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I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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you're probably in the right forum, since rooting is development. but i do think you should check out the hero forum just in case there's stuff about the Sprint Hero
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
thanks for the response, I agree and posted a different post related only to the Sprint Hero on that forum (hopefully i did not abuse the forum rules, if I did, I understand if a Dev locks or deletes one).
jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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I may be wrong about this but to my knowledge, CDMA is a Network as well as Hardware and software type of thing. When Android was developed it was not capable of running on a CDMA network, one of many things added when Cupcake (firmware 1.5) was relased. CDMA is a network type so GSM only devices will not work on it and as far as I can tell devices built for CDMA are built specifically for that. There is some sort of hardware in there that allows the device to connect to the CDMA network that GSM only devices dont have. (I may be wrong about this though, I also believe it has to do with the radio).
Finally, I dont know what metro or cricket is and I also didn't know that the G1 was on those networks but if it is, I would assume that if those are CDMA networks its not the same G1 that was released on TMO and differers internally in that it can function on a CDMA network. If that is the case then its probably possible. If not then no.
Dont quote me on any of this. I'm not saying this from an experts point of view just from what I have concluded based on what I know about network types, devices and Android.
jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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CDMA is hardware AND network... not software.
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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if u had used astro to back up your apps and install them one bye one u would not have had a problem
Thank you superg05 that's a good idea.
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
harpreet1988 said:
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
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it is now. but originally it was only built for GSM... only T-Mobile's GSM most likely lol
this is really dumb but has some tried one click root yet? or will that mess up the recovery image leading to a possible brick. becase its running 1.5 not 1.6 right?
I one click rooted my friends g1 the other day and it works fairly well. Don't think you can use the gsm hero root method to root a cdma hero.
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
brianhaden said:
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
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it would probably be best to wait till more people get their hands on the sprint hero. the more people that get their hands on it, the faster way a rooting method that works will be found
Now that the whole Cyanogen deal happened I've been having a hard time finding the perfect donut release to follow. Any suggestions? Also what would you guys say to be the most stable Hero to be used day to day at this current time?
This is in the wrong section, but I use KingxKxKlick 1.9
Wrong section....
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
That said, CyanMod is still an excellent, stable, fast Donut build. If you're looking to try Hero, I have used about a dozen, and Kingklick's is easily the best, and since about 1.7 has been completely stable--no swap partition or cpu overclocking needed, and it's still so fast it's just disgusting.
Cyanogen is still actively developing his ROM. I would suggest following him on twitter.. @cyanogen
I would suggest that you just keep using Cyanogen. If you have too much trouble installing, just install this version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569825
In theory, once installed, you can just install Cyan's official updates when he releases them.
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5. These 3 ROM will need different and most likely customized user.conf settings. For Hero3G I found 196 swap w/100 swappiness and CC OFF works best. For Evil Hero you also need 196 swap partition.
kolyan said:
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5
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There are some that are good, but some are the best. It all depends on how it runs on your device and how you config the user.conf.
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
Cyan is my recommendation, and cyan is hinting at a very very soon update.
If you want to play with a new toy, try Motoblur, just be aware it lacks wifi.
it all depends on you. right now we have 3 working roms not including the pulse rom.
original android by cyanogen, [everything works]
hero by about 8 people (htcs own google ui), [bluetooth doesnt work, also im noticing flash doesnt either.]
blur [stable but slow, but good for social networks, no wifi]
just download the 3 different roms and test em out, dont just test one hero rom tho test em all and find what you like. but please do post in the q&a.
Wii60 said:
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
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Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
carnegie0107 said:
Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
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Oh Nice! You can use it with the normal dialer? Not through contacts?
i've been using enomther's donut rom. seems to be working very nicely. haven't used cyan's 'newest' rom because he kept saying 4.2 was around the corner and I kept waiting. Last week also said he had some updates for the .999 build and was going to add another 9, but never released it. Also enom's rom has a hero theme addon for his latest release. Whereas nabzilla is also waiting on cyan's 4.2 to release an updated theme for that.
carnegie0107 said:
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
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Dude why u being an ass u r not a moder to treat some1 with perm ban, I think they can deal with this with out.
