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Question for G1 users on AT&T

Hello all,
Long story short, T-mobile is canceling my service because I was roaming too much and costing them a fortune. I still want to use my G1. Therefore, my only option is AT&T, which provides great coverage where I am at.
My question is, what would be the best plan for me to go about switching over?
My options are going into the nearest AT&T store and have them tell me I need to get the $50 PDA data plan and some other nonsense that I could get away without having or I could just sign up for a new plan with a new phone (transferring my current number, of course) and get the $30 unlimited data and messaging option, then just switch the SIM into my G1.
Which option would be best and what have you used?
Thank you for any help!

Do you know, you would have no 3G?

I know exactly how it would work, but I am in no position to be buying a new phone to use features I do not really need. Honestly, I never used the 3G on TMO. I had it turned off to conserve battery life. EDGE is perfectly fine to me.

davidperlik said:
I know exactly how it would work, but I am in no position to be buying a new phone to use features I do not really need. Honestly, I never used the 3G on TMO. I had it turned off to conserve battery life. EDGE is perfectly fine to me.
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Be cautious of letting them cancel your service for roaming too much. There are some states where T-Mobile is not supposed to cancel your account for excessive roaming. I'd check on that first...

GenericNode said:
Be cautious of letting them cancel your service for roaming too much. There are some states where T-Mobile is not supposed to cancel your account for excessive roaming. I'd check on that first...
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Thanks for the info! Where would you suggest I look for these state laws. I am in Michigan if that helps. I've also read that you can use the [email protected] to route your calls through Wifi instead of EDGE to save on roaming time.

davidperlik said:
Thanks for the info! Where would you suggest I look for these state laws. I am in Michigan if that helps. I've also read that you can use the [email protected] to route your calls through Wifi instead of EDGE to save on roaming time.
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I really don't know where you can find it out :-(. I know this because it happened in my state. T-Mobile only has 'T-Mobile' towers running to our call center (so the VP's see only T-Mobile towers when they travel to it).
So they sent out a letter to EVERY T-Mobile customer in my state saying they were going to cancel their accounts for excessive roaming. Then the state stepped in and T-Mobile backed off.

GenericNode said:
I really don't know where you can find it out :-(. I know this because it happened in my state. T-Mobile only has 'T-Mobile' towers running to our call center (so the VP's see only T-Mobile towers when they travel to it).
So they sent out a letter to EVERY T-Mobile customer in my state saying they were going to cancel their accounts for excessive roaming. Then the state stepped in and T-Mobile backed off.
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Ah, I don't think that will apply in my situation. You see, I was a loyal TMO customer for two years and extended my contract to get the G1. Three months after I extended my contract (this past January) I moved up to my university, which has no TMO coverage. I had asked a TMO representative if the roaming would be an issue. He said it wouldn't be a problem. Apparently he was not in the know about his companies terms. This isn't a new issue and I was upset about them not telling me what they could do if I roamed too much or that they never warned me that I was roaming too much but I am over it now and am looking forward to using my G1 on AT&T.

davidperlik said:
Ah, I don't think that will apply in my situation. You see, I was a loyal TMO customer for two years and extended my contract to get the G1. Three months after I extended my contract (this past January) I moved up to my university, which has no TMO coverage. I had asked a TMO representative if the roaming would be an issue. He said it wouldn't be a problem. Apparently he was not in the know about his companies terms. This isn't a new issue and I was upset about them not telling me what they could do if I roamed too much or that they never warned me that I was roaming too much but I am over it now and am looking forward to using my G1 on AT&T.
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Ok. Well in that case, don't let them get away with hitting you with an early termination fee since a CSR told you that you would be fine.

GenericNode said:
Ok. Well in that case, don't let them get away with hitting you with an early termination fee since a CSR told you that you would be fine.
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No, they are waiving the ETF, which is awfully nice of them.

you should go to an at&t store or a place that sells at&t like radio shack and get a free phone like the LG Shine or the Samsung 767 (Propel) or anything that looks nice really just as a backup... and get how ever many minutes that you might need and the data/text bundle for $30 a month and sim unlock the g1. the only thing is in order to port your number you need to have the t-mobile account active and if your still in contract you will have to pay the ETF so you may or may not be able to keep you same number for free

I had AT&T before I got my G1, so it worked out for me. I bought my G1 on ebay for 300 dollars, I know kind of pricey but well worth it, and kept my same family plan, just added internet to my number.

N1 owners! How long have you gotten away with the $15 data plan?

I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?

