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Maybe this was discussed in another thread but I couldn't find it.
I know Google is said to be selling these at cost (at least the 8GB one), but does it really cost $50 to go from 8GB to 16GB?
1) They're not selling at cost (estimated profits are $15-$47 for the 8GB version)
2) It's very unlikely that the additional 8GB costs $50. This is something they call, among devices with no SD card option, "screwing you over".
I read that it cost Google $8-12 more for the 16gb
at $250, it's still a great deal for the hardware.
You know the difference in PRICE for iPad 16n 32GB? Ever complained !!!
Stop trolling..
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xperiax10.awesome said:
You know the difference in PRICE for iPad 16n 32GB? Ever complained !!!
Stop trolling..
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$100 (aka the same $6.25/extra GB that we're facing now).
I hope you're not seriously suggesting that we look to Apple pricing standards as something to be proud of.
Thanks to thebobp, raafaell and adiliyo for your thoughts.
xperiax10.awesome & Thador: My question was an honest one and I was hoping for serious responses.
I came from the Evo 3D forum expecting better ...but the retards will always be around. Nobody is trolling its just a simple question, if you can't answer it and want to dish out another answer, do it elsewhere
Different sources are claiming that there is either a very small profit or small loss on the 8GB, it'll depend from region i suspect and what the pricings have taken into account. If you're talking simply in terms of BOM, the 8GB costs $184 to make and their selling it for $199....profit you'd think, however factor in the $25 app credit along with other marketing and advertising costs and it does add up. VAT in the UK makes a difference too along with some sort of import duty to all the countries it will be sold in. At the end of the day it's all mixed in the books so we can never know the full truth.
Here's your link
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/27820-nexus-7-costs-$184-to-build
It's stilla great deal, But I think it's kind of cheap not to include a SD card slot.
Here's a newer teardown cost appraisal: http://allthingsd.com/20120711/googles-nexus-7-costs-152-to-make-ihs-isuppli-teardown-finds/
Basically the 8GB version is the loss leader to get people interested and then they buy the 16GB version just in case. No different than any other retail operation.
Marketing is the study of taking the most money from the most people in the least amount of time.
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$100 (aka the same $6.25/extra GB that we're facing now).
I hope you're not seriously suggesting that we look to Apple pricing standards as something to be proud of.
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You're absolutely right. How DARE Google try to make any sort of profit at all, while still giving us by far the best 7" tablet we've seen yet?!
Plus, as has been reported, any actual hardware profit goes to ASUS not Google
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1) They're not selling at cost (estimated profits are $15-$47 for the 8GB version)
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It cost Google like $185 to make the 8gb model. With your logic that's 15 dollars profit per device (before shipping)... What about the price of packaging each device? What about the price of distribution to third party retailers? What about the price of marketing and advertisement? And that free $25 Play Store credit, and other freebies... it might be free to us but money for those items still comes from somewhere. They're selling these for a loss...
They are in business. Since when was it *NOT* okay to make a profit when you manufacture a product?
Whatever it costs for them to make, market, and ship internally, both products are well within a fair market value.
One other thing:
If the 16GB model were $208 ($8 being the presumed cost of the additional RAM), would anyone buy the 8GB model?
Not likely. And all the 8GB models produced would sit around in a warehouse collecting dust.
When I learned of the cost for the Nexus 7, I thought hell yeah, $200 for a nice tablet. I'm in. Then when I learned it was 8 gb with no sd card, I thought, "crap, I don't want to run out of room after I put a couple big games on it. Feel cramped and out-grown while the rest of the specs are still good." I have used an old, smaller sd card on a phone before and know the frustrations of running on limited space. Always having to scour the folders to delete anything extra. I didn't want that limitation, so I went with the 16gb even though a part of me was screaming, "Are you crazy! You are paying 25% more for the exact same thing with a little bit more space!"
Even now that I know we will be able to use a usb flash drive for expandable storage, I am happy I went with the 16gb just because I won't want a dongle on it all the time. In comparison to the 8gb version, the 16gb version is no where near as good of a price. That being said, it is still a good deal, if you compare it to everything else on the market except the 8gb nexus7. I think the extra $50 is going to be a big difference to me in not having to worry as much about space and I am glad I ponied up the extra.
Price seems ok, no complains..
