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Have questions can anyone help?

I am running JF 1.51 with app2sd. I am really wanting to try the magic rom. I have the latest radio that was required to update to cupcake. I am nervous about updating the SPL because I accidently install the radio twice on my last G1 and it fried it. Is it worth the switch? If so how do I change from JF and then go to the Hero rom? I have found some stuff but nothing on switching SPL from JF to any other without bricking my phone.
Thanks in advance....

Sorry not magic rom HERO ROM.

Make sure your phone has the PVT board (it will tell you in your current SPL screen). If you do, I recommend this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3816278&postcount=3
I followed to a "T" without any problems.
Good luck and a little positive energy toward your fone never hurt You will need the newest SPL to load HERO due to the size of the ROM. I know some people have piece-mealed their on HERO builds making them smaller than the orig Haykuro one, but I think they all still require the newest SPL. Just remember, more than just a couple of people have bricked their fones flashing this SPL...
Aloha-

That just seems odd to me I am not sure... So I should have JF 1.51 on one card and the SPL on the other? Which goes in first. I have the JF boot loader now. How do you know what SPL you have? Can I update from one to the other without bricking?

Hold camera then power and the SPL screen will come up and tell u what version u have (if it's rainbow screen you are still on stock). There are many threads dealing with flashing the SPL. Check Haykuro's blog also. I don't want to give some information and someone have bad results. So I recommend reading all that u can before you try.
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3816278#post3816278
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
These are a good place to start. U might need dig around a little, and I recommend reading a lot. Don't try it if you're not comfortable.

Ok thanks I will do some more reading... I have stock then... When i rooted it it was the rainbow... Thanks again.

Ok Want to check to make sure...
This iis what I got on the Rainbow screen...
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
Radio-2.22.19.26i
So I should be able to follow that first tutorial you sent becuase I take it that this is a PVT board.

One last thing If I do update the SPL can I stay with JF builds if I decide too?

Anyone? I have been searching and I can not figure out some answers. Like if I do not want to update to hero now and stay with JF can I? Or if I do in the 2 card tutorial on updating SPL can I have hero already or since I am on JF 1.51 now do I have to stay with it then after done wipe then install hero rom?

Changing the SPL will not limit you to a specific ROM so you should be able to run Haykuro's 1.5, JF's 1.5 (including all variations) as well as HERO etc... Some ROM's larger size necessitate the use of the newer SPL because it's smaller (the SPL that is). Also need to remember that once you commit to the new SPL, you cannot downgrade the radio as per Haykuro. Be careful moving from the stock SPL to the newest one. I'm not sure if there could be any problems, you might search for something related to that subject. Also, what's really great about using non-stock SPL's is that they allow the use of fastboot to reflash the .img's created by the Recovery console. Which means once you have a good stable ROM on your fone, you back it up and play with your fone all u want (pretty much) knowing that u can go right back to the "good" build you backed using just 3 simple commands from fastboot. Good luck.
Aloha-

1 Click Rooting...

Ok I've done the 1 Click Root process. The problem is, I totally UNrooted my phone before I did the 1 click root. I tried to load a Hero rom I got off the www.theunlockr.com website but I had to update the SPL which bricked my phone. I did wipe first so thats not the problem. I don't know what went wrong when I bricked my phone. I am getting a new from t-mobile(I kinda told them the donut 1.6 update screwed my phone up).
Now I want to root again with the 1 click but do I need to go back to the original build RC29 build or whatever it was in order to root with the 1 click ? And when I flash to a new rom do I need to update the SPL again?

