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Hi, I rooted my phone to install the hebrew fonts and it works great.
The phone is factory unlocked, I rooted it as I said and set up recovery. I am pretty sure I saw something about super user while doing that but not sure.
So when I try to install the n1 torch or other mods via the market after installing them I just get a black screen when running them saying it is accesing SU and then it crashes.
Do I need to do anything else or is it possible that there are different ways/versions of rooting the phone?
If I do need to something to update the SU will it delete all my current settings and apps? When I rooted the phone I lost all my installations and settings.
Also, can I safely install any OS updates now that the phone is rooted?
Thanks!
You need to to enable root access to use apps link N1 torch... aka. super user or su... to do this, either flash a cyanogen, enomther or madcao ROM or flash modaco's superboot boot image...
If you want to keep everything as is and just enable su, use the superboot boot image... you won't loose any setting or apps...
As long as you have the stock ROM, you can install all OTA updates even if the phone is rooted... else, if you installed a cooked ROM, you might have to wait for the cook to include that in his ROM (Of course, this is generally earlier than OTA updates)...
Thanks for the reply but I think I already did that while rooting the phone I double clicked on 'install-superboot-windows.bat' while in recovery mode.
Is that what you mean or am I missing something?
Also ,what do you mean by the stock ROM?
Thanks!
Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.
I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.
It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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It's the only reason I rooted this thing.
Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
Router thanks. Good informations.
I would like to root my SGT because I need CIFS access to my network share directories, in my Windows network. I found some prgs in the Market, but they need 'root rights'. So here I am. I will use this root app.
A question for you (you seem experienced) about the correct procedure to reinstall apps already installed after a root procedure:
1. Do an AppBrain Syncronize
2. Launch Root (Z4root)
3. Install the AppBrain app again and then connect to my AppBrain account to 'restore' apps?
Is it correct my idea?
that is correct, its not like the root we do when rooting and android phone like my evo, you can actuall run the z4root the run and install that program
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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...and Droid Wall, to prevent applications from accessing the web "unnecessarily"
that was easy and painless. nice, full root
I've found that I loose root occasionally, any idea why?
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Seems to work.
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
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Well, for starters I'd like to get rid of the very annoying vodafone booting / shutting down images.
If I could also remove some pre-installed apps, that'd be nice too ^^
recovery
Does this root give a recovery image?
kevinniven said:
Does this root give a recovery image?
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No. As far as I'm aware we don't have a recovery image.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab
sts_fin said:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
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When you ran OCLF, what was the amount of RAM you selected, I think by default it shows somewhere around 846 odd..
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
I downgraded my Xperia M2 dual d2302 to 4.3 and rooted with towelroot and then flash 4.4.4 followed by flashtool force towelroot using super su. This would uninstall super su on my phone and install its own super su binaries and busybox content. The super su pro would however, remain installed. So, I would have to redownload the super su and as soon as i would open it, it would ask for binary update and then ask for reboot. I would just follow the prompt without question. As soon as it reboots,though the root would be there but sd card and system rewriteable will be gone and there is no way to make my system rewriteable without flashtool reflashing back to 4.3 and following the long procedure. I till now, would blame kitkat and sony for that. This continued for over 8 days till I realised that the real culprit was not sony or kitkat but super su binary update followed by reboot. This is highly anoying. What is the point of root if system or sd card writing is not allowed? For now, I am living with super su by canceling the binary update everytime I open it. I have OCD and I find it highly annoying. I tried searching for an option to cancel auto search for updates bur in vain. My phone works just fine without update. I need no updates and need a way to stop super su asking for update everytime. Please suggest me something.
