Hey
A friend of mine called me yesterday if I wanna buy his broken X1 (it felt down :/) and repair it, because I'm the man for such jobs
Do you think it's only the LCD-flex-cable or another repairable damage?
I think I can get that device for 2-3 days and then decide if I buy it...
Some ideas? Is there any chance to repair it?
Thanx, Carbon
yes, probably even a loose connector on flex cable
Hello,
I am quite certain it is an easy problem, i have seen many x1 phones with just a minor loose connector which causes the screen not to respond.
The best way to check it if it really is just the screen/flex cable is to turn it on, and check if the side lights flash in all colors.
If that works the phone should work normally. (even if the screen doesn't work)
After opening:
Re-insert all the cables in the screen flex cable and check if it works..
if that doesn't work then replace the flex cable.
If the screen works:
Then check out the screen if it has any crack's or black spots.
In that case you will have to replace the screen/touch screen also.
Generally, if there is no physical damage to the LCD itself and the phone buzzes on startup with all appropriate sounds - replace the flex. Flashing lights are attached to the flex and are positioned ABOVE the LCD on flex connection, therefore will not light up if the flex is damaged and neither will the upper keypad and other less obvious things.
The flex replacement is not minor, just be aware of that. Bad falls are also the reason for main PCB damage, in which case there will be nothing you can do.
Thank you so much
It was a "very short" call by this friend, but when i take the device, I want a precise report what happened...
atm I don't now if the sidelights show reaction, but I will report
I'm afraid of a real PCB damage...
In flex problem side lights will not light up, as i mentioned, they are positioned above the Lcd connection, so if the main flex connection ribbon is damaged, as is most often the case, all of the upper level functions will be gone, but you will get a startup with buzz and sounds present.
I got it
And LEDs are flashing and you can start it complete normally, but you see nothing... i'm going to open it and check the Flexcable
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I got it
And LEDs are flashing and you can start it complete normally, but you see nothing... i'm going to open it and check the Flexcable
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Best of luck.
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Hi i have had an x1 since august but within a month its been dropped and then it was unable to show the screen, i opened my device to try and fix my problem but messed with nothing whatsoever, when i put everything back together it wouldnt even turn on anymore! all it did was charge and when it was fully charged there was a red light. can anyone help me? please im desperate to fix my phone. My first paycheck was spent on this and i loved it despite the numerous flaws! also i havent charged it in over 2 - 3 months. Also when i opened it the tape that connect the rear and the front is kind of messed up, would that effect anything?
The tape that connects the front and the rear is the cable for the screen, so if it's messed up, you might need to get a replacement.
here is a pic, the red part where its circled is where i think the problem is, it looks ripped off, i did have a hard time opening and putting it back together the first time also.
Sounds like (Or rather, looks like) you're screwed, as far as I can tell, if it's really ripped. Otherwise attempt to clean the contact points with some cleaning alcohol and Q-Tips - something might have made it's way in when you disassembled the unit and blocked the electrical signals.
ill try it, but if that doesnt work, would i be able to replace the flex ribbon? would acteone work?
got this checked out by my friend, he told me its the flex ribbon cable, thanks for the help btw. Does anyone know the cheapest place to get a flex ribbon cable from?
Still would like confirmation if its my flex ribbon cable before i spend 40 bucks on a new one. thanks!
Hi, I am new to this forum. Sorry for posting here but I think I have similar or same problem with my xperia. Few days ago I drooped my xperia and then I could not turn it ON. I opened unit, the flex cable was detached.
After attaching the flex cable. I could turn the unit and it booted normal but no response on touching screen I even tried to align it but it did not respond. I turned off the unit. After trying turning it back ON only back light of the screen turned on (no sony logo, no xperia logo no winmo).
I tried to turn it on few times but same result. Even tried to soft reset and hard reset it but no difference only back light. Is it because of flex cable or because some thing else? I can`t even go in to 3 color screen. Please help. Sorry for my bad eng. Thanks.
Hey guys,
The USB port of my HD2 broke off and I was forced to replace the motherboard. When I assembled the HD2 again, I could immediately see that there was something wrong with my screen. The screen couldn't display full color (only bright red/orange/white/dark green/cyan accents). Also, the 'hang-up button isn't responding anymore after I replaced the motherboard (and flexcable).