I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.

jacka$$1 said:
I'm sure there's been plenty of posts regarding this (and I'll probably get some flack from moderators), but I thought I should revisit this issue and get everyone's thoughts before I jump on the bandwagon.
Anyone here got the dreaded text, automatically switched, or loss data services altogether simply because you were using the AT&T $15 MediaNet plan? Or better yet, the $10 family plan?
I'm on the $15 plan that was originally used by a lowly 3G featurephone, and have never upgraded to a branded smartphone with AT&T. Just wondering if there are folks with my same situation who've taken the plunge into Nexus One waters. So...are you still swimming?
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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.

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In short, your account needs to have smartphone exclusion on it to prevent your data plan from jumping to the $30 smartphone data plan. If it doesn't have this rare SOC code, it's difficult to get, and you won't be able to do much of anything to stop the change from happening.
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I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?

jacka$$1 said:
I'm aware of the smartphone exclusion status. But no one seems to have a clear answer as to "how" to get that status. Multiple stories abound: I've heard that you have to have had a smartphone with no data prior to Sept '09. I've also heard that folks who have a dumbphone (featurephone) with a 3G data plan ($15) are also excluded because they've never upgraded to a branded smartphone thru ATT. I'm on the latter situation. Does anyone here used to be on the $15 MediaNet+dumbphone combo and are now using a Nexus One?
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If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?

I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.

j.bruha said:
If it helps, I never purchased ANY phone through AT&T since I started service with them in mid-2008 since I always used unlocked phones and I still got hit with the text. The only reason I have the smartphone exclusion is because I called AT&T when they switched my data plan automatically and pitched a huge fit. I still can't get them to add it to the other line on my account.
So I guess try to talk to the customer "solutions" team about canceling your service and see if they'll add it for you?
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That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.

rome425 said:
I am using AT&T Nexus One from the day they were out (about 3 weeks now), I am still on $10 family MediaNet plan.
I have never bought smartphone from AT&T, perhaps that is the reason, or they haven't done their sweep yet.
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Excellent! Good luck on that. Please keep us posted if the status on your data ever changes. I'm gonna try using the N1 under the $15 MediaNet and see how much mileage I can get out of it.

Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.

Squeaky369 said:
Well; I have some bad news for you guys that think your getting lucky by tricking them.
At&t does not have this phone registered in their system. So if you call them and have them change the IMEI number to reflect this phone, it will come up as unknown. So the only option they have for a data plan is the $15 plan ($10 if you have a family plan).
The only reason why I know this: I came from an iPhone to this, so I had to call them and change the IMEI number.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as long as At&t does not register this in their system, we will get the cheaper plan.
And usually, unless they sell it, they won't register it. So we are good to go for the life of this phone.
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You should have a look at: AT&T automatically addining $30 Smartphone Data plan to the unbranded Nexus 1!?

jacka$$1 said:
That makes sense. But have you, or ever, upgraded your plan from a $15 to a $30 plan, and then back down to $15? (Or something to that effect.) I'm just wondering that since you never bought a device from them, a change in your data plan might also trigger the auto-switch? Just covering all bases how an auto-switch (or change in the smartphone exclusion status) can be triggered by either device upgrade or data plan upgrade thru AT&T.
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I'm glad you asked because I did buy two 3GS's from them and flipped them on eBay for a ridiculous profit. I had to call AT&T right after I bought them to have them remove the smartphone data plan since I wasn't using the iPhones anymore.
This could be part of the reason why my account triggered the change.

I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact

I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.

nephroid said:
I've had the $4.99 T-Zones plan since 2008 and it still is going strong. I've never bought a subsidized phone. Not one single complaint. Not on AT&T obviously. Oops.
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Do you get 3G with t-zones?

superninjaquan said:
I had the T-Mobile version on ATT shortly after the tmobile versions launch. I was using the 10$ medianet plan for about a week until I got the dreaded text. I thought it was a glitch so I went online and changed it back. A few minutes later, I got the text again. I sold my nexus and bought a milestone until the ATT version came out. I came to the conclusion that I would pay for the 30$ smartphone plan if I was using the ATT version because I would be getting 3G. I just got the ATT version in today and havnt switched plans yet. My buddy works for ATT and asked for my IMEI number to get credit for the switch from medianet to smartphone plan. He called me back saying that my new ATT nexus' IMEI number wasn't registering meaning I could use the media net plan. There have been some rumors that ATT put a cap on the speeds of the media net plan, so he asked me to run a speed test. My speeds show that I was getting normal 3g speeds for my area(786 dl). Ill post again if ATT gets ahold of this batch of IMEI numbers and auto adds the smartphone plan.
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Excellent! That definitely got me on the bandwagon. Just ordered the N1 and should be getting it Wednesday. I'll keep ya'll posted with the hopes that the IMEI batch for these new N1's will be kept hidden from ATT. Good luck to all!

