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Android 2.1 Performance

I've been stuck on a 1.6 version ROM for a long time now, and honestly the extra features in 2.1 don't really appeal to me all that much, however, my favorite theme, DarkStar, no longer is supporting the SuperD line of version 1.6 ROMs and are likely going to be incompatible with any future version 1.6 ROM updates, this theme however is available for Cyanogen 5.0.7, but this is a version 2.1 ROM. I want to know how the performance is on this ROM in comparison to a 1.6 ROM, because I know most if not all devices running 2.1 have substantially more RAM and occasionally a faster processor too. Speed is a pretty big deal to me, and I am slightly hesitant to switch to Cyanogen because in the past I have tried a Cyanogen ROM around 3 times, and each time it would start out fast then turn unusable slow after a couple weeks, along with that it would drop text messages and not be able to receive MMS at all [dropping them]. That however is in the past, so i was just wondering if I could get some input on this, because if 2.1 is even a hair slower than 1.6, then I am simply not interested.
EDIT: I do use my phone to text and make phone calls a lot therefore reliable is essential to me. However, even on the 1.6 ROM I am on (its the SuperD version 2 versions behind the current one, I havent updated because the theme i want isn't compatible) there are still a few bugs, especially with messaging. Several times a day it will just stop being able to send SMS messages, it will just say error every time, this can be fixed by restarting the application, however the problem is that even though it says error, sometimes the message does indeed go through even though it says it doesn't, which is a bit problematic as I don't know whether or not my friends have received the message or not, or if I should try resending it and end up looking a bit dumb sending multiple messages of the same thing.

Well, cyanogenmod 5 runs nicely. However, it's not stable (it's not supposed to be) and really isn't great as a daily driver. Considering you actually use and need your phone, I wouldn't use anything that's not stable. If you don't really ever need your phone/texting or not worried about some great disaster happening soon in the family or friend circle, try it out and report the bugs to help it improve. If you NEED your phone (like me - hint to the family/friend disaster example) I suggest saying with Donut until it becomes stable.
However, don't mistake me, it runs. Smoothly and effectively. There are some bugs, but all experimental builds are going to be buggy (all 2.1 ROMs are experimental in my view).
But, simply to answer topic at hand, yes it is quite fast and smooth. No need for swap (actually recommended that you don't use it) or task killers (ditto). =]
Edit: Compared to a 1.6 - to me, a LITTLE BIT faster. Not enough for me to risk using it. Of course, when it comes to the "speed" I go with feeling, not numbers.
Another edit: Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 is amazing. All his other ROMs were too slow for me as well, but this one really stepped it up.

r3s-rt said:
Well, cyanogenmod 5 runs nicely. However, it's not stable (it's supposed to be) and really isn't great as a daily driver. Considering you actually use and need your phone, I wouldn't use anything that's not stable. If you don't really ever need your phone/texting or not worried about some great disaster happening soon in the family or friend circle, try it out and report the bugs to help it improve. If you NEED your phone (like me - hint to the family/friend disaster example) I suggest saying with Donut until it becomes stable.
However, don't mistake me, it runs. Smoothly and effectively. There are some bugs, but all experimental builds are going to be buggy (all 2.1 ROMs are experimental in my view).
But, simply to answer topic at hand, yes it is quite fast and smooth. No need for swap (actually recommended that you don't use it) or task killers (ditto). =]
Edit: Compared to a 1.6 - to me, a LITTLE BIT faster. Not enough for me to risk using it. Of course, when it comes to the "speed" I go with feeling, not numbers.
Another edit: Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1 is amazing. All his other ROMs were too slow for me as well, but this one really stepped it up.
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ima slap you. haha cm5x's are test roms! its suppose to have bugs so the man cyanogen can fix them!

g1user101 said:
ima slap you. haha cm5x's are test roms! its suppose to have bugs so the man cyanogen can fix them!
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Opps, I meant NOT supposed to be. My mistake.

CM5 has been crazy stable for me. The speed is absolutely ridiculous compared to donut at least to me it does. It has a much newer and more upgraded kernel then donut (.29 vs .33.4). Cyanogen's kernels are even better then google's lol. I have not had a problem with text's, and it is just as stable for me as somewthing like Dwangs on 1.6. The only issues I had were with fast battery drain, but that problem is completely fixed now. Just try it, the worst that could happen to you is loosing maybe an hour, but trust me you wont regret it. Don't mess around with LWP or swap, they actually slow you down. Also try out the new Launcher pro from market, it's amazingly fast.

Custom roms are slooooooooooooooooow.....

I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?

What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...

What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.

Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.

What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
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I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.

abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.

I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet

thatjerk said:
I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.

Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em

wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4

illogic6 said:
Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.

illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?

illogic6 said:
Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy

abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.

