Have questions can anyone help? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am running JF 1.51 with app2sd. I am really wanting to try the magic rom. I have the latest radio that was required to update to cupcake. I am nervous about updating the SPL because I accidently install the radio twice on my last G1 and it fried it. Is it worth the switch? If so how do I change from JF and then go to the Hero rom? I have found some stuff but nothing on switching SPL from JF to any other without bricking my phone.
Thanks in advance....

Sorry not magic rom HERO ROM.

Make sure your phone has the PVT board (it will tell you in your current SPL screen). If you do, I recommend this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3816278&postcount=3
I followed to a "T" without any problems.
Good luck and a little positive energy toward your fone never hurt You will need the newest SPL to load HERO due to the size of the ROM. I know some people have piece-mealed their on HERO builds making them smaller than the orig Haykuro one, but I think they all still require the newest SPL. Just remember, more than just a couple of people have bricked their fones flashing this SPL...
Aloha-

That just seems odd to me I am not sure... So I should have JF 1.51 on one card and the SPL on the other? Which goes in first. I have the JF boot loader now. How do you know what SPL you have? Can I update from one to the other without bricking?

Hold camera then power and the SPL screen will come up and tell u what version u have (if it's rainbow screen you are still on stock). There are many threads dealing with flashing the SPL. Check Haykuro's blog also. I don't want to give some information and someone have bad results. So I recommend reading all that u can before you try.
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3816278#post3816278
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
These are a good place to start. U might need dig around a little, and I recommend reading a lot. Don't try it if you're not comfortable.

Ok thanks I will do some more reading... I have stock then... When i rooted it it was the rainbow... Thanks again.

Ok Want to check to make sure...
This iis what I got on the Rainbow screen...
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
Radio-2.22.19.26i
So I should be able to follow that first tutorial you sent becuase I take it that this is a PVT board.

One last thing If I do update the SPL can I stay with JF builds if I decide too?

Anyone? I have been searching and I can not figure out some answers. Like if I do not want to update to hero now and stay with JF can I? Or if I do in the 2 card tutorial on updating SPL can I have hero already or since I am on JF 1.51 now do I have to stay with it then after done wipe then install hero rom?

Changing the SPL will not limit you to a specific ROM so you should be able to run Haykuro's 1.5, JF's 1.5 (including all variations) as well as HERO etc... Some ROM's larger size necessitate the use of the newer SPL because it's smaller (the SPL that is). Also need to remember that once you commit to the new SPL, you cannot downgrade the radio as per Haykuro. Be careful moving from the stock SPL to the newest one. I'm not sure if there could be any problems, you might search for something related to that subject. Also, what's really great about using non-stock SPL's is that they allow the use of fastboot to reflash the .img's created by the Recovery console. Which means once you have a good stable ROM on your fone, you back it up and play with your fone all u want (pretty much) knowing that u can go right back to the "good" build you backed using just 3 simple commands from fastboot. Good luck.
Aloha-

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[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

How to avoid brick when updating to Haykuro's SPL.

Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.
Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.
Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.
Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:
keatonreckard said:
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?

Radio and SPL questions

so after many many Cyanogen releases, my phone is not as responsive as it once was. I am wondering if I should wipe and reflash the devphone ota update then cyanogens and if I do will it brick my phone? I have the 22i radio and the "Danger" spl. From what i remember, the ota update writes the radio. It is the 22i one, but with it rewriting it will it brick my phone when it does?
or
should i just do a wipe and reflash just cyanogens?
you mean you have the 26I radio...
Are you talking about the HTC recovery ota that you flash first before you flash before Cyanogen's?
That is basically what HTC refers to as an update.zip
If it does flash over the radio, which I don't think it does, it already is the 26I radio, so it won't hurt anything.
But I have flashed over Cyanogen several times using the same process, and it has not bricked my phone. You will have no problems either.
Yes sorry, the 26I, and i am talking about the update.zip that you flash before Cyanogen's. I thought I was ok, i just wanted to check that rewriting the radio, even if it is the same wouldn't brick the phone
This may be the wrong thread but I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm running dwang 1.17.1 with a 26I radio. Can I flash the haykuro "danger" "death" spl? I want it because some themes require it. I have the correct board "PVT" when I look in fastboot, I'm just wondering since I have the ram hack if this will brick my phone or not. Noob question, I lnow. TIA. Ill post this else where if needed... ill watch family guy till then
you have the radio that you need to flash over the spl.
the ram hack has nothing to do with the spl. it is only for that rom. for example, if you have cyanogen 4.2.11.1 and you upgrade to 4.2.12.2, the ram hack goes away. It's part of the boot.img.
You can flash the danger spl, but be warned, even if you have everything right, there is still a possibility that something could go haywire and it could brick your phone.
afterwards, you will have to reflash a rom once the spl successfully installs.
Good luck.
Thanks taz. Ill try it out

