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I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
I would avoid doing a NAND flash unless you have a spare phone handy. I have a kaiser and I have been unable to find a build that is usable on a daily basis. Yes, running from NAND is definitely faster and better battery but its not worth it if you don't have another phone you can pop your SIM in if you get in a jam.
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I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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see the FAQ thread, answers about battery life and nand and everything else.
Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
mikeschevelle said:
I am reading about NAND, seems that it is basically a way to flash Google ROMs instead of booting from the memory card.
I have a few questions, I have read that it makes linux run faster and the battery life last longer, my questions are about how much faster and about how much better is the battery life vs running from the card. I am still using a winmo ROM that runs pretty good and gets me a few days of battery life, but I am always itching for something new. I tried Ion and a few others but wasnt even getting close to a day on the battery and it would hang up and/or run slow at times.
Thanks for the guidance, I just wanna do my research before going around flashing with NAND, since I forgot which ROM I am using now and the ability to find it again if I want to revert back to it.
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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?
mssmison said:
Seeing as your in the vogue forum, I would assume you have a vogue, so I would ignore the polaris user
Nand runs great, it's nothing more than a flashed nbh with android, so you won't need windows mobile.
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I am running from SD card in Haret and I agree with mssmison. I find Android quite usable on a daily basis and can only imagine that NAND would be even better! I am using Myn's Warm Donut. It's great. It has 8 themes to choose from.
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mssmison, how long is your battery lasting?
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Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.
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Before my vogue died.. It's hard to say cause I spent so much time developing, installing, uninstalling, flashing etc. But when I wasn't 'playing about' I was getting about 4 days +. Data always on, but I rarely ever make calls..
It really depends what you're doing though, just like in winmo.
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I want that vogue; I've never gotten much past 24h with mine with data on, background data off. I rarely talk on my phone, mainly texting, rare internet. have not noted a difference in battery life between nand and sd. people's experience with battery is very variable.
so i have the infamous samsung moment. you wanna know what really sucks about it? i listened to grooveshark for 10 minutes today. 10 minutes! the battery was at 75% when i started. when i was done, it was at 50%! yes, ive flashed to stock, yes ive tried other roms, yes ive done it all. disabled JIT, had the barest rom ever, and i still cant get a good battery life. so im pretty much set on switching to a new phone. but i need to know what the downfalls of the hero are. is battery life horendous? does it get really hot when you leave it in your pocket? how functional are the 2.2 roms? how much can i optimize it? give me all the info possible, especially stuff about signal strength and battery life. and rooting too, how easy is that? it seems a little unnecassarily complicated on the moment... thanks
Skip the hero and get an epic or evo....or wait a few more weeks and see what else there is. Sprint has already forgotten about the hero.
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i have like no money. id love to get one of those, but i barely got the moment to begin with. im only 15 btw
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
the hero is a nice device. the 4g devices arent worth the premium. data will never be worth what they charge even WITHOUT the ten dollar upcharge on the terribly bulky epic or the over sized evo. no sense getting a 'flagship' device because they change constantly. soon we'll have dual core procs on these phones and even then, consumers wont be happy.
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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Your friend must have jacked up his evo because my wife has one and it blows my OC'ed hero out of the water (CM6.1). You especially notice the speed in the browser and the games that I download on it without permission.
I agree the $10 extra a month is hard to swallow. Just remember that 2 years is a long time to commit to an older phone.
Hero is a nice device. It is small and does not feel like a brick in your pocket. The battery life is not bad. I have not tried any battery tweaks, but with some minor tweaks, I can get anywhere between 18-24 hours on a full charge. The only time I have felt the phone get hot is while wireless tethering.
I got it new earlier this year and as time progressed, I was getting annoyed with some of it's shortcomings, due to the software provided by Sprint. It felt slow, could not utilize the SD card for apps and such. The last straw was when "The Powers" said they won't be giving the Hero any more Android updates...
So, I rooted it and put CM6 (stable). Since then, I have been feeling like a child with a whole new toy. It works amazing, plus no extra 4G surcharge... .
oh something else i thought of. i think the hero has multitouch, please confirm. does it also have flash player? if it doesnt have either, thats ok. the moment has neither
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yeah its got multi touch. it doesnt have full flash, officially anyway.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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What the battery tweak does is clock your CPU based on certain variables. You can set it's max and minimum limits whilest the phone is running on battery/USB power/AC power. Also, you can change it so it reduces the max CPU usage when the battery is below a certain percentage, as to suck the most time out of your battery.
I have my tweak settings maxed out at 729 mhz for any given variable and a min 176 mhz. My phone lasts all day and then some, for sure. I woke up with it at 75% (put it in airplane mode for the night because I was too lazy to find the charger) and currently it's at 55% after 8 1/2 hours of moderate use.