Need help selecting ROM & OC Kernel

I apologize in advance for not researching this properly myself (in fact I'm usually doing stuff like this for other people), but I am simply overwhelmed by the plethora of information and unlimited posts of ROMs, OC kernels, and all that. I am no longer android retarded; That's for sure.
But I have a busy weekend here looking for an apartment and moving, and I just don't have the time (really) to sift through all this stuff! There's just too much! But in the meantime, the lag I am experiencing on the Hero is pissing me the **** off and I know it can be better, even "snappier" at 768.
I was hoping you guys would be able to give you opinion at the very least on this. I really wish you could just flash once and have everything set-up, but that would be too convenient. I would have to make sure the kernel doesn't break functionality, that the kernel actually works with the rom in the first place, flash the kernel, find a matching wifi module to match the damn kernel, flash the damn module... you get the picture.
So please guys, help me out here! I AM overwhelmed in every sense of the word, and I need your help.
1. Opinions on most stable ROM with most features.
2. Recs for an OC Kernel that will work with it!
3. The wifi module to go along with it.
4. Anything else I'm forgetting...
Thanks in advance and I apologize again for not doing it on my own. I just can't...lol.
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May the time always be 4:20... wherever you are.

Word - subscribed. Just bought a Hero for my gf, trying to get it proper, but man, I used to do this with HTC WinMo phones, and this is the exact reason I went to iPhone platform - too much reading, maintenance, reflashing etc (read: TIME) to get the phone to work the way you want. So, I opted to just lose any choice or control over the matter and have a phone that works fine enough and has good app ecosystem
But, I want to get her phone at least fast and stable (most important), I think I'm throwing 2.1 with the .6 update, and will just downgrade to root in the future if we really need wifi tether.
If there is some good info in this thread on which ROM and which kernel with minimum hackish patches etc to make it all work, then I'll go to that! I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.

I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267

kwheel596 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
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So is the method to root on 2.1 .5 version and then install this ROM over the top (which keeps your root)?

yep, you got it

Wow..
So I finally got some time to do even minimal research and came across these:
ZenHeroFX 2.0 ROM
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731951
Darchstar's Kernels
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I wiped everything (including battery *whatever*), flashed the rom, flashed the 768MHZ kernel, flashed the % battery meter, and the 2.0 update for the ROM. I never expected it to boot the first time... BUT IT DID! Holy ****! Really?
Now, after setting frequency with SetCPU this thing flies! I cannot describe the difference. Holy ****-BALLS! Finally no lag at all, not even at the keyboard. And no overheating. I couldn't have asked for a more perfect flash!
DrunkenOstrich: This is the perfect setup for you! It worked the first try for me with no issues at all. Just follow the directions step-by-step and you will be good! Also, don't trip out on how long it takes to boot or if it's slow at first. Give it a few minutes to sync up and everything will be badass.
God I feel like such a noob after proofreading this post. lol.

wow... thanks
Ok... thank you so much for doing this. I am in the same boat as you as far as time to research everything goes. I had rooted my 1.5 hero last november and recently upgraded to 2.1. Just reverted to .5 so I could root but was totally lost as far as what ROM would keep me as close to stock as possible.
My goals were to find a ROM that allows me to 1)remove some bloatware, 2) overclock, 3) possibly wifi tether and 4) further improve battery life. I just didnt want to lose any functionality since I really love the hero. Only thing is since this upgrade, it's a slug. OP, Do you think using the ROM/Kernel pair you installed I'd be happy considering my goals?

there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.

theresthatguy said:
there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.
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agreed... going to root later on tonight and i'll try both... looking forward to no more lag and some fresh new changes to the UI

Thought I would get more of a performance boost... installed SetCPU and tweaked some settings and its a little better
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most stock rom with some enhancements

Hi guys, i used the search button but was unsuccessful. I was wondering out off all these cooked ROMS which one comes with the most basic stable experience but with some cooked enhancements in it.mainly i care about is battery life, i want it to be at least par with stock battery life....coming off a g1 and switching from ROM to ROM made me so addicted which i ended up switching everyday...but at the end I ended up using cyanogen because it was so stable and vanilla that nothing beat it. So im looking for cyanogen kinda based ROM on the captivate because the carriers are taking forever to release 2.2. thank you for looking.

Um.. I'm going to say the most "stock" ROM with enhancements... is designgears Cognition.
There are a few others out there that are stripped down to run fast - but IMO his is the closest to what a "Stock" samsung ROM should run and look like.

yes thank you for the good jump start! have you used it personally? im not picky at all so all opinions are great!!

I have used Cognition for a long time and I have always enjoyed DG's work.
I'm currently running Serendipity because I like to try the different ROM's out there.

Simpfinity is as close to stock as you can practically get. Barely any enhancements, just much less bloat--but it isