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ATTENTION! There is an increasing trend of people posting "upcoming" themes. Please do not post upcoming themes or themes that are not done. It is polluting the thread. Only post themes that are COMPLETE.
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i agree and disagree with you and i will list my reasons for each
i agree because it gets peoples hopes up, it gives a larger then life feel to a theme, it leads to "flame wars" between people.
also though, from the themers perspective, it gives an insight at whether or not they should pursue their idea to fruition, or just drop for something else, it does promote the community helping to design it, what people like and dislike, what they would like to see before the themer makes the images and realizes that something else would have been better.
really in the end, it can go either way, but when deciding to make an "upcoming theme" thread, i think the themer should be willing to at least give out a beta version as a temporary hold off or have the theme fairly close to being in the release stages.
like personally, i jump around on projects very often, so if i made a concept thread, i could not touch the theme itself for a week, so i would hold off on a thread until i was ready to release it, but i know people like AGx-07_162 (i mention you a. i really like your work and b. you are a recent example) are usually good about releasing their work soon after the thread is made.
just my thoughts on the subject. i tried to give an unbiased view of both sides of it.
david1171 said:
i agree and disagree with you and i will list my reasons for each
i agree because it gets peoples hopes up, it gives a larger then life feel to a theme, it leads to "flame wars" between people.
also though, from the themers perspective, it gives an insight at whether or not they should pursue their idea to fruition, or just drop for something else, it does promote the community helping to design it, what people like and dislike, what they would like to see before the themer makes the images and realizes that something else would have been better.
really in the end, it can go either way, but when deciding to make an "upcoming theme" thread, i think the themer should be willing to at least give out a beta version as a temporary hold off or have the theme fairly close to being in the release stages.
like personally, i jump around on projects very often, so if i made a concept thread, i could not touch the theme itself for a week, so i would hold off on a thread until i was ready to release it, but i know people like AGx-07_162 (i mention you a. i really like your work and b. you are a recent example) are usually good about releasing their work soon after the thread is made.
just my thoughts on the subject. i tried to give an unbiased view of both sides of it.
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well said .
david1171 said:
i agree and disagree with you and i will list my reasons for each
i agree because it gets peoples hopes up, it gives a larger then life feel to a theme, it leads to "flame wars" between people.
also though, from the themers perspective, it gives an insight at whether or not they should pursue their idea to fruition, or just drop for something else, it does promote the community helping to design it, what people like and dislike, what they would like to see before the themer makes the images and realizes that something else would have been better.
really in the end, it can go either way, but when deciding to make an "upcoming theme" thread, i think the themer should be willing to at least give out a beta version as a temporary hold off or have the theme fairly close to being in the release stages.
like personally, i jump around on projects very often, so if i made a concept thread, i could not touch the theme itself for a week, so i would hold off on a thread until i was ready to release it, but i know people like AGx-07_162 (i mention you a. i really like your work and b. you are a recent example) are usually good about releasing their work soon after the thread is made.
just my thoughts on the subject. i tried to give an unbiased view of both sides of it.
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I agree....
As long as the title of the thread states [upcoming theme], what difference does it make? A couple of sneak peek pics of a soon to be released theme, or even a concept that fell out of someones head isn't a bad idea. It gives the user something to look forward to. AND, if the original themer doesn't get around to finishing something, perhaps someone else could pick up where they left off and get the theme running.
No one is forcing you to read the thread. If it says [upcoming theme] in the title, skip it. While your forum name may be cost to be the boss, you aren't. When you start paying the bills to keep this forum open and paying for the bandwidth to support the number of users it carries, then, and only then, can you think you can make rules. Not a week after joining and making 39 posts.
Cost2betheBoss said:
ATTENTION! There is an increasing trend of people posting "upcoming" themes. Please do not post upcoming themes or themes that are not done. It is polluting the thread. Only post themes that are COMPLETE.
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I'll agree with you to a point. I hate the "upcoming theme" idea for the same reason I hate when producers release movie commercials 3-6 months in advance. Its not done for feedback, its done for publicity. This is not general as I cannot speak for the themers, its just the way I see it.
However the above poster makes very good points. It can be good for feedback if that's what the themer is after and not just to stir a buzz.
