Hey all.
I had a quick question about RomManager that came with CM6. When I use the program it asks me to install "clockwork". I was wondering, since I have to use ebi1 roms, if this would be something that is compatible with my aging and crippled phone. Thanks!
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
Anything info wise, would be of great value.
hey man, i wouldnt recommend installing it, i did and now it wont even let me boot into recovery mode.
Be aware of the EBI0/1 compatibility issues. If this rom "manager" (whatever that means....) is distributing EBI0 ROMs, then you should probably FIRST UPGRADE TO AN EBI0 RADIO -- any 2.x radio is compatible with your phone and will make it compatible with EBI0 ROMs.
I can't upgrade to an ebi0 radio because of Rogers. I need to use ebi1 so I can still have data access.
lbcoder said:
Be aware of the EBI0/1 compatibility issues. If this rom "manager" (whatever that means....) is distributing EBI0 ROMs, then you should probably FIRST UPGRADE TO AN EBI0 RADIO -- any 2.x radio is compatible with your phone and will make it compatible with EBI0 ROMs.
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You don't know of Koush's ROM Manager?
I use clockwork recovery. If you are unable to reboot into recovery, YOU HAVE FLASHED THE WRONG RECOVERY. Do NOT blame the app because you are unaware of what you are doing! I personally use this recovery and it has given me no problems.
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
Please check that link for a list of recovery images.
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Hiya android forums
Im getting myself a ADP - just waiting for it to arrive and now it has made up a few questions in my mind - please dont bash the hell out of me if they have been asked before
First off, im not completly new to all this flashing, SPL etc, I would say i know the basic of flashing a WiMo...
So it kinda the same when you want to flash a "custom rom" to the G1, you need the first flash a custom SPL?
If thats true is it also true that the ADP have some sort of open SPL wich would allow any rom to be flashed, custom or not (Even WiMo)?
What are the downside of having a ADP rather than a T-mobile - besides the "small" problem with paid programs at market?
More questions prolly arises in the near future, but if anybody would be able answer thise Id be really glad
//M
So it kinda the same when you want to flash a "custom rom" to the G1, you need the first flash a custom SPL?
On Android there are two ways generally to flash a device: through the recovery (which checks against some Android crypto keys) and through the spl (either through htc-signed nbh or fastboot). Since you are getting an ADP, the device has the test-keys which mean you can flash whatever you want using the first method.
If thats true is it also true that the ADP have some sort of open SPL wich would allow any rom to be flashed, custom or not (Even WiMo)?
Yes, it is also referred to as the engineering bootloader (not technically the correct name, but close enough). It allows direct flashing of the entire flash from the spl using fastboot. You could not flash a winmo rom, since the fastboot protocol, afaik, does not allow changing the existing partitions in the onboard flash.
What are the downside of having a ADP rather than a T-mobile - besides the "small" problem with paid programs at market?
You can also modify the system software to show paid programs. That is no longer an issue. In fact if you flashed a T-Mo firmware, for all intents and purposes it would be identical to a G1. Only downside, I suppose, is you have to pay $400.
Go read the stickied posts in the dream developers forum. They will answer the questions you have.
The downside to using adp images vs tmobile images is you lose some of the tmobiles specific applications. Currently they are myfaves, amazon mp3 store, and the IM app.
The current JF ADP 1.5 image, as well as the other cupcake images, do allow "protected" apps, so the marketplace restrictions aren't an issue anymore with ADP images if you flash one of the custom builds.
jashsu said:
So it kinda the same when you want to flash a "custom rom" to the G1, you need the first flash a custom SPL?
On Android there are two ways generally to flash a device: through the recovery (which checks against some Android crypto keys) and through the spl (either through htc-signed nbh or fastboot). Since you are getting an ADP, the device has the test-keys which mean you can flash whatever you want using the first method.
If thats true is it also true that the ADP have some sort of open SPL wich would allow any rom to be flashed, custom or not (Even WiMo)?