All,
FYI, the build COST of iPads is just 320 dollars!!!
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First, for a genuine answer. No, it does not cost Asus $50 to add an extra 8 GB of flash storage.
$250 for the Nexus 7 is still a bargain either way.
For a more personal subjective answer. Asus/Google can charge what they want. You vote with your wallet, it's that simple.
So to all those people saying people are getting screwed over buying the 16 GB version.
Is Google forcing you to buy the 16 GB at gun point? No.
Will you die of hunger if you don't buy the 16 GB version? No.
Does the 8 GB version have a time bomb that explodes, punishing you for not buying the 16 GB version? No.
Will god kill a kitten for every person that pays for the 16 GB version? No.
Like I said above. You are given a choice. You vote with your wallet. It really is that simple.
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They are in business. Since when was it *NOT* okay to make a profit when you manufacture a product?
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I'm not sure why you quoted me. I made no comments suggesting it's not okay to make a profit!
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I agree with you. I think the tablets are a very good value. I was just asking a simple and honest question.
I do feel that google or Asus did kind of gouge my eyes out with the price jump by bit including the the microsd. Even with everyone saying that they have to make a profit, which I agree, I still think that it was unnecessary for the price of the 16gb model and still without a microSD slot.
I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?
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Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...
Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
You say less exclusive... I say more support.
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350
You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.
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How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.
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When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.
Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!
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Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.
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Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.
Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
It's not that this phone is cheap, it's that unlocked phones are CRAZY overpriced.
There is no catch, Google wants to get consumers away from carrier control and push their Android ecosystem. Win/win for them.
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Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
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Search Nexus 4 reviews on Google, I'm sure you bound to find many advantages and disadvantages. Biggest ones to concern me is the glass back breaks easily and that storage wise you only get 8GB or 16GB. Not having LTE isn't a problem since I'm with T-Mobile.
They are probably only barely breaking even on the costs; phones like the Galaxy S III and the iPhone 5 have a unit cost much lower than their retail cost. Gotta make money somehow. I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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Probably pushing stock android and android development. Google isn't looking to get a profit on the phone, but they are looking to get a profit on what you do with the phone (aka: search).
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They are probably only barely breaking even on the costs; phones like the Galaxy S III and the iPhone 5 have a unit cost much lower than their retail cost. Gotta make money somehow. I'm not sure what Google's motivations are with setting these prices, but they're not making a profit from them.
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That's very interesting Daniel. It kind of sounds like how Sony sold the ps3 at a much lower price than it should be sold. They were losing money to push blu ray so maybe google are selling a really "affordable" High end phone to push android that one step further than iPhone.
Its Google flexing a little, its all about market share so break even is fine. Im aliitle concerned about when motorola takes the lead, though that could be a year or two away. no complaints if they want to give me a break. Im on t-Mobile too so no big deal LTE.
The catch is they know you will buy apps. + you may be tempted to get one for other peeps in your life as they are cheap and its xmas time. These peeps, will also buy apps.
/shrug
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Search Nexus 4 reviews on Google, I'm sure you bound to find many advantages and disadvantages. Biggest ones to concern me is the glass back breaks easily and that storage wise you only get 8GB or 16GB. Not having LTE isn't a problem since I'm with T-Mobile.
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I suppose the glass breaking could be an issue but then again I treat my phones like the crown jewels so I doubt that would be a huge problem for me. Also being in the UK on three I get decent HSPA speeds so the lack of LTE or 4G is absolutely irrelevant to me and most of the UK. The faster phones processors are getting the faster web browsing is with 3g anyway so I'm not fussed for 4g at the moment.
Right, they want Android everywhere and this is how Android wins eventually..not to mention it costs them squat per phone to build..
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So it's a marketing ploy to really push android. I'm fine with that As long as they weren't sacrificing any quality with the phone. This is surely exciting. I hope I can get one as soon as possible. I'm a huge phone geek (well that's obvious being on XDA as we all are) and I've never seen anyone with a Nexus device in the UK so I think it will be great If people in the UK will start getting them. I've always been with sense so vanilla will be a completely new experience.
I came here immediately looking for posts that said that no LTE is the catch, didn't see any to my surprise
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I came here immediately looking for posts that said that no LTE is the catch, didn't see any to my surprise
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haha I'm so glad no one has said it. It barely matters to anyone outside of the US!