READ FIRST!! I dont know where so search. I dont feel like finding you all the guides warnings and post about it. There are many precautions to take while flashing hero and even if you follow all of them to the "T" you still have a big chance of bricking your phone so use the Search Bar

nickryan0612 said:
READ FIRST!! I dont know where so search. I dont feel like finding you all the guides warnings and post about it. There are many precautions to take while flashing hero and even if you follow all of them to the "T" you still have a big chance of bricking your phone so use the Search Bar
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The thing is I've flashed all sorts of rom's before, but I wanted to try the 1 click rooting process. I think what happened is I flashed the SPL before I flashed the updated radio. I was doing some research on the whole thing. I flashed the SPL first.

if you use the DREAIMG.nbh to go back to rc-29, it is really easier to use the telnet commands then it is to root with the one click imo, you can use one-click root, but you have to find the newer version of the recovery flasher, and if you use it and don't flash a custom rom, then the system will overwrite the custom recovery image with the stock one. if you use the telnet commands then you will overwrite the stock recovery image with a custom one, so the telnet commands are more stable
to update your spl, make sure you have a pvt board in bootloader (camera and power) and that your radio is 2.22.19.26I (make sure you have that radio, not just assume after you flash it) then you can get rid of all the user error in flashing the 1.33.2005 SPL.

xOneSainTx said:
The thing is I've flashed all sorts of rom's before, but I wanted to try the 1 click rooting process. I think what happened is I flashed the SPL before I flashed the updated radio. I was doing some research on the whole thing. I flashed the SPL first.
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Were you already rooted when you did the 1 click root? - if you were then that might have been were the mess up happened because once you do the one click root you have to flash a rom (probabably cyanogen would be best) to continue or you lose root.
Following that question if you were already rooted and had hard spl and new radio - the one click might have cause you to lose that.
You have to flash from hard spl to danger spl
Radio should be newest or second to newest
Also it is said to flash hero rom right after flashing spl. - Which means not turning off your phone or rebooting after flashing
- I saw a video were they were at the rainbow boot screen and they flashed the Danger Spl and then inserted a new sd card that had hero and flashed it without rebooting.
Read up more on this

is one click still ok ?
I've had my G1 for about a yr now. Watching the mods grow . Never had thought about rooting just because I didn't want to have to keep changing to keep up to date. Then the one click came out and it was time. Ordered my 8gig class6 sd and before I got it Google did this C&D to CY. I see people saying they are doing the 1 click method and the links they put on are before the C&D. Can it still work ? Also everyone who tries to give directions how to get root and roms are different. Even this thread has been changed or something was left out. Is there a true one click method ? I tried theUnlockr way 3 times and I still wound upwith a wiped phone. Please Help Me ...

nPHILLY said:
I've had my G1 for about a yr now. Watching the mods grow . Never had thought about rooting just because I didn't want to have to keep changing to keep up to date. Then the one click came out and it was time. Ordered my 8gig class6 sd and before I got it Google did this C&D to CY. I see people saying they are doing the 1 click method and the links they put on are before the C&D. Can it still work ? Also everyone who tries to give directions how to get root and roms are different. Even this thread has been changed or something was left out. Is there a true one click method ? I tried theUnlockr way 3 times and I still wound upwith a wiped phone. Please Help Me ...
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one click will not work in donut 1.6. it will be patched, there is a thorough guide in my sig. i also have links i can give you for cm 4.0.4 and 4.1.11.1 if you want them.

1-click root only works with CRC1 and lower. Personally, I prefer to downgrade to RC29 and manually root it. I've done it about 20 times that way and have never once had an issue. In fact, I did it last night and today that way and both phones are rooted with Hero ROMs and running perfectly.
My advice, find a good tutorial (there are plenty, particularly the stickies on XDA on the subject) and download all necessary files ahead of time so that you aren't stuck in the middle of rooting looking for a file. If you want to flash the update "Danger" SPL, there is a combination radio/spl so that bricking is less likely. Search XDA for it. Also, check if you have PVT board first (camera+power). If not, brick it you will (or more than likely will). If I had to guess the main reason for problems and bricks it is that people rush the process and skip steps because they started the process without reading the whole tutorial.