I guess it can be good for feedback to see what people like. So that is one plus
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I guess it can be good for feedback to see what people like. So that is one plus
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Precisely. Taste is an individual thing. I am glad that there are previews. Once I see what is cooking I have a choice of not visiting this page again or follow it till it is done. Plus, you need creativity on this forum and creativity needs a constant window.
Besides, I can make a no-no thread about ppl making half page signature. takes a while to scroll, not everyone enjoys your in-ur-face sense of humor and it makes threads twice in page count. But I won't.
I think the best way to avoid all these issues is... Any Dev. that is working on an upcoming theme and would like to share it with the community should take these steps, first contact a Mod before posting anything and let that Mod know that you have an upcoming theme and you would like to post screen-shots with a description of your theme and most importantly if the Mod could be so gracious and lock the thread (temporarily until theme is ready to install) immediately after you post, that way the thread doesn't get cluttered with nonsense, everyone has a glimpse as to what is coming soon and finally if anyone has any feedback or suggestions then we can PM the Dev. here or anywhere the Dev. pleases.
P.S. Obviously if your theme is ready to install and doesn't need a preview then there is no need for these steps...post away.
Cost2betheBoss said:
ATTENTION! There is an increasing trend of people posting "upcoming" themes. Please do not post upcoming themes or themes that are not done. It is polluting the thread. Only post themes that are COMPLETE.
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Whwn you're a mod then you can decide whats a "no-no"
Large stupid signatures should be a "no-no" too
as long as the thread say upcoming and has preview, thats good.. otherwise Mods will do something about it.
bittermormon said:
Whwn you're a mod then you can decide whats a "no-no"
Large stupid signatures should be a "no-no" too
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dude that was unnecessary..
schtuka said:
Precisely. Taste is an individual thing. I am glad that there are previews. Once I see what is cooking I have a choice of not visiting this page again or follow it till it is done. Plus, you need creativity on this forum and creativity needs a constant window.
Besides, I can make a no-no thread about ppl making half page signature. takes a while to scroll, not everyone enjoys your in-ur-face sense of humor and it makes threads twice in page count. But I won't.
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And I can make a thread about "smart ass people" making smart ass comments. Did I offend you in anyway?, no I agreed with you. So grow up
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When you're a mod then you can decide whats a "no-no"
Large stupid signatures should be a "no-no" too
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Your account should be a "no-no".
bittermormon said:
Whwn you're a mod then you can decide whats a "no-no"
Large stupid signatures should be a "no-no" too
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I thought you liked blowup dolls man bittermormon...
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I thought you liked blowup dolls man bittermormon...
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haha wow that made my day
reading this entire argument has made my day lol. ridiculous.
I don't really agree that preview threads should be outlawed. It get's people excited about themes, that's a good thing.
And I don't mean to jump on the bandwagon, but it is kind of an unwritten rule to not have a gargantuan sig pic on a forum, unless you are a noob of course. Usually a 200x120px banner is more than sufficient.
So wait a minute.. caused i just searched 11 pages to find how many times 'upcoming theme' came up. Twice? Twice??
Really?
You made a whole deal over this 'upcoming' theme stuff?
You kids (and i do mean, KIDS) on XDA must learn some manners,
etiquette and get a good swift boot to the ass.
Devs, and Theme makers, from one honest hard worker to another, please keep up the good work.
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I guess it can be good for feedback to see what people like. So that is one plus
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As in my post I really have never considered making a theme to share.
After being asked to share...I figured I should ask "what people wanted?"
Don't know if you don't ask.
As far as up and coming post cluttering the forum...idk
I do know that you also started a new post devoted solely to it.
take this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4751408&postcount=2868 for an example..
Hi Guys,
I've made my first theme and popped it on the android market, I made the decision to charge £0.99 for it as I believe it to be worth that and I know if I saw it then I would have no qualms with paying this at all, however since releasing it around 10 hours ago, ive only had 3 downloads all of which were cancelled so im trying to work out reasons why. One possible reason I can think is that they are using the Motorola Droid, where most these don't look particularly good because of the resolution, the second is that they just plain didn't like it! I do find this rather odd though as I have included 2 screenshots.