As great as this price is to get Android out into the world more, I just have a feeling that since the phone is only being sold on the play store for the (majority of people to buy) I am concerned that if they dont go all out on commercials (which they should of started with already IMO) then I have a feeling that they wont get many new people buying the phone.
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Can not for the life of me see how this phone is so cheap considering the specs and build quality. Anybody had any hands on experience with the phone find any flaws? If I get the money I'm almost definitely going to buy this. I just hope that the battery life and sound quality are decent as to me it just seems too cheap to be perfect. I also hate the snobbery from the iPhone users who have seen the price of this and think what a load of cheap garbage but I'd love for this to prove them wrong.
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Not sure there's a catch. I don't like the glass back. Seems like they're copying Apple. I also don't ;like how you can't remove the battery. They wear out after a while.
I hope hope hope that they improved the camera. When the Galaxy Nexus was released, it was promised that it took pictures instantly. This was an improvement from my older Androids which used to take 2-5 seconds to focus and snap a pic. However, the camera on the Galaxy Nexus was weak as hell. Grainy and blurry in low light and only 5 MP..
Most likely, Google is making a limited profit with this device because they just want to get it out there.
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The catch is they know you will buy apps. + you may be tempted to get one for other peeps in your life as they are cheap and its xmas time. These peeps, will also buy apps.
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That's what I'm thinking. I'm sure the bulk of their profit from Android is based on the play store. Lower the cost of phones, get them in to the hands of more people, and in turn the people buy more apps from the play store. There's their profit:thumbup:
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Cost for making an iPhone 5 is $389.XX. Read it in the Time magazine. This may answer the question.
Its not marketing.. its just how they do money. Google is the second most profitable company in the world. And now of that was accomplished by selling hardware. Selling hardware at cost that boosts their income method is the best way to stay in "what they best". Plus it has some perks like happy customers, injected competition and market confidence.
On the other side of the medal, you have apple, the most profitable company in the world, that makes their money on high margin.
Both ways are legit ways to make money, but me, personally I prefer the half priced one
No, catch. Like what others have posted Google wants people using their ecosystem.
I think its great they are pricing it at cost probably, I'm sure there is profit but very little. I'm tiredof carriers and manufacturers raping customers with their crazy markups.
I've never had my phone battery go bad on me. The battery is easily accessible via 2 screws on bottom of phone, no biggie.
LTE is not really a deal breaker for me, I'm in las Vegas and get 14mbps on T-mobiles faux G.
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This thread will be a general area for Pakistani owners and potential owners to hang out, ask questions, get advice and get help quickly.
Although it will not officially launched in Pakistan but it is available with HSN right now.
Hi. thanks for making the thread
Where is it available on HSN i can't see...
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Hi. thanks for making the thread
Where is it available on HSN i can't see...
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http://homeshopping.pk/products/LG-Google-Nexus-4-in-Pakistan.html
Stupidly expensive at the moment.
God.!
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing...!
I hope it gets further easily available on other online stores like HSN jaldiiii...!!
Wait for price drop
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That is seriously expensive
Come on, $299 is roughly 30K PKR...
Any alternatives?
Your best shot is if you have someone coming to Pakistan from the US. I ordered mine earlier Nexus 4 is 8k more expensive in the UK.
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That is seriously expensive
Come on, $299 is roughly 30K PKR...
Any alternatives?
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importing or waiting.
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Your best shot is if you have someone coming to Pakistan from the US. I ordered mine earlier Nexus 4 is 8k more expensive in the UK.
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Just pray you don't get a rattling one. The initial batch has some problems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988292
The US and Canadian prices are at par, then come the Australian prices, then the European prices.
I think Homeshopping's getting it from LG directly since LG's supplying the phones at a ludicrous price worldwide... which explains why many third party chains in Europe aren't carrying the phone.
Order it from the US if you want. I would...but I already got myself upgraded to 4.2 on the GNexus. Its the hardware and price which is the most appealing factor for me, then the camera.
(I wonder how good the camera is in the released version.)
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I am really looking forward to Nexus 4 and just cant wait to get my hands on it. I will keep following this thread inshallah.
any one here have some links in USA or dubai, through only personal trips we can have nexus 4. not locally
Locally it's price will be around 44 to 48. that is just Stupid.
