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Have questions can anyone help?

I am running JF 1.51 with app2sd. I am really wanting to try the magic rom. I have the latest radio that was required to update to cupcake. I am nervous about updating the SPL because I accidently install the radio twice on my last G1 and it fried it. Is it worth the switch? If so how do I change from JF and then go to the Hero rom? I have found some stuff but nothing on switching SPL from JF to any other without bricking my phone.
Thanks in advance....

Sorry not magic rom HERO ROM.

Make sure your phone has the PVT board (it will tell you in your current SPL screen). If you do, I recommend this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3816278&postcount=3
I followed to a "T" without any problems.
Good luck and a little positive energy toward your fone never hurt You will need the newest SPL to load HERO due to the size of the ROM. I know some people have piece-mealed their on HERO builds making them smaller than the orig Haykuro one, but I think they all still require the newest SPL. Just remember, more than just a couple of people have bricked their fones flashing this SPL...
Aloha-

That just seems odd to me I am not sure... So I should have JF 1.51 on one card and the SPL on the other? Which goes in first. I have the JF boot loader now. How do you know what SPL you have? Can I update from one to the other without bricking?

Hold camera then power and the SPL screen will come up and tell u what version u have (if it's rainbow screen you are still on stock). There are many threads dealing with flashing the SPL. Check Haykuro's blog also. I don't want to give some information and someone have bad results. So I recommend reading all that u can before you try.
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3816278#post3816278
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
These are a good place to start. U might need dig around a little, and I recommend reading a lot. Don't try it if you're not comfortable.

Ok thanks I will do some more reading... I have stock then... When i rooted it it was the rainbow... Thanks again.

Ok Want to check to make sure...
This iis what I got on the Rainbow screen...
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
Radio-2.22.19.26i
So I should be able to follow that first tutorial you sent becuase I take it that this is a PVT board.

One last thing If I do update the SPL can I stay with JF builds if I decide too?

Anyone? I have been searching and I can not figure out some answers. Like if I do not want to update to hero now and stay with JF can I? Or if I do in the 2 card tutorial on updating SPL can I have hero already or since I am on JF 1.51 now do I have to stay with it then after done wipe then install hero rom?

Changing the SPL will not limit you to a specific ROM so you should be able to run Haykuro's 1.5, JF's 1.5 (including all variations) as well as HERO etc... Some ROM's larger size necessitate the use of the newer SPL because it's smaller (the SPL that is). Also need to remember that once you commit to the new SPL, you cannot downgrade the radio as per Haykuro. Be careful moving from the stock SPL to the newest one. I'm not sure if there could be any problems, you might search for something related to that subject. Also, what's really great about using non-stock SPL's is that they allow the use of fastboot to reflash the .img's created by the Recovery console. Which means once you have a good stable ROM on your fone, you back it up and play with your fone all u want (pretty much) knowing that u can go right back to the "good" build you backed using just 3 simple commands from fastboot. Good luck.
Aloha-

[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks

1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.

Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?

alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.

No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^

Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?

He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-

Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!

Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.

This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.

As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.

Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake

Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!

I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

Hero/Rosie Roms

I am interested in installing one of the hero roms. They all seem to have advantages and disadvantages, but there are a couple of things not clear to me that hopefully someone can help me with.
1. No Hero ROM has working bluetooth? I have seen in some of the threads people claim they have working BT on a hero rom. True? Does no working mean none at all or just not OBEX? What about A2DP?
2. What about SPL? I am hesistent to install the Haykuro "Death" SPL, but from what I can see it is necessary to install a Hero ROM on the G1. True, or is HardSPL/EngineeringSPL ok?
That is basically all I need to know. Again, these things just do not seem to be clear.
Thanks for any answers you can provide.

raptoro07 said:
I am interested in installing one of the hero roms. They all seem to have advantages and disadvantages, but there are a couple of things not clear to me that hopefully someone can help me with.
1. No Hero ROM has working bluetooth? I have seen in some of the threads people claim they have working BT on a hero rom. True? Does no working mean none at all or just not OBEX? What about A2DP?
2. What about SPL? I am hesistent to install the Haykuro "Death" SPL, but from what I can see it is necessary to install a Hero ROM on the G1. True, or is HardSPL/EngineeringSPL ok?
That is basically all I need to know. Again, these things just do not seem to be clear.
Thanks for any answers you can provide.
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1) Nope don't think any have BT in any form. If you saw someone say they had it working, chances are they have Magic/Sapphire/MyTouch3G/Ion which has working BT in Hero ROMs.
2) There's only one Hero ROM (to my knowledge) which supports the original SPL which doesn't have the extra space in /system and /data that Danger SPL (Can't we just call it 1.33.2005?!) has.
I was really worried about flashing 1.33.2005 SPL, infact it took me over an hour due to reading like crazy. Just flash it, you'll be fine. Check you have the 26I radio, Settings > About > Baseband version should end in 26I. Put the spl on your sdcard as update.zip then wipe and flash using alt-s and reboot using home+back. Do not touch the trackball.
Then boot back in to recovery, go to the console and type 'ums_enable', copy the rom over, then 'ums_disable' then 'reboot recovery'. Now you can flash a Hero ROM.