Results may vary, of course.
edit: I carry around an extra charged battery just in case. There's a Taiwanese vendor on eBay selling 2 spare batters + a wall charger (charges your external batteries without needing your phone with the option of USB charging as well) -- all for $12 or something. Definitely worth it and I think there's a post in the accessories forum with the link to it. Not sure if it died by now or not.
Good luck!
thanks for all this info guys! im cant wait to be able to get one of these things for myself!!! the hard part is the ebay bidding. i already lost 2 auctions that i was aiming for, trying for another one tonight, then done for the day. anywhere else that i might look to get an unlocked hero besides craigslist? i wont buy off there, no way.
EDIT: i finally won a hero off ebay!!! i got it for $110. i think thats a pretty good deal! but i was thinking about the rooting process, and i like the idea of a one click root, but i need a little more info. does the one click root install a recovery also? if it doesnt, is it possible that ROM Manager works with the Hero, and i can install clockwork recovery? i really appreciate all your info guys. thanks a bunch
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything im looking for the one click root that was spoke of earlier in the thread. can someone link me to it?
also, is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
EDIT: wait a second... does http://unrevoked.com/original/ really work? can someone confirm this for me?
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
thesubliminaljuggalo said:
The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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its not a palm... its a samsung moment that would quite peculiar if i tried to bring a webos backup to android... but i probably will start over. i have a bunch of crap on my phone anyhow. it would be a good thing.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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oh boy! thats alot of stuff! thanks alot for that! i didnt know xda had a wiki... but then again, sdx has one too, so i should have known.
winter128 said:
Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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yep, i read about the OTA updates to block the rooting. but take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910). this implies that you can root the .6 OTA. is that a typo, or legit? the wiki link above also says that .6 is rootable. i know how to downgrade if necessary, though. as far as the unrevoked rooting, i was right then! unrevoked then rom manager will do the trick? awesome thats way easy. and i know that i change recoveries within rom manager... i think im set guys! thanks alot for all your help. ill be sitting on that wiki link for a while. im gonna read all i can before my hero comes im super duper excited!!! and i will have fun!!! i plan on flashing CM6 anyhow
.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
steve19137 said:
how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
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In the Development section, check for the Easy Root thread. Takes about 3 minutes.
I am getting a little tired of the energy roms and Jackos roms draining the battery....i'm not looking for a fix, I want to know if a chef will cook up a rom that is similar to Chadsters e2 roms. I want something stable and very close to stock with task manager, youtube, google maps, etc. I'm really wanting this type of rom but all similar roms have been deleted. Thank You to anyone that helps out.
Try WCX 21916 w/Arcsoft. It's what you are searching for.
I want the htc messaging, idk why, I just really like it. I want it close to the stock 2.10 version with all the goodies.
Hi redwolf... The WC roms do have an HTC messaging version. They all work great, I'm a fan. Definately give one a go. You just need to decide 219XX (classic buttons) or 23XXX (bottom buttons). Both have HTC Messaging options. All the WC roms are fast, and have very good battery life.
Jackos rom drains your battery? Maybe your battery is bad my battery lasts like 2 days with Jackos rom
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No, I have two batteries. One was the original that was fine and another I got from a warranty exchange. I used Chadsters roms for a long time and had to switch to energy and/or Jackos, and my battery last at a max of about 11 hours. With chadsters, it would go for like 3 days without dying. Thank you for the advice and I will give the WC roms a try. Again, Thanks!!
Go try WC's roms. I've tried lots of stuff and I think they are the best for stabilty and speed. Don't expect bling, but expect a stock-like ROM that is better in every way. See my signature.
(and btw, there is an HTC messaging version)
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Sry, looks like from your last post that you are already on your way to trying a WC rom...
People seriously get days out of their batteries on these phones? I have two 2400 mh batteries that I swap in the morning and afternoon....it's not rom specific because I did the same thing with the stock rom...I figure it's a device usage issue...I use the thing a lot more than other people, I suppose....but really??....days out of their batteries?
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
My testers have all different kinds of usage with their phones...one uses 3g and wifi on constantly, others use 3g and sync emails every 5 minutes for work...so the testing has been very thorough in this aspect....
WC
GT247 said:
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
Wasnt implying anything, was just stating procedure we go through is ll...
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
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If you want a specifics scenario with WCX 28148 Sense 2021 build :
I use a RHOD100 with 4.49.25.17 radio, with HSDPA enabled, dynamic screen backlight, 2 minutes turn off device, 10 minutes OTA Active sync, Opera backgrounded, Twitter and Weather updated hourly, and I reach 2 days after 2 full battery cycles after HR.
Note that radio's choice has a real impact on autonomy. .91 and .95 sucks around 30% more battery with the very same scenario.
Now, your autonomy will vary with your area coverage when you call. I phone at least 30 minutes a day, sometimes more, rarely less.
