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Iphone 4 or nexus still

hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think

I'll never buy an iPhone or an Apple product, simply because I dislike how they run things and "assume" for the majority of their user base.
I will readily admit the iPhone4 looks good and will have a stunning display and has loads of apps. However I see the iPhone as a common user phone - not that there's anything wrong with that.
I prefer Android because it gives me the flexibility to customise and manipulate almost everything on it, how I want and in the way I want. Apple does not.
And you can't really compare teh hardware between the two - the iPhone4 is a good piece of kit, no doubt. But keep in mind the NexusOne came out long before it. New hardware and kit comes out every month or so - within a few months there will be phones that greatly surpass the iPhone4's hardware.
It comes down to what YOU want from a phone. I'm happy with Android and will stick with it, having used Symbian and Winmo 6.5 previously. I've used an iPhone - and I don't like the "Apple Experience".
Just my opinion..

I like the customisation and freedom of android, but the iphone 4 is very well polished, I just want to see how the screen does in bright daylight as the N1 is ****...

If you have to ask, I think you're in the wrong place.

720p just came in

Stick to the Nexus one and wait for the Nexus two? probably better hardware and android 3.0

^^if there is a nexus two im deffinatly buying it the nexus one has been the best phone ever and iwont swtich to apple. ever.

Or get a Samsung galaxy s

what is so attractive about the new iphone, why are people all the sudden "should i switch?". Why?! Nothing has changed! They have a new screen, thats cool, multitaking, thats old news but ok, WHAT?! There is nothing enticing in the new iPhone versus the older ones

The big question to ask is this:
Do you LIKE being in shackles?
Or do you like to be FREE?
If you like being in shackles, then I have to ask this next question: Why have you not committed a serious crime in a non-death-penalty jurisdiction to land yourself permanently in prison?
Or have you? Do they let you have cellphones in prison now?

4luk88 said:
hey guys
have had my nexus since feb now and never looked back till i seen the iphone 4
i know i know
i hate apple 2 but with all there polished apps and 720p rec and well just the smoothness im wondering if i should take the switch
i live in aust and pretty much no1 knows about the nexus or any even android its weird and there not really in Australian apps for train times or football scores that are any good.. and i have seen apples and there awesome
so after seeing the iphone 4 what you guys think
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Go for the phone that you feel gives the most of your money. We are consumers and I have learned the hard way that no company really cares about you or your support. Companies like MS, Google and Apple are there to make money. Don't feel obliged to stay with a phone or OS because of moral reasons. If one product gives you better value go for it.
For me, N1 was better value than WinMo and I made the switch. A lot of my work is based on google apps (domain one.. no android) so I get more done with android. But if tomorrow, iPhone does it better, Ii will shift.
You will save a lot or be more happy by throwing away any brand loyalty/hatred.

I'm sticking with whatever phone Cyanogen get's I had the iPhone and realized I hated it because I felt so restricted I mean I won't lie it had great apps and games and a superior media player but I still feel that android is superior just because little features like deleting a song from my phone instead of hooking up to iTunes. After I got rid of my iPhone I got a G1 and discovered Cyanogen and then saw that he was getting the Nexus One and I got one a week or 2 after it was realized. So whatever phone he gets next I'll probably be getting it

After over 5 years of dedication I'm beginning to lose faith in HTC...

First of all I'd like to say HTC has been great to me... They were always the best about upgrading whatever software was on the phones, they've always been great tech support and up until recently their phones were always revolutionary but now... I mean it's like they're releasing the same 5 phones over and over with a different processor or camera and acting as though it's something innovative. Where a lot of companies are moving forward in design they've been at a standstill since the release of the Nexus One. I know "The pyramid is going to be so great" or something like that but really it looks like an HD7/Evo/HD2 with a better processor... I just don't get the appeal anymore. Even Kyocera is coming out with more interesting devices and that's just depressing. What happened to when HTC's phone lineups had interesting phones? What's the most interesting they have as of late? The surround? Someone at HTC please bring them back to their roots because their new models are just repetitive and dull...

yes, they may be bringing similar phones, but they are all still different. They pretty much got a variation of the evo, all with 4g capabilities, and similar on every carrier for android, and then a lesser version with only 3g on every carrier. i dont pay much attention to windows phones though. but there are rumors of an HTC tablet coming up, maybe that's where all there innovation is going to? just use the rest to keep the money coming in ATM? either way, im more than satisfied with upgraded to my evo from the samsung instinct.

