flash anything, including a custom recovery.
Um....okay the fastboot part....
How do i flash CWM after i have unlocked the bootloader which i just did. I just kind of wonder....do i have to dowload the 400+ megabyte .zip for fastboot?! or im getting something wrong.
okay awkward....
i flashed the recovery and it said the recovery (i got cwm from official cm instructions) and it said it installed fine.
The phone boots and stuff...but when i cant do the following
1. Reboot into recovery using volume down and power button
2. Reboot into recovery using fastboot command (it reboots but instead of a recovery it gives me an android with an exclamation point in a red triangle)
russian392 said:
okay awkward....
i flashed the recovery and it said the recovery (i got cwm from official cm instructions) and it said it installed fine.
The phone boots and stuff...but when i cant do the following
1. Reboot into recovery using volume down and power button
2. Reboot into recovery using fastboot command (it reboots but instead of a recovery it gives me an android with an exclamation point in a red triangle)
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You're booting into stock recovery. You have to change install-recovery.sh to install-recovery.sh.bak You should find it in /system/etc I believe
Then reflash the custom recovery
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You're booting into stock recovery. You have to change install-recovery.sh to install-recovery.sh.bak You should find it in /system/etc I believe
Then reflash the custom recovery
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okay gotcha
ill give it a go in a bit and report how things went....
other than this little mishap everything was quite simple (thank you devs)
so is the cm11 nightlies any good?
russian392 said:
okay gotcha
ill give it a go in a bit and report how things went....
other than this little mishap everything was quite simple (thank you devs)
so is the cm11 nightlies any good?
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Not sure, personally I'm still on stock 4.1.1. I came from the A4G and the furthest we got was 4.2.2, so yeah, you could say that I'm staying with what I'm comfortable for the moment.
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Not sure, personally I'm still on stock 4.1.1. I came from the A4G and the furthest we got was 4.2.2, so yeah, you could say that I'm staying with what I'm comfortable for the moment.
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alright. ive used 4.1 and 4.2 and 4.3 on other devices and im getting kind of bored. im that type, i dont sit to long on one rom
recovery works like a charm! thank you so much for all the help
guess its time to test kitkat
I have a us cellular note 5, was trying to install a rom, failed and ended up deleting my system folder. I flashed the stock rom with odin, but the phone can only boot to the logo stops, and then goes to recovery mode
Nic546 said:
I have a us cellular note 5, was trying to install a rom, failed and ended up deleting my system folder. I flashed the stock rom with odin, but the phone can only boot to the logo stops, and then goes to recovery mode
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If you flashed a different recovery like TWRP then you'll have to use that again.. Have you rooted the phone before? If so, you probably have to flash stock firmware files one by one in Odin including flashing the recovery.
MrMike2182 said:
If you flashed a different recovery like TWRP then you'll have to use that again.. Have you rooted the phone before? If so, you probably have to flash stock firmware files one by one in Odin including flashing the recovery.
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I have rooted it, any special order for flashing the files?
Nic546 said:
I have rooted it, any special order for flashing the files?
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Since you've rooted the phone I'm gonna say the easiest way to fix this right now is to re-flash TWRP and download a rom that one of the devs on here have created and push it to the phone and use TWRP to flash it.. This is the best way for now since you are going to need a LOT more information and a better understanding of how to fully remove the root access because you cannot run a stock rom while rooted.. After you at least get it going then read around on here and you'll find all the answers and ways to fix things by those of us who've already been in your spot.
MrMike2182 said:
Since you've rooted the phone I'm gonna say the easiest way to fix this right now is to re-flash TWRP and download a rom that one of the devs on here have created and push it to the phone and use TWRP to flash it.. This is the best way for now since you are going to need a LOT more information and a better understanding of how to fully remove the root access because you cannot run a stock rom while rooted.. After you at least get it going then read around on here and you'll find all the answers and ways to fix things by those of us who've already been in your spot.
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I'm trying to flash a custom rom but the most I can get it to do is hang up on the Samsung logo or a black screen, is there any specific roms I should try?