nickryan0612 said:
Were you already rooted when you did the 1 click root? - if you were then that might have been were the mess up happened because once you do the one click root you have to flash a rom (probabably cyanogen would be best) to continue or you lose root.
Following that question if you were already rooted and had hard spl and new radio - the one click might have cause you to lose that.
You have to flash from hard spl to danger spl
Radio should be newest or second to newest
Also it is said to flash hero rom right after flashing spl. - Which means not turning off your phone or rebooting after flashing
- I saw a video were they were at the rainbow boot screen and they flashed the Danger Spl and then inserted a new sd card that had hero and flashed it without rebooting.
Read up more on this
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I was rooted before I did the one click but I downgraded to RC29 with DREAIMG.nbh file. I did the 1 click process fine. I figured that what fxcked up my phone is that i flashed the custom SPL before I flashed the new radio first. I'm pretty sure thats what messed it up. I wanted to the Amon Ra's Recovery image and I didn't know how install that with out doing the 1 click root process.

ya if you flash spl before raidio that's what messed you up ! always radio first then spl . but you know that now .can you get in recovery at all ?

lucky 69 said:
ya if you flash spl before raidio that's what messed you up ! always radio first then spl . but you know that now .can you get in recovery at all ?
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No I can't get passed the G1 boot screen. Its ok though T-Mo is sending me a "LIKE NEW" G1. I told them the donut update screwed my phone up. I can't believe I did the SPL first but its a mistake that could have cost me more then a 19.95 delivery fee that IS being waived by T-Mo.
But heres the question with 1 click root do I need to downgrade to RC29 or no?

xOneSainTx said:
No I can't get passed the G1 boot screen. Its ok though T-Mo is sending me a "LIKE NEW" G1. I told them the donut update screwed my phone up. I can't believe I did the SPL first but its a mistake that could have cost me more then a 19.95 delivery fee that IS being waived by T-Mo.
But heres the question with 1 click root do I need to downgrade to RC29 or no?
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no just be on stock cupcake and use the 1 click root. Then when you did that go into recovery and flash a rom that is not hero or requires danger spl

nickryan0612 said:
no just be on stock cupcake and use the 1 click root. Then when you did that go into recovery and flash a rom that is not hero or requires danger spl
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Sounds good. Before screwing things up I always had good success in flashing roms trying multiple roms in a day. My favorite is the xRom. I am curious to see if eventually there will be a Cliq rom.

Just curious about radios and SPLs

Hello all,
I am just a little curious about the radios and SPLs. I have a rooted MT3G that is a 32B. I have been told i should update these on my phone but i dont understand the reason for it. If you could help me out that would be great. I have been searching for a while and am still lost. Also if i should flash new ones, which are best for a 32B MT3G?
thanks

Just my experience
I've got a UK HTC Magic (32B, same as you) with the stock 0006 SPL and stock radio. I've flashed all sorts of roms, many of which require Danger/Death SPL on the G1 and I've never had any problems. Espresso roms, Eclair roms and (my personal favorite) Super D. All worked fine. Flashing the SPL is the only thing that puts you in any real danger of properly bricking your phone, so if you haven't had any problems flashing the bigger roms out there, I wouldn't (well, I actually haven't) bother about it.
If it ain't broke...

Updating radio and SPL its not a must on MT3G, since they got a larger stock SPL than the G1, so its no really neccesary. I wouldnt recommend to update it, only if you are 100% sure of what you are doing, because it can brick your phone.

Well I know what im doing, I mess with this sort of thing all the time. From PSPs to CMOS on a PC, I'm quite comfortable doing this type of work. I was mainly just curious if it was necessary on the MT3G, or if anything could be gained from it. Thanks guys.

Watch the video tutorials about radios & spl if you're ready to update. It's easy, just have to be precise or you'll brick your device.
BoomBoomPOW said:
SPL & Radio Resources: Click & Click
SPL & Radio videos - Click & Click & Click
You should set up ADB - Click (Here's a video guide if you don't like reading - Click)
Also, download & install DroidExplorer as well after setting up ADB - Click
Helpful YouTube channels: ItsAndroidsWorld, raw415, thegadgetpro, EmoGamer, droiddog
Helpful Sites & Reading: TheUnlockr, CyanogenMod Wiki, Sapphire Hacking Wiki, Sapphire/HTC Magic Resource Info
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And since you have a MT3G 32B then there's no need to update the radio, just the SPL. Wipe, flash SPL, reboot back to recovery, then flash rom. It's that easy.

