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My question is if you could somehow use the trackball as a mouse in the Browser (You know, controlling a cursor on the screen) instead of jumping between the links..?
I've seen that Opera Mini is implementing it, so it has to be possible. And now that Froyo is out with Flash, it's hard for even a guy like me - who's pretty accurate otherwise when it comes to touchscreen - to hit the "Play", "Pause" and so on..
Btw Opera Mini doesn't have flash support yet, I think, otherwise this wouldn't be a problem
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Anders
I'm for this too. My crappy blackberry has an optical sensor which is used for a mouse Cursor in the browser. Honestly it works pretty well. I was flying through several webpages.
I know how the webpages can be difficult to navigate via small buttons and text, so it would at least provide us with an alternate method of navigating.
The Cursor on the Blackberry, is usually always hidden until moved, which is then displayed for a period until hiding again. It is also restricted to the viewable page, so you aren't accidentally all over the place.
I also thought I read about some source files found for a cursor in the android source files... like they aren't being used or something.
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Any chance there's a way to run Apache Home Server on my CDMA Hero?
Not looking for anyone who wants to convince me not to, I would just like to know if it's possible/doable.
Also, rather than making a seperate topic,
Is there any way we can:
1) Make a pointer for the track ball? Even, at the very least, while using the browser? I mean, really... why has this not been done yet?
2) Make it so our Home Screens turn when the Accelerometer changes to wide view. When sliding the keyboard out on the Droid and (I believe G1) the viewing automatically changes to landscape. I would love this feature as well. Is this doable, possible?
Thanks in advance, any advice given is appreciated!
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if you compile apache and all the libs and whatever it depends on for android then it should be possible. afaik there is a webserver for android out there, any reason why it needs to be apache? i think it is way to complex for android, a small lightweight webserver should be no problem in theory.
a trackball pointer might be possible, but not trivial. personally i don't see the reason, when using the trackball in the browser the selected link is highlighted green, what do you need a pointer for?
again, theoretically doable is also the rotated homescreen. you "just" need to redesign sense ui for landscape view. which might be really hard, as it is more than just a small app, and it is closed source (because it is part of htc's modifications, not part of the original android). tbh, don't wait for it to happen unless htc does it.
and last but not least: no offense, but give your posts a few hours, not everything is answered directly.
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if you compile apache and all the libs and whatever it depends on for android then it should be possible. afaik there is a webserver for android out there, any reason why it needs to be apache? i think it is way to complex for android, a small lightweight webserver should be no problem in theory.
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It doesn't need to be Apache, I'm just more familiar with that particular server software. If there are other options I would be glad to explore them. There are a few things I would like to test that I think would be kind of cool depending on the type of webserver I can run.
a trackball pointer might be possible, but not trivial. personally i don't see the reason, when using the trackball in the browser the selected link is highlighted green, what do you need a pointer for?
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A track ball would help out in a lot of ways. If open to the OS it would let me select programs, etc. while wearing gloves. It would open up the option of navigating without having to actually use the touch screen in case the scenario presents itself (again, gloves).
If just the browser it could help with games and those types of things. One important thing I have noticed is that I can't scroll within a frame on the browser. If I had a pointer I could, at the least, be able to click and drag the inner frame down without moving the main browsing page. This is somewhat vital to me as my College's Blackboard System is completely based on these types of web pages.
again, theoretically doable is also the rotated homescreen. you "just" need to redesign sense ui for landscape view. which might be really hard, as it is more than just a small app, and it is closed source (because it is part of htc's modifications, not part of the original android). tbh, don't wait for it to happen unless htc does it.
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That's a shame. The one problem I have is the amount of rotating I have to do. I would prefer to have the home screens locked in landscape rather than how they are now. It's just a little ridiculous to be watching a video on the phone and texting someone... but every time you want to reply/text you have to rotate the phone. It just seems tedious and I'm a man of efficiency if I can help it.
Maybe I can convince HTC.
and last but not least: no offense, but give your posts a few hours, not everything is answered directly.
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Sorry about that. XDA is very popular and I assumed my post had already become lossed in the fray. I posted on my lunch break and bumped one hour before having to go home so I had hoped I would get one response before then.
Thanks!
And anymore information would be appreciated. Not just from you but anyone else who has any information.
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2) Make it so our Home Screens turn when the Accelerometer changes to wide view. When sliding the keyboard out on the Droid and (I believe G1) the viewing automatically changes to landscape. I would love this feature as well. Is this doable, possible?