Where else are you going to go? Motorola has their **** on lockdown and believe me, you do not want to enter the Samsung deathtrap.
I will never buy anything but HTC again.

Eh I didn't go Android this time so I'm happy with Samsung Dell and LG in terms of wp7 and can't wait for nokias. I got tired of the fragmentation too

So what do you going to use now after HTC ?
are you apply to samsung developers ?

Yea, I think they felt superior and now they are letting their product go down for sure.

samsung's good. the epic wasn't, but my past two phones i got with them were good (a dumb phone, and a smart phone) and almost never glitched. my parents had the epic for two weeks, and had everything foreclosing, and bad service. i say you go on ATT get the atrix when it comes out for android. motorola's getting good stuff, and android rocks. but i heard W7 is getting pretty good. picking good phone's these days is a pain in the *ss. btw im new, are we allowed to cuss?

Nokia and Motorola are where its at... thats the only hardware id consider atm.

That long huh
It took you five yrs. huh. After my first HTC phone I was done with them. I will only buy one of their phones if they're the only manufacturer my service provider is carrying WM7 on. Hopefully Sprint will carry more handsets. I would hate to get one of those subpar phones again. I never understood what everyone thinks is so great about HTC.

I still firmly believe that they havent really release an HD2/EVO successor, and by that, I mean creating such a magnitude that it ripples throughout the entire mobile market. Maybe they're enjoying their new-found earnings, but I hope they get to work on something truly spectacular that the world havent seen. We still have MWC and CTIA to go.

z33dev33l said:
...can't wait for nokias.
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Only an American...
Here in the rest of the world, we've seen over the past few years just how far Nokia has sunk.
Their handsets are nowhere near the standard of Samsung and HTC and MS were fools to risk the support of superior OEM partners to woo them.
Nokia haven't been on top since the N95 and apart from the top two or three models in their range, most of what they have on the market is crap.
And that's not to say the top models are all that good, they're nowhere near the standard of top Android handsets, the iPhone or the WP7 range.
As things stand, Nokia are about the only manufacturer I'd never consider buying from.
And I very much doubt my opinion will be changed by their WP7 offerings.

Step666 said:
Only an American...
Here in the rest of the world, we've seen over the past few years just how far Nokia has sunk.
Their handsets are nowhere near the standard of Samsung and HTC and MS were fools to risk the support of superior OEM partners to woo them.
Nokia haven't been on top since the N95 and apart from the top two or three models in their range, most of what they have on the market is crap.
And that's not to say the top models are all that good, they're nowhere near the standard of top Android handsets, the iPhone or the WP7 range.
As things stand, Nokia are about the only manufacturer I'd never consider buying from.
And I very much doubt my opinion will be changed by their WP7 offerings.
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If I was running on symbian I wouldn't build top-tier phones either. It would be a waste of power on a bum OS... Just like android, why the powerful GPU and no GPU accelerated UI? It'd just be a waste of resources. With a good OS that will make use of those resources they'll be out of that rut... Symbian wasnt exactly known for its awesome games or power hungry apps so why put the stuff in just to increase the price without reason? I do think they'll need to step up the game and by what they've said I have quite a bit of faith that they will. Not to mention all specs aside they're one of few out there who are still innovative...

I agree, but I don't see what other company isn't doing the same thing, except IPhone, but since I hate apple, and am a loyal ally to Microsoft, HTC is still the best for me!
p.s. my 10th post

xzpx said:
I agree, but I don't see what other company isn't doing the same thing, except IPhone, but since I hate apple, and am a loyal ally to Microsoft, HTC is still the best for me!
p.s. my 10th post
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HTCs WP7 devices have been subpar really... Id rather get a focus unlocked...

You're missing half the point.
It's not just the specs, the build quality and reliability just isn't there.
The majority of their stuff is below-par buggy crap and I don't see switching OSs breaking them out of that rut.
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Not to mention all specs aside they're one of few out there who are still innovative...
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Ah ha ha! Are you stoned?
This is the company that repeatedly delayed/scrapped/squashed MeeGo and has pumped countless BILLIONS into Symbian.
Seriously, Nokia has been spending more on R&D than anyone else and ~90% of that has been wasted on a PoS out-of-date OS that no-one wants.
But then you look at MeeGo and they've still managed to spend more on it than HTC spends in total and it basically doesn't exist, at least not in any commercial sense. How a company can spend so much money on something they have no intention of trying to sell to customers is mind-boggling.
Nokia can't innovate to save themselves, if they could they wouldn't be switching to WP7.