So if here's the androlib link (http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-nd-android-pandatheme-psimpleblack_5896-pExj.aspx) (screens dont do it much justice), I would appreciate any feedback. If anyone wants to download it for real then for today I will refund anyone from XDA developers who purchases it, just PM me your name after you have done so.
Thanks a lot for any help .
Looks pretty good to me, i take it the fuzziness is just in the screenshots? There's certainly A LOT worse on the market that have quite a few downloads, so I think you just have to give it time.
Yeah the fuzzyness is just the screens, thanks for the comment . Feel free to download if you want to take it for a spin and I'll refund your money making it free.
Anyone else got anything to add? getting a lot of views but little in the way of comments .
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Anyone else got anything to add? getting a lot of views but little in the way of comments .
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I would suggest making the notification bar black. The white bar does not look quite right. On the other hand, I only theme AOSP ROMS, so this may not be an option for you.
I want you to know that what follows is constructive criticism in the hopes that it will help you. If I offend I apologize, and give you full permission to tell me to piss off.
When I look at the theme, it looks nice, very clean, all the graphics work, but there is nothing that grabs my attention. It seems very "flat" and I personally would refund and get a theme that would draw me in to the screen. Having said that, I think it is really great work, that with a little bit of effort could really sell. I am sorry to say that I can not tell you what it needs, but I suggest making a few mock ups in gimp (or photoshop) and asking people what they think.
Additionally, the theme looks a lot like an iphone, which may be why I do not care for the look as much another may. The idiots on the market are always looking for iphone this and that, and thus I think it could really sell given time.
Thanks, comments noted, very helpful. The black notification bar isn't an option in this sort of theme but I'll definately be looking into ways of jazzing it up for a version 2.0 .
While I love themes like this, the only issue is that every other app installed will have a regular icon. Which unfortunatly takes away from your great work..
Yeah I recognise this, i was thinking of adding extra ones for the most popular apps (facebook, twidroid etc). Maybe this is something I'll look further in to.
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Yeah I recognise this, i was thinking of adding extra ones for the most popular apps (facebook, twidroid etc). Maybe this is something I'll look further in to.
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That is exactly what I did. There is no way to legally theme and distribute most market apps, so just make an addition icon pack and let people apply via bettercut.
By the way, I showed this to my wife, whom is a professional graphic designer, and asked her opinion. She suggested it is way too flat, and needs more contrast. I realize that you do not want to add color to accomplish this, as it defies the point of your theme, so she suggested to do away with the symmetry. Stagger some icons, give the homescreen a look that carries the eye of the viewer around it.
Thanks cloverdale, will definately take this into account in my future themes. Currently selling ok on the market place after making a few colour variations .
I want to create a theme, as no one here seems to have the same design sense as me; most are obsessed with trends from 2004 or something, and are fascinated by bright colors and the need for everything to be big and/or cluttered. as a minimalist, i'm basically exactly the opposite. i like clean, concise, small and unobtrusive.
Anyway, if a dalented dev and I could hook up, I could design a very nice looking exterior for Android so long as he could code it all into place. I'd be wanting to skin basically every skinnable object within Android; I want a full UI overhaul. I also want it to be the best looking thing released for the OS.
To give myself a little bit of credibility, here's a mock-up I was messing around with to provide an idea of what I'd be talking about.
http://img811.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=homel.png
is no one replying because it doesn't look good enough, or because no one is interested?
The design is very bland, more work on it would make it look pretty nice. I see you're aiming for a simple look yet, somewhat elegant.
looks very nice and clean but...
notification bar is half the size,dont know if it is possible to edit the size of it.
and it wouldnt be easy to acess the drop down menu.
Same goes to lockscreen,a lot to change...
Perhaps this are the reasons no dev is interested in this,but it is a nice concept...hope you can manage to get it done.
ZED_pt said:
looks very nice and clean but...
notification bar is half the size,dont know if it is possible to edit the size of it.
and it wouldnt be easy to acess the drop down menu.
Same goes to lockscreen,a lot to change...
Perhaps this are the reasons no dev is interested in this,but it is a nice concept...hope you can manage to get it done.
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You can change the status bar size from source: frameworks/base/core/res/res/values/dimens.xml and change the status bar dpi from 25 to "x"
that was just a mock-up. everything can/will be changed to meet the dimensions of the elements to the sizes needed for the phone. and yes, it'll looks a lot better after some more time is put into it. i posted just a barebones preview of what i hope to accomplish.