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I believe this is being done in the 2.1 Sense that HTC have promised us...sometime.
But imo its really ugly, nothing seems to be the right proportions (I'm a designer, so it kinda bugged me)
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A track ball would help out in a lot of ways. If open to the OS it would let me select programs, etc. while wearing gloves. It would open up the option of navigating without having to actually use the touch screen in case the scenario presents itself (again, gloves).
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that can be solved, press menu on homescreen, from there on you can use the trackball to navigate to all programs and then navigate through the menu.
i got myself some gloves from north face, which have a conducting fabric on the tips of thumb and index finger, so i can use the touchscreen natively with them. works great, actually got them before i had the hero because they are cool anyway
for the rest: i see your point now, but can't help. and tbh i don't think htc will take too much interest in your concerns... but try anyway, at least they should know about it!
For the web server you might want to try PAW server for Android. Although it's still in beta, it has a lot of built-in goodies like call log, send SMS and so on.
And you can serve your own static or dynamic (BeanShell) pages.
I went out and grabbed a Microsoft Bluetooth Portable 6000 keyboard, which is fantastic, by the way. I purchased it with the sole purpose of using it with CM7 w/Bluetooth and aDOSBox. Yeah, I want to kick it old school.
First, when in landscape mode, it will not reorient the arrow keys. Up arrow is left, Left arrow is down and so forth. This is simply the keyboard not being remapped when orientation changes, however... I'm not seeing a simple way to compensate for this.
Any thoughts?
Also, I'm tempted to see what a Bluetooth mouse does on this. I'm finding that the keystroke standards in Android don't follow normal "Windows and clones" methodology. So, having to reach up and touch the screen displaces you enough to make it inconvenient to perform certain tasks.
Is there a proper mouse implementation either in Android or in the CM7 stack? If not, are they any APKs that would satisfy this?
I'm looking for a laptop replacement, if you get the gist of what I'm trying to do here. I want to be able to type a book on a Nook.
Ironic, eh?
I don't think android has the ability to change the key mappings based on orientation.. you might be able to write an app that would do this though. The easiest way to do this is to have to key maps and have your app switch between them when it detects and orientation change. That might not be very efficient but it would be fairly simple to write, I think.
As for the mouse, I can't comment on using it with the nook but I have used a bt mouse with other android devices and it works fine. It would just as you would expect.
I bought also a chinese flexible BT keyboard but has some lag sometimes.
Remapping of keys would interest me also.
There is a fix for the rotation problem. Also for getting the "<" and ">" buttons working. Search isn't working for me and i don't feel like manually combing the forums for it, but it's in a thread labelled "chisleu's mod" or something like that.
edit, found the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008612
I'm going to try this out. This is likely exactly what I'm looking for. I don't expect to use the keyboard in portrait mode... I'll let everyone know how it works for me.
I will eventually be cool enough to write something like this myself, but until then... Script Kiddie, AWAY!
Is there a work around for this?
Basically, most web site that you visit to activate drop down boxes, the mouse hover function does this, as I am using my finger, I cant hover a mouse.... so the box snaps open and shut too quickly.
This is a problem in IE10 and affects the surface too I believe. Unfortunately we are stuck with IE10 on the device.... In IE9, it used to bring up a text box....
I spend quite a lot of time surfing, whilst travelling to work.... If this cant be fixed, soon, my phone will have to go back, as I believe it is not fit for purpose.
Other phones and in fact I-devices work around this. I think arrogantly, Micosoft believe that web developers should change their devices....:laugh::laugh:
On WP7 it usually works if I press and hold on the drop down, which opens the "copy url" dialog, then I tap elsewhere to get that to go away. The dropdown usually activates at this point.
You have to admit it is pretty dumb to have a dropdown menu be a link in of itself. There are a number of things besides touch devices that can't work with this correctly, and frankly it's just annoying because if the drop down delay is too long, I click it thinking it's like every desktop menu ever, and it brings me where I don't want to go. I don't know who thought it would be good to defy conventional wisdom and change up the way things work on the web vs in software.
Basically ever since I got my N5. The bigger screen kinda messes me up when I text or use the keyboard at all. Sometimes I use the swipe method to write on my phone, but other times I just do old fashioned button presses. When I text normally and I go to hit the space bar I will usually hit the period by accident. I'm pretty fast and don't usually look over my texts before I send them so my friends usually get text messages from me that look sometime like this;
"Hey.what are.you.doing today after work? You.wanna.go.grab.lunch at subway.or something?"
