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Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they have no services or function

As topic.
5.0.6 via kang
Just did a full restart so I can get the full picture, this is what is open, sorted into categories of stuff which does have services (which im happy with), those with services (which i think ive dissabled and shouldnt be there), those with no services which shouldnt be there:
services and happy:
HTC IME mod
live wallpapers
email
calendar
auto memory manager
news and weather
google mail
music
setcpu
3g watchdog
juice defender + plotter
beautiful widgets
engaget
helixlauncher
taskiller [what im looking at it with]
services and not happy:
clock
bluetooth share
cm updater (ive turned it to manual only)
bluetooth file transfer
finance (ive told it NOT to update, i dont use it really)
camera (does it need to sit open in the background?)
notes
klaxon
cachemate
appbrain market sync
mp3 store
weatherbug elite
no service and dont want:
shopsavy
police stream
Does anyone know of any program i can use to directly stop these unwanted apps to stop running every time, or any individual information on the programs?
cheers

Why do you not want them preloaded?

The main reason im being such a memory whore is because my launcher lags like crazy under 70-80mb. I have 250ish apps, and see many people with a similar setup demonstrating on youtube, and theirs is instantly responsive, as is mine >120mb free. If I leave all these apps etc free, i end up on ~40mb which makes my old nokia 6300 looks like flash gordon compared to my launcher :/

Re: Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they
Android preloads apps into its memory for fast load times.
Just because an app is loaded does not mean it is using any resources. They're usually just sitting there idle. Android also frees up memory as needed.
That said, I've seen apps that can control what apps you never want preloaded. Search around on the market.
Looks like the slowdowns from a lack of ram still exist. I hope froyo will help with this. This problem makes the lower end android phones run slow.
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[Q] Problem with all apps connected to the internet.

I been using Advanced Task Manager 4.1 before I updated to froyo and it killed all my unwanted apps very well. All the roms I tryed on 2.2 do this: they leave the apps connected to the internet open. It just wastes my battery. I tryed a bunch of other task killers and none of them work, the apps still stay open. I need to kill the apps untill the next time I open them. Anyone know a way to do that on 2.2 or what my prolem is?

Might want to state what your problem is or ask a question

I edited my post, any way you or someone else can help

artii829 said:
I been using Advanced Task Manager 4.1 before I updated to froyo and it killed all my unwanted apps very well. All the roms I tryed on 2.2 do this: they leave the apps connected to the internet open. It just wastes my battery. I tryed a bunch of other task killers and none of them work, the apps still stay open. I need to kill the apps untill the next time I open them. Anyone know a way to do that on 2.2 or what my prolem is?
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For one thing you might want to download DroidWall and disable internet access to all unwanted apps. It is like Firewall for your android.
Also try Taskiller. I m using it and it kills apps and never let them start until screen turns on again.
-Sekhar

See thats the thing, I want them to be off untill I turn them on myself. I think I'll re-download DroidWall (I have known about it) and all task killers do the same thing I guess, which is kill the apps untill the next time you turn on your screen =/

Could you give us an example of these apps that are "staying connected" and some indication of what you're testing to know that they are staying connected?

Apps like: Bloo (Facebook), Hi IM, Android Market, Weather Bug, & others that dont use internet like Astrid Tasks, Startup Cleaner Pro, Titanium Backup, TeslaLED & toggle apps.
I just want them closed when I kill them. Right now I have a shortcut to managing apps so I click on the running tab and manually force close them but thats a pain.
INDICATION: killing weather bug and the notification with the temperature stays.
After killing the apps I have listed they pop up again in the task manager 30 seconds later.

[Q] [Gingerbread O3D] Apps randomly open without physically opening them

So i just installed the O3D leaked Rom on my Thrill last night. i noticed this morning that there were 9 apps open. i stopped all, and they were open again within 5 minutes. i froze some of them, but some are apps i use occasionally, but i dont always want them open.
Any ideas on how to keep these apps from opening automatically??

Its just a part of how Linux manages memory. It doesn't necessarily affect performance, but if it makes you feel better, you can install autostarts and disable states at which those apps start.
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I checked that out and I'm kind of scared to turn some of these off. My main reason for wanting to cut these off is because the battery is dead in 4 hours. This started happening after the gb update. Do you have any suggestions to increase batt life? I already have gps and bt disabled.

Juice defender for one. Instead of a task killer, use autokiller and use one of the presets like aggressive. Autostarts again, sort by app, and disable all of the crap for all events. Turn wifi sleep to when screen is off. If you have a bunch of google accounts syncing, turn off the sync for the services you dont us or need in account and sync settings. Should help quite a bit. Oh, remove unnecessary widgets especially fb and google search (lots of resources, its weid). Remove apps you dont use.
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I have an LG Thrill running O3D gb 21a rooted. I have noticed the same issue.
I installed super manager(search in app market) and turned on the auto memory cleanup. Now everytime I lock my phone and unlock it,I have about 250mb free memory.

why do some apps run although I did not start them

hey guys
I am really confused as to why some apps show to be running in
settings---manage applications--running services
like for example contract killer, office suits, lets golf 3d, NFL pro 2012
knowing that i did not even turn them on, so when I press stop those apps, after few minutes they show up again in running services.
Why is that?????