Just curious about radios and SPLs

Hello all,
I am just a little curious about the radios and SPLs. I have a rooted MT3G that is a 32B. I have been told i should update these on my phone but i dont understand the reason for it. If you could help me out that would be great. I have been searching for a while and am still lost. Also if i should flash new ones, which are best for a 32B MT3G?
thanks
Just my experience
I've got a UK HTC Magic (32B, same as you) with the stock 0006 SPL and stock radio. I've flashed all sorts of roms, many of which require Danger/Death SPL on the G1 and I've never had any problems. Espresso roms, Eclair roms and (my personal favorite) Super D. All worked fine. Flashing the SPL is the only thing that puts you in any real danger of properly bricking your phone, so if you haven't had any problems flashing the bigger roms out there, I wouldn't (well, I actually haven't) bother about it.
If it ain't broke...
Updating radio and SPL its not a must on MT3G, since they got a larger stock SPL than the G1, so its no really neccesary. I wouldnt recommend to update it, only if you are 100% sure of what you are doing, because it can brick your phone.
Well I know what im doing, I mess with this sort of thing all the time. From PSPs to CMOS on a PC, I'm quite comfortable doing this type of work. I was mainly just curious if it was necessary on the MT3G, or if anything could be gained from it. Thanks guys.
Watch the video tutorials about radios & spl if you're ready to update. It's easy, just have to be precise or you'll brick your device.
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SPL & Radio Resources: Click & Click
SPL & Radio videos - Click & Click & Click
You should set up ADB - Click (Here's a video guide if you don't like reading - Click)
Also, download & install DroidExplorer as well after setting up ADB - Click
Helpful YouTube channels: ItsAndroidsWorld, raw415, thegadgetpro, EmoGamer, droiddog
Helpful Sites & Reading: TheUnlockr, CyanogenMod Wiki, Sapphire Hacking Wiki, Sapphire/HTC Magic Resource Info
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And since you have a MT3G 32B then there's no need to update the radio, just the SPL. Wipe, flash SPL, reboot back to recovery, then flash rom. It's that easy.

help laggy cyanogenmod flash

I just rooted my phone this afternoon but im new
and still confused about most things.
I rooted my phone by downgrading to 1.5 and
now im running 1.6 with cyanogenmod 4.2.1 but
it doesnt seem to be very fast, its quite slow and
laggy and im wondering why that is.
recovery 1.4 i think.
kernal 2.6.29.6cm42
drc83
dont know what other info might be important.
Some games that didnt lag before lag now like armoured strike online, it can barely start and force closes alot.
also what is a newer version that is built around
android 2.0, is quite fast,looks good and doesnt
need the danger spl.
Im on a unlocked g1 in the uk
I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.
SmoothMarx said:
I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.
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Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?
I booted into recovery mode i think holding the camara and power and iv discovered something im confused about. (nothing new there)
Hboot 1.33.2005 (drea11000)
Radio 2.22.19.26I
cant post the link.....
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1.33.2005 Danger SPL
VER: HBOOT-1.33.2005
ZIP: spl-signed.zip or spl-signed_1.33.2005.zip
MD5: 2112b7df6ed9d0a56897ac23b0399bb5
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?
eraldo said:
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?
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Yes, if it says 1.33.2005 (DREA10000) then you have the Danger SPL
Here's some info: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Bootloader
eraldo said:
Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?
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See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655097

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