What happened? Is there something wrong with the lcd display or did something go wrong when I (dis)assembled the phone? I took the motherboard and the flexcable from another HD2 that had a broken display.
Thanks in advance.
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Hey guys,
The USB port of my HD2 broke off and I was forced to replace the motherboard. When I assembled the HD2 again, I could immediately see that there was something wrong with my screen. The screen couldn't display full color (only bright red/orange/white/dark green/cyan accents). Also, the 'hang-up button isn't responding anymore after I replaced the motherboard (and flexcable).
What happened? Is there something wrong with the lcd display or did something go wrong when I (dis)assembled the phone? I took the motherboard and the flexcable from another HD2 that had a broken display.
Thanks in advance.
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So you completely voided your warranty through HTC and tried to fix the device yourself, then screwed it up. I'd still say send it to HTC and ask for a repair. I don't know if they'll do it or not, unless you used official parts. I know they do out-of-warranty repairs, but they'll charge you.....
Yep you screwed up the repair, those ribbon cables need a delicate touch & any handfisted moment ends up with what you have got now ...
Another careful strip & inspection of all ribbon connectors is needed ...
I bought it as a second-hand phone. The guy didn't give me a reseat and the HD2 was flashed a WP7 ROM.
For the button problem, how are you turning your phone on without that button? do you hear/feel it click when you press it? If not its just misaligned.the buttons are on a flex ribbon cable with two holes on each side. it fits on the plastic middle frame of the phone which has two small spikes coming out of it... it has to be perfectly placed for your buttons to actually click..
if the flex ribbon is broken however you can buy one off ebay for arround 10$ any will do, mine is not original works fine..
for the screen you could have messed up the lcd, did you separate from the glass-digitizer? if you did you probably screwed it up.. its not a easy thing to do.. also was not necessary for your repairs
the connection to the motherboard might not be all the in and clipped which might cause your problem... (being that two of the little pins provide voltage and ground while all the others provide data information if one of those pins is not in all the way a piece of data might not be displaying for example a color. Never seen that happen its theoretically possible thou)
well I have only opened my phone 3 times and dont claim to be a expert.. but this is my take on it... Good luck!
@pablow Thanks for the detailed response.
The HD2 is only turned on, after I place the battery. Otherwhise it won't start.
I hear a click on the (broken) 'off' button, everytime I press it. I also noticed that the inside of not all of the 'spikes' are empty. I can see a bit of the flexcable in the spike of the broken 'off' button. The spike of the (working) 'call' button is empty.
I think that the flexcable hasn't been connected securely to the motherboard. I'll try connecting everything again tonight.
not that it makes much difference but HTC wouldn't of fixed it through warranty because of usb damage anyway
I thought so, thanks for the heads-up anyways.
[Solved] Display is fixed
Update:
I disassembled the HD2 and reconnected everything (from coax to flexcable). Fortunately it worked! The display is how it should be.
I have another problem now. All of the buttons don't work now, exept for the dial button. Do these buttons break so fast? It's annoying as fuark, because I have to disassemble it another time in the future to fix the buttons.
I also couldn't re-attach the volume control tab when assembling the HD2.
Well, I fixed my old broken G1 with new screen, touchscreen panel, case and keyboard.
Now I have 2 issue:
1) Sometimes my touchscreen goes grazy!! If I use the touch test application I see that sometimes when I touch the screen in an area there is another virtual touch in another zone of the screen. I read that it can depend from the current source when I charge the phone.. but I'm going crazy!! I opened my phone 10 times (I thought there was a problem in the cable that link TouchPanel to LCDPanel, because when I lock the cable with the clip it tends anyway to go out from the connector, now I put some scotch tape to fix but the problem is here.. so I think is another problem).
2) My volume rocker doesn't work!!
I bought 2 new keyboard to fix this problem, but no one of that fixed the problem. I thought the first new keyboard had volume keys broken, so I bought another one, but the problem persists!!
Now the Touch problem rarely happens, but the volume rocker is completely unusable..
Someone have experience about G1 assembling/repairing ?
Thanks and sorry for bad english
if you have put in multiple keypads have the same issue i would assume that it is the connection going to the motherboard. just a guess there but its either that or you have had a bunch of faulty keyboards.
only other thing would be a software problem
does the keypad work in recovery (let you go up down throughout the list) ?
as for the touch screen, probably need a new digitizer or flex cable, both are cheap and it sounds like you have the knowhow to replace them.
