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I just tried to install the newest Haykuro SPL on my rooted G1, and now it stays at the T-Mobile screen. I can access the recovery utility, but when I press Home and Back to restart it just goes back the recovery menu..Any help?? Can I apply the offcial cupcake update?

First, please use the search feature of the forums and do plenty of research before attempting to mod your phone next time.
In recovery try wiping (alt+w) then reboot, If that doesn't work I'm out of ideas, search will probably return useful results as I've seen quite a few threads pertaining to issues with this SPL.

No my phone was already modded, it worked fine when I wrote over JF's 1.51. But when I tried to use this SPL it didn't work. I need to reflash over JF firmware for it to work. But I don't have a MicroSD Card Adapter, damn..
Can the G1 access via USB by putting it in BootLoader mode, or something??

I think(am no way certian tho) that you can access the sd via adb shell while in recovery mode, you'll need to do some looking into it tho. If I were you first thing tomarrow I'd pick up one of these even if you do manage to fix it by then. I use mine alot due to funking things up with modded themes and what not.

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Got it working, I reflashed it with JF's newest build. I wonder what I did wrong though when I tried flashing the latest Haykuro's SPL. I want to go to the newest Hero build but I am scared I might mess up my phone again.

Good to hear. I'd do alot more research before going any further. SPL's are where bricking turns from nearly impossible to easy as pie. Check out all the brick posts to see what NOT to do. Can be very helpful info.
ps. next time for pete's sake put something more useful than "help.." in the title of your thread.

First things first, check if you did get the spl to load. Turn off your phone and hold camera button and power. The screen that comes up should tell you what SPL you are using.

BigWorldJust said:
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Got it working, I reflashed it with JF's newest build. I wonder what I did wrong though when I tried flashing the latest Haykuro's SPL. I want to go to the newest Hero build but I am scared I might mess up my phone again.
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You didn't do anything 'wrong'. Flashing a new SPL repartitions your phones internal memory, destroying your ROM, thus requiring a ROM reflash after the SPL.
Honestly, what are you doing flashing a SPL when you do not understand what it does or how it works?

Excuse me Mr. Perfect. I didn't know that I had to reflash a ROM right on top of flashing the new SPL. Thus if what you are saying is true, I should have the new SPL than since I reinstalled the JF Rom?

BigWorldJust said:
Excuse me Mr. Perfect. I didn't know that I had to reflash a ROM right on top of flashing the new SPL. Thus if what you are saying is true, I should have the new SPL than since I reinstalled the JF Rom?
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Not trying to be a ****, but this is how people end up with bricks. Believe it or not, I'm actually trying to save you from doing that.
And yes, if you flashed the new SPL then JF's (or any ROM, really) than you still have the new SPL.

I know what you mean, I thought I had bricked it last night because of the SPL install. Alright I checked and indeed do have the new SPL. What ROM do you recommend using, that doesn't require Apps2SD as I cannot even use without a Class 6 MicroSD Card? JF's ROM is pretty bland, if you know what I mean.

wipe and re-flash the rom you want and please click the link in my sig

Thanks but what ROM do you recommend that doesn't require Apps2SD to run good and looks cool and customized? Does Cyanogen's require Apps2SD to run properly?

BigWorldJust said:
Thanks but what ROM do you recommend that doesn't require Apps2SD to run good and looks cool and customized? Does Cyanogen's require Apps2SD to run properly?
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yes a2sd works on 3.4.
but if you would like to know more about Cyanogen's rom... click the link to it!
also click the other link i have

Aight, one more question. Does it require Apps2SD to run properly though? Or can I install it and expect it to run good without Apps2SD ?

BigWorldJust said:
Aight, one more question. Does it require Apps2SD to run properly though? Or can I install it and expect it to run good without Apps2SD ?
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that was two questions btw...
1. NO!
2. YES!

LoL, sorry I meant two . Thanks for the help, I'll try The Dude's Cupcake 1.3RC1 first, and if I don't favor it I'll try Cyanogen's.

[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks

1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.

Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?

alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.

No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^

Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?

He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-

Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!

Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.

This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.

As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.

Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake

Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!

I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

what is the danger spl and how does it differ from hard spl?

why do the eclair and hero roms require it?
and what is an spl exactly? from my understanding it's similar to a bios on a pc?

Hakykuro SPL is the SPL from the ,agic with some hex edits and other things by Haykuro himself. It reallocates the data partition of the phone from 45MB-->90MB which allows larger roms like hero to be installed. This is dangerous because it can brick phones since it wasnt made for us to use. The data partition was 45 because the rest was used by the OTA thing from tmo that reserved that space, but OTA is useless for rooted devices so the SPL allows heros to be born!
-Best regards Ace

Ace42 said:
Hakykuro SPL is the SPL from the ,agic with some hex edits and other things by Haykuro himself. It reallocates the data partition of the phone from 45MB-->90MB which allows larger roms like hero to be installed. This is dangerous because it can brick phones since it wasnt made for us to use. The data partition was 45 because the rest was used by the OTA thing from tmo that reserved that space, but OTA is useless for rooted devices so the SPL allows heros to be born!
-Best regards Ace
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^ 100% right, this. It's a dirty little hack to give us the room to dev, and it's dangerous, but man, it has allowed for some amazing stuff.

so why is it risky? what causes the potential for bricking?

gonintendo said:
so why is it risky? what causes the potential for bricking?
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If you don't have the right radio it WILL brick your phone
Just make sure you flash the correct radio, reboot
Flash the SPL, reboot
and the majority of the time you are fine
There has been people who claim they were on the correct radio version and still ended up with a brick, hence it being dubbed "The Danger SPL" cause anything can happen

gonintendo said:
why do the eclair and hero roms require it?
and what is an spl exactly? from my understanding it's similar to a bios on a pc?
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sorry to say but if your asking this then you should probably not even consider it. just being honest.

