Hi there,
I just got an old Diamond without a battery and would like to see, if it still works. Connecting it with the power cable, nothing happens. But I guess, this is normal, at least my Touch HD can't be started without the battery inside.
However, is there a way to start the phone although it has no battery in it, but the power cable plugged in? Somehow bridging the gap or something? I have no idea.
I already ordered a battery, but it takes another two weeks until it arrives.
Thanks!
you could start it attached to dc power supply, like that (mine is the same)
http://www.ipmart.com/contents/products/P108000/108109/thumbnail/200.jpg
Sorry, don't have such a machine. I only have this usb power supply.
no chance to do that then
btw, maybe you could help me in neighbour thread?
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What the heck is going on?
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the ROM, because it did this with the factory ROM, Manila 2d and now WM6.5.
I turned the phone off, unplugged it, removed the battery. I put the battery back in, replace the cover and press the power button. Nothing happens. I plug the phone back in to the wall charger and put power, it turns on....for about 3 seconds then reboots and it would seem that it will do this for as long as I let it go. If I unplug the phone while this is going on, it will die.
The last time this happened, it took it about a day and a half to sort itself out. It almost seems like its a battery issue.
Any thoughts or ideas?
UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
zz_3.14_zz said:
UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
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mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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LuXx said:
mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
LuXx said:
tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
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Teej53214 said:
I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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LuXx said:
Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
LuXx said:
no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
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tried bootloader and installed official att rom and never shut off. when it was finished with install same issues appeared. help
For anyone facing this issue I would not recommend wasting money on a new battery as this issue has been around with few users since the Kaiser "Tilt" first came out and I've never seen ANY reports that a new battery fixes this. People have bought new batteries, fully charged their battery from a docking station, tried their friends fully charged battery all with the same result. I had this power down issue a Looong time ago my first week in with the Kaiser and managed a fix and am using the same battery now. Although it seems the battery is not being fully charged it's important to leave it charging until you'd assume it's fully charged and get into bootloader mode and flash an official htc Tytn 2 rom. It should flash completely, and the fact that it does not die immediately as on normal boot indicates it is not the battery but the rom. It did take me the whole afternoon of Flashing, recharging and repeating before it finally kicked in. Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Yup, that is what I had to today (I hard reset, actually), with barely enough battery life to do this.
Then the bloody unit came up and was charging - amazing, really!
(Was using the official HTC 6.1 upgraded WindowsMobile OS)
here is my 2 cents....
I owned five Tilts, replaced four of them with warranty issues ... so i have faced this dilemma on at least two of them.
First see if the USB tongue is loose. To do this try to gently tap it with the stylus. If the tongue inside the USB port is loose then you will be facing rebooting and other issues and troubles in the future. The USB tongue gets used and jerked every time you connect your device to your PC or wired headset. If you are still under warranty and the USB connector tongue is loose I recommend returning the phone ( if you still can) and getting a replacement. There is no easy fix for a loose USB connection tongue as i have taken one apart and it is very difficult to repair or replace and very easy to mess it up further.
So, my advice to all Kaiser owners... be careful when plugging and unplugging your phones through the USB. Do it gently as the connectors are very fragile.
For those that have the above issues, I recommend using a separate battery charger tray, avoid plugging the USB as much as you can, and if you must, then administer extra care. The rebooting will stop if you plug the USB cable to the device and move it up and down a hair then holding steady. And most likely you will not get a full charge or even a partial charge. The biggest culprit to this problem is car chargers, and second, is inserting the stylus by mistake (when it is dark and hard to see) in the USB port instead of the Reset hole by accident.
I have a HP Touchpad that I just opened from its box, so its brand new running stock HP WebOS. The thing is, I bought the tp almost 15 months ago and never unboxed it until yesterday. When I put it up for charging, the dead battery symbol appears( rectangle with a red dash at the bottom and flash on top) and doesn't seem to charge.
Can anyone tell me if this means that my battery has died since it was unused for such a long time?
Or is there anything else that I can do to spring it back to life?
P.S I've tried almost every combination of buttons, e,g Power+Home, Power+Home+Vol Up etc.
Any suggestions on this will be extremely helpful. Thank you very much!