Yes, it is also referred to as the engineering bootloader (not technically the correct name, but close enough). It allows direct flashing of the entire flash from the spl using fastboot. You could not flash a winmo rom, since the fastboot protocol, afaik, does not allow changing the existing partitions in the onboard flash.
What are the downside of having a ADP rather than a T-mobile - besides the "small" problem with paid programs at market?
You can also modify the system software to show paid programs. That is no longer an issue. In fact if you flashed a T-Mo firmware, for all intents and purposes it would be identical to a G1. Only downside, I suppose, is you have to pay $400.
Go read the stickied posts in the dream developers forum. They will answer the questions you have.
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Thanks for your answers
Ive now read a whole lot of the stickies in the development section - however i still have kinda few questions
So now that its an ADP and therefore have the engineering bootloader i dont need to flash a custom SPL - however both on the wiki and in the stickies the custom one are still recommended, is that only when youre on a "normal" g1 or what are the reason for me to flash a custom SPL rather than stick with the engineering?
As far as i recall from my WiMo days it wasnt too easy (Not to mention safe) to do a flash back to the orginal SPL once you have flashed a HardSPL - is that also the situation for "the common guy"?
How does flashing a custom SPL affect the warrenty?
//M
The "HardSPL" for G1 doesn't work the same as for winmo. In the winmo world. HardSPL prevents other programs from normally writing to the SPL. Rewriting SPL would have to be done with a backdoor. In G1, the capability to restrict writing the SPL hasn't been implemented yet. The only difference between HardSPL and the Engineering SPL is the former is capable of accepting DREAIMG.NBH from all regions, as it spoofs a supercid.
Once one's SPL can perform fastboot nand flashing (which Engineering SPL can do) then there isn't much else that needs to be done.
jashsu said:
The "HardSPL" for G1 doesn't work the same as for winmo. In the winmo world. HardSPL prevents other programs from normally writing to the SPL. Rewriting SPL would have to be done with a backdoor. In G1, the capability to restrict writing the SPL hasn't been implemented yet. The only difference between HardSPL and the Engineering SPL is the former is capable of accepting DREAIMG.NBH from all regions, as it spoofs a supercid.
Once one's SPL can perform fastboot nand flashing (which Engineering SPL can do) then there isn't much else that needs to be done.
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Ahh thx for clearing that out for me
//M
Ok so now ive recived my phone (Bought it from somebody else)
Right now i want to make sure its the official rom - what do i need to look for? The info are as following:
Baseband: 62.50s.20.17h_2.22.19.26i
Kernel: 2.6.27-00392-g831baf [email protected] #72
Build number: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.5 crb21147201 test-keys
//M
m.klinge said:
Ok so now ive recived my phone (Bought it from somebody else)
Right now i want to make sure its the official rom - what do i need to look for? The info are as following:
Baseband: 62.50s.20.17h_2.22.19.26i
Kernel: 2.6.27-00392-g831baf [email protected] #72
Build number: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.5 crb21147201 test-keys
//M
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That is the latest ADP1 firmware / baseband from HTC ( i just verified the version strings to the ones on my ADP1). You are good to go for now.
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html
One modification to do is to A2SD (apps to sd). Doing an A2SD mod puts installed applications on the sd card giving you more space and fewer writes to your adp1's precious internal flash chips.
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That is the latest ADP1 firmware / baseband from HTC ( i just verified the version strings to the ones on my ADP1). You are good to go for now.
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html
One modification to do is to A2SD (apps to sd). Doing an A2SD mod puts installed applications on the sd card giving you more space and fewer writes to your adp1's precious internal flash chips.
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Ahh that sounds great - thx for your reply
So what would i gain by using one of the custom roms? Anything that i cant do with this by simply install apps?
//M
m.klinge said:
Ahh that sounds great - thx for your reply
So what would i gain by using one of the custom roms? Anything that i cant do with this by simply install apps?
//M
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Currently I see very little to gain from the custom roms on the ADP1, I installed one of those custom roms to get closer to 1.5 before 1.5 was final and the custom rom seemed buggy and slower. The custom rom I used also defaulted to Chinese once installed that was tough to fix.