thanks for your insight

help laggy cyanogenmod flash

I just rooted my phone this afternoon but im new
and still confused about most things.
I rooted my phone by downgrading to 1.5 and
now im running 1.6 with cyanogenmod 4.2.1 but
it doesnt seem to be very fast, its quite slow and
laggy and im wondering why that is.
recovery 1.4 i think.
kernal 2.6.29.6cm42
drc83
dont know what other info might be important.
Some games that didnt lag before lag now like armoured strike online, it can barely start and force closes alot.
also what is a newer version that is built around
android 2.0, is quite fast,looks good and doesnt
need the danger spl.
Im on a unlocked g1 in the uk

I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.

SmoothMarx said:
I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.
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Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?

I booted into recovery mode i think holding the camara and power and iv discovered something im confused about. (nothing new there)
Hboot 1.33.2005 (drea11000)
Radio 2.22.19.26I
cant post the link.....
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1.33.2005 Danger SPL
VER: HBOOT-1.33.2005
ZIP: spl-signed.zip or spl-signed_1.33.2005.zip
MD5: 2112b7df6ed9d0a56897ac23b0399bb5
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?

eraldo said:
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?
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Yes, if it says 1.33.2005 (DREA10000) then you have the Danger SPL
Here's some info: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Bootloader

eraldo said:
Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?
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See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655097

[Q] ADP1 Questions

Found a great steal on an ADP, (dude who owns it thinks its a limited edition device. XD ), and I would like to know a few things about it.
I did some digging around and found a 2.2 upgrade mod. Now, I understand that the ADP has root and a custom bootloader installed, so there would be no need for Cyano or z4root, right? Can I just flash up 2.2? What about the "radio", do I need to worry about the "radio" issue messing up with the phone? Can I dual boot a OEM T-Mobile rom alongside the ADP rom? Also, when I go to the location to complete the transaction, how can I verify that it IS a dev phone? (Besides cosmetic looks).
Thanks for all your help, guys. I really appreciate it.
(FYI: I intend to use the phone as a desk dev phone, nothing fancy except a trip out the house for music and application testing.)

You WILL have to worry about Radio-HBOOT compatibility when you are flashing different ROMs. Most new ROMs now require the 2708 Radio port by ezterry, but CM6.1 requires Danger SPL and a different radio. You can tell that it's an ADP1 by putting it in fastboot mode (turn the phone on with the on button and the camera button held down) and checking the HBOOT number (sorry I forgot what HBOOT is specific to the ADP1 but I assume it's the Hard SPL.)
Hope I helped.

*NOTHING* requires deathspl. Search for "custom mtd" and you will understand why.

raydar670 said:
You WILL have to worry about Radio-HBOOT compatibility when you are flashing different ROMs. Most new ROMs now require the 2700 Radio port by ezterry, but CM6.1 requires Danger SPL and a different radio. You can tell that it's an ADP1 by putting it in fastboot mode (turn the phone on with the on button and the camera button held down) and checking the HBOOT number (sorry I forgot what HBOOT is specific to the ADP1 but I assume it's the Hard SPL.)
Hope I helped.
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Thanks!
I can tell the radio version on the about screen right?

dhkr234 said:
*NOTHING* requires deathspl. Search for "custom mtd" and you will understand why.
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Oh yeah! I forgot about that. So yeah you don't need Danger SPL and it's not really recommended anymore, although the new SPL by ezterry is required by many new roms.
Edit: Danger/Death/Haykuro SPL are all the same SPL

Volnutt said:
Thanks!
I can tell the radio version on the about screen right?
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Yep it'll be under Baseband version.
Oh and here's the link to Ezterry's spl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139

raydar670 said:
Yep it'll be under Baseband version.
Oh and here's the link to Ezterry's spl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
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Fantastic! Just what I needed!
Thanks so much guys!