Binary100100 said:
sorry to say but if your asking this then you should probably not even consider it. just being honest.
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lol, actually I have been using danger and running hero roms for about a month. so far so good!

so once you have flashed, is there any danger? and I assume that you wouldn't want to do an ota update (not that I would) after flashing this spl? can you flash a stock rom the old fashioned way w/o trouble? (I would imagine yes?)

gonintendo said:
so once you have flashed, is there any danger? and I assume that you wouldn't want to do an ota update (not that I would) after flashing this spl? can you flash a stock rom the old fashioned way w/o trouble? (I would imagine yes?)
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You would flash one of enom's base roms that are OTA's with root access.

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You would flash one of enom's base roms that are OTA's with root access.
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ok that's what I thought. thanks.

Is there anyone out there that uses the Danger SPL with Cyanogen ROM?
If so, ran into any problems? Also, would this be needed for an Eclair CM build?
Seems like every Eclair build requires it.
Only reason why I'm wondering is because I think it would solve some problems on the device. Seeing how I have an added theme to the mix and the file sizes probably differ than what was once stock...

philosophics said:
Is there anyone out there that uses the Danger SPL with Cyanogen ROM?
If so, ran into any problems? Also, would this be needed for an Eclair CM build?
Seems like every Eclair build requires it.
Only reason why I'm wondering is because I think it would solve some problems on the device. Seeing how I have an added theme to the mix and the file sizes probably differ than what was once stock...
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I used cyanogen the other day. The only problem is having more room for everything, but I see that as a plus. It probably would need the Haykuro spl, yes.

Danger SPL

there you go malaeus
i have read all the wonderful posts about Hard SPL and haykuro's death SPL.
i have successfully made the transition to haykuro's death SPL myself, however. a friend of mine has a G1 as well, i have rooted their phone. and put the latest cyanogen mod on it. i have NOT updated the SPL for cyanogen (because it was optional, and they didnt want a chance of brick)
NOW they want me to try out a new mod for them on their phone. this new mod requires the death SPL, however they already have the LATEST radio 26I.
am i able to simply flash the new haykuro death spl like anything else? with no issues seeing as how the phone already has the latest radio (thanks to cyanogen build)?
i cant risk bricking his phone as i have no cash to replace it.
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hiddengopher said:
there you go malaeus
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okay If you have to have the latest version of the radio on the phone before you upgrade the spl, then why would you not just upgrade the spl? since you already have the latest radio.search for this in dream general forum: Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005

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malaeus said:
the reason i didnt just f**in flash the SPL is..
BECAUSE ITS NOT MY DAMN PHONE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
i already did the spl on my own forever ago, but all at once. with the radio.
this guy had it on there for awhile.
if anyone would have actually just read my post and given me a simple answer ... i swear this is just sick....
thanks for the simple answer, and for the sarcasm, go shove it.
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dude chill, I did this kindly for you without sarcasm. Why do you have to freak out when someone calmly tells you how to do something?

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why not just flash the haykuro radio just to be safe? reflash the radio then the spl.

help laggy cyanogenmod flash

I just rooted my phone this afternoon but im new
and still confused about most things.
I rooted my phone by downgrading to 1.5 and
now im running 1.6 with cyanogenmod 4.2.1 but
it doesnt seem to be very fast, its quite slow and
laggy and im wondering why that is.
recovery 1.4 i think.
kernal 2.6.29.6cm42
drc83
dont know what other info might be important.
Some games that didnt lag before lag now like armoured strike online, it can barely start and force closes alot.
also what is a newer version that is built around
android 2.0, is quite fast,looks good and doesnt
need the danger spl.
Im on a unlocked g1 in the uk

I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.

SmoothMarx said:
I have the same phone.
First of all, I think the phone is outdated. you need to update to cyanogen 5.0.8. BUT!!!!!!!!!!! very important "but" don't forget to flash the radios first OR YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. There are a couple of ROMs I believe you might find that don't require danger SPL, but you'd only be doing yourself good if you flashed it.
There are plenty of tutorials on xda that you may follow to get this done.
Don't worry, I'm a noob as well and as long as you follow all the steps accurately, you won't hit a hitch. I haven't yet.
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Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?

I booted into recovery mode i think holding the camara and power and iv discovered something im confused about. (nothing new there)
Hboot 1.33.2005 (drea11000)
Radio 2.22.19.26I
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1.33.2005 Danger SPL
VER: HBOOT-1.33.2005
ZIP: spl-signed.zip or spl-signed_1.33.2005.zip
MD5: 2112b7df6ed9d0a56897ac23b0399bb5
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?

eraldo said:
Does that mean im already running the danger spl?
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Yes, if it says 1.33.2005 (DREA10000) then you have the Danger SPL
Here's some info: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Bootloader

eraldo said:
Thanks for the reply, which tutorial did you follow?
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See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655097