The innovation I speak of is strictly hardware. There's no denying that symbian was just terrible and I dont see how anyone can expect MeeGo to be anything more than a failure... However the design of their phones is not to blame for OS shortcomings. Sure WP7 will be like their first endeavor into high end hardware (bigger processors and such) but with the innovation behind their other devices I think they could bring WP7 to a more acceptable level. I'd love to see a good WP7 device with good battery life and a great camera. As far as I'm concerned 1 gig processor is enough for a phone as long as it utilizes what's there unlike other OSes.

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The innovation I speak of is strictly hardware.
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Such as?
What have Nokia done in the past couple of years that's innovative?

i agree with everyone that nokia sucks. motorola, and HTC are good, and if you dont like them go with Samsung (the epic wasn't too bad) if you don't like them either go Apple if you still want an somewhat-decent smartphone. but other then that you might as well buy a flip phone. HTC is the best for phones on sprint, my parents have had several htc windows mobile os phones, and now we all got the evo. but for tablets, the zoom if it was cheaper (check gizmodo.com to see what im talking about) and something with similar specs.
Btw we should have a favorite phone maker poll, and a favorite upcoming tablet poll.

While some of you may be losing faith in HTC I have to say that they have been great so far and I only expect more innovation. As a company they are even better. In the past few months I have been writing a business paper on smartphones, part of the research involved interviewing an HTC employee. I emailed HTC President Jason Mackenzie and within 10 minutes got a reply and a Yes to my interview. Companies that can go out of their way for customers and hear their concerns and complaints keeps me faithful. My next device will always be HTC

xodaQo said:
I will never buy anything but HTC again.
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Same here, mistake buying an LG.
Il stick to HTC, thank you very much!
On topic with the OP:
I heard HTC is going to do some dual core stuff. Can't wait!
I think HTC has got to the point where they have achieved nearly everything they can with mobile devices apart from speed.
I think htc would have to get some nice new phone designs and some unbelievable hardware spec to make it interesting.

HTC falling further and further downhill...

So HTC seems to have run completely out of new and innovative ideas and when they do now it's just depressing. Their recent devices are just re-releases of the same device over and over except with a bigger processor and perhaps a better camera. They barely bother to change the chassis anymore. The last decent innovation I saw HTC come up with was the G1 Z sliding mechanism and how did they follow that up? G2 Z-hinge? Yeah, how's it hanging? After this they went on to release the HTC surround? Is dropping acid mandatory to be a hardware designer at HTC these days because those guys had to be on something to think that was a remotely decent device. I mean all in all aside from processors HTC's hardware is third rate. Their outdated screens are just depressing and their build-quality leaves something to be desired. What happened to the days when HTC seemed like the future of phones? Did their time already come and pass?

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So HTC seems to have run completely out of new and innovative ideas and when they do now it's just depressing. Their recent devices are just re-releases of the same device over and over except with a bigger processor and perhaps a better camera. They barely bother to change the chassis anymore. The last decent innovation I saw HTC come up with was the G1 Z sliding mechanism and how did they follow that up? G2 Z-hinge? Yeah, how's it hanging? After this they went on to release the HTC surround? Is dropping acid mandatory to be a hardware designer at HTC these days because those guys had to be on something to think that was a remotely decent device. I mean all in all aside from processors HTC's hardware is third rate. Their outdated screens are just depressing and their build-quality leaves something to be desired. What happened to the days when HTC seemed like the future of phones? Did their time already come and pass?
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Huuhahah. nice word play. It leaves something to be "desired"
On a more serious note. i agree. no innovative designs from the guys @HTC.
Also specs wise i really have the feeling the competition is starting to get ahead. More 1080p dual core shiney stuff htc!. get with the program.

HTC chassis design is the best so you could say there is no point trying to re-invent the wheel. Without making drastic, and therefore unpopular changes to their designs there are only so many things they can do!
I do think their quality control could be better though and i'm still fuming that they did diddly squat to rectify the hardware issues with the Nexus One. Rather than flooding the market with derivitive products perhaps they should focus on making fewer but better handsets.

your still a fool if you buy somthing over the hd2 and your a htc fan (and your not a millionaire)
karma shall reward the ones who are patient

HTC got into the popularity game now, when before they were in the quality game. Carriers WANT HTC to make phones for them, and since carriers like to release a new phone every two months, there is no way HTC can be innovative. HTC is in it for the money, which is what most companies do. And you tell me, if you had a skill, made decent money on it, then a few people wanted you to use your skill towards their business, and all will pay you a ****load, you would do it.