GldRush98 said:
I have been on a grandfathered-in mediaworks package for ~8 years now ($20 for unlimited data, 1500sms and 200mms). AT&T has never once changed my plan on me and they never will. I'm out of contact
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Incredible! Grandfathered plans are always the best. How long have you had your N1?

I'm confused... Why were you guys giving att the imei #s? I bought my tmobile version unlocked through google and never had to let tmo know... I just dropped my SIM card in from my G1 and went on my way.

So how much data do you guys get for $15?

liam.lah said:
So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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UNLIMITED*
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*5 gigs

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So how much data do you guys get for $15?
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Tons. Lotsa lotsa tons.

Verizon and Motorola

So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.

Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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KayxGee1 said:
Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
leerpsp said:
Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol

Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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I think you have a couple of misconceptions going on there. You are confusing the brand of phone and the carrier. It's verizon billing you for data. Motorola has nothing to do with that. Buy an HTC or Samsung phone on Verizon and the price for data is the same as if you bought a Motorola phone. Buy a Motorola phone on a different carrier and the price for data on that phone will be the same as any other phone on that carrier.
Also how do you figure $500 per phone? Currently I'm one of the people grandfathered in on an unlimited data plan. That's $30 per month for unlimited data. So over the course of a 24 month contract, I'll actually pay $720 for data. People who are not grandfathered are still paying the same $720 over 24 months but are only getting 2 GB per month. Since 2 GB is plenty for me, it doesn't much matter.
The only difference with the new plans coming out this summer is that data is charged per account rather than per phone. If you add a tablet for example, you don't necessarily have to pay for any more data if both devices together stay within the cap. The thing is everyone is panicking and complaining before we even know what the caps will be and what the price will be for each tier.
For example if it were still $30 for two gigabytes I could actually save $30 per month. currently my wife has her $30 and I have my $30 for a total of $60 between us. But we each on our own have never exceeded 900 MB so we could switch to a pool of 2 GB total to share between us and end up paying half as much total. but we need to know the facts and figures to make those comparisons...
And right now, everyone complaining doesn't have any more idea than I do.

I'm just done with Verizon. I'm going with prepaid now. :|

Lol ratman you read my post wrong. Ill explain
Motorola sent a update locking an unlocked phone. Im assuming the trend dwill continue as they havent started unlocking phones they said they would. But instead doing the opposite and locking unlocked phones..
Seperately, verizon is getting rid of unlimited or 2gb data plan. You can keep it if you already have it but if you want to get a new phone (using it for your unlimited) you must buy it completely. Meaning around 500 dollars. Thats how much phones actually cost if you dont buy with a plan.
I believe you still can upgrade for free however on your plan

Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol[/QUOTED
Straight talk has good coverage there is one drawback after you go over 2 gb of net they slow your speed down but its still fast as hell even when they do my bro has it and uses it for the net with his laptop with his droid 3 and same speed as me if not faster and so its a good deal but to get good phones like the razer droid 3 and iphone you have to buy them out right and also somthing cool you can have any att phone and you do not have to get it unlocked they have a sim that works with it!
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Lol throttling is alot better than having a cap. Honestly that is not an issue to me. But thanks man your a god for that info, im going to look more into it and see if that is a good alternative. Sounds great so far :]
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Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
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I currently use straight talk service with my droid 3 and it is awesome. With the droid 3 you get the option to get an att or a tmobile based sim card and you get all their normal coverage.

Looks like straight talk just earned a new customer :] well once i get my job lmao

When the time comes, I'll probably pay full price for my next phone. I just won't purchase it from Verizon. I'll buy something that'll work on their network, but without the stupid locked bootloader or bloatware.

[Q] Moving to from Sweden to Santa Monica, CA, what carrier?

Hi!
First off, I didn't know where this belongs, so I'm sorry in advance if this is the wrong part of the forum.
My wife and I are moving to Santa Monica in August, and one of my biggest struggles right now is figuring out what American carrier to go with (yep, this is MY issue to handle, since I'm the phonegeek in the family). I'll start off with telling you what we're used to here in Sweden, and I hope you can help us pick a carrier and maybe even a plan that will fit our usage after the big move.
We always buy our phones unlocked from electronics stores, ALWAYS. I'm currently using the OnePlus One which should be working fine in the U.S., but I am planning on getting an LG G4 in a few months. Wifey's got an iPhone 5S (European version, guessing she'll have to replace it in order to use 4G/LTE IB the U.S?) I suppose it depends on what carrier we choose, but if signing up for a plan and getting the phone along with it is a better option than cashing it we're of course willing to do so (I have absolutely no idea how this stuff works in America, as you might've understood by now...).
We're currently using Telenor, on a shared family plan. The cost for this is roughly $85 a month. It includes a shared 24GB of data, unlimited calls and unlimited texts. To be honest, this is way beyond what we ever use, so cutting the data amount in half should be no problem at all. We don't text or call that much either, but it's nice to have the ability to do so if needed.
From what I understand, Verizon locks their phones down tight. Locked bootloaders, SIM locked and whatnot. If this really is the case Verizon really isn't a viable option considering the fact that I'm an avid flasher of roms. My wife doesn't really care much about that stuff though, she's all iPhone all the way.
Any advice, thought or opinion is welcome and highly appreciated!

