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just purchased a sprint htc hero im wondering what are the advantages or disadvantages on changing the roms and can someone help me in chosing and installing a new rom
Themes. Tethering. Improve battery life and signal. Improve overall speed. New 2.1 features. And VARIETY! Just to name a few...
The advantages are many...it's fun to see what other people come up with, exciting to find new features, cool to check out many different awesome themes....
Disavantages....on occasion you have to wipe going from one rom to the next (but that can be fun too)
.....what ROM to choose, that is going to be up to you and what you like in a ROM....from all the ones you test out on your HERO!!!!
Do some reading and ROM searches my friend, you'll be surprised at all the good stuff you find
And all the info you'll need is at the top of the forum.
Here -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618874
And here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618867
No one can help you chose a rom, it's a personal choice and frankly there are so many to chose from you'll get at least 5 different answers from 10 people.
The advantages are you will get much better performance out of your device and unlock potential that the average person would never know exists. Sprint bogs the thing down with so much crap you would be AMAZED at how much better it will operate when it's all cleaned up Also you can do things like wifi tether (true) and enable the built in light saber (false)
The disadvantage is learning about this stuff and doing it for yourself is so fascinating and fun if you're not careful it will quickly take over every aspect of your life (true)
There are plenty of guides from getting started for total noobs to things like compiling kernel from source code. Check out the guides wiki at the top of the forum, it' one of the stickies. First thing you will do is "root" and backup your phone, then you're pretty much good to do whatever you want and as long as you don't flash a GSM rom on your CDMA hero anything you do after you make a nandroid backup is reversible.
Welcome to xda, have fun!
*edit- LOL, there's a few of us up late tonight I see!
I finally decided to use custom ROM because I got sick of waiting for Sprint to release 2.1 update. There is all sorts of software out now that just runs on 2.1, Google Navigate was the big one for me.
Since I upgraded, there has been other things, speed, the ability to install a virtually unlimited set of apps, live wallpapers, swype keyboard, these are the big things i Like. Edit: Oh and wifi tethering is huge!!
There are some problems right now, you cant have everything at once. and it will take some time playing around to get what works best for you.
One other thing to consider is that when Sprint rolls out the 2.1 update over the air, you may lose the ability to root your phone. You can root now, and when the update comes out, someone here will make a rom from it and that way you will guarantee the ability to have root and still have latest stock sprint/htc software.
nebenezer said:
The disadvantage is learning about this stuff and doing it for yourself is so fascinating and fun if you're not careful it will quickly take over every aspect of your life (true)
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Haha very true Sometimes i think to myself; xda is a drug.
Some more stuff you can read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4258574&postcount=1
and this to save yourself from flaming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6271277&postcount=1
jcruz13 said:
just purchased a sprint htc hero im wondering what are the advantages or disadvantages on changing the roms and can someone help me in chosing and installing a new rom
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This is a good step by step guide I used to root my phone. Also A good rom with everything working is fresh 2.0d without overclock but with the updates. You'll get live wallpapers wait just read what he wrote
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This is a good step by step guide I used to root my phone. Also A good rom with everything working is fresh 2.0d without overclock but with the updates. You'll get live wallpapers wait just read what he wrote
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themed regaw for me
thatguythatdid said:
This is a good step by step guide I used to root my phone. Also A good rom with everything working is fresh 2.0d without overclock but with the updates. You'll get live wallpapers wait just read what he wrote
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Agreed, there are several methods to rooting but you cant go wrong doing it the old fashioned way. You get some great exposure to the inside of your phone and TTG wrote a very good guide. Just follow the steps.
Also in that guide he has a link to the 1.5.2 recovery image, thats a little outdated, you want RA's 1.6.2 found HERE, scroll about 2/3 down the page and choose one of the 4, doesn't matter which, the only difference in them is cosmetic.
nebenezer said:
Also you can do things like wifi tether (true) and enable the built in light saber (false)
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Just because you haven't found it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Ask me some time about my impromptu circumcision and why I always disable the menu-menu-to-unlock feature.
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Just because you haven't found it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Ask me some time about my impromptu circumcision and why I always disable the menu-menu-to-unlock feature.
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Damn, light saber app killed the Aardvark huh? I never thought anyone would get hurt when I wrote that app....sorry.
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...
What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.
Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.
What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
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I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.
Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
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I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy
abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.