But yea Cyans roms r good but its been running kinda slow for me so I started flashing
hero roms I tried a few and so far Mlign's worked the best for me. its something u have to find out for urself
Is there a catch all guide to what has been developed for the Galaxy S platform? I'm curious about the state of CM6 and something akin to Tkirton's apps2sd. Just want to read up on what's going on before my phone arrives this week.
Thanks.
read some of the top threads would be a good start, and the stickies
No custom roms yet, but SRE 1.0 hack is amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
CM6 is in the works for the Vibrant, nothing for the captivate yet, but I am sure it wont be to hard to port the vibrant version over.
Unhelpful's 1.2GHz overclocked, sweet, awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762171
The I9000 roms are pretty smooth compared to a AT&T crapped up roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763543
True stock one-click recovery, reverts EVERYTHING so you can hide your rooting and such from AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
designgears said:
No custom roms yet, but SRE 1.0 hack is amazing
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Not biased at all
(But seriously he did a kickass job)
Its just depressing to see Vibrant listed for future support for cyanogen roms, while the captivate is not. Hopefully the port is easy.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0-status-update
Last I heard they where making a universal cm6 for galaxy S. Perhaps working on the vibrant but end goal would make it universal. Oh well...perhaps i was wrong it wouldn't be first and def wouldn't be the last.
Same hardware so I don't see the problem with getting CM6 to work for us. Hell the Vibrant one might work straight across.
Side question, has anyone tried flashing a captivate with a vibrant kernel?
pretty good chance that CM6 should work as is, I'm running Vibrant6 at the moment with no issues other than the TMO stuff but that is nothing to worry about
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gunnyman said:
Is there a catch all guide to what has been developed for the Galaxy S platform? I'm curious about the state of CM6 and something akin to Tkirton's apps2sd. Just want to read up on what's going on before my phone arrives this week.
Thanks.
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Just out curiosity why didn't you stay with sprint to get the epic cause im switching to them?
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Side question, has anyone tried flashing a captivate with a vibrant kernel?
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I'm actually using the Vibrant source release to build my Captivate kernels. They're about the same but many things are missing from the Captivate sources. The compiled kernels are quite different though - the two version are built with different configurations and have different files in initramfs.
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mykenyc said:
Just out curiosity why didn't you stay with sprint to get the epic cause im switching to them?
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A couple of reasons
1) there isn't any 4 G coverage where I live and refuse to pay an extra 10 dollars for a service I'll never use. I'm in agreement with the folks behind explainthefee.com on that subject.
2) EVDO sucks here as well. 90% of the time I am on 1x instead of full EVDO.
Thanks for the answers so far by the way. Has Samsung finally gone along with the rest of the Open Handset Alliance and standardized on their file system layout or is it still as screwy as the one on the Moment?
gunnyman said:
A couple of reasons
1) there isn't any 4 G coverage where I live and refuse to pay an extra 10 dollars for a service I'll never use. I'm in agreement with the folks behind explainthefee.com on that subject.
2) EVDO sucks here as well. 90% of the time I am on 1x instead of full EVDO.
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Oh okay i completely understand you, i got screwed by ATT thats why i'm switching, i thought sprint and verizon share towers virtually. i guess everyone have different experience i hope you have good one with ATT, but i'm sure you will .
mykenyc said:
Oh okay i completely understand you, i got screwed by ATT thats why i'm switching, i thought sprint and verizon share towers virtually. i guess everyone have different experience i hope you have good one with ATT, but i'm sure you will .
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They don't share towers, BUT you can install a VZW PRL file which force a sprint phone to use VZW towers. That helped me a little.