One Positive thing about custom roms though is that there is a custom ROM floating around that enables multi-touch. Android currently supports multi-touch but Google has disabled it in the source code (patent issues with Apple).
Since the ADP1 has the open boot loader, feel free to play around with custom images. The chances of bricking the ADP1 are much less ( as long as you are careful and flash things properly)
I am interested in installing one of the hero roms. They all seem to have advantages and disadvantages, but there are a couple of things not clear to me that hopefully someone can help me with.
1. No Hero ROM has working bluetooth? I have seen in some of the threads people claim they have working BT on a hero rom. True? Does no working mean none at all or just not OBEX? What about A2DP?
2. What about SPL? I am hesistent to install the Haykuro "Death" SPL, but from what I can see it is necessary to install a Hero ROM on the G1. True, or is HardSPL/EngineeringSPL ok?
That is basically all I need to know. Again, these things just do not seem to be clear.
Thanks for any answers you can provide.
raptoro07 said:
I am interested in installing one of the hero roms. They all seem to have advantages and disadvantages, but there are a couple of things not clear to me that hopefully someone can help me with.
1. No Hero ROM has working bluetooth? I have seen in some of the threads people claim they have working BT on a hero rom. True? Does no working mean none at all or just not OBEX? What about A2DP?
2. What about SPL? I am hesistent to install the Haykuro "Death" SPL, but from what I can see it is necessary to install a Hero ROM on the G1. True, or is HardSPL/EngineeringSPL ok?
That is basically all I need to know. Again, these things just do not seem to be clear.
Thanks for any answers you can provide.
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1) Nope don't think any have BT in any form. If you saw someone say they had it working, chances are they have Magic/Sapphire/MyTouch3G/Ion which has working BT in Hero ROMs.
2) There's only one Hero ROM (to my knowledge) which supports the original SPL which doesn't have the extra space in /system and /data that Danger SPL (Can't we just call it 1.33.2005?!) has.
I was really worried about flashing 1.33.2005 SPL, infact it took me over an hour due to reading like crazy. Just flash it, you'll be fine. Check you have the 26I radio, Settings > About > Baseband version should end in 26I. Put the spl on your sdcard as update.zip then wipe and flash using alt-s and reboot using home+back. Do not touch the trackball.
Then boot back in to recovery, go to the console and type 'ums_enable', copy the rom over, then 'ums_disable' then 'reboot recovery'. Now you can flash a Hero ROM.
thanks for your insight
hey guys, I don't need to remain ebi1 because I don't use data.
I was wondering if anyone has a link to a page describing how to get from ebi1 to ebi0.
I did a google and forum search but only found threads going from ebi0 to ebi1.
Also, if this even possible if I have flashed my spl to danger?
nm got it.
I'd be interested to hear if you see any changes in reception, whether you have more/fewer bars...
wow, I am now getting MORE bars, in my home I normally get 1-2 and rarely 3 bars.
Right now I have 4 bars.
I'd like to know as well, how to go from EBI1 back to EBI0. I'm on US AT&T network and don't care about Roger's mandatory update. The phone is rooted with the latest Cyanogen EBI1 mod, but I'm experience exact symptoms as desribed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632115&highlight=EBI1
Massive data drops I never seen before and "no service" in the morning.
follow :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
skip the parts you have already done (like maybe the spl part) when it says to flash the ebi1 radio 3.x, instead use the ebi0 one 2.x
and when it says to flash the R version of the recovery, flash the non R version
Remember this is highly dangerous and must be done in fastboot mode! DO NOT reboot untill BOTH the radio and recovery have been changed, rebooting while only one has WILL cause a BRICK.
I take no responsibility for what YOU do!
Should I reflash system image and/or Rom, or just radio and recovery?
You are going to do this
1)fastboot the radio
2)fastboot the recovery
3) flash in recovery what ever rom you want (obviously without the ebi1 kernel)
asb123 said:
You are going to do this
1)fastboot the radio
2)fastboot the recovery
3) flash in recovery what ever rom you want (obviously without the ebi1 kernel)
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It worked, Thanks!