After reading a Thunderbolt review another glaring HTC oversight was apparent. The micro usb charging port is on the side of the device, which is bad enough, but it's on the side that will be down when using the kickstand in Landscape, so you can't watch a movie and charge simultaneously
How are they making such fundamental errors?

On my experience is nothing related only to HTC, every brand is going slow as they want us to buy mobiles every year, if they launch (and sure they can) a super ultra nice device a lot of us would go for it and probably won´t upgrade as fast as they want.
So they want our money and that´s because they won´t go as fast as you want...
Just my opinion...

now hang on let's not be super drastic about htc and trust me, I've been extremely critical of htc
see
http://wmpoweruser.com/editorial-me-to-nokia-thank-you/
and while I have been critical, I am intrigued with their new button layout and design. It does look a bit more modern, but does that mean we users will get a better experience vs. the famed tp2 keyboard?
Now otherwise I do agree with one thing - HTC is in an era of non innovation. I would love to have a vertical slider from htc to compete with the dell venue pro; I'd also like to have some more odds and ends from htc. Why consumers aren't getting them is beyond me. Perhaps it legality, which would make sense. But overall, their chassis designs need a major change...

HTC still is stable and will surely have a huge share in the mobile market for the next 2-3 years (till tablets come into the mainstream)
See Nokia, they have been completely wiped off the mobile scene. The new E series is a huge flop. Even with their publicity nothing is happening with Nokia. It is alive only because of the low-end mobiles.
Secondly, SE. Even they are not aware of what they are doing. Just making mobiles, selling and forgetting about them. They are'nt even worth of being in the market
Cant say anything about samsung
As much as i know, Motorola will be the leading player in the coming 2-3 years. Seeing its exhibits in the CES '11 they surely have a lot of innovation coming in the mobile industry

vineet8137 said:
See Nokia, they have been completely wiped off the mobile scene. The new E series is a huge flop. Even with their publicity nothing is happening with Nokia. It is alive only because of the low-end mobiles.
Secondly, SE. Even they are not aware of what they are doing. Just making mobiles, selling and forgetting about them. They are'nt even worth of being in the market
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they both doing really well in europ tho

The qHD, new sense, and a 3d phone is really falling down! Sweet bro.
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Let's be real, what else can you do aside from making the outer case of the phone a different color? Only thing you can do, is add on features and carrier support. 3d being one of them, a 4.3" device with a more updated network modem(3.8" for Tmobile), being the Mytouch 4g, Inspire 4g, Thunderbolt, and the Evo. You have your sliders with updated network modems, g2 for Tmobile, and Evo Shift for Sprint. HTC has always gone with a couple different design choices, and personally I think they look great. They can only do so much with the SoC they use, seeing that they use qualcomm SoCs that still perform pretty nice, even the 65nm versions(But not the gpu. Adreno 200 sucks). What else do you want from them? A TV with an LTE modem that runs Android 2.3 with Sense in 3d? Admitting, the HD7 has some problems with build quality but every company has an issue like that with a device. Hell, Samsung has many devices with problems.

One thing that's hindering everybody is battery technology. That's a hurdle to overcome. I wish that the manufacturers would quit with this bigger is better approach that they seem to be taking. I'd like a phone i can actually put in my pocket!
Of course having bigger devices makes it easier to fit all the components into a slim form factor, and a lot of people seem to like them, so the manufacturers benefit. But these bigger screens have got to be having an impact on battery life, right?

Nsandhu23 said:
The qHD, new sense, and a 3d phone is really falling down! Sweet bro.
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wat phone is that

Two things to say up front:
1. I am an HTC fan.
2. I am a former Samsung (Moment) customer and I would never go back.
Now, I do think Samsung has flashier styling, and probably HTC's design department could take some lessons from them.
That being said, I still love my EVO 4G and wouldn't trade it for the world.

Well at least you guys have 4g. Our only 4g carrier retardedly made an exclusive deal with Samsung for their phones. Sigh...
Snet from me HTC Dserie using lé XDA app. Excuse typoz.

souljaboy said:
wat phone is that
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Evolution 3D which will be announced March 22nd.
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DirkGently1 said:
HTC chassis design is the best so you could say there is no point trying to re-invent the wheel. Without making drastic, and therefore unpopular changes to their designs there are only so many things they can do!
I do think their quality control could be better though and i'm still fuming that they did diddly squat to rectify the hardware issues with the Nexus One. Rather than flooding the market with derivitive products perhaps they should focus on making fewer but better handsets.
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I agree!
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souljaboy said:
wat phone is that
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Just like I said earlier. http://m.androidcentral.com/sprints...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom there you have it
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just a word: HTC = UGLY
no style, no innovation... no taste.