299$ roughly comes out to be 28.7k right now..
HSN is selling 8GB @ 49k which is an insane Price.After 13th Nov,HSN were busy taking pre orders.But i dont know who would pre order 8GB version at that ridiculous price.Wait for a while,this price would go down very soon inshaAllah
Still hoping for a price drop.
.:finger's crossed:.
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Still hoping for a price drop.
.:finger's crossed:.
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so its 50k for 16gb model from shophive now! I'm a new user and this forum isnt letting me post a link here, just goto shophive dot com and the home page lists Nexus 4 16gb.
waiting for it to hit 45k and its all mine!
So i think its imp to post in this thread i just noticed as i myself am also waiting for a nexus 4 like the rest of you... sold my s2 already and am now living on a sony eric w610i which is like 7 years old... should have taken a friends advice who told me... "you dont let one girlfriend go until you have the next one IN hand"... oh well... was trying to get it from the US but thanks to the ridiculous backorders of 6 weeks its no longer possible... i was thinking there was a logical explanation for google effing up SO badly but unfortunately there is none... the amount of customers they have and will keep losing due to missing out on this christmas season is quite a horrendous publicity stunt... I for one am also having second thoughts on is it really worth he wait...?
Anywhoo... till then... guess we have xda and can get more info on the problems surrounding this phone before actually getting it... the glass back shattering is something clumsy ppl must worry about and soon enough china will be churning out bumpers at the rate the subcontinents population grows... should be a big problem...
Now... the main issue i wanted to address here is the fact how people keep going on and on about how "aawwwww commoonnnn HSN, the Nexus is ONLY for $299.... why you sell so expensivveeeee " .... to which on every comment its very convenient for them to respond by saying... "the phone isnt available anywhere for that price... please tell me where you can find it at that price..." to which every person is like UHHHHHHHHHHHhhhHHHHHhhhhh
The sad part is HSN is right... the phone ISNT available anywhere for that price... because you have to add shipping AND tax, which brings the total to around $330 for the 8gb, and $380 for the 16gb... which comes to less than but approx 33k for the 8gb and 38k for the 16gb... which means... paying 49k for a 8gb means your being over charged by more than 15k on the phone... which is RIDICULOUS... thats $150 more...
I much rather get the 16gb from shophive for 50k as someone pointed out but wait... did you notice it says "ON ORDER"... what that means is... when you order... you probably wont get it when your expecting it in 2-3 days...
Now what i dont like is when people try to run a business but conveniently DENY they keep themselves a profit margin... For Example, If you notice on HSNs wall... every post is Oh its costing us that much hence the price high, oh international market is high not our fault... Oh google has limited 1 phone per person hence cant order from there... seriously...?? unfortunately most the ppl who post arnt educated enough in the matter and when you try to educate them (like myself who had posted a similar post on their wall which OBVIOUSLY they didnt approve)...
Having said that... when the nexus sales opened they were limited to 5 phones per head... not 1... not 2... 5 per head... only AFTER the sales reopened YESTERDAY was a limit of 2 phones per head ensued. But if you will notice Looonnnngggg before yesterday there have been chants of OH NO... ONLY ONE or TWO Phones per head like Apple limits, hence we have no choice... and were like peterpan... who does all the hard work and gives you the phones for our cost price and not earn a penny out of it...
To that i say.... "N*GGA PLEASE"...
You want to do business... your absolutely entitled to it... but dont lie blatantly to everyones face... if you dont know... say you dont know... but dont pull theories out your A$$ and expect noone to call you out. Im honestly willing to pay more than the price of the phone to get my hands on it... but NOT 15k more... screw that... i much rather wait for it because as most of you know... LG resale in pakistan is as bad as motorolas ... even tho they have amazing hardware and high quality phones, when a layman here sees the logo L-G... it leaves a taste of Atif Aslam trying to sell KG-125's to the pakistani population...
Im keeping my eye out for anyway to get the nexus from abroad for a more reasonable price and will be happy to do the same for someone who wants one... in the mean time i request if anyone can order me a phone as well ill be more than grateful...
Hope those of you who took the time to read this post will try to help spread awareness about dealings in our "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC"... and help your fellow Brother and sister out in getting what they want/need....