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I have a HP Touchpad that I just opened from its box, so its brand new running stock HP WebOS. The thing is, I bought the tp almost 15 months ago and never unboxed it until yesterday. When I put it up for charging, the dead battery symbol appears( rectangle with a red dash at the bottom and flash on top) and doesn't seem to charge.
Can anyone tell me if this means that my battery has died since it was unused for such a long time?
Or is there anything else that I can do to spring it back to life?
P.S I've tried almost every combination of buttons, e,g Power+Home, Power+Home+Vol Up etc.
Any suggestions on this will be extremely helpful. Thank you very much!
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Just plug it in with the supplied USB and power connector for up to 4 hours. Do not use computer USB.
Carey4782 said:
Just plug it in with the supplied USB and power connector for up to 4 hours. Do not use computer USB.
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I've been charging it overnight. But it still hasn't booted normally.
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I've been charging it overnight. But it still hasn't booted normally.
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I have no idea if this will work, but you might try it:
http://www.slashreboot.com/journal/2012/8/18/an-odd-hp-touchpad-charging-problem.html
Here's another miscellaneous advice:
The round part of the charger, that the USB plugs into. That can twist open and closed to remove the part with the plugs. Make sure its fully tight. They can become loose, which prevents them from working.
Hold the power and home buttons down (not the volume +). press these together and hold them down for 30 seconds (actually shouldn't be that long, but it cant hurt)
If its still not working. Let it charge overnight and try again.
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I have no idea if this will work, but you might try it:
http://www.slashreboot.com/journal/2012/8/18/an-odd-hp-touchpad-charging-problem.html
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Thanks, I'll try that.
Perhaps not quite the same problem, but what I had fail on mine was the HP USB cable - The little contacts must have gotten dirty or something because the Touchpad just wouldn't charge unless I bent the connector in the socket a little.
Not too keen on that so I now use a different USB cable and it's fine.
I also agree with the above, use the dedicated charger supplied and not a USB port.
The tablet is dead, it was suddenly. Won't charge or turn on and it's not recognised by the PC. Recovery mode (power button + volume-) doesn't work either.
I know that is not the screen, because the PC doesn't detect the tablet at all. I tried with another battery (my wife has the same tablet), but I had no luck. I also know that the charger and the usb cable are fine.
What else I can do, any ideas or suggestions?
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The tablet is dead, it was suddenly. Won't charge or turn on and it's not recognised by the PC. Recovery mode (power button + volume-) doesn't work either.
I know that is not the screen, because the PC doesn't detect the tablet at all. I tried with another battery (my wife has the same tablet), but I had no luck. I also know that the charger and the usb cable are fine.
What else I can do, any ideas or suggestions?
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Are you using the OE usb cable? Have you tried charging using the OE wallwart?
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Are you using the OE usb cable? Have you tried charging using the OE wallwart?
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Yes, I'm using the OE usb cables (I have 2) and the OE charger.
maloyztor said:
The tablet is dead, it was suddenly. Won't charge or turn on and it's not recognised by the PC. Recovery mode (power button + volume-) doesn't work either.
I know that is not the screen, because the PC doesn't detect the tablet at all. I tried with another battery (my wife has the same tablet), but I had no luck. I also know that the charger and the usb cable are fine.
What else I can do, any ideas or suggestions?
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I had the same symptoms after disconnecting and reconnecting battery,I hed to disconnect it for like an hour and then three times try to power on the tablet and it did power on. Maybe your battery is dead so after another hour you may try to use the other battery. If it will work, try to connect the batteries together so the dead one can get a little charge (but do some research I am not sure if it won't have a chance to damage anything) then the same after an hour connect try power on and if it powers on immediately give it a charge.
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I had the same symptoms after disconnecting and reconnecting battery,I had to disconnect it for like an hour and then three times try to power on the tablet and it did power on. Maybe your battery is dead so after another hour you may try to use the other battery. If it will work, try to connect the batteries together so the dead one can get a little charge (but do some research I am not sure if it won't have a chance to damage anything) then the same after an hour connect try power on and if it powers on immediately give it a charge.