Apple

I may seem out of place and stuff, but everywhere I go I see hateful posts about Apple, and how all their products are too expensive, unoriginal, and should be blasted out of existence, and also that all Apple users are "dumb fanboys", "pretentious", etc ...
I know that this is a forum, and that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't you think that the other party would think of us better, and maybe stop being as pretentious as it seems, if we set the example ? As it's said in the forum rules, "Tolerance is a two way street".
Kim.
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The simplicity of apple and lack of customizations is boring.
However i do like there ipods and ipod touches
they have lots of room, good battery life and have many apps that android doesn't have and probaly wont have for a long time.
I have a 64gb ipod touch 4g and i love it for all my music, putting music on my phone is just not for me..

davidrules7778 said:
The simplicity of apple and lack of customizations is boring.
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But that's what makes it attractive, Simplicity.
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davidrules7778 said:
I have a 64gb ipod touch 4g and i love it for all my music, putting music on my phone is just not for me..
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QFT .............................

davidrules7778 said:
The simplicity of apple and lack of customizations is boring.
However i do like there ipods and ipod touches
they have lots of room, good battery life and have many apps that android doesn't have and probaly wont have for a long time.
I have a 64gb ipod touch 4g and i love it for all my music, putting music on my phone is just not for me..
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I'm a portable audiophile enthusiast and have a collection of many different brands of DAPs (MP3 players) and IEMs. Among the best for cleanest and best sound quality are my Cowon D2, Samsung P3, iRiver Clix2 and iPod Nano 3G. I have a few Sandisk DAPs that aren't too bad either. But the iPod Nano 3G produces outstanding SQ. Many iPods are excellent for the SQ and the iPhone started out as a DAP with phone function. That's what separates it from Androids and other smartphones. The iPhone started out not as a smartphone, but a media player and the smartphone part was included.And when the iPhone was first introduced, it used a high-end audio chip from Wolfson just like the Nano 3G and Cowon D2 use.
Apple got away from the Wolfson chip in the iPhone 4 but what it uses is no slouch. I find the audio quality of the iPhone 4 to be quite good. However, the latest Samsung smartphones...like the Infuse 4G and possibly the upcoming SGS2...have superior SQ. My Infuse impresses me to no end how wonderful it sounds. I believe it is using the Yamaha audio chip. But previous high-end Samsung smartphones...like the Galaxy S...used the Wolfson chip. But the latest stuff from Samsung is purely excellent.
Apple needs to rethink the iPhone's history and improve it with ever cleaner and richer audio quality. I'd suggest they return to using the Wolfson chip or contract for the Yamaha chips.

My main concern with Apple products is the ridiculous way that they come out with a "new idea", like video calling that has been around for years, and doesn't need wifi like their version, and then they shove advert after advert down your throat, telling you that if you don't have an iPhone then you don't have it!
It basically looks like they're saying, "Anyone who falls for this crap doesn't deserve anything original!"
I'm not a fanboy of anything (maybe my PS3, a little), but I sort of feel sorry for people who hear an advert that states, "If you don't have an iPhone then you don't have a phone with an 'i' at the beginning of the name, followed by the word 'phone'" and think it's a really great idea.
Great products - truly - but marketed for idiots. I'd feel like a child buying one.
I'm not knocking anyone who has one - I'm saying that's how their marketing makes me feel, not what I think of their users/fanbase.

For discussions about he fruit we have a sister site where you all can talk about how wonderful it is, do not expect to find much love in here...

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For discussions about he fruit...
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She fruit.

johncmolyneux said:
My main concern with Apple products is the ridiculous way that they come out with a "new idea", like video calling that has been around for years, and doesn't need wifi like their version, and then they shove advert after advert down your throat, telling you that if you don't have an iPhone then you don't have it!
It basically looks like they're saying, "Anyone who falls for this crap doesn't deserve anything original!"
I'm not a fanboy of anything (maybe my PS3, a little), but I sort of feel sorry for people who hear an advert that states, "If you don't have an iPhone then you don't have a phone with an 'i' at the beginning of the name, followed by the word 'phone'" and think it's a really great idea.
Great products - truly - but marketed for idiots. I'd feel like a child buying one.
I'm not knocking anyone who has one - I'm saying that's how their marketing makes me feel, not what I think of their users/fanbase.
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I'm constantly getting into trouble with the missus for screaming at the TV every time that *&$!%"^ advert comes on....
(She has one)

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I'm constantly getting into trouble with the missus for screaming at the TV every time that *&$!%"^ advert comes on....
(She has one)
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"If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have xxxxxx".
"YES!!!! YES I F***N DO!!!"
I know that feeling so well!

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I don't care much about the love. I've spent the past years amongst them, and I can't help noticing that the proportion of threads dedicated or turned into apple-slacking is more important on Android forums, than the other way round. It's all a question of "respect".
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Anyone have a GNex, N7, and iPad?

I would try N7 in a heartbeat, if it weren't for already having the iPad3 alongside my GNex.
I was just wondering if anyone has all three and uses them all quite a bit?
The only time I could see myself really using all three is browsing N7 in bed while watching a movie on XBMC on iPad3.
But even then it seems like total overkill.

I have 4S, iPad 3 and now N7. The N7 is just easier to use for surfing and reading.
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I have an iPhone 4, the new iPad, GNex and Nexus 7. I still use the iPad at home, Nexus 7 has replaced my notepad at work and GNex is my primary phone for now.

I have an N7 and an iPad 3. I use the N7 for quick updates on email and such, along with ebook reading and gaming. I use the iPad for browsing, RSS feed reading, and video (particularly HBO Go). Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
If I was forced to choose just one, I'd choose the N7 if it had HBO Go. I think the 7" form factor is just better overall, for my uses at least.

Dang, you guys with iPhones and GNex surprise me as well though I'm impressed.
I sold my 4S a few days after I got my GNex.
I originally planned on SIM swapping phones when I pleased, but then I found my 4S collecting dust and it not feasible.

Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I love my GNex.
4S camera is unbeatable. And I had the 32GB model, but I sold it after unlocking it for enough to cover GNex and almost all of my upgrade if I choose to get the next iPhone on contract.
A new Nexus might come out/probably will, but after that price drop, I didn't want to be playing the waiting game. And I've never owned an Android before this.

I do
I have a retina iPad (still my favorite), Galaxy Nexus (it has pretty much become a glorified hotspot for my Nexus 7), iPhone 4s (my daily phone, but just barely as I go back and forth between my Galxy Nexus and iPhone 4s), and just got the Nexus 7 (I got the 8gb one as I use it primarily for an ereader and tinkering).
Like I said above my go to device is still my iPad. Thevisplay is about 90% of the reason. I mean the Nexus 7 has an ok display and it gets the job done but I expected better than my old ipad 2 as it has more pixel density and both are IPS, but I was way wrong. It is better than my former Transformer Prime by a country mile and way way way better than my Xoom. I really am sensitive to great displays though. For some it doesn't bother them, but for me I've been waiting years for the display tech we are now seeing and the iPhone and iPad retina displays are so far ahead of anything else out in my opinion it's almost hard to use anything else. I know it sounds stupid and lame but even months after getting my retina iPad at launch I still get that amazed feeling every time I pick it up and I really really notice the displays on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus especially when reading.
Anyways I would say if you got the cash pick a Nexus 7 up. It is the best $200 I've spent in a long time and I have no regrets except the severe lack of apps but I don't notice it as much as I did on my Prime or Xoom I think that's due to phone apps (like twitter) look much better on the Nexus 7 than a 10 inch display. If you have any other questions let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.

Second that, best 200 spent in some time. N7 is just refreshing!
Which you prefer, 4s or gnex overall?
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yeah i'd be hard pressed to give up my ipad 3 also. I love it and it satisfies my iOS cravings. After all, iOS was apparently originally designed for a tablet in its development before being launched on iPhone (back when it was iPhone OS)
I also swapped it way too many times to get one that had an acceptable QC screen, BEAUTIFUL display, without a pink hot corner, or multiple colored tints, or weird contrast. No way I'd give this one up easily. Even when an iPad "4" or whatever comes out.
Even with Color Profile jailbreak app to tweak it can't hide a defective screen. Meanwhile, the one and only iPad3 my parents bought is perfect as well (I have a knack for this thing).
4S screen is definitely technically superior to AMOLED and brighter, but I don't care. I pick up my parents' iPhones and I wonder how I went 3.5" so long without complaint. the 4.65" (and maybe I got a great screen too whereas others did not) makes browsing enjoyable again on the go.
I am still "open" as to which phone I will purchase next. But I'm so much more pleased with my Nexus than I could have ever anticipated.
I should also add I've had every generation iPhone (traded my 4 and cash for a 4S back in January before I sold it a few weeks ago) and without jailbreak, I think I would have tried out Android much sooner. Stock iPhones bother me a lot. They're too limiting. I was even going to hold onto my 4 indefinitely over 4S until I started seeing that developers were close to wrapping up the iOS5/A5 exploit on 5.0.1 (and later 5.1.1)

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Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.