Hmm....I've never changed the radio from the original AT&T ROM...I've wondered if I should in the past but being new and stupid, I just figured that since I've never had signal issues and what not, I'd just keep the one I have (not to mention I don't know how to flash a new one...lol)...the one I have now is 4.48.25.20...
btw, I like hearing other's usage stats, I take and make a ton of calls...I remember my 900 minute monthly plan from years ago...and the 1400 dollar bill I got in a month for going over my plan limit...lmao, I forget how many hours of calls I had...but who wouldn't when the 1400 dollar number hits?
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
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(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
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Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?
What's up guys. So I had put MM on a friend's N6 for her so that she could enjoy the best of what android can offer (got her to sell her Iphone, Yessss)
Anyway... Now that I have a 64GB nexus 6 of my own and after many days of testing... I feel like something is wrong.
She is a pretty standard user, while I am a super heavy user... and neither of us can get past roughly 10 hours of total time, regardless of SOT. I've tried Chroma, Light, and Euphoria (MM builds) on both of our devices and the results are almost always the same. For her, the past week has been a max of 10 hours total time, but sometimes as little as 6 hours without use if not less, with less than 1 hour of SOT. Then on mine, which I've only had for 2 days mind you, the results are strangely similar, the best I got was 9 hours of total time with 3 hours SOT. While our results are somewhat different they both still... suck.
Is there some kind of magical nonsense I missed that must be preformed before moving to MM? Both devices were on LP to start with. I'm honestly just moving back to 5.1.1 for now (Mainly for xposed anyway) but...still I know that after reading so many good comments in threads that this cannot be some general "MM sucks" thing. It must be our devices, or the way I am modding them.
Basically, for both devices I did the following...
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP, the one that was said to work on MM
Backed up Stock Rom
Flashed a custom ROM
...Is there something new that I am not aware of? I've tried to search a bit but I've honestly not sure what to search for exactly. I tried searching for firmware...but that didn't really seem conclusive.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.
simms22 said:
battery life has nothing to do with you rooting/unlocking/flashing your phone. it all has to do with how you set up, which apps you install and use, how you use the device, and your signal quality. that said, if you keep your brightness high, you will get lowered battery life, no matter what.
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right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?
what carrier are you on? there are different roms per carrier and having the wrong one might be affecting this
Locklear308 said:
right, but the fact that we both have different uses (mine being heavy hers being light) and use different apps...yet the results are similar?
I'm talking about is there some kind of firmware that is needed? Similar to HTC devices and the OnePlus one going from kitkat to LP?
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no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.
simms22 said:
no. if your phones have booted, and are running, you got everything. your battery life is what i have "normally" seen from average users that dont know much about keeping good battery life. i normally see anywhere from 5-6.5 hours sot, and minimally 20 hours total in battery life.
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...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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If dirty flash didn't work I would clean flash. Wipe til it squeaks. Dirty flash don't always work when flashing a new base.
Locklear308 said:
...You're sure? If anything, her light use should allow her to go on for a long time. I've been checking gsam while letting the phone sit. No auto sync or any of that nonsense. And it's averaging 12% per hour... which is just crazy.
I mean I've had to defeat battery sucking issues before, but this is just crazy.
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theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.
simms22 said:
theres so much more to battery life then just "light use". i sync everything, and dont disable anything, keep my brightness low..
do you/she happen to use facebook? how about are you a gamer?
also, if your signal quality isnt good, your battery will never be.
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She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.
I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.
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She uses facebook, I do not... But still ... this is crazy terrible battery life. I mean... I expected MM to be better, but at least be equivalent to LP. But this is just insane.
Alright! After reading and looking around more, I've found a post that stated "FOR LOLLIPOP ROM USERS IS NECESSARY START FROM ANDROID M FACTORY OR UPGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER AND RADIO."
I tried searching for this but I'm not finding anything. I take it I just need to flash the stock factory image, but if one wanted just to upgrade, where are the Bootloader and Radio files?
I am downloading the factory image now and will report if this helps at all, perhaps this will help other users.
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they are in the factory image. if you are running marsh, you have them both. btw, factory images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?csw=1#yakju
haibane said:
I found the best way to go was to flash the stock firmware and start from scratch. I simply did a clean install. My battery life has improved drastically from Lollipop.
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Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.
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Did you flash the entire stock rom/firmware/boot etc? Or just the radio and bootloader? I just flashed the bootloader and radio, but I guess I might as well do it all.
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I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.
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I did the whole thing. I've found with any phone on any OS, it is generally best to do a full clean install with full number changes.
While you lose a fair amount of content, it is worth the benefit.
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I always keep my apps backed up on a USB drive lol. Believe it or not this is the first device I've had to go from one major build to the next. Other than the OnePlus One. I was not aware you could even update the bootloader really lol, I thought that was an annoying HTC thing. Alright, I shall get to flashing.