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Im keeping my eye out for anyway to get the nexus from abroad for a more reasonable price and will be happy to do the same for someone who wants one... in the mean time i request if anyone can order me a phone as well ill be more than grateful...
Hope those of you who took the time to read this post will try to help spread awareness about dealings in our "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC"... and help your fellow Brother and sister out in getting what they want/need....
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Get one for me!! :laugh:
Currently i'm trying to buy through a friend in Canada.
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so its 50k for 16gb model from shophive now! I'm a new user and this forum isnt letting me post a link here, just goto shophive dot com and the home page lists Nexus 4 16gb.
waiting for it to hit 45k and its all mine!
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50k for 16GB right now is impossible..
HSN is selling 8GB @49k
A day or 2 ago i saw a Pakistani site selling 16GB @ 58k..
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Now... the main issue i wanted to address here is the fact how people keep going on and on about how "aawwwww commoonnnn HSN, the Nexus is ONLY for $299.... why you sell so expensivveeeee " .... to which on every comment its very convenient for them to respond by saying... "the phone isnt available anywhere for that price... please tell me where you can find it at that price..." to which every person is like UHHHHHHHHHHHhhhHHHHHhhhhh
The sad part is HSN is right... the phone ISNT available anywhere for that price... because you have to add shipping AND tax, which brings the total to around $330 for the 8gb, and $380 for the 16gb... which comes to less than but approx 33k for the 8gb and 38k for the 16gb... which means... paying 49k for a 8gb means your being over charged by more than 15k on the phone... which is RIDICULOUS... thats $150 more...
I much rather get the 16gb from shophive for 50k as someone pointed out but wait... did you notice it says "ON ORDER"... what that means is... when you order... you probably wont get it when your expecting it in 2-3 days...
Now what i dont like is when people try to run a business but conveniently DENY they keep themselves a profit margin... For Example, If you notice on HSNs wall... every post is Oh its costing us that much hence the price high, oh international market is high not our fault... Oh google has limited 1 phone per person hence cant order from there... seriously...?? unfortunately most the ppl who post arnt educated enough in the matter and when you try to educate them (like myself who had posted a similar post on their wall which OBVIOUSLY they didnt approve)...
Having said that... when the nexus sales opened they were limited to 5 phones per head... not 1... not 2... 5 per head... only AFTER the sales reopened YESTERDAY was a limit of 2 phones per head ensued. But if you will notice Looonnnngggg before yesterday there have been chants of OH NO... ONLY ONE or TWO Phones per head like Apple limits, hence we have no choice... and were like peterpan... who does all the hard work and gives you the phones for our cost price and not earn a penny out of it...
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You know there are several posts of mine there at HSN 'LG Nexus 4' thread..
What surprised me was that HSN already knew that Google has restricted the devices as only 1 device/person.It was way before the official launch when HSN Mods were spreading such lies.Same answer to each & every query.I asked them to publish my comment & i'll give you the proof that people got more than one device.They did publish my post but in response the mod posted a big reply & also showed me a link of gsmarena..that post stated that google had restricted 2 devices/person.
& about our Pak people..around 99.99% people asked the same question ie 'it is available @ 299$'
They forgot that one has to pay Shipping cost+taxes.If people know the official price,then why bother coming to HSN site & bashing them.They should go & get it @ 299$ instead.Only then people would come to know the actual price.I know HSN price right now is very high,so as every dealer out there..All are like that.Outside google play,its price is more or less the same everywhere.Look at T-mobile selling it at 499$.
But people just don't get it.This device is very popular at present time.Its demand is so high.everyone wants it.Once this hype dies,price would go down big time.
PS->$380 for the 16gb version..that's the total cost if someone receives it in USA..When you bring it to Pakistan,you have to pay tax & also shipping charges from USA to Pakistan.
If you add them all,still HSN & all other are selling it at very high price because of demand
so i just spoke to shophive... and they actually are giving the 16gb for 50k... saying they ordered a few already and got them in 3 days... next order being sent out for another 4 phones... thats a amazing price... i asked him for discounts and he said just wait and its just high due to short supply but soon when it comes in the prices will drop here because its a LG and there is no such market here for it (as i already mentioned in my previous post), so those of you who are willing to spend 50k on the nexus, shophive seems tto be the real deal... MUCH bettter than HSN...