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Just wondered if you had tried this and if so, how you got on? Asking because I bought my daughter one off ebay and it was working fine when I got it, am sure I recharged it once , she played it and then again in morning and thinks she played it till battery ran out. I have since tried charging via pc and mains power, and have disconnected battery twice (case was v. easy to remove so concerned this fault may be reason it was sold), but cannot get a flicker of a response on screen. i got my daughter this as she was desperate for an android tablet for mods for minecraft as I had bought her a Amazon Fire 7 and from what I could see just after xmas, it wasnt possible to root it or sideload at that time, and she said Amazon had no mods compared to the play store and she had been ecstatic with the mods she had found for her android for the short time she had it. I do know when I plug it into the wall charger that the motherboard area gets warm if its been plugged in for a while? Bit of a noob on this stuff,and off sick with probs with my nervous system so my concentration and memory can be a pia. Anyway I was wondering how I can find out if its goosed or what I can try? One of the batterys advertised on ebay is about £50 which seems steep to me, esp. if it doesnt fix it, and esp since I have been unable to work for a few years cos of this illness. I only bought the tablets cos I had extra money after I finally applied and got pip, and got it backdated. Any recommendations for a reasonably priced option for her for her minecraft? Should I go the tablet\notebook type route or can they not handle minecraft? Bit confused by these new notebooks esp touchscreen ones as new ones seem to have small amounts of ram yet are v. popular.
Thanks for advice\thoughts\feedback and let me know if I should start ,y own thread...I only jumped on this to see how he got on and then as I do nowadays with this illness, I then jumped from topic to topic that jumped into my head x sorry x
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Just wondered if you had tried this and if so, how you got on? Asking because I bought my daughter one off ebay and it was working fine when I got it, am sure I recharged it once , she played it and then again in morning and thinks she played it till battery ran out. I have since tried charging via pc and mains power, and have disconnected battery twice (case was v. easy to remove so concerned this fault may be reason it was sold), but cannot get a flicker of a response on screen. i got my daughter this as she was desperate for an android tablet for mods for minecraft as I had bought her a Amazon Fire 7 and from what I could see just after xmas, it wasnt possible to root it or sideload at that time, and she said Amazon had no mods compared to the play store and she had been ecstatic with the mods she had found for her android for the short time she had it. I do know when I plug it into the wall charger that the motherboard area gets warm if its been plugged in for a while? Bit of a noob on this stuff,and off sick with probs with my nervous system so my concentration and memory can be a pia. Anyway I was wondering how I can find out if its goosed or what I can try? One of the batterys advertised on ebay is about £50 which seems steep to me, esp. if it doesnt fix it, and esp since I have been unable to work for a few years cos of this illness. I only bought the tablets cos I had extra money after I finally applied and got pip, and got it backdated. Any recommendations for a reasonably priced option for her for her minecraft? Should I go the tablet\notebook type route or can they not handle minecraft? Bit confused by these new notebooks esp touchscreen ones as new ones seem to have small amounts of ram yet are v. popular.
Thanks for advice\thoughts\feedback and let me know if I should start ,y own thread...I only jumped on this to see how he got on and then as I do nowadays with this illness, I then jumped from topic to topic that jumped into my head x sorry x
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Firt I would try to trickle charge the battery.
BEFORE YOU DO THIS:
Remove the SD CARD. I forgot to do this and snapped my card straight in half removing the back cover.
This started happening to my ME176 as well but of course not until after I retired it and gave it to my mom.
I would start by letting it sit on the charger for about 30 minutes (since we don't know the current charge state and if the overcharge block is functioning). This will give it a slight charge if dead.
Disconnect charger and remove the back cover and disconnect the battery (as posted earlier). Push and hold the power button a few times even though there is no power.
It may take a few tries of disconnecting and reconnecting the battery before it decides to power up, so keep the cover off while doing this.
Went to bed lat night with my OP3T connected to Dash charger... it was well over 90% charged, but I figured I'd let it top off and be full for the morning.
Disconnected this morning and noticed the screen didn't turn on (usually does when disconnecting, I think).
anyway, won't power on. and I've tried connected to the Dash wall charger, a car Dash charger, and regular USB charger .. each has its own cable... the LED never illuminates.
I've tried the 5 long presses of the power button.. also tried VOL down + power .. no response to either.