I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
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angermeans said:
I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
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Thanks, good feedback!
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.

For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
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No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.

Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.

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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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It sounds like we are almost opposite. Ive been on Android for years and felt that I had left iOS for good. I even tortured myself by trying to talk myself into thinking that Android tablets where better than iPads and purchased the horrible Xoom and buggy Transformer Prime. I find myself in a weird spot with Android right now. Its hard to put my finger on it, really. I started out with the Nexus One after owning every iPhone up to the 3Gs and I was so bored with iOS. The Nexus One is still to this day my favorite device I've ever owned. I even find myself sometimes looking for a great deal on one just to have it. I have a bunch of phones lying around and I still can't see why I ever sold it. I think it was because it was an ATT one and I was even more sick of ATT then I was the 3Gs and I got a great job at Verizon Wireless (still work there now in fact). I keep all my devices in pristine condition and I hope I dont jinx myself, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've dropped a device. Anyways me being bored and getting into a great new world in Android (the early days were great and Android is a whole different beast now) and also going to school and learning to code it felt like I would always have an Android device. I loved the openness, tinkering was great, and the community was even better. I mean I kept my Macbook and have even had a couple since then. I cant stand Windows (although I loved my HTC Trophy and WP7, go figure. Also XBOX 360 is still the best console ever IMHO) and I love Mac OS X. I guess the only thing I can think of that happened was the many many many skinned Android devices I've owned since my Nexus One and the many problems that came with them. I must have owned a dozen or so and if it came out on Verizon and was a high end device I probably owned it the last two and a half years. I had no desire to go back to the iPhone for the same reasons you mentioned above. The small screen and lack of LTE was the main ones.
Anyways the last year and a half has been real annoying on the Android front at least for me. You can chalk that up to what I mentioned above. The always waiting for updates (even thought the first thing I do is root and flash a ROM), the extreme lack of apps (even though I really didnt notice this until getting the retina iPad), the lagginess you get on an Android phone, and worst of all the bastardization of OEM skinned devices by their creators. What I mean was you would get maybe one update and it was on average 6-8 months too late, always had a million bugs, and by the time it launched you still are an Android version behind. Mostly this aggravating feeling I have of Android came from 3 devices. The HTC TBolt, Motorola Xoom (and Motorola Droid X and Droid 2, but Ill leave those out as I only kept them for less than a month before I couldnt take Blur anymore), and the Transformer Prime. Those devices and especially Honeycomb killed my love of Android. Well, those and Verizon not having a Nexus branded device (Im sorry I wont ever call the Xoom a Nexus device or even a Google Experience Device. Waiting 9 months for a promised 4G update, lack of SD card that works, months of waiting for ICS, and worst of all the horrible display. Its still the only device that gave me migraines on a regular basis).
I've always loved a high pixel density display. Its the main reason I left the 3Gs for the Nexus One, the reason I got the Xoom over the iPad2 (even though the Xoom had more pixel density it was no where near the quality display that Apple used on its iPad), and the main reason (paired with my new found hate of Android tablets after the Xoom and Prime) that I finally dumped Android for iOS when the retina iPad came out. I figured I could deal with iOS for the high pixel density display. What I found shocked the hell out of me. The iOS I left on the 3Gs was no where near the iOS on the retina iPad. Like you said in your post iOS is gorgeous and works great on the iPad. The iPhone is a little cramped and iOS def feels that it was designed to originally come on the iPad and not the iPhone. I love the apps, the display was the best I've ever used on any device, it was extremely fluid, and most of all it did not feel like I was using a tablet. What I mean is I always fought with using my Xoom and Prime. It felt as if I was scratching my fingers down a chalkboard whenever I swiped through screens (btw this is no where near the feeling i get on the Nexus 7). The iPad never fought with me it just got out of the way and gave me my content. It is genious and I still cannot see exactly what it is, but this is the best I can describe it.
Anyways, before the iPad I dumped my Tbolt for the HTC Trophy and waited for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I used that and loved it. I still do. It is a completely different device and pure Google is the only way to go in my opinion and I dont forsee myself going back to a skinned device at least not how OEMs are treating them anyways. After my new iPad I decided to get an iPhone (I have always had two devices as I use my main device for personal things and my secondary for a side business I run with my brother and I didnt want customers having my personal line. I dont usually bring both with me every day except now). The iPhone was great and a good change, but Siri is the main reason I use it (and the other reasons I posted above).