The main reason I moved to AT&T was Sprint's decision to not include Froyo on any of their older Android phones. The Hero, which now runs CM6 and the Moment, which has the same CPU as the moto droid, will get no further enhancements. I hated that. I was ready to jump to T-Mob and the Vibrant but the Amazon deal for a penny on the Captivate got me here.
AT&T is great here. I'm not in a major metro area, and that seems to be where AT&T fares the worst.
Hi.
I was a WM phone user was flashing ROM's over there for a couple of years. Changed to Iphone because WM doesn't have Apps. Then I didn't like being chained down to 1 phone and miss my HTC Phones so I switched to Android So now I'm back in school learning! But it seems to be harder here with Android people aren't very easy about giving up "How" to stuff for MetroPCS for some reason?
Ok. Here are some questions I have. First I will tell you the phone is rooted and I'm on MetroPCS.
From what I've learned my MetroPCS information must be stored in the root because I just flashed aospCMod | AOSP 2.3.3 / CM7 (Gingerbread) to my phone and everything works MMS, Data. So is the information stored in Root?
I use to update Radio's all the time with WM. Do I need to update the Radio? Being on Metro PCS not sure if I have limits on what I can do or not.
Pretty much I figured out once the phone is rooted you can pretty much do anything you want I guess it's like Hard SPL for WM.
Anyone that has any tips or information towards MetroPCS would be great Not sure what all I can do.
Thanks,
Rick
I think the main reason that the how to stuff is difficult for you to find is because the vast majority of CDMA Hero users are on Sprint.
As far as radios are concerned, I've had my Hero since last April and have updated my radio once. I would assume that the Sprint radios would work for you, although I will not guarantee it. Flash them at your own peril.
Don't forget to keep a Sense nand handy on your sd card so that you can flash back and update your prl. An updated prl will solve a lot of text and data issues.
All of this should be taken with a grain of salt, as I'm not familiar with MetroPCS.
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user7618 said:
I think the main reason that the how to stuff is difficult for you to find is because the vast majority of CDMA Hero users are on Sprint.
As far as radios are concerned, I've had my Hero since last April and have updated my radio once. I would assume that the Sprint radios would work for you, although I will not guarantee it. Flash them at your own peril.
Don't forget to keep a Sense nand handy on your sd card so that you can flash back and update your prl. An updated prl will solve a lot of text and data issues.
All of this should be taken with a grain of salt, as I'm not familiar with MetroPCS.
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Thanks I just updated me PRL using this ROM without any problems. Latest one for Metro is 2004. Where can I find a Stock Sense nand?
Rickinfl said:
Thanks I just updated me PRL using this ROM without any problems. Latest one for Metro is 2004. Where can I find a Stock Sense nand?
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You should have made one when you rooted. Otherwise, any Sense rom will allow you to update it.
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There are so many different threads right now with repeat and/or conflicting information I am trying to sort some things out. From what I've either read or experimented with first hand, anything stock image based with any of the new radios will work, but aosp roms only work with the old 5.0 radio. The one exception to this that I don't understand is euphoria and the 98r radio work on Tmo. I am able to get and make calls while on lte. I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge to understand this so I'm hoping others can chime in and explain what's going on. I haven't tried the Tmo M build and I haven't updated my bootloader and I've only used banks gappps, if any of that matters at all.
terminus rom as well(released today). i can receive calls on lte with a new radio, and volte is working. yes, im on tmobile. btw, it is an aosp issue. but we have found whats missing, so soon itll work in all aosp roms as well.
Good to know, thansk for that info. So it's just a matter of the rom devs adding something to fix it? Why is it only Tmo users affected?
kingston73 said:
Good to know, thansk for that info. So it's just a matter of the rom devs adding something to fix it? Why is it only Tmo users affected?
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why only tmobile? i have no idea. but its been bugging me for two weeks now! and yea, all they have to do is add in whats missing, an easy fix