When I connect to a PC it is not recognized, does not offer to mount. No chimes from windows as you normally get when connecting a device.
The ONLY sign of life is when connected to a PC, if I do VOL *up* + power, I get a chime from Windows as if it maybe saw the device.. but it never shows up and then I get the eject chime.
I downloaded the "OP3T unbrick Tool"... it doesn't see the device, except briefly with the VOL UP + Power.
Personally guessing a battery gone south.. I normally get 2.5 days/charge, but in the last week had 2 days where it only lasted a day with nothing abnormal about my usage.
I have a remote debug session with OP later in the week (I'm guessing they'll have no better luck than I am), but anything else to try?
In the best of worlds, the battery died on you. In the worst of worlds, the power regulators on the mainboard broke.
How long have you had your 3t? This definitively sounds like a warrant case. If not, buy an original spare battery and change it yourself and hope for the best.
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In the best of worlds, the battery died on you. In the worst of worlds, the power regulators on the mainboard broke.
How long have you had your 3t? This definitively sounds like a warrant case. If not, buy an original spare battery and change it yourself and hope for the best.
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It's about 6 months old (got one pretty soon after the initial release).
Yes, I'm figuring we go thru the motions of letting OP tier2 tech support try and then hoping they will RMA from there.
Need advice from PPC-6700 folks on VZW XV6700. its currently wont take charge via the usb on bottom. i purchased new battery and most i get is phone turns on for few seconds and shuts off after it hit home page. and the light does not turn red when plugged in. it was working fine up until last week.
Maybe a bad usb port pcb. Could be a failed mobo.
Meh, bold type not needed...
Thanks for quick response. Im relatively new to diy with phones. is replacing the usb on this device something id be able to do myself? without possibly causing more damage.
Look at a tear down vid. It may not be the port pcb. You sure the battery is good and connected properly ie no bent connector pins?
No loose ribbon cable connectors?
historically that battery was never secure based off the design itslef. i may have bought dud battery... id need one more to test that theory. i have 8 different cords ive used and nada. its the old half octogon looking ones. they aren't prongs like the ones now.
I can open it up and send pic. Maybe you will see something I’m not..
You can see more than me. The port looks ok.
Finding out what common issues that device has may be useful.
For that device I'm not going to be much help other than the very basics.
Can you access the boot menu?
Use a known good power cable and charger; make sure they are good. Cables fail erratically and unpredictably.
Power it completely down and try letting it charge overnight.
ive been trying to sneak in but it shuts down if i try anything. plus i cant find one tear down video.. looks like i may be creating the first. ill sleep on it instead of jumping in half cocked.. ill give you update soon. thanks for your time.
tbh! i was gonna attempt to splice open old usb cord and bypass port using the wires directly to prongs? what you think
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tbh! i was gonna attempt to splice open old usb cord and bypass port using the wires directly to prongs? what you think
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Get a new cable preferably OEM.
You start splicing and get it wrong or if the cable is bad at a different point... you're trying to troubleshoot it, not start new trouble
Sounded better in my head lol. but the first cord that stopped working wa replaced and did great till now. ive rounded up 4 others from storage. non seem to catch. im trying not to order a 2nd new battery and cord. even plugged into pc or laptop it doesnt recognize anything.
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Need advice from PPC-6700 folks on VZW XV6700. its currently wont take charge via the usb on bottom. i purchased new battery and most i get is phone turns on for few seconds and shuts off after it hit home page. and the light does not turn red when plugged in. it was working fine up until last week.
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You have an HTC Apache?! Wow!
Welcome aboard!
HTC Apache: XV6700, PPC-6700
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Thanks for having me. I’ll check out link.
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Look at a tear down vid. It may not be the port pcb. You sure the battery is good and connected properly ie no bent connector pins?
No loose ribbon cable connectors?
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anyone there? i managed to get it to screen that shows " serial up top and v 1.00"... ive left it alone because its not turning off and im hoping its accepting a charge now .
Back in business, I ended up just splicing a old usb cord connected + and - right into prongs for n back of phone and sliding battery in to hold it n place. 3 hours I’m at 80% juice. I’ll have to upgrade etc