You came in here bashing many talented designers and then post that? Instead of 2004, you're going prior?
Good luck, and I hope your "new" idea (given that there are quite a few minimalist themes) turns out well.
how did i bash anyone? i mean sure my comment was a little snarky, but it wasn't meant to put anyone down.
i don't see how that's prior-2004 either way, though.
Instead of asking for "talented devs" to help you, it might work out better if you spend a little bit of time to get to know the roots of android theming, and hopefully get more going than a few minimalistic mockups. Read a few how-to guides to get things rolling and when you get to troublesome .9's and xml tweaks, that might be a better time to ask for help.
As much as all of us will be really excited to see what you come up with (I mean that seriously), I really think it would be better that you get some experience going on your own first. 'Employing' people to do the dirty work usually means the end result is nothing like what the concepts suggested (I think a lot of us remember a similar situation late last year).
Good luck, have fun. I'm looking forward to the results.
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I want to create a theme, as no one here seems to have the same design sense as me; most are obsessed with trends from 2004 or something, and are fascinated by bright colors and the need for everything to be big and/or cluttered.
http://img811.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=homel.png
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This is absolutely true, most of the themes would make my phone look like a cheap knockoff. However, I don't find yours the most appealing either. Minimalistic is good, very good, but add some more life to it (again, in a minimalistic and clean way)
It kinda reminds me of this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662721&highlight=xperia
turn said:
I want to create a theme, as no one here seems to have the same design sense as me; most are obsessed with trends from 2004 or something, and are fascinated by bright colors and the need for everything to be big and/or cluttered. as a minimalist, i'm basically exactly the opposite. i like clean, concise, small and unobtrusive.
Anyway, if a dalented dev and I could hook up, I could design a very nice looking exterior for Android so long as he could code it all into place. I'd be wanting to skin basically every skinnable object within Android; I want a full UI overhaul. I also want it to be the best looking thing released for the OS.
To give myself a little bit of credibility, here's a mock-up I was messing around with to provide an idea of what I'd be talking about.
http://img811.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=homel.png
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I do get where you're coming from and a lot of the themes posted aren't to my taste, but your design is weak. If you're going to make something so minimal that it's just a gradient fill and a font, the font needs to be something so special it can carry the whole design, and that really isn't... italics.. seriously..? It looks very dated. I think you've shown a lot of arrogance to come in here disrespecting the work put in by some very talented people, and then put forward your own amateurish design as an example of what they should be doing. You're not going to recruit anyone to help you that way.
Personally, I don't have the time or the motivation to work on full system themes without any kind of reward or pay. This is difficult, time consuming work, as you will soon find out if you make the effort to learn for yourself. I will however be leaning much more towards the minimal style in my future GDE themes, as it's my own personal preference.
Minimal is a very difficult look to pull off in an interface without looking bland, but there are some fine examples around here. Take a look at Elegance for a start. I respect that theme a lot.
Forget changing codes and such, just go to Sweeter Home and build it yourself. There are tons of themes there that look like your example.
http://www.sweeterhome.com/
Hey man, I just felt like I needed to give you some words of advice from an artistic standpoint.
I don't know your design capabilities, I don't claim this is your best, and I don't claim you are a world renown designer.
But every designer I do know deals with battling what other people say about their work.
We can choose to be offended, or we can choose to take it as a way of improving.
There are two words for this. One is greatly different from the other.
One is Criticism, and the other is constructive criticism.
Some of these posts I have seen are just pure criticism. (Perhaps this is why I see a whole page of posts gone but others I see here are constructively trying to criticize the work so that you may gain humility towards others works, and improve in your own.
This is a true barebone theme my friend, but I see potential in it. It doesn't matter what other's think, it matters what you think. If you ever need some help with this man, feel free to e-mail me. I am no dev, but I am a designer, and I would love to help you in the artistic aspects of this project, so that you can have something to be strongly proud of in the end of this. Let me know what's up. Shoot me a PM.
A loving word from one designer to another,
-VolcomDesigns
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Hey man, I just felt like I needed to give you some words of advice from an artistic standpoint.
