guys I have problem with my phone's screen, the upper part of the screen during portrait mode is no longer responding to the right spot. but the rest its ok...anyhelp?do I have to change my LCD? I even had it hard reset which gives me a bigger problem, a Align Screen menu pops out and I could not align it....anyhelp????
looks like you have defective digitizer screen, try to take apart and reseat the LCD connector. maybe it'll help.
last resort, change the digitizer screen.
yes, I think that's the same problem that i've been facing since last year :-|
any I dea how could that be happens ?
or is there any way to do it without bricking the device ?
welll....
I am looking at the possibility that it needs to be stripped down and cleaned! dirt could be causing the issue around the edges by applying pressure to the digitizer!!
does anyone know of any toolkits you can get to take this thing apart I am not too confident with my kitchen knife and chisel....
Probably on this forum somewhere...
(edit : I just did a bit of pushing down and hooking a piece of card around the edges of the screen and it seems to be working fine however this can be temporary...)
There are guides in this forum to taking an Alpine to pieces completely: I had to change my screen recently and it can easily be done before the backup battery has run out of juice.
If the digitiser part is behaving erratically you cna just purchase a new digitiser for about £4.95 off ebay, rather than fork out around 30-40 for a new screen.
TOols you'll need are small screwdrivers and a small set of torx screwdrivers.. again a search will tell you what size (I have a pack of t5 6 and 7 and cant remember which it is - it's the same pack you buy for disassembling mobiles)
Joe
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
hurdleman said:
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
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install hardspl (same procedure as flashing) and then install rom of your choise if it dosn't work have you done any of the following
dropped it in water
gone in the washing machine
etc.... stuff like that
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
papo said:
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
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hehehe funny expression 'changing them like [email protected]
what do you only change your underwear 2 a year
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
hurdleman said:
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
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thats good you got it working
hope the problem doesn't happen again
if we assume the problem is harware, it would most likely by at one of two spots.
place, where the ribbon cable is soldered to lcd
or place where two piecies of digitiizer are connnected to each other.
might help if you check on the ribbon and glue a plastic tape all around the edge of digitizer, making it press little bit more on it
well, if that's hw probllem. but first you shoud try different rom. you can reflash without digitizer working. and check for pocket controller or similar if you want you can control pda from pc with it. there are two free and Pocket contr is trial.
if you just want to bypass the "tap here to use your device" message on the first boot up, search for "welcome.not".
create a blank file named "welcome.not" and place it in the root of your sd card and then power on the device for first boot up.
make sure it is a blank file. make sure it is named EXACTLY "welcome.not". if you are doing this with your windows pc, make sure you have turned off "hide file extensions of known file types". otherwise, the file might actually be named "welcome.not.txt" but might show as "welcome.not" on your pc.
search about it for more information.
hi, have tried differnt rom, but problem still persist. screen is not working, but sometimes it starts working very well. but most of the time it not respond. when backlight goes out and touch screen it starts to light but can't touch any options on. So what can be the problem, only digitezer or whole screen?
it was more probable it would be hw. but we need to eliminate all possibilities and reflash was easiest.
Still there is more things which could be the problem.
And there is no way to tell for sure what is it.
Did you say the pda is new? or digitizer?
And then you said when backlight goes off, digitizer will stop working, but still reacting on touch (to light the backlight) Is this right?
When will it stop / start working? Does it change if you press on body - case?
Does it change if you slide keyboard out or in?
There would be a short test each time pda/screen is powered, if digitizer fails in this test, it would be ignored till next test pass. Could this be your case?
digitizer could be broken on corner, or has bad contact inside
- You can test it, if you'll solder test wires on it and measure resistance, which should be around 500 ohms without touch and going down on each touch, can't go higher! test for both H & V
but the same reaction could be if ribbon cable connecting two parts of kaiser is broken (or connector on mobo side)
but if it's new it shouldn't.
and at last there could be problem on mobo. inside the controller chip or on it's connection, soldering. But not very probable.
It definitely looks like bad connection somewhere. You need to find out where, so you'll not buy digitizer if it's good or ribbon cable.
Put plastic tape around digitizer inside, as I wrote before, inspect ribbon cable and digitizer and it's connections. Try to locate event when it goes wrong.
If you'll not open it and check on these things, then maybe get a new part which will show bad, then I don't see how more we could help you.
You can use it without touch screen somehow or get a new phone.
Digitizer is US$8 with shipping to Lithuania. That's really cheap, even for us from central european countries.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-P4450-Ka...m&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5192adf317#shId
and ribbon cable have fair price too,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Flex-Cable-R...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cadad06a3
papo very informative
All i want to add is that it's easier to replace the whole screen with a digitizer already on as the digitizer is very hard to remove since glued to the glass more than likely will get wrecked and not able to replace new, whereas full kit wont cost a lot more and will be less stress just 4 screws on the back plate of Tilt "where sim door is".
Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
hurdleman said:
Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
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mm, I know some pretty good spells, but you need a magic wand to make them work. If you don't have any you need to:
tape the screen as I wrote before (half millimeter tape),
if no help, hardwire analog multimeter on digitizer and test it properly (while pda off and open) as I wrote before
tape bended paper across connector on mobo.
OR just get a new digitizer straight away. it's $8 and pretty good chance that it's the issue. it's maybe 50% chance but what I mean is:
You have $200 phone (now on market) let's assign it 200 points
It's working on 20% with digitizer broken, now you have 40 points
digitizer 8 points to add. With 50% chance to fix = 16 points to add
result: by adding 16 points you gain 160 (200 - 40) that's 10x gain = good risk
WTF with my screen? post photos. on the first my screen, on the second lcd screens which are beiing sold on ebay.