So i'm thinking about selling my nexus 6 on a facebook community buy/sell.
I usually give my devices to my family, but its not needed this time so i'm after some opinions on how much i should be asking for.
The phone is 3-4 months old, i lost the reciept recently but its around somewhere... 32GB, bought outright, so unlocked from any network, in perfect working condition. etc, there's just like maybe, 5 to 6 tiny little dints in the screen from keys in pocket :/. You literally cannot feel them, nor see them when the screen is on and takes certain angles to see them when screen is off (thats the only thing wrong with the phone, which i plan on telling on my post). I paid $876 AUD, do you think i could ask for $400-$500?
Opinions? If you were going to resell, what circumstances would you lower the price for & if you were i, how much would you ask for?
amazon is selling the n6 brand new at 399 for the 32gb version, so your $400-500 would be considered a joke, especially a device with a little bit of damage.
@rhystagram,
Your best bet is to go to Swappa.com and look at recent sold prices.
cam30era said:
@rhystagram,
Your best bet is to go to Swappa.com and look at recent sold prices.
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good though
please note its in AUD and i'm in Australia, most retail stores still sell at same price as my purchase, as does google store.
rhystagram said:
So i'm thinking about selling my nexus 6 on a facebook community buy/sell.
I usually give my devices to my family, but its not needed this time so i'm after some opinions on how much i should be asking for.
The phone is 3-4 months old, i lost the reciept recently but its around somewhere... 32GB, bought outright, so unlocked from any network, in perfect working condition. etc, there's just like maybe, 5 to 6 tiny little dints in the screen from keys in pocket :/. You literally cannot feel them, nor see them when the screen is on and takes certain angles to see them when screen is off (thats the only thing wrong with the phone, which i plan on telling on my post). I paid $876 AUD, do you think i could ask for $400-$500?
Opinions? If you were going to resell, what circumstances would you lower the price for & if you were i, how much would you ask for?
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For safety's sake, have a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104504
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points completely missed.
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please note its in AUD and i'm in Australia, most retail stores still sell at same price as my purchase, as does google store.
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But Amazon is still selling it for much cheaper brand new. Most prospective buyers will look on Amazon first to see what prices are for both new and used.
What local retailers sell them for brand new means nothing when it can easily be attained somewhere else for a cheaper price.
I normally give people hell on those Facebook groups for asking entirely too much for a phone or tablet. Especially if it is used with even the slightest damage.
For instance, a woman was trying to sell a Droid Maxx for almost $400 USD claiming it was new and never pulled from the box, but her pictures clearly showed otherwise because of the damage on the phone and the fact that it didn't have any of the factory protective film on it anymore. The device in mint condition used only goes for about $150.
Basically, it's better to be fair instead of thinking you can charge top dollar for it. Much less troubles in the long run.
Good luck.
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points completely missed.
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I'm sorry, but how is pointing out the proper process for preparing a Nexus 6 for resale completely missing the point? I'm trying to help you avoid future headaches. ???
If you're looking for resale prices, check completed listings on swappa or eBay.
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But Amazon is still selling it for much cheaper brand new. Most prospective buyers will look on Amazon first to see what prices are for both new and used.
What local retailers sell them for brand new means nothing when it can easily be attained somewhere else for a cheaper price.
I normally give people hell on those Facebook groups for asking entirely too much for a phone or tablet. Especially if it is used with even the slightest damage.
For instance, a woman was trying to sell a Droid Maxx for almost $400 USD claiming it was new and never pulled from the box, but her pictures clearly showed otherwise because of the damage on the phone and the fact that it didn't have any of the factory protective film on it anymore. The device in mint condition used only goes for about $150.
Basically, it's better to be fair instead of thinking you can charge top dollar for it. Much less troubles in the long run.
Good luck.
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I agree with checking eBay or local buy/sell/trade sites for prices to get a feel for how much it will cost.
Note this, however: Amazon Australia does not sell the Nexus 6 that I can find. It is true that there was a Prime Day deal today in the states for it (pretty sure it's over now), but Prime Day is only for the US site, not for the international versions.
Plus $500 AUD is $368 ish USD.
Mate. Put it on Gumtree. You could likely get around 400 to 450 bucks for it if it is indeed in the condition you say.