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I just tried to install the newest Haykuro SPL on my rooted G1, and now it stays at the T-Mobile screen. I can access the recovery utility, but when I press Home and Back to restart it just goes back the recovery menu..Any help?? Can I apply the offcial cupcake update?

First, please use the search feature of the forums and do plenty of research before attempting to mod your phone next time.
In recovery try wiping (alt+w) then reboot, If that doesn't work I'm out of ideas, search will probably return useful results as I've seen quite a few threads pertaining to issues with this SPL.

No my phone was already modded, it worked fine when I wrote over JF's 1.51. But when I tried to use this SPL it didn't work. I need to reflash over JF firmware for it to work. But I don't have a MicroSD Card Adapter, damn..
Can the G1 access via USB by putting it in BootLoader mode, or something??

I think(am no way certian tho) that you can access the sd via adb shell while in recovery mode, you'll need to do some looking into it tho. If I were you first thing tomarrow I'd pick up one of these even if you do manage to fix it by then. I use mine alot due to funking things up with modded themes and what not.

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Got it working, I reflashed it with JF's newest build. I wonder what I did wrong though when I tried flashing the latest Haykuro's SPL. I want to go to the newest Hero build but I am scared I might mess up my phone again.

Good to hear. I'd do alot more research before going any further. SPL's are where bricking turns from nearly impossible to easy as pie. Check out all the brick posts to see what NOT to do. Can be very helpful info.
ps. next time for pete's sake put something more useful than "help.." in the title of your thread.

First things first, check if you did get the spl to load. Turn off your phone and hold camera button and power. The screen that comes up should tell you what SPL you are using.

BigWorldJust said:
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Got it working, I reflashed it with JF's newest build. I wonder what I did wrong though when I tried flashing the latest Haykuro's SPL. I want to go to the newest Hero build but I am scared I might mess up my phone again.
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You didn't do anything 'wrong'. Flashing a new SPL repartitions your phones internal memory, destroying your ROM, thus requiring a ROM reflash after the SPL.
Honestly, what are you doing flashing a SPL when you do not understand what it does or how it works?

Excuse me Mr. Perfect. I didn't know that I had to reflash a ROM right on top of flashing the new SPL. Thus if what you are saying is true, I should have the new SPL than since I reinstalled the JF Rom?

BigWorldJust said:
Excuse me Mr. Perfect. I didn't know that I had to reflash a ROM right on top of flashing the new SPL. Thus if what you are saying is true, I should have the new SPL than since I reinstalled the JF Rom?
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Not trying to be a ****, but this is how people end up with bricks. Believe it or not, I'm actually trying to save you from doing that.
And yes, if you flashed the new SPL then JF's (or any ROM, really) than you still have the new SPL.

I know what you mean, I thought I had bricked it last night because of the SPL install. Alright I checked and indeed do have the new SPL. What ROM do you recommend using, that doesn't require Apps2SD as I cannot even use without a Class 6 MicroSD Card? JF's ROM is pretty bland, if you know what I mean.

wipe and re-flash the rom you want and please click the link in my sig

Thanks but what ROM do you recommend that doesn't require Apps2SD to run good and looks cool and customized? Does Cyanogen's require Apps2SD to run properly?

BigWorldJust said:
Thanks but what ROM do you recommend that doesn't require Apps2SD to run good and looks cool and customized? Does Cyanogen's require Apps2SD to run properly?
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yes a2sd works on 3.4.
but if you would like to know more about Cyanogen's rom... click the link to it!
also click the other link i have

Aight, one more question. Does it require Apps2SD to run properly though? Or can I install it and expect it to run good without Apps2SD ?

BigWorldJust said:
Aight, one more question. Does it require Apps2SD to run properly though? Or can I install it and expect it to run good without Apps2SD ?
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that was two questions btw...
1. NO!
2. YES!

LoL, sorry I meant two . Thanks for the help, I'll try The Dude's Cupcake 1.3RC1 first, and if I don't favor it I'll try Cyanogen's.

[SOLVED] once rooted always rooted?