Hey guys. Just got a captivate a few days ago and I love it except for the gps. I was just wondering if the leaked build of froyo improves the gps at all and if its worth updating before they release the official one. If so, where can I find the latest version of the leaked build? Thank you for any help.
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The leaked Froyo does not necessarily improve on GPS because many people don't have issues where many people do. Give it a shot and search different methods of changing your LBStestmode settings to see what works. Second, for me it was worth installing as 2.2 offers stuff you cant have on 2.1 such as the newer Gmail, flash 10.1 and other goodies. It is faster as well. Search the threads in the Dev section for different ROM's and how to flash. Ask questions about flashing after doing exhaustive searching because you will be able to find most answers in those threads.
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The leaked Froyo does not necessarily improve on GPS because many people don't have issues where many people do. Give it a shot and search different methods of changing your LBStestmode settings to see what works. Second, for me it was worth installing as 2.2 offers stuff you cant have on 2.1 such as the newer Gmail, flash 10.1 and other goodies. It is faster as well. Search the threads in the Dev section for different ROM's and how to flash. Ask questions about flashing after doing exhaustive searching because you will be able to find most answers in those threads.
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x2...makes the phone 100x better.
Cognition 2.2 Beta 9.1.1
Grab this and never look back.
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I'm kinda on the fence about this as well. I should be getting my Captivate tomorrow and I have been doing a crap ton of research in the past few days. Everything I have read points to either the "Official Leaked Froyo 2.2" or the newest "Cognition v2.2 BETA9.1.1". My only concern is the known issues that are listed on the Cognition website...
MMS won't work if you have "(" or ")" in your phone numbers
Contact groups sometimes opens the wrong group, you can fix this by replacing it with an I9K contacts.apk, but then you lose AT&T contact syncing
No Voodoo voices, supercurio is working on this (first boot will take awhile, be patient!)
Everyone has the same device_id
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Is this true with both builds listed or just with the Cognition v2.2 BETA9.1.1? I'm also completely new to Android being that I am a fomer iPhone junkie. So any help, how-to's, or info would be appreciated. In all honesty I was going to start here, youtube.com/watch?v=S9YnSVvfHpQ and if that wasn't successful go ahead and try Cognition. I'm just the type of person that likes to have things working properly and fast, like everyone else.
And for those wondering why I have been a member for over two and a half years and this is my first post, I have usually been able to find what I need and not had to ask questions.
I would point out that DesignGears has a perfectly rockin' cognition for eclair too. My first flash was 2.1.4 and it was amazing compared to stock eclair.
nothing really helps the gps, you either got it good, or not. (much research into that opinion btw.)
Cog 8.1+ is the shiz atm.
There's a couple of other froyo flavors also. I wouldn't go back to eclair at this point.
If nothin' else, it's a crap ton of fun flashin' and figuring stuff out. I'd do it just for that.
Not sure on MMS. I had no problems with it, but my numbers were already formatted without the parenthesis.
The ability to do these type of things is what lead me to the Android platform over the iPhone OS, it's just too locked down even with it being jailbroken IMHO. I'm just basically looking for a point of refferance I suppose. Basically the things to do and not to do to the phone you know. For me it's more of a challenge because I'm learning something new. I don't know if it's because I'm not looking in the right places or what but it seems like step by step guides are hard to come by regarding this stuff.
unless you use the i9000 ROM with captivate kernel, all Captivate Froyo builds are based off the captivate beta of Froyo.
It had a enough bugs that i rolled back to 2.1. Don't get me wrong, it is stable - but I figure i will wait for a more bug free beta to be the basis of my Froyo jump.
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The ability to do these type of things is what lead me to the Android platform over the iPhone OS, it's just too locked down even with it being jailbroken IMHO. I'm just basically looking for a point of refferance I suppose. Basically the things to do and not to do to the phone you know. For me it's more of a challenge because I'm learning something new. I don't know if it's because I'm not looking in the right places or what but it seems like step by step guides are hard to come by regarding this stuff.
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Not so much. You just gotta be patient and diligent. There's a couple of gems laying around but they are usually in the middle of a thread. The cognition thread for example. It's a beast to keep up with but given time you can digest most of what you need there. And there are plenty of links throughout that will clarify or intimidate as your experience and skill allow. Trouble is there's a TON of junk because people get impatient, or lazy I guess. Same questions, over and over.