I never did it on my slide out phone obviously, or my gnex. This screen is just wide enough to make it happen for me. I'm still not used to having to reach so far right when trying to put in a period. Also I disable double tap space to enter punctuation. I find it annoying.
Not really a complaint or trying to vent at all. Just curious if I was the only one who did this as I have been called out on several occasions by multiple people as to why I replace my spaces with periods.
FYI I put this in general and not Q+A because it's not a serious issue that I need support for and I believe Q+A should be reserved for those kinds of posts.
I'm a big proponent of just using voice recognition for entering texts...sure, you can't always do it for discretionary purposes, not to mention sometimes it makes you look like a weirdo...
But now that the voice recognition is built into the phone it works so well.
Thanks for the reply. I only ever use that driving.
I leave it mounted on Google Now. That way I can say text so and so or navigate to, etc. When I'm not driving I usually just text normally or swipe.
I agree that voice to text works very well on this phone as well. Back on my Droid X it would never pick up my sentences correctly. I guess my bad luck with it previously helps account to why I don't use it much.
I also literally just noticed something about the keyboard I never realized. It's probably been around forever, though. When you want to input a number, you can long press the top row of keys to get that number or you can just press the symbols key and open the keypad with the numbers. That I knew. I just figured out you can press the symbols key and without picking up your finger, swipe somewhere on the keyboard and it switches to the symbols page. Release your finger on the desired key and bam. Number or symbol inputted and your back on the alphabet keys. This method is faster than the other two. Awesome.... And sorry for being so far behind.
I like the voice to text as well it works really good especially if you speak clearly. Sometime though, you don't have that option. That's where a different keyboard comes into play. There are soooo many in the play store. Have you tried one? Some are so customizable it's insane. Some to try out: perfect keyboard, smart keyboard, SwiftKey, swype, touchpal, thumb keyboard, and about 50 more
Nexus5
I.did.this.all.the.time.on.sub.5.inch.devices.
The screen on this device actually makes typing a fabulous experience. I rarely ever hit the "." unintentionally, and I rather enjoy typing again.
My last device had a 4.3 inch screen, and I would make this mistake all the time.
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I have to say, it got easier for me. On my n4 I had the exact same problem. But the n5 has the perfect screen size for writing in my opinion.
It only rarely happens that there is a "b" or "n" instead of space.
But I really had to get used to in the beginning.
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Basically ever since I got my N5. The bigger screen kinda messes me up when I text or use the keyboard at all. Sometimes I use the swipe method to write on my phone, but other times I just do old fashioned button presses. When I text normally and I go to hit the space bar I will usually hit the period by accident. I'm pretty fast and don't usually look over my texts before I send them so my friends usually get text messages from me that look sometime like this;
"Hey.what are.you.doing today after work? You.wanna.go.grab.lunch at subway.or something?"
I never did it on my slide out phone obviously, or my gnex. This screen is just wide enough to make it happen for me. I'm still not used to having to reach so far right when trying to put in a period. Also I disable double tap space to enter punctuation. I find it annoying.
Not really a complaint or trying to vent at all. Just curious if I was the only one who did this as I have been called out on several occasions by multiple people as to why I replace my spaces with periods.
FYI I put this in general and not Q+A because it's not a serious issue that I need support for and I believe Q+A should be reserved for those kinds of posts.
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attached is an image of SwiftKey's 'compact mode'. it can be pushed to either side of the device and makes it easier to type with one hand on the bigger devices
This happens to me as well. It never happened on my nexus 4.
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This is probably not the input you're looking for but it is a good habit to review what you typed before you send it. The recipients, and you, will appreciate it.
You should think about taking off some extra buttons (in Advanced settings) -- if you remove both the Voice Input button and the language toggle, the space bar is much bigger (making it an easier target).
This happens to me all the time on my old S2! However I've taken special care to stretch my thumb further, so I don't get that as much.
I use Smart Keyboard Pro and removed the comma button to lengthen the keyboard.
Maybe a solution for you is to use Smart Keyboard Pro, remove the fullstop button and add in the comma button (it's on the left) so your right thumb will hit the space button for sure. Only issue then is getting used to holding down the comma button for a fullstop
I've had a Galaxy Tab S7+ with the official keyboard cover, and now a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra with it's new keyboar cover. The new tablet and keyboard cover are great, but like the old one, it suffers some critical flaws that make it difficult to use in a serious context and I'd love to see someone who knows more about the Android input system weigh in on it.