I don't know your design capabilities, I don't claim this is your best, and I don't claim you are a world renown designer.
But every designer I do know deals with battling what other people say about their work.
We can choose to be offended, or we can choose to take it as a way of improving.
There are two words for this. One is greatly different from the other.
One is Criticism, and the other is constructive criticism.
Some of these posts I have seen are just pure criticism. (Perhaps this is why I see a whole page of posts gone but others I see here are constructively trying to criticize the work so that you may gain humility towards others works, and improve in your own.
This is a true barebone theme my friend, but I see potential in it. It doesn't matter what other's think, it matters what you think. If you ever need some help with this man, feel free to e-mail me. I am no dev, but I am a designer, and I would love to help you in the artistic aspects of this project, so that you can have something to be strongly proud of in the end of this. Let me know what's up. Shoot me a PM.
A loving word from one designer to another,
-VolcomDesigns
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*applause* well said!
Here are a few glass icons for anyone who wants them.
MY RULES!!!!!!!!!
1. Enjoy the icons!
2. refer to rule 1
Note: I cut and paste stuff, mild resizing and colouring. This is not difficult. I'm sure it can be done to a higher standard, with the right motivation.
All pngs were obtained from artists on DeviantART. Nothing is original.
http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/icons/dock/
(you may recognize a lot of these icons from elsewhere......)
IF you are not familiar with the style, around here it is refered to as ANASTASIA by DINIK
He was the first person to find all these great icons and slap them together with the glass effect(also found on DeviantART).
SAMPLE
thanks, downloading before they are removed...
vgunmanga said:
Here are a few glass icons for anyone who wants them.
MY RULES!!!!!!!!!
1. Enjoy the icons!
2. refer to rule 1
Note: I cut and paste stuff, mild resizing and colouring. This is not difficult. I'm sure it can be done to a higher standard, with the right motivation.
All pngs were obtained from artists on DeviantART. Nothing is original.
http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/icons/dock/
(you may recognize a lot of these icons from elsewhere......)
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You are AWESOME for posting this and starting this thread but I bet you that he-who-must-not-be-named will throw another hissy fit. I will give this a few days before he starts banging on mods' doors to close this thread if he has not done so already. If it does not get closed at all, I will post ALL the hundreds of icons that I made. I promise...and they are quite nice for a newbie PS user (not artist yet).
How did you do that so fast!
I got the original template about 6 weeks ago from the guy on DeviantArt who was using the exact same glass effect as a 150x150 avatar on a site I frequent, and had been doing so for a couple of years.
There was a slight difference in the shadowing and colour effects, but once that was removed, (done for me), it's exactly the same.
Initially, I asked him if I could use it for my avatar which he happily agreed to, but when I realised I know bugger all about PhotoShop (that's how come I had all those tutorial links from the other thread) I came clean and showed him DINIK's excellent collection.
He thought it was brilliant as well. Very well done indeed.......
And now, in 1 hour, you have just allowed me to upload a completely new icon set to my phone.
Thank you.
But I am still gonna call it Anastasia if that's ok with you...... and with DINIK as well - because that's one aspect of his work not in dispute.
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sorry but this is diniks style, you dont use the dinik frame!!!!!!
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He can't claim ownership of all things. The PSD did not come from DINIK.
OF course we all know that these look like Anastasia icons. Not the issue, I have used his inspiration only, none of the graphics are from Dinik's computer. This is absolutely ridiculous and childish.
He did say we could release our own PSD's.
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He can't claim ownership of all things. The PSD did not come from DINIK.
OF course we all know that these look like Anastasia icons. Not the issue, I have used his inspiration only, none of the graphics are from Dinik's computer. This is absolutely ridiculous and childish.
He did say we could release our own PSD's.
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Thanks for the psd . It's appreciated.
ChrisXP27 said:
sorry but this is diniks style, you dont use the dinik frame!!!!!!
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No one is disputing what style this is. I have said many times before, the OP or anyone who shares will not be known for these icons as anyone who sees them will say it is Dinik's when really it is not made by him. BUT the point of the matter is for those of us who began using the ANASTASIA theme have to make our own icons as there had been no addition for quite a while. That is how I began anyway, my template was actually from nniicckkss who was bullied by Dinik when nniicckkss shared the glassy psd template (so actually, I am using his template which he so graciously shared). And to be honest I only learned PS, CFC-GUI, ResHacker, WinCE, etc. when I got this phone last April. But I digresss...I am very much willing to share but because of rules blah blah I can't even post cab or zip files in threads. I actually have to individually email those who requested some of my own version of Anastasia icons but I stopped because that is really a pain to do every single time.