I came to the captivate from a blackberry. Not much customization goin' on there. So as a stone noob, I read the cognition thread from post 1. All of it. I am a pretty confident android operator now. And I can't read nor write a line of code. In any language!
And you can too. Get busy, Grasshopper.
If you live on campus or rely on some sort of enterprise WIFI then go to froyo. Using eclair I could NEVER connect to the wifi at my school. It would say that I was connected of course but no data would transfer.
I switched to Froyo and haven't had problems since.
Also, my GPS is rockin!
alphadog, what "bugs" did you have when using Froyo? And what you mentioned is a lot of where my confusion comes into play, "kernals and ROMs" are like greek to me and I have no idea what they are or what the difference is between the two.
Sulphur, thanks so much for the advice. I'm gonna go check out the Cognition thread now and see what I can dig up. That's really what I needed, just a starting point. I'm thinking as of now I will go with the latest Cognition build for a bit and see how that goes.
DirtyRasa, no campus here but I do rely on wi-fi pretty heavily. I use it at home all the time to cut down on charges to my bill for data usage, so that's good to know. Just curious though, are you using the leaked Froyo or the Cognition build? And if you have had both which one do you prefer?
cybercowboy, wasn't trying to jack your thread or anything but I was in search of the same info as well.
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And for those wondering why I have been a member for over two and a half years and this is my first post, I have usually been able to find what I need and not had to ask questions.
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More power to you. I see tons of people on here less than a month with hundreds of posts more than me.
-->Back on topic. YES go with Froyo! There are many options available, but for noobs, i'd reccomend the either a DG ROM or the leaked and tweaked.
Thats no problem mindburn. The more information the better. I actually flashed to the leaked froyo last night and so far so good. Gps is still horrible. I think im gonna try the cognition build tonight and see what I like better. Ill let you know.
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Thats no problem mindburn. The more information the better. I actually flashed to the leaked froyo last night and so far so good. Gps is still horrible. I think im gonna try the cognition build tonight and see what I like better. Ill let you know.
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Thanks man, almost sounds as though you are one step ahead of me actually. I get my phone tomorrow and I was going to actually try the leaked first and then cognition. Let me know how things turn out for you and I will in return do the same.
So I got the phone yesterday and let me say, when I got it out of the box I knew I was going to like it. This damn thing looks sexy as hell! Anyway, 10 minutes after I got it I had successfully upgraded to the leaked Froyo and rooted the phone. Everything is going fine and I haven't had any problems thus far. It is at times a little buggy but I have learned that if I kill some of the tasks, the speed seems to improve. I thought about try Cognition today but when I load it up, I've only got the odin.exe, PDA.tar, & PIT.pit. Do I have to have CSC & ETC file mentioned in the program as well? Also, what exactly are these things, I didn't have to do anything like this on the stock Froyo.
U should of done DG's AOSP beta 3! That's what I'm rocking and have had it for almost a month and its amazing! I wanted to use cognition but I read on ppl saying they had bugs or it just wasn't stable for them. But to each their own! Unfortunately when I last checked DG closed the thread on that ROM. Glad to know u got froyo going! I made the switch from an iPhone jailbroken to the captivate and it's amazing! I'm still new to android but u just gotta read everything and their r so many ppl who are willing to help!
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With the announcement of the official froyo coming out in about two weeks, i think i'll just stay where I'm at for right now. I don't wanna try and win the triathlon with only a week training.
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So I got the phone yesterday and let me say, when I got it out of the box I knew I was going to like it. This damn thing looks sexy as hell! Anyway, 10 minutes after I got it I had successfully upgraded to the leaked Froyo and rooted the phone. Everything is going fine and I haven't had any problems thus far. It is at times a little buggy but I have learned that if I kill some of the tasks, the speed seems to improve. I thought about try Cognition today but when I load it up, I've only got the odin.exe, PDA.tar, & PIT.pit. Do I have to have CSC & ETC file mentioned in the program as well? Also, what exactly are these things, I didn't have to do anything like this on the stock Froyo.
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The pda and pit file are all you need. he just put everything in those two files. Flashes just fine that way.
Just a quick update for everyone, I am now running the latest Cognition 2.2 BETA 9.1.3. And I *MOD EDIT* love it! This thing is super fast now, pretty amazing really. I also somewhat have my homescreens the way that I want them as well. Only questions to everyone now is what do you all run? What are your must have and go to applications? Like the best of the best kind of thing.