Why is right-click such a hard thing to get right on this device? It seems like Samsung have hobbled the trackpad for two-finger pressed for right-click, it's so very inconsistent for where it works and where it doesn't.
If I plug a USB mouse directly into the device, problem solved, no longer do I suffer right-click not working where it should.
Problem:
I have a hosted version of Visual Studio Code I use to do remote development work, it runs in a docker in on a server in my garage. Cool. But with the Samsung settings for two-finger clicks set to "open-context menu", the trackpad fails to register right-clicks in hosted VSC, why? If I use a regular mouse, it works just fine. If I do alonger press on items with the trackpad, it does right-clicks just fine, but that'd slow and awful. Just trying it now, there's even single-click events that don't work with the trackpad that do work with a USB mouse. Bizarre.
Exact same problem withr Microsoft's RDP application. USB mouse works as expected, trackpad? Nope. It almost seems like the trackpad input is been treated as finger input rather than android cursor input for some reason.
My other pet peeve about the trackpad, for both the S7 and S8 is that if you start typing on the keyboard, the trackpad gets fully disabled, and there is a delay for it to become usable again. So you're forever typing something, then poking away at the trackpad for it to come back alive again, very annoying. The trackpad automatic disabling behaviour is not configurable either, none of this is and it keeps the device just one step away from being truely great in my opinion.
Does anyone have any way to solve this issues? Am I going to have to root my device to use some sort of app to override the input coming from the keyboard cover?
Have you tried tapping with 2 fingers on the touchpad? Alot of touchpads has tap with 1 finger does left click and tapping with 2 fingers does right click. Instead of clicking down the right side of track pad.
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Have you tried tapping with 2 fingers on the touchpad? Alot of touchpads has tap with 1 finger does left click and tapping with 2 fingers does right click. Instead of clicking down the right side of track pad.
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Yes I have. The right-click on the touchpad function only works in some places. If a use two finger taps on the touch pad on the home screen, it'll bring up a context menu, where as the same two finger tap in visual studio code web or in remote desktop just does left click actions and doesn't bring up a right click menu. Whereas, if I use a USB mouse, right click works in ALL those scenarios, it's very strange.
I have added a video demonstration to show the issue.
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I have added a video demonstration to show the issue.
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What app do you use for remote thing? Could be a issue with app you use to remote control visual studio code. You could try Remote Desktop app from microsoft instead and see if right click works better.
Update: Maybe not. Tried it now and right click does not even work at all in the Remote Desktop app from Microsoft. Weird, but i would like to still know app you use. That brings up visual studio code like that up only with nothing else.
Update #2: Nvm after closer look at video it does show bar on bottom and i could see you are remote controlling on windows xp device right?
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What app do you use for remote thing? Could be a issue with app you use to remote control visual studio code. You could try Remote Desktop app from microsoft instead and see if right click works better.
Update: Maybe not. Tried it now and right click does not even work at all in the Remote Desktop app from Microsoft. Weird, but i would like to still know app you use. That brings up visual studio code like that up only with nothing else.
Update #2: Nvm after closer look at video it does show bar on bottom and i could see you are remote controlling on windows xp device right?
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So, Visual Studio Code in the video is literally just running through the web browser (you can save specific web sites so they show up on your home screen and run without the need for an address bar, like I did with this). So Chrome or Kiwi Browser, what ever, same issue. For remote desktop stuff (not shown) I use Microsoft RDP or Parsec, both exhibit issues ONLY with the trackpad (or any bluetooth trackpad I connect, the Apple Magic Trackpad for example). The issue goes away when I use a USB mouse.
Samsung need to fix their trash-tier trackpad software so real human beings can use it, and it behaves like a mouse.
Before this I had an Apple iPad Pro, with the fancy keyboard cover that has a mouse trackpad. It did all this stuff just fine.
EDIT: I just realised why you thought I was using Windows XP. The bottom bar of visual studio code just happens to have the same colour scheme as the old start bar from Windows XP, that's funny! That's actually the information bar for Visual Studio Code, like build status, etc.
Hello, I have same issue when using my Samsung S8 Ultra as second monitor for my windows notebook. If I try to right click on official samsung keyboard it does not work, while I can type and left click without any issue. Any Idea? Of course also two finger tap does not work.