So I will share the icons below once this thread gets traction and not closed by mods due to reasons we already know.
Ahh. the great argument.
The altering of already altered trademarked logos.
OP, They look nice.
good day.
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He can't claim ownership of all things. The PSD did not come from DINIK.
OF course we all know that these look like Anastasia icons. Not the issue, I have used his inspiration only, none of the graphics are from Dinik's computer. This is absolutely ridiculous and childish.
He did say we could release our own PSD's.
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Watch out though, nniicckkss did the same thing early on and his thread was eventually closed by the mods because D won't stop blabbing and throwing hissy fits and threatened to take his work out of XDA. At that time, I have ZERO PS skills and of course that will be a problem for me then if I want uniformity in my phone. But since I now know how to edit manila/dll files, make my own icons, and pretty much google and download for free (or pay a few bucks) really awesome PS effects, I say, go ahead and leave XDA if he makes the same capricious threats and demands. His ego just became so big that he thinks he is the only one who can do quality work when in fact it is so freakin' easy.
EDIT: I have wasted too much time on this. I am going to shut up now and just focus on modding my own phone whether or not the mods will be shared or not.
The original PSD you posted in the first post, is created based off one of Dinik's Icons. It's relatively easy to do... erase the stuff in the middle, blend around it to "complete" the image. Unfortunately for you, vgunmanga, you didn't do it perfectly and you can see that in the image below. ON the left, Dinik's original template.. on the right.. yours.
Anyway, Dinik will be relasing his icon template officially in a new thread created by him. There, you can share icons made in "Anastacia" style, using the official template. I think everyone will be happy with this arrangement. You guys get to do your own icons, dinik gets to back off.
You know what, honestly, I'm a huge fan of DINIKs work, it's beautiful. Hate me if you want, but he doesn't deserve the **** some people have put him through. If you don't like his work, simply shut the F*CK up and don't download it OR use a ROM that has it included...
Is it that hard to follow rules? Honestly... He asked people not to distribute his work without permission, yet I see it happening daily...
Yeah, I have "manipulated" his work, but only to fulfill requests IN HIS OFFICIAL HD2 ICON THREAD, saving him time.
Am I re-distributing his work without his permission? No, I assisted someone in need.
Some people became belligerent, harassing his work because it came with a ROM.... my answer to their stupidity, FLASH A NEW ROM FFS.... If you don't want DINIKs work on your Device, don't flash a ROM with it included. You're only making yourself look dumber.
Remember, most Chefs make ROMs to THEIR personal liking for their own devices, not just to please you. If I Cooked up a ROM and it had DINIKs work {with permission} in it, and someone asked me to get rid of it, I'd immediately direct that user back to the Device ROM fora, and tell them to choose another ROM. Simple as that.
Does DINIK support my creating of this thread? Honestly, probably not... but thanks to these people who consistently blab on about how bad his work is, and how "they can make it too", he has announced that his work will now be for his ROM only... which means HD2 only.
I have no plans to update my Device to a non-hardware keyboard device, so thanks a*sholes... now I, and MANY MANY others, no-longer get to enjoy the work of DINIK.
Do I care if you can make the Anastasia Icons as good as DINIK can? No, I don't. The IDEA behind the set is what makes it beautiful and worthwhile, and DINIK took the time out of HIS day to make ALL of the icons... I don't see you doing this.. I just see you wasting my precious bandwidth and oxygen.
Feel free to comment, BUT if you're going to RANT against me this thread, why don't you just PM an Admin and request for your account to be banned and deleted... it'll save us all a bunch of eye-sores and the chance of our IQs being lowered...
[I felt this thread was necessary to bring people back to reality. Some people are too asinine to simply respect someones work, and time put into the work. I feel the day is coming where Chefs no longer get thanked, nor receive donations... and the day that happens my friends is the day that we all become part of Apples Auschwitz Posse of Fanbois.]