BTW Sulphur, thanks!
mindbuRn said:
Just a quick update for everyone, I am now running the latest Cognition 2.2 BETA 9.1.3. And I *MOD EDIT* love it! This thing is super fast now, pretty amazing really. I also somewhat have my homescreens the way that I want them as well. Only questions to everyone now is what do you all run? What are your must have and go to applications? Like the best of the best kind of thing.
BTW Sulphur, thanks!
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Glad to hear it and no problem. My must have's are Launcher Pro, Root Explorer, xda app, and silly as it sound, beautiful widgets. I dunno. Taste has no template.
so i have the infamous samsung moment. you wanna know what really sucks about it? i listened to grooveshark for 10 minutes today. 10 minutes! the battery was at 75% when i started. when i was done, it was at 50%! yes, ive flashed to stock, yes ive tried other roms, yes ive done it all. disabled JIT, had the barest rom ever, and i still cant get a good battery life. so im pretty much set on switching to a new phone. but i need to know what the downfalls of the hero are. is battery life horendous? does it get really hot when you leave it in your pocket? how functional are the 2.2 roms? how much can i optimize it? give me all the info possible, especially stuff about signal strength and battery life. and rooting too, how easy is that? it seems a little unnecassarily complicated on the moment... thanks
Skip the hero and get an epic or evo....or wait a few more weeks and see what else there is. Sprint has already forgotten about the hero.
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i have like no money. id love to get one of those, but i barely got the moment to begin with. im only 15 btw
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
the hero is a nice device. the 4g devices arent worth the premium. data will never be worth what they charge even WITHOUT the ten dollar upcharge on the terribly bulky epic or the over sized evo. no sense getting a 'flagship' device because they change constantly. soon we'll have dual core procs on these phones and even then, consumers wont be happy.
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
thesubliminaljuggalo said:
There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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tailsthecat3 said:
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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Your friend must have jacked up his evo because my wife has one and it blows my OC'ed hero out of the water (CM6.1). You especially notice the speed in the browser and the games that I download on it without permission.
I agree the $10 extra a month is hard to swallow. Just remember that 2 years is a long time to commit to an older phone.
Hero is a nice device. It is small and does not feel like a brick in your pocket. The battery life is not bad. I have not tried any battery tweaks, but with some minor tweaks, I can get anywhere between 18-24 hours on a full charge. The only time I have felt the phone get hot is while wireless tethering.
I got it new earlier this year and as time progressed, I was getting annoyed with some of it's shortcomings, due to the software provided by Sprint. It felt slow, could not utilize the SD card for apps and such. The last straw was when "The Powers" said they won't be giving the Hero any more Android updates...
So, I rooted it and put CM6 (stable). Since then, I have been feeling like a child with a whole new toy. It works amazing, plus no extra 4G surcharge... .
oh something else i thought of. i think the hero has multitouch, please confirm. does it also have flash player? if it doesnt have either, thats ok. the moment has neither
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yeah its got multi touch. it doesnt have full flash, officially anyway.
steve19137 said:
wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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What the battery tweak does is clock your CPU based on certain variables. You can set it's max and minimum limits whilest the phone is running on battery/USB power/AC power. Also, you can change it so it reduces the max CPU usage when the battery is below a certain percentage, as to suck the most time out of your battery.
I have my tweak settings maxed out at 729 mhz for any given variable and a min 176 mhz. My phone lasts all day and then some, for sure. I woke up with it at 75% (put it in airplane mode for the night because I was too lazy to find the charger) and currently it's at 55% after 8 1/2 hours of moderate use.
Results may vary, of course.
edit: I carry around an extra charged battery just in case. There's a Taiwanese vendor on eBay selling 2 spare batters + a wall charger (charges your external batteries without needing your phone with the option of USB charging as well) -- all for $12 or something. Definitely worth it and I think there's a post in the accessories forum with the link to it. Not sure if it died by now or not.
Good luck!
thanks for all this info guys! im cant wait to be able to get one of these things for myself!!! the hard part is the ebay bidding. i already lost 2 auctions that i was aiming for, trying for another one tonight, then done for the day. anywhere else that i might look to get an unlocked hero besides craigslist? i wont buy off there, no way.