Ebi1 --> ebi0
ok so i have a rogers Dream aka G1. It HAD the 3.xx.xx radio, the EBI1 radio. I wanted to be able to use more roms so i downgraded it to the EBI0 radio. But now I can't seem to access data plan services? Any ideas on this? do i need to have the EBI1 radio in order to access Rogers data services?
kyle_l88 said:
ok so i have a rogers Dream aka G1. It HAD the 3.xx.xx radio, the EBI1 radio. I wanted to be able to use more roms so i downgraded it to the EBI0 radio. But now I can't seem to access data plan services? Any ideas on this? do i need to have the EBI1 radio in order to access Rogers data services?
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No, robbers is criminally blocking your services for being smarter than them.
You need to find the "opt out" button where you can get your data service reactivated.
I was looking through the wiki on installing CyanogenMod and I noticed that you're supposed to flash a radio on your phone in the guide. Do I have to do this in ClockworkMod? I used regaw's hero rooter to root my hero, and it flashed Clockworkmod for me.
My baseband is currently 2.42.01.04.27, the one the guide mentioned is 2.42.02.10.29.
Does it matter if I flash a new radio to go along with this or can I just stick with the one I'm on now?
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I was looking through the wiki on installing CyanogenMod and I noticed that you're supposed to flash a radio on your phone in the guide. Do I have to do this in ClockworkMod? I used regaw's hero rooter to root my hero, and it flashed Clockworkmod for me.
My baseband is currently 2.42.01.04.27, the one the guide mentioned is 2.42.02.10.29.
Does it matter if I flash a new radio to go along with this or can I just stick with the one I'm on now?
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I don't actually know if you need to flash the radio, but if the wiki said so, you should. I've had that .29 radio since it came out, and the best info I can tell you is that the new radio gave me much better reception and therefore better battery life. Yes you can flash it in recovery, assuming you have the flashable zip, it shouldn't matter what recovery you have.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the newest CM7 and aospCMod do not support anything but the newest .29 radio. And as posted above, it will likely improve your signal, so upgrading would be beneficial anyway. Yes you should be able to flash it from any recovery.
Here's the post that contains the download for the newest .29 radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853868
I'm having a TON of issues with the current radio. I flashed the updated radio during the whole 911 patch fiasco and ever since the phone will just randomly not be able to send/receive text messages or phone calls. I've read that some of the newer radios (6.xx) and the older radios are compatible.
Current Specs:
Rom: CM 6.1.0 with patched kernel
Radio: 3.22.26.17
Model: HTC Dream 32B
You should update to the ezterry's newest radio and spl.
They also come with an extra 14MB RAM!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
seems cool, but I was hoping for something simpler... Ah well if it gives me back the use of my phone...
It will, trust me if you need a guide, on how to flash it, go to the g1 development forum, its either on the first or second page
Sent from my COS-DS using XDA App
maximo360 said:
It will, trust me if you need a guide, on how to flash it, go to the g1 development forum, its either on the first or second page
Sent from my COS-DS using XDA App
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
ldrifta said:
brick://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
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Absolutely under no circumstances *EVER* flash via recovery a 2.22.* radio when you have a 3.22.* radio it *WILL* brick your phone
on a similar note:
Absolutely under no circumstances *EVER* flash via recovery a 3.22.* radio when you have a 2.22.* radio it *WILL* brick your phone
And on that note another few reasons why we recommend using fastboot
If you have a 1.22.* radio and install Danger SPL or 1.33.0013/0013d SPLs via recovery you will also brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139 is safe for ALL dream users, always use that fastboot method for installing 1.33.0013d or ask ldrifta to pay for your replacement phone.. anyway those other instructions are for downgrading a t-mobile dream.. while 60% of the time it may work.. downgrading to out of region firmwares causes headaches when an NBH fails to apply the first time.. since you can't simply re-flash and move on.
(anyway the rooting guide for the e911 dreams already expects the users to install fastboot/adb so it ought to be easy to fastboot the radio+SPL.. the only real problem with my thread is some people feel overwhelmed with the full operation guide of the new phone the Radio/SPL transforms the phone into)