UPS or Fedex
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Tmobile. I hate verizon for the same reasons. But, I've heard people in that part of Cali say it's got good service.
But, if no verizon. Then tmobile
And, yes verizon does that.

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Tmobile. I hate verizon for the same reasons. But, I've heard people in that part of Cali say it's got good service.
But, if no verizon. Then tmobile
And, yes verizon does that.
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Thanks for the reply! I've read good stuff about T-Mobile so I think that's what I'll go with. Apparently I'll get 4G with a European LG G4 with them aswell so that suits me great.

Dumping Verizon

I'll be coming off-contract with my current UDP Verizon plan in a few weeks, and wanted some advice/recommendations for alternatives. I would prefer to keep UDP, but as I understand it they are going to raise the price by $30 per line (we have 2) once I come off, which will make my plan cost just under $200. I am sure I can do MUCH better than that, so I wanted to explore some options. I'd like to keep our Droid Turbos, since they are great and I have no reason to "upgrade" to something else... so the carrier would need to support these phones, of course (that's why I'm posting here).
Our data usage seems to be around 5-6GB/month (mostly music streaming) so I want to stay at least with that level... it may be hard to get my wife to learn how to be data-aware going forward, after being so used to unlimited.
I was thinking of Straight Talk, for example... but I am interested in any other suggestions. Data speed isn't super-critical, but overall coverage is important... I travel a lot around New England, mostly in CT and rural areas therein (I work in sales)... but I have a work-phone too, so I can afford to drop some coverage if required.
Again, any tips, recommendations are appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Have you looked into Google FI, it's not unlimited but you only pay for the data used.

Wife is on straight talk, it works okay but not as good of LTE coverage.

Hmm... can I use ProjectFI with this phone? I didn't think I could... I thought it was GSM-only? Have you used it... how are you liking it?
Straight Talk - thanks for the quick review on that. Again, I suppose the lesser LTE coverage may be ok... how's the rest of their service? Good coverage for phone, otherwise? And 3G?

You can renew your contracts before the billing cycle end date by purchasing subsided phones and keep UDP at $29.99. Read up friend:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VerizonUDP/wiki/index

schwinn8 said:
Hmm... can I use ProjectFI with this phone? I didn't think I could... I thought it was GSM-only? Have you used it... how are you liking it?
Straight Talk - thanks for the quick review on that. Again, I suppose the lesser LTE coverage may be ok... how's the rest of their service? Good coverage for phone, otherwise? And 3G?
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Decent coverage it is not quite as good.

schwinn8 said:
Hmm... can I use ProjectFI with this phone? I didn't think I could... I thought it was GSM-only? Have you used it... how are you liking it?
Straight Talk - thanks for the quick review on that. Again, I suppose the lesser LTE coverage may be ok... how's the rest of their service? Good coverage for phone, otherwise? And 3G?
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Project Fi is nexus/pixel phones only.

TheSt33v said:
Project Fi is nexus/pixel phones only.
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Sorta...
Data-only SIMs may work with devices that aren’t on our list. Devices need to be unlocked and work with T-Mobile (GSM radio). You can order a data-only SIM and test it out. However, we may not be able to help activate or troubleshoot these other devices.
Note on phones:

bqw371 said:
You can renew your contracts before the billing cycle end date by purchasing subsided phones and keep UDP at $29.99. Read up friend:
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Thanks for the info. I did the BB method 2 years ago to get my Turbo, which is why I'm here now. I don't think I have any subsidized upgrades available... is there a place to check if I have them available? I could certainly do the BB method and sell the phone... I don't want to go through the hassle of changing numbers around.
Fact is, I may have to just give up the UDP. Honestly, our usage is <6GB/month, and the "Verizon Plan" has an 8 + 2GB/line plan right now (ie 12GB/mo) for about $30 less than my UDP... so I may just give it up after all. But I'll keep digging into my options.