I have now discovered that even if I cancel binary updates, supersu auto updates causing the same problem. So, now I have decided to live without Supersu as supersu is not needed for root. I have an unlimited root access for all my apps which have root permission now and to add icing to the cake, my bootloader is locked. If anyone else is searching for a way to make Sony Xperia M2 dual 4.4.4 system writebale without unlocking bootloader, just follow:
LOCKED BOOTLOADER
1. Downgrade to JB, Root your Phone using Towel Root in Jelly Bean
2. Update via OTA to KK 4.4.2 or KK 4.4.4 whatever you need (4.4.4 is recommended)
3. In this process, don't try to install or uninstall anything
4. Wait for booting finish
5. Install latest SuperSU from Play Store
6. Open Flashtool in PC
7. Connect your phone to PC
8. Now flashtool will describe your phone information, then click Root Tab in top, after that choose force root by TowelRoot
And after this, do not install supersu or any other root control app. Just let your phone be as such without updating binaries or anything and you will have root. You will have unrestricted root on Xperia M2 dual, Enjoy and remember not to install supersu, kingsu, cm superuser or any similar app.
I was thinking to help you, but then i was worried if something else goes wrong, then you will blame me, just like you blame super su.
Yeah I'm sure of that. Just a note for you: I already have root. Super Su is not needed for root. It only controls which app gets access to root. The only problem without super su is that there is less safety as any app can get root without restrictions. I just want super su to be polite and less invasive by learning to live with whatever it gets rather than forcing itself on us. If I don't want binary updaye, super su has no business updating on its own. I just want a way to stop super su from updating binaries and I don't think you can help unless you can patch the app which I doubt
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Yeah I'm sure of that. Just a note for you: I already have root. Super Su is not needed for root. It only controls which app gets access to root. The only problem without super su is that there is less safety as any app can get root without restrictions. I just want super su to be polite and less invasive by learning to live with whatever it gets rather than forcing itself on us. If I don't want binary updaye, super su has no business updating on its own. I just want a way to stop super su from updating binaries and I don't think you can help unless you can patch the app which I doubt
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I think you are misunderstand about the binary thing, supersu need to update the binary so it will work properly, its not like updating app on playstore, binary is the root system itself i believe.
Help me out on this one, afaik, root access need atleast 1 superuser app to allow and control the root access for any root app. Any root app will need to request for granted the root at least once ti get the root access.
So tell me, how do you manage to have rooted device without any root management app such [email protected]@cm supersu?
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BTW, tell us what do you need on your device that will make you feel better. (About the superuser @ root thing of course)
NeoLogY said:
I think you are misunderstand about the binary thing, supersu need to update the binary so it will work properly, its not like updating app on playstore, binary is the root system itself i believe.
Help me out on this one, afaik, root access need atleast 1 superuser app to allow and control the root access for any root app. Any root app will need to request for granted the root at least once ti get the root access.
So tell me, how do you manage to have rooted device without any root management app such [email protected]@cm supersu?
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No, I am already having root . I have integrated most of the updates to my system app to my sys/app folder through lucky patcher and have installed the modded play store . I can even edit and delete system files in "ES explorer" file manager and stop items from startup using "all-in-one-toolbox" boot manager. I have an older version of su binaries which was installed automatically into my phone by "flashtool by androxide" using the force root mode using towel root :good: . But the supersu app was not installed and if the app existed before rooting, flashtool would uninstall it and also replace the new su binaries with an older version ! So, I already have full root access without the supersu app.
As far as i know, supersu is not needed for root. It is only a gatekeeper app which restricts the unlimited access of root to any app by making the apps that need root to ask for permission first. Without supersu installed, root apps get root access without asking permission provided binaries (any version) are already present. Also, for normal people who don't know or can't install binaries directly, they rely on apps like supersu, CM etc for installing the binaries. But once the binaries are installed, the supersu app is no longer needed for root (except in cases of OTA updates or updation of binary to a newer version) but instead works as a security guard for root.
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What I want is a way to make supersu submissive and to make do with whatever binaries are already present. If it is not broken, then there is not need to fix/update it. But supersu is extremely adamant. Even when I cancel the update, it gets the binary updated by itself when it gets an internet connection. And after reboot, my system rewriteable access would be gone! And how do I know for sure that Supersu updated binaries without my consent? That is because when I open supersu, it no longer asks for binary updates implying that it updated it on its own. I want supersu to understand that it is my phone and I will install only those things that i deem fit to be installed. Auto update services are something which i don't like.