Ok, but digitizer is new!! screen also is new, and I have bought a total of 4 flex cable because I see that they are fragile (I broke the first I bought).
I tried to change flex cable but the problem remain the same.
The only thing that can be damaged is the LCD cable that links to the flex cable: it has a small cut where the cable have a curve, but the cut don't reaches the contacts (the cable is transparent). I also use some glue and scotch tape to mantein lock the cable.
The digitizer cable is connected to the LCD cable, and then they go to the flex cable that connect them to the motherboard.
The strange thing is that seems a software issue, because if I turn off and than turn on the screen, the problem is fixed for some seconds, minutes and sometimes hours...
Another strange thing is the possibility to control the screen with some metal objects from the moment that the virtual touch problem appear (I can control the screen also without touch it, with hand and piece of metal)
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have you tried a factory reset if you think it may be a software issue? if that dosent work you can try install a whole new rom.
really it sounds like it isnt the hardware since you appear to know what youre doing. i have a had a few phones that had screen (digitizer) issues and a new rom flashed cured it just fine
since you dont mind putting a few dollars into it, and your familiar with the inside, you can always try to pick up a cheap motherboard or spare phone from ebay or what have you, then swap the motherboard and you could then hopefully find out if it is the hardware or software
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Another strange thing is the possibility to control the screen with some metal objects from the moment that the virtual touch problem appear (I can control the screen also without touch it, with hand and piece of metal)
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Huh sounds like you got a cheap digitizer than. Most good digitizers use heat to touch. If it's literally touch, then sounds like its a fake/meh digitizer. i hate the digitizers that aren't heat, but press. I see them all the time in those first samsuck touchscreen phones. And they usually die in a bit. I had a Samsung behold with a screwed up digitizer
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have you tried a factory reset if you think it may be a software issue? if that dosent work you can try install a whole new rom.
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Yes I flashed 3 or 4 roms after a wipe (I tried also super-wipe.zip), but the problem is here..
The digitizer works well some times, but sometimes get crazy (you can see in the video).
I don't that my new digitizer is fake, but I really don't know!
BTW I'm trying to repair my phone for fun (now I have desire z) and because I am fascinated by my old G1.
PS:
I see another strange issue--
If I touch the screen when the phone is on a table the screen digitizer is not very sensitive and can't take input from fingertips.
If I touch the screen when the phone is in my other hand, the screen digitizer is a lot more sensitive and it take input from fingertips.
My impression is that there is an electric field or something similar that disturbs the digitizer, and when I take the phone in my hand I discharge that field to ground. Also when I turn off the screen, seems that the electric field discharge so when I turn on the screen is ok, but after some seconds the field returns to disturbs the screen.
I really don't know, but is the impression that I have.. something that is not shielded.
Now I'll try to use my phone in airplain mode.
Thanks guys, I'm happy to see that this forum is still very active
Hello, guys!
Recently I bought an HTC One with cracked digitizer, but functional. It had a lot of scratches etc, but this is not important right now. I wanted to do a complete make-over so I bought replacement parts from the internet, I bought the front housing with the LCD screen and the back cover. I dissasembled the phone from the old housing (the one with the broken digitizer), and I assembled it back on the new housing. After all of that, I powered on the phone and it worked like a charm (the LCD and the touch-screen worked perfectly), but then I saw that the glass was a little out, I mean it was upper than the speakers cover, so I decided to take out the whole screen and to change the adhesive, because it was too loose and the screen wasn't staying properly. I succesfully did that, i put the screen back and everything was good, but when I wanted to start the phone, the screen remains black. And this is the problem I have. I mention that I worked very carefully with the screen, so I don't think the problem is at the screen. I disconnected and reconnected all the cables and still doesn't work. When I press the power button it vibrates and then it's making that sound like the phone is booting, but no image on the LCD. If I keep the power button pressed, the back and home buttons are blinking and then the same story as before, vibrates and then the sound. I really don't know what could be the problem.
I really need some help with this and I'm open to all of your suggestions. If you want more informations feel free to ask.
Thanks in anticipation!
To me it looks like you damaged one the flat flex cable.
When you took the screen out did it come like suddenly and maybe some tension was applied to the flat flex?
If I were you I would take it apart and verify the connection in the socket, maybe the socket was damaged or something and it doesn't make a good connection
I hope it works out for you
Thank you for your answer!