I decided to buy new digitizer, but when looked at my screen, it realized have completely different layout where digitizer is connecting to screen. Am i right? Is the digitizers which are sold on ebay will suit my screen?
that's fine. they all work. They are not oem but works well. Maybe not so scratch resistive.
You may get the digitizer solo, but they will not include a special double side tape which goes around and is holding it together. You can make that tape, but it's pain as stylez said. A lot of cleaning the used old one, then cutting small strips of ds-tape. and you need to put a paper or something in between two layers of tape as you need a little space in between. And then soldering that ribbon. Better just get whole assembly.
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I see you tried that tape, before you buy it, try the last thing. The place where digitizer is soldered to lcd modul.
On that piece you sent photo of, you need to open back cover.
check the picture:
1. peel off antistatic tape from connector, from up -> down
2. take cover off
3. there will be attachment of digitizer behind the cover, like on your second picture.
Check for good connection
AND
check if soldered pins could not be touching the back cover you took off
( i had this problem once)
put electric tape accross it a give it a try - that will isolate it from back cover & make a little pressure if bad connection
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Hi there. A friend of mine gave me a G1 with a cracked digitizer. I ordered a new digitizer from ebay, and after it arrived today, I installed it. I then powered on the phone and found that the lower ~8mm (in vertical orientation) of the digitizer is unresponsive.
After futzing with it in the maps app, I noticed that if you start your gesture where the digitizer works and drag across the trouble area, the map shutters and shakes back and forth as though it were getting input from all directions.
Has anyone encountered this? Any possible solutions? I'm stuck
Ugh, I thought the digitizer wasn't seated properly, so I dis and re assembled and the issue persists. Is this a defective digitizer?
It's really distressing not being able to use that lower portion. Any help would be appreciated greatly.
Hehehe. User Error
For anyone facing this in the future, the ribbon connector at the top of my digitizer was bent slightly, as it could not sit flat because of two of the little rubber bits near the top. Remove rubber bits (like the manual tells you too ) and refit the digitizer, then refit the rubber bits and continue reassembly. Fixed
I feel so stupid.
My Droid's touch screen isn't working in the center vertically all the way down. I can still use the 'edges' of the screen. I need to use the middle of the screen for a few things (not transfering stuff over). Is there any way I can 'project' my Droids screen to my computer and click/touch in it to use it?
Thanks in advance for all help. It's appreciated
~mfungah
Edit: This is the original Motorola Droid.
I have the same problem on the right side of my milestone :S
I had the same problem, but from the back arrow upwards, specially when the phone got hot. As my phone was still on the warranty period, I flashed it back to stock and updated it to the official 2.2., took it to an Orange shop and got it back after almost a month: they basically changed the whole top part of the phone (I got a brand new screen )
Repair problem
I had a same failure. The touch panel was bad. I ordered one from eBay. It also came as well put it. It works well. Only so much wrong with me that for some reason the phone stacked in landscape mode, I can't change to portrait mode. What is wrong? I put together something wrong? I do not think so. Everything else goes. (or so it seems)
This has to do with the digitizer (the glass you touch over the top of the LCD you see) being defective or unsealed. This is due to environmental moisture finding its way into the phone and f**king with the electrictal signals sent by touching the screen. There is a 'phantom touch' issue that seems to happen before or during the vertical unresponsiveness, and that can usually be temporarily remedied by firmly pushing your screen downwards (your phone may restart) and taking a blowdryer to your phone until it's just hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold (and no longer take it into the bathroom while you shower). One way or another, you're going to have to replace your digitizer eventually.
Sent from my Droid using XDA App
I had the same problem months ago but it's now fixed.
STEPS:
1. Digitizer I bought from this guy:
http://cgi.ebay.ph/New-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Motorola-Milestone-A853-/270780531 891?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3f0bc704b3#ht_2811wt_850
2. Dissasembly Videos (I advice you to watch them repeatedly before dissasembly):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7ETMfgq2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE81IaQHEHc
3. Phillips screw driver( for dealing with hard screws around the screen): Because I don't want you to use the low quality screw driver supplied with the digitizer.
4. Double sided tape: I got mine from a hardware shop for only P19. Buy a the more expensive tape(P100+) but look for a very thin one! You will use the cheap weak tape to stick some internal parts and use the Hard tape to stick the external casing. EDIT: I just used the cheap one for everything and it's strong enough.
5. PATIENCE: Don't be in a hurry. I even paused from time to time to get a better idea about what to do next. Get the feel of being a perfectionist (that same additude when I applied a screen protector )
That's the guide from me who haven't dissasembled a phone in my entire life but my milestone. So if something bad and technical that happens along the way then my knowledge can't help.. sorry.
Good luck bro!!
Hi all! My friend was drunk, dropped her phone on the ground, broke the digitizer glass. I bought a new digitizer from eBay, and after 1-2 hours I've managed to exchange the digitizer, boot up the phone, everything works - except that the very left pixel row from bottom to the top recognizes touches as if they were touched on the right side.
For example, when I press A (at the very left side of the A key on the keyboard) it recognize it just if I touched the screen on the right side instead.
When running tests and pressing on the very left pixel row I get straight horizontal lines over the screen, one line for each touch. That doesn't happen if I tap on the right side or if I press 1 millimeter from the very left row.
So, my question is: Is there any script, setting, hidden hardcore setting or something like that, that will disable the very left row of my digitizer? I think the digitizer is malfunctioning, or is there any calibration tool I could run?
Hi,
I suggest you get a replacement for the faulty digitizer you got. Just complaint to the seller to ship you another one. It is better that way.
Ah, okey. Thanks Will have to buy another front frame thou