Most apps have 'listeners' that listen for events. When this event occurs, they are woken by the OS to do whatever they want to so. This is why so many stock apps are impossible to kill, they just start up again.
I use Android Assistant to stop apps starting at boot, and Autorun manager to disable all listeners for apps I do not want active. I think Autorun Manager can do it all itself, however, but I bought AA first.
I kill all things I do not like such as WiFi sharing, Bluetooth sharing, Social and Music Hubs. Be careful not to kill services that are required!
You do need a Rooted phone for this to work, however. It was my main reason for rooting once again. It is well worth it, and not as riskly / tricky as flashing a custom ROM. Be aware you may need to 'unroot' to get OTA updates and warranty fixes.
I also use droidwall to prevent apps getting to the internet by GPS, WiFi or both. That makes me feel a lot safer!
Overall my battery life seems 50% greater, and my mobile data access is about 50% less.

battery died overnight

I charged my phone last night to 100% and unplugged it.
When I woke up now it was off. So I turned it on. It went to the LG screen, then Rogers, then went black. Tried it again, same thing.
So I plugged it into the wall and the silver battery icon came up flashing. 5 minutes later now it has 1 red bar.
Why would it die over night? Nothing was running.

It might be because of a widget,not stock.

Yeah.....u definitely had something running in the background.

Make a list of all apps you have installed.
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Same happened to me about 4 times.
Its usually a sync process that drains the phone. I guess Exchange server sync.

well I recently installed Go Launcher. I always go application manager and stop all when I am not using the phone though.
Other than this the battery has been better on gingerbread.

ok there are a few apps that keep starting up even though I stop all applications.
- messaging
- rom manager
- youtube
- winamp
- google +
how can I stop them from constantly opening?
youtube and winamp are both widgets on my screens. but on stock froyo if I "stop all" they wouldn't suck up power or anything.
I never use google + so I don't know why it's there.
rom manager don't use anymore since I am not rooted.

If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them

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If you dont hav titanium backup pro then get it its so worth the couple bucks u can freeze apps so they cant run or u can totally for the other apps u use not much u can do about them running in the background. What kills my batt the most is auto sync and auto baackground data i always turn them off when im not using them
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titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2

umirin said:
titanium backup requires root. I just upgraded to gingerbread 2.3 so I don't want to play with root right now.
I need help though because only since I upgraded these apps keep coming up.
I am KILLING apps with application manager. These pop up like minutes later.
- email
- google plus
- winamp
- gmail
- messaging
why are these popping up constantly? I never had this with froyo 2.2.2
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the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles

xstokerx said:
the only way to do any thing about it is to root and task killers dont help any these things are accully worse cuz the os just opens the programs again and that uses cpu cycles
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I know I read task killlers are not worth it.
But as I said, this did NOT happen with Froyo 2.2.2.
I don't even use google +, why would it ever open?
I didn't open my email, SYNC IS OFF. Yet it's there.
Messaging is open, not texting anyone. In froyo I always killed messaging when I was done. It never came back.
ROM manager has no reason to be open since I am not rooted.

apps like Rogers navigation - NEVER use just randomly pop up in the application manager.
Someone must have an answer for this.
My phone is NOT rooted. Stock gingerbread 2.3.

Hey umirin,
I too had noticed that the phone would constantly restart random apps that weren't being used, despite seemingly nothing happening. It pissed me off to no end, but the reason why it happens is because the programmers write in queues for the programs to start, such as 'screen on,' 'screen off,' and my personal favorites, 'wifi state change' and 'connectivity change.' There's an app called autostarts on the market (it costs about a dollar i think) that will let you disable all of these, so now I have no random apps starting and my battery life is much better There are free ones on the market you can try as well just to see, but they didn't give me nearly the access to all the queues that autostarts does. It's a damn good app. Also, if you want to freeze apps and you don't want to fork out for the paid version of Titanium Backup, AntTek App Manager can freeze all the apps you want for free good luck improving your battery life, I just bought a 3500 mAh battery on amazon to improve mine lol and now the phone is a beast.

the phone is just storing them in ram its not using cpu cycles or battery wile in ram its so if you do use the apps it loads faster

True, while it is in the ram it does not use CPU cycles. But when it loads them, it does. I've also noticed the phone slow down noticeably and even crash when there's tons of apps left in the memory. For some reason it just doesn't handle cleaning up the unused ones very well. But there are some apps that simply don't need to be loaded every time common events occur on the phone, such as changing connectivity from wifi to the cellular network. Consider this. You leave those (useless) background programs to load when the phone changes connectivity. Then you start your browser, which uses a considerable amount of ram. To make room for the browser, the operating system SHUTS THESE BACKGROUND PROGRAMS DOWN. Stay with me here. Later on, when your phone inevitably changes connectivity again, guess what those little background programs do? They start up again. And that consumes CPU cycles and battery. And they're used for nothing, which means all they amounted to is wasted CPU cycles and battery. In my opinion, it is sloppy programming by the app developers to require their apps to start every time an event like that happens. It consumes resources that are precious on a mobile system such as a cell phone. But it is very useful to leave commonly used apps such as your messaging service or browser in the memory. In fact, the messaging app was the only app I left to start on most of the events on the phone for that exact reason. It's just things like ROM manager and Titanium Backup starting themselves up just to hang out that is a waste.

Your right that's how it works but can't do any thing about it ecsept what was posted above
so strange i left my phone on all night just to see and i only lost 2 percent??

ok why does this do it in gingerbread 2.3 but it didn't do it in froyo 2.2.2?

Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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Wait where did u get the update from. I goto update and it says its not avaia
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I got the LG Updater tool from the LG website. As far as I know the update was for Rogers Customers. Updated from Froyo -> Gingerbread. But there are problems with the GB Baseband with ghost calls. The update here was released Feb 1, 2012. I'm just hoping they don;t say "We gave you the Gingerbread update so no Icecream Sandwich until 2013"

yeah figures att and lg couldn't do us all a favor