When I took out the screen, I took it out very carefully and there wasn't any tension applied to the flex cable, so I don't think this is the problem. I think it's more likely a problem with the socket on the motherboard, like you said, and it's not making a good contact. But what can I do about that?
Hi all,
Last weekend I tried to fix the GPS on my Xperia Z (C6603) - it couldn't lock any satellite and according to all tests it was a hardware problem. When I opened the back cover I saw that the GPS antenna wasn't securely attached anymore (thanks to the third party who replaced my screen last summer I guess). While I was at it, I also wanted to check the speaker since the volume is generally quite low. Doing so I had some difficulty getting the battery out but it didn't look like anything was damaged by it.
I fixed the GPS antenna and reassembled the phone, but now it won't boot anymore...
When I try to boot it the LED blinks red three times and then stops. Nothing more. It only seldomly responds to a cold reset (vol up + power for 10 sec.) but mostly not. When I connect it to the wall socket or laptop the LED burns red continuously.
When I opened the phone I still had about 70% battery left so that should be fine. Nevertheless I've had it on a charger overnight (LED continuously red) and tried the next morning without success.
What I have found is that the red LED indicates either a broken bootloader or a hardware fault. Since it occurred after I opened the phone I would assume the latter.
I have managed to do a repair through the PC Companion software but without result. I can still get the phone in fastboot (LED turns blue) connected to my laptop to flash. The screen doesn't turn on, though I'm not sure if it should? I'm also not sure if being able to connect in fastboot excludes hardware failure?
I haven't tried to root/flash because I first want to ask for some advice on a more systematic approach to fixing it. Also, tonight I will pick up a friend's Xperia Z with a broken screen for spare parts (same model, he got it one month later). So except for the screen I have working replacement parts. Besides the screen replacement (with original Sony parts) the phone was still in original state both in hard- and software.
I would really like to fix the phone since I liked it and I'm stuck to a SIM-only plan until December still. Third-party repair is out of the question because of costs; then I'd rather spend it on a new XZ5.
Any ideas on how I should approach this?
After some trial and error, I have managed to flash a stock ROM (.253) on it. No luck with that unfortunately. When I try to turn it on, there is a small vibration after a few seconds and that's it. Again the phone responds to a cold reset, but when I try to boot it after the LED blinks red three times again. That's all it does.
I would say the only thing to still try now is swapping the motherboard with the other phone, not? Or are there any other suggestions?
Well, I would assume that it is a hardware problem, especially taking in to the account that you touched components inside.
Even if we all know how phone work, and where are all components are, its not recommended to touch anything inside if you dont have steady hand and environment to make any repair(clean place, no humidity, clean hands).
One bad plugged connector can brick your phone. One time I even had problem on other phone with really small rust on one pin that I touched with finger(sweat from it+time+really crappy weather where I had to use it), so it show how actually fragile phones are.
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
Sadly I cant really help with it beside that, and I hope your phone gonna stand up after that somehow :/
Thanks for the reply Akinaro. Indeed the conditions are not ideal. At least I have one of those repair tool kits with the small screwdrivers, plastic pick and plastic levers for the connectors. I'll also set a reminder to take some latex/nitril gloves from the lab for next time
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
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No, the screen is totally dead. No sign of life whatsoever.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
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Possibly. I have used both the screwdriver and the plastic tools, but fiddling everything back in was tricky. The battery was disconnected though so it shouldn't have short-circuited. I will try with moving around the battery. But the more I think of it, the more I start thinking that I screwed up the motherboard by touching something there.
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
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I have tried the other battery last night as well. I didn't charge it first though, I left it in my phone to charge overnight and tried to boot it this morning, without result.
So I've attempted to swap the motherboards. Good and bad news...
The good news is that the spare phone works with every combination of motherboard and battery, so neither of those is the culprit. The bad news: none of the combinations work on my own phone, even with swapping all the other hardware components (camera's, gps, antenna etc.).
On the other hand, by now the LED doesn't turn red anymore. The phone just stays completely off. I didn't have time to try and charge it for some time though, so I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad sign.
I fear that the main multiconnector running under the battery might be damaged when I took out the battery and antenna module the first time. That is the only component that I cannot swap for it is so integrated - it would mean swapping the screen to the spare-parts-phone and using that one.
Any ideas still before I should consider it a write-off completely?