EDIT: i finally won a hero off ebay!!! i got it for $110. i think thats a pretty good deal! but i was thinking about the rooting process, and i like the idea of a one click root, but i need a little more info. does the one click root install a recovery also? if it doesnt, is it possible that ROM Manager works with the Hero, and i can install clockwork recovery? i really appreciate all your info guys. thanks a bunch
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything im looking for the one click root that was spoke of earlier in the thread. can someone link me to it?
also, is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
EDIT: wait a second... does http://unrevoked.com/original/ really work? can someone confirm this for me?
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
thesubliminaljuggalo said:
The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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its not a palm... its a samsung moment that would quite peculiar if i tried to bring a webos backup to android... but i probably will start over. i have a bunch of crap on my phone anyhow. it would be a good thing.
winter128 said:
Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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oh boy! thats alot of stuff! thanks alot for that! i didnt know xda had a wiki... but then again, sdx has one too, so i should have known.
winter128 said:
Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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yep, i read about the OTA updates to block the rooting. but take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910). this implies that you can root the .6 OTA. is that a typo, or legit? the wiki link above also says that .6 is rootable. i know how to downgrade if necessary, though. as far as the unrevoked rooting, i was right then! unrevoked then rom manager will do the trick? awesome thats way easy. and i know that i change recoveries within rom manager... i think im set guys! thanks alot for all your help. ill be sitting on that wiki link for a while. im gonna read all i can before my hero comes im super duper excited!!! and i will have fun!!! i plan on flashing CM6 anyhow
.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
stayclean said:
.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
steve19137 said:
how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
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In the Development section, check for the Easy Root thread. Takes about 3 minutes.
I'm with the stock LG ROM on the LG Thrill.
Can I do something to make my phone faster.
Yes roms and the right tweaks and this phone is awesome
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A custom ROM will make your phone run faster. There are you can tweak the build.prop and other things like scripts to improve the phone as well. Right now I just flashed the Mokee v1.0 ROM and it is the best ROM I have ever used on this phone. I would definitely recommend getting a CM7 ROM as long as you don't care about 3D and HDMI as they are broken currently with CM7.
I find the phone quite snappy, but then again I'm coming from a Samsung Epic. That phone was good but is getting very long in the tooth. I'm using Thrillseeker 2.1 on mine and so far I can say yes, it does improve the phone's speed. Next on the to try list is CM7(which is downloading on my phone as we speak). It's a boring day at work, might as well be productive, right?
N3M3S1S357 said:
I find the phone quite snappy, but then again I'm coming from a Samsung Epic. That phone was good but is getting very long in the tooth. I'm using Thrillseeker 2.1 on mine and so far I can say yes, it does improve the phone's speed. Next on the to try list is CM7(which is downloading on my phone as we speak). It's a boring day at work, might as well be productive, right?
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The right kernel is really all you need ... But you need to know about basebands also if you wanna get into that .. if you wanna keep it simple just download a few different roms and see what works best for you
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WattB006 said:
A custom ROM will make your phone run faster. There are you can tweak the build.prop and other things like scripts to improve the phone as well. Right now I just flashed the Mokee v1.0 ROM and it is the best ROM I have ever used on this phone. I would definitely recommend getting a CM7 ROM as long as you don't care about 3D and HDMI as they are broken currently with CM7.
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hi dude can you explain further about that scripts and how to usw that? tnx a lot dude
Actually, I've been fighting this for a while.
Sometimes the phone is blazing, other times it chugs like molasses.
I've slowly chipped away at the issues, because it's obvious not everybody has these issues, but considering how many times I've tried custom ROMs and kernels, and nothing fixes it, it has to be something I'm running.
Over time, I got rid of Folder Organizer, because that seemed to make it chug. The device seems to have very little RAM and it goes REALLY slow when it's close to full. I also tried things like deleting the downloaded files for the GameLoft titles to speed up the media search on boot. (Less files searched, less RAM used, right?)
Recently one change I made that seemed to help IMMENSELY was uninstalling SwiftKey. I'd LOVE if I could get some help confirming. The circle-swipe to unlock seems much smoother, even after a day, after getting rid of SwiftKey. I'm guessing it just used too much RAM.
At this point, I'd be at a lost otherwise. I changed launchers and used CPU monitors to see what's using up all the CPU, but came up empty.
Additionally, if you haven't tried using Seeder, I'd install that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032