What I want is a way to make supersu submissive to my command and to make do with whatever binaries are already present. If it is not broken, then there is not need to fix/update it. But supersu is extremely adamant. Even when I cancel the update, it gets the binary updated by itself when it gets an internet connection. And after reboot, my system rewriteable access would be gone! And how do I know for sure that Supersu updated binaries without my consent? That is because when I open supersu, it no longer asks for binary updates implying that it updated it on its own. I want supersu to understand that it is my phone and I will install only those things that i deem fit to be installed. Auto update services are something which i don't like and must not be done
Actually, you do have a good point here, as by mean we want root for full control of our property. And i just realize about the binary being updated thru network without our consent. I am hoping if you could get a logcat of the device when this happened next time. Including modem log, system, main, event, audit log, if possible. Im not sure if i can help you on this one, but i really want to look deeper into this one. Hope you can help me, using SysLog app. Can you do that, please?
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Actually, you do have a good point here, as by mean we want root for full control of our property. And i just realize about the binary being updated thru network without our consent. I am hoping if you could get a logcat of the device when this happened next time. Including modem log, system, main, event, audit log, if possible. Im not sure if i can help you on this one, but i really want to look deeper into this one. Hope you can help me, using SysLog app. Can you do that, please?
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At present I am using my phone without supersu as I will have to spend a lot of time downgrading to 4.3 and then rooting followed by painfully slow 4 OTAs in succession (there is no single direct OTA from 4.3 to 4.4.4 on Xperia M2 dual, unfortunately :crying: ) followed by installation of all my apps. I too wish there was a fix for supersu but the time I'll have to spend on that will be enormous and also considering that in this september my phone will mostly get lollipop 5.1, the 4.4.4 woes will soon be history.
Also, I want to mention that I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet. If I unlock my bootloader, all these problems with supersu will vanish. The actual difficulty I am facing is because there is no single post on the internet that says how to get system to be rewriteable without unlocking bootloader in Xperia M2 devices. Every post I have read of only has people with unlocked bootloader saying what to do and people with locked bootloader complaining that they aren't able to make their system rewriteable. I am probably one of those rare people who managed to get complete root with locked bootloader and hence facing the issue of lack of peer help.
Anyways, I really appreciate your interest shown in helping me. If I ever have to update my binaries in the future I will definitely take a log of it and pm it to you in case similar situation arises.
Cheers.
Same thanks to you. Actually, i think it is better to put the log here, as more hands and mind will be able to reach it, meaning higher percentage on discovering any hidden in the log. You are right about the lock bootloader, even until now i still unable to manage to truely understand about bootloader, as i didn't have any device with it to get inhand with the system. As always, i do appreciate any kinda knowledge exchange. Thanks in any way.
That's exactly why your system is read only and you can't move apps/data to sd ect without supersu installed and the binaries updated and Sony ric killed you don't have full root r/w access to system. The way you have rooted your device is the same way I did mine it's the easiest way there is if you can't get it right doing that way then maybe you should put your Phone back to stock. Flash jb, root with towelroot apk(at this point do not update anything), now update over the air to 4.4.2 then again to 4.4.4(again update nothing but phone)root will stick after each update. Download supersu connect your phone to flashtool and click on the force root tab(kills Sony ric installs supersu binaries and busybox) making system r/w
Search on here for the m2 forum if you still have problems
D2303,18.3.1.C.1.15 kk, deodexed, debloated, rooted, philz touch recovery, bravia engine 2+x-reality+z3 super vivid, viper audio, xposed mods.
Same old problem: many useful apps need root, Barclays needs UNROOT ... and barclays becomes smarter and smarter every time, not allowing any room for tweaks.
Any hope to have SuperSU cloaked from Barclays Mobile, or somehow to allow apps that need unrooted phones to run in rooted environment?