With you on this one mate, too many people are disprespectful to people who spend their own time making other peoples lives/devices better.
we all suffer because of their stupidity, the worst bit is, folk who take what is not theirs and use as they wish without permission will likely not give a damn about it and they will simply move on to copy someone elses work
I 2nd and 3rd that one mate.....
The guys/girls on here that devote their time to making some amazing programs to make our devices a whole lot better than we could possibly imagine, and you get arseholes gobbing off...
I truely respect everyone of the developers and can only say...
IF SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE A CERTAIN PROGRAM/SOFTWARE.......DONT BLOODY DOWNLOAD IT....SIMPLE....
Respect to DINIK and ALL the developers on this site...!!!!
Viva la XDA.....
i cosign this post
Thx Agent Zach and others...i know 90% users here are happy with me and what im doing...its just that this 5-10 people...became so loud and so annoying...that its no more fun to be here and post...it all began with one user who disliked me...and now it started to grow...i dont know what they thinking...they all using my work...and attack me...that one who doing it for them? maybe they should think again about it...to attack an author is not a good idea itself...but to attack an author that you like (use his works) is def an idea of an idiot.
they attacked me and my works...and suffered now...cause i not doing anymore cabs and do only rom exclusive updates...now they started attacking my rom and to rip files out of it (because after the first attack they get no more cabs)...the stupidity have no end...with all that they gonna loose all...i just quit posting here.
I understand your choice 100%.
This thread was intended to show support to your work, as you can already see by the responses. But it was also intended to bring these ignorant folks out of their shell. Maybe they'll learn that people won't kneel at their feet and fulfill their demands.
All it takes is one person to screw something up, and it all rolls downhill from there... it's the vicious circle of idiocracy.
I just hope that one day, something or someone can help change your mind. I understand your thoughts on the Exclusivity of the new Anastasia for your ROM, but it does, in-fact, suck for the rest of us.
I love your work, simple & through. Whatever decisions you make, my friend, I support.
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One of the rules these people should take notice of:
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
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Just a gentle reminder that this thread is on watch to ensure that all members post within the forum rules...http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=534
If you see a post that is a problem please use the Report Button function to flag it up so we can take the appropriate action.
Many thanks
WB
Thus I linked to the Rules.
Trust me, I won't hesitate to Report.
Some people may even Report my first post in this thread, as the people it's directed towards may become upset with themselves, and then ME for pointing out their mistakes.
I'm not familiar with dinik, his work, or any of you guys that know him but based on what I've read here in the off topic section in the last couple days...
I'm nebenezer, and I approve this message.
Totally agreed with this thread! I don't know way, almost everyone have some of Dinnik's work; and the only thing some people do is dispute! He have changed for us the hole layout from our device, what I'm thankful fore and for some reason or a other there are always people's who don't respect him!!
Ok I must be honest, in the beginning I missed something ore like to see more of his stuff on my device!! So I have simply contact him to asked his authorization to used his basic work to create my'n, and I'm not he only one who have did that!! From the first time I have contact him, till know I have a new friend!! I don't know if it is me ore what!! But in each case my parents have learn me to asked and not to steal!!
It is a golden rules in life in brings you a great part father!
As I mentioned earlier Dinnik, you have more friends here than enemies!
kurt-willems said:
As I mentioned earlier Dinnik, you have more friends here than enemies!
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Exactly.
But I admit, being a Photoshop Artist myself, the smallest bit of criticism to my work does lower my self esteem and respect toward "the receivers" of my work, no matter how many positive comments I get.
Maybe it's just a conflict within ones' self, and not necessarily a hatred for the critics...
Maybe my metaphoric "Ego" is much more vulnerable than I thought... maybe every artists Ego is..
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I'm not familiar with dinik, his work, or any of you guys that know him but based on what I've read here in the off topic section in the last couple days...
I'm nebenezer, and I approve this message.
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Nice Thread!!!
Am a big fan of your work dinik..
A big thumbs up mate Keep up the good work
Welcome to the world dinik..It is something that you have got to get used to it. I know this from my experience..
DINIK......
Pse do not stop posting because of a few narrow minded idiots..!!! Your stuff if loved by thousands of people on this amazing site.. Keep up the good work fella...