Danger SPL

there you go malaeus
i have read all the wonderful posts about Hard SPL and haykuro's death SPL.
i have successfully made the transition to haykuro's death SPL myself, however. a friend of mine has a G1 as well, i have rooted their phone. and put the latest cyanogen mod on it. i have NOT updated the SPL for cyanogen (because it was optional, and they didnt want a chance of brick)
NOW they want me to try out a new mod for them on their phone. this new mod requires the death SPL, however they already have the LATEST radio 26I.
am i able to simply flash the new haykuro death spl like anything else? with no issues seeing as how the phone already has the latest radio (thanks to cyanogen build)?
i cant risk bricking his phone as i have no cash to replace it.
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hiddengopher said:
there you go malaeus
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okay If you have to have the latest version of the radio on the phone before you upgrade the spl, then why would you not just upgrade the spl? since you already have the latest radio.search for this in dream general forum: Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005

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malaeus said:
the reason i didnt just f**in flash the SPL is..
BECAUSE ITS NOT MY DAMN PHONE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
i already did the spl on my own forever ago, but all at once. with the radio.
this guy had it on there for awhile.
if anyone would have actually just read my post and given me a simple answer ... i swear this is just sick....
thanks for the simple answer, and for the sarcasm, go shove it.
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dude chill, I did this kindly for you without sarcasm. Why do you have to freak out when someone calmly tells you how to do something?

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why not just flash the haykuro radio just to be safe? reflash the radio then the spl.

[Q] ADP1 Questions

Found a great steal on an ADP, (dude who owns it thinks its a limited edition device. XD ), and I would like to know a few things about it.
I did some digging around and found a 2.2 upgrade mod. Now, I understand that the ADP has root and a custom bootloader installed, so there would be no need for Cyano or z4root, right? Can I just flash up 2.2? What about the "radio", do I need to worry about the "radio" issue messing up with the phone? Can I dual boot a OEM T-Mobile rom alongside the ADP rom? Also, when I go to the location to complete the transaction, how can I verify that it IS a dev phone? (Besides cosmetic looks).
Thanks for all your help, guys. I really appreciate it.
(FYI: I intend to use the phone as a desk dev phone, nothing fancy except a trip out the house for music and application testing.)

You WILL have to worry about Radio-HBOOT compatibility when you are flashing different ROMs. Most new ROMs now require the 2708 Radio port by ezterry, but CM6.1 requires Danger SPL and a different radio. You can tell that it's an ADP1 by putting it in fastboot mode (turn the phone on with the on button and the camera button held down) and checking the HBOOT number (sorry I forgot what HBOOT is specific to the ADP1 but I assume it's the Hard SPL.)
Hope I helped.

*NOTHING* requires deathspl. Search for "custom mtd" and you will understand why.

raydar670 said:
You WILL have to worry about Radio-HBOOT compatibility when you are flashing different ROMs. Most new ROMs now require the 2700 Radio port by ezterry, but CM6.1 requires Danger SPL and a different radio. You can tell that it's an ADP1 by putting it in fastboot mode (turn the phone on with the on button and the camera button held down) and checking the HBOOT number (sorry I forgot what HBOOT is specific to the ADP1 but I assume it's the Hard SPL.)
Hope I helped.
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Thanks!
I can tell the radio version on the about screen right?

dhkr234 said:
*NOTHING* requires deathspl. Search for "custom mtd" and you will understand why.
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Oh yeah! I forgot about that. So yeah you don't need Danger SPL and it's not really recommended anymore, although the new SPL by ezterry is required by many new roms.
Edit: Danger/Death/Haykuro SPL are all the same SPL

Volnutt said:
Thanks!
I can tell the radio version on the about screen right?
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Yep it'll be under Baseband version.
Oh and here's the link to Ezterry's spl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139

raydar670 said:
Yep it'll be under Baseband version.
Oh and here's the link to Ezterry's spl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
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Fantastic! Just what I needed!
Thanks so much guys!