Thanks.
derei said:
Same old problem: many useful apps need root, Barclays needs UNROOT ... and barclays becomes smarter and smarter every time, not allowing any room for tweaks.
Any hope to have SuperSU cloaked from Barclays Mobile, or somehow to allow apps that need unrooted phones to run in rooted environment?
Thanks.
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For apps like that, just do a temporary unroot.
aufarxda said:
For apps like that, just do a temporary unroot.
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Thank you for the advice, but imagine you want to use banking app, you unroot, use the app ... then you must wait until you go back home (assuming you were somewhere away from your computer)... just to do again a tedious rooting operation that will be again canceled again in a matter of days... see my point? Is a lot of hassle.
Was hoping there are enough users of rooted phones who also want to benefit of mobile banking features (barclays and other similar apps that don't accept root)...
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Thank you for the advice, but imagine you want to use banking app, you unroot, use the app ... then you must wait until you go back home (assuming you were somewhere away from your computer)... just to do again a tedious rooting operation that will be again canceled again in a matter of days... see my point? Is a lot of hassle.
Was hoping there are enough users of rooted phones who also want to benefit of mobile banking features (barclays and other similar apps that don't accept root)...
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If it's Android pay , then full unroot and make your device stock again.
If it's not android pay(other banking app), then just full unroot.
It should work(if I'm right).
Thanks to you too @aufarxda ... but that wasn't the point. The question was about a way to circumvent rooting for some apps. To have the phone rooted for obvious advantages (kernel tuning, greenify, etc), but at the same time to be able to use the banking app (barclays). I tried cloaking, but seems to not work. I tried to disable SuperSU, nothing works. Only full unroot works. But guess what: after that my phone won't be rooted anymore. So, see the paradox here?
banking app, not baking app, f**ks sake
Hello there. I have been using stock android 7.1.1 for a while and decided to try using roms again (Pure Nexus). One of the apps that i need is "Vipps" its a Norwegian banking app used to transfer money to friends and stuff, but its notorious for finding root. I used to use xposed and root cloak on android 6, but i know well it dosent work with 7. Magisk dosent hide it, suhide dosent hide it.
After installing Vipps it rejects opening promting me with "Vipps does not support rooted devices". Only thing is its running a ROM that comes with no root.
- Cheers, Kristiansja
edit: root checker doesn't find annything either
kristiansja said:
banking app, not baking app, f**ks sake
Hello there. I have been using stock android 7.1.1 for a while and decided to try using roms again (Pure Nexus). One of the apps that i need is "Vipps" its a Norwegian banking app used to transfer money to friends and stuff, but its notorious for finding root. I used to use xposed and root cloak on android 6, but i know well it dosent work with 7. Magisk dosent hide it, suhide dosent hide it.
After installing Vipps it rejects opening promting me with "Vipps does not support rooted devices". Only thing is its running a ROM that comes with no root.
- Cheers, Kristiansja
edit: root checker doesn't find annything either
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Go into the root settings and remove root. Mind you this cause some of the features of the rom to stop working. Apps like that are not only looking for root but also for unlocked bootloaders. So if those apps are important to you then might want to stick to a fully stock set up and relock your bootloader.
zelendel said:
Go into the root settings and remove root. Mind you this cause some of the features of the rom to stop working. Apps like that are not only looking for root but also for unlocked bootloaders. So if those apps are important to you then might want to stick to a fully stock set up and relock your bootloader.
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Pure Nexus comes without root
kristiansja said:
Pure Nexus comes without root
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Go into developer option and turn off USB debugging. After that, reboot the phone and see if Vipps is working. If that doesn't work, I have one more suggestion.
It's probably checking ro.build.tags and/or ro.build.type. These are set to test-keys and userdebug on PN (if I remember correctly) and some apps need them to be set to release-keys and user. It could also be looking for other prop values and possibly also busybox (also included in PN, I believe).
Or BusyBox...
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