First of all forgive me if this question as been asked a million times but to be honest I'm finding the Dream section a mess.
Now onto my question.... I've rooted my G1 and I'm currently running JF 1.51 with hero skin, now I'm I correct that I will always be rooted as long as I stick to custom roms?
The other thing is when I go into recovery mode I get a message at the top of the screen something like "Unable to find /system/command/recovery.cmd" am I correct that means I'm unable to proform backups? which is no big deal for me.
Finally whats the deal with this new spl, do I really need it to run a hero ported rom? I only ask because in all my years flashing windows phones the spl is something you should flash once and leave alone to avoid errors that can brick your phone.

Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE

alritewhadeva said:
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
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Thanks for the fast reply, as for the recovery thing like I said I would never back anything up and restore it anyway (I've always started afresh with every new rom)
Now going back to the spl thing.... Ive already updated my radio to the latest so when I do finally go for a hero rom and do flash my spl is the new spl a custom one which will allow me to reflash back down to a non-hero rom? or do I have to go back to the orginal hardspl first?

The new SPL was released by haykuro and it allows you to have about 30 more mb of space on your system partition. It still allows you to flash non-hero ROMs as well as hero ROMs. Sorry for the slow response >.>

Thanks alritewhadeva everything is clearer now.

[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks

1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.

Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?

alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.

No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^

Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?

He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-

Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!

Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.

This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.

As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.

Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake

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Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!

I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

want hero rom

running cyanogen 4.01, but i want to run one of the hero roms but i cannot for some unknown reason install the new spl. my question is does cyanogen have any hero roms or after numerous attempts how do i get the new spl.tried at least 3 different methods.

Do you have cyanogen's recovery image? If so, do not use the trackball to reboot the phone or even apply the spl, rename it to update.zip, then flash it with the keyboard commands, also do not go to the reocvery console to reboot, you must use home and back to reboot the phone or else the spl will not write. I have had this problem before and that is how i fixed it.

Cyan does not make any hero roms, what do you mean that you can not get the spl for it, do you also have the newest radio flashed, gotta give some more info

radio
i have 2.22.19.26I radio. if that is wrong then i just need to find the right one. and i will do that.

I believe that is the correct radio, so just follow david's solution then

Just curious about radios and SPLs

Hello all,
I am just a little curious about the radios and SPLs. I have a rooted MT3G that is a 32B. I have been told i should update these on my phone but i dont understand the reason for it. If you could help me out that would be great. I have been searching for a while and am still lost. Also if i should flash new ones, which are best for a 32B MT3G?
thanks

Just my experience
I've got a UK HTC Magic (32B, same as you) with the stock 0006 SPL and stock radio. I've flashed all sorts of roms, many of which require Danger/Death SPL on the G1 and I've never had any problems. Espresso roms, Eclair roms and (my personal favorite) Super D. All worked fine. Flashing the SPL is the only thing that puts you in any real danger of properly bricking your phone, so if you haven't had any problems flashing the bigger roms out there, I wouldn't (well, I actually haven't) bother about it.
If it ain't broke...

Updating radio and SPL its not a must on MT3G, since they got a larger stock SPL than the G1, so its no really neccesary. I wouldnt recommend to update it, only if you are 100% sure of what you are doing, because it can brick your phone.

Well I know what im doing, I mess with this sort of thing all the time. From PSPs to CMOS on a PC, I'm quite comfortable doing this type of work. I was mainly just curious if it was necessary on the MT3G, or if anything could be gained from it. Thanks guys.

Watch the video tutorials about radios & spl if you're ready to update. It's easy, just have to be precise or you'll brick your device.
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SPL & Radio Resources: Click & Click
SPL & Radio videos - Click & Click & Click
You should set up ADB - Click (Here's a video guide if you don't like reading - Click)
Also, download & install DroidExplorer as well after setting up ADB - Click
Helpful YouTube channels: ItsAndroidsWorld, raw415, thegadgetpro, EmoGamer, droiddog
Helpful Sites & Reading: TheUnlockr, CyanogenMod Wiki, Sapphire Hacking Wiki, Sapphire/HTC Magic Resource Info
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And since you have a MT3G 32B then there's no need to update the radio, just the SPL. Wipe, flash SPL, reboot back to recovery, then flash rom. It's that easy.