Sorry this is so long. I dont blame ya if you dont read it lol. Have a great night and like I said if your still on the fence about the N7 just get it you wont regret it.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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tyrellcorpnexus said:
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I am glad we had a chance to converse as well (even though I am sure that most others on this thread are bored lol). Its interesting to me as we are almost exactly opposite. Your coming from primarily iOS to Google's Android (dont even bother yourself with the skinned kind its no where near the same and will only frusterate you) and I'm coming from all Android to iOS. Whats more interesting is finding someone that is open to both sides of the fence. You dont find that often, but I wish others would try something before bashing an OS because of their love for another OS. You really miss out on some great tech and it took me going from one to the other to find that out.
Both OS have very great features and I wish I could just have one device that had all features, but we all know without competition neither Android or iOS would be what they are today. I'm kind of in dangerous territory right now as like I said I am heavily invested in both OS's. I really couldnt ever completely get rid of Android as I would miss the native Gmail application and especially the Google Maps. I havent really mentioned that, but your right it really is Android's killer feature and even though Apple is on the horizon of launching their own turn-by-turn solution I have doubts that it will be anywhere as good as Google Maps.
The main reason I use both devices right now is because I feel like I have to. The Nexus 7 has helped in that a little, but I need the LTE and the my Nexus' hotspot. I cant go back to 3G. It doesnt bother me a whole lot on the iPhone, but on my iPad or Nexus 7 I just feel like I have to have it. I know there are more less costly and convenient options than taking both the 4s for its phone, texting, music, siri, etc and my Nexus for Gmail, Google Maps, LTE, bigger display, rooting/roms, tinkering, openness, etc, but until a better solution comes a long I'm going to have to do just that. Also, like I said I do need both phones as I dont want to mix personal with business as that doesnt work too well especially when working full time and going to school 3/4 time, and then having a secondary business we run (even though the latter is suffering as I just dont have the time). All I know is that I am driving my wife completely nuts with all these devices lol.
Have a good night like I said its been interesting chatting with ya. Its rare to find someone on XDA that is even open to hearing about iOS even with the popularity of the iPad. I just hope that popularity brings more open people that arent so devoted to one brand that they completely refuse to listen to anything without feeling like they have to defend their phone or tablet choice to the death.
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"The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about."
I completely noticed I didnt even mention your concern about the above. This is exactly my only real problem with the Nexus 7. On my iPad I honestly dont have any iPhone apps on it only tablet optimized applications and on Android you just cant do that. The 7 inch form factor really makes this much easier to deal with. Even apps that are made for Android phones seem to work really well on the Nexus 7. There is still the lack of applications to deal with, but if you are like me you will most likely use your iPad for most applications anyway especially considering you can only get a measly 8 or 16gb on the Nexus 7. My justification of getting the N7 when I really cannot find a single fault with my iPad was that I read a lot and it is difficult reading on the iPad. Its heavy, awkward, and I just found myself not doing it or using a book instead. It was a little depressing as one of the main reasons I got an iPad was for reading. The Nexus 7 completely fills this void. It is lite and perfect for reading and is about the size of a smaller paperback book. The resolution is good enough not to bother you or give me headaches and it hard to put your finger on it, but it just feels right. I really like the seven inch form factor and I have found usages that I never even thought I would use. I loaded it up with emulators and it is perfect for those and about the only thing I really missed on my Xoom and Prime. Also I still have my OTG micro usb to USB cable I bought for my Xoom (I knew I kept it for a reason) and I can use it to hook up a PS3 controller to it and map the keys for emulators. It is great. One more thing I noticed as well. Loving my iPad means that I take it with me everywhere including work. I was always worried about dropping it or getting it stolen and it is kind of expensive. The Nexus 7 on the other hand is small (even fits in my back pocket or cargo shorts), easy to carry, and best of all is cheap enough that if I lost it or it was stolen I could recoup my losses and/or get me another one. Sure there are times at work on break or something that I wish I had my iPad, but the Nexus 7 does its job so well I often dont really care. I also rely heavily on a few apps like Dropbox, Twitter, and especially Evernote and the 7 inch form factor works excellent for all three and I am in sync with my iPad, Nexus 7, Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S, and Galaxy Nexus no matter where I am. Do yourself a favor and order one you wont regret it.

Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
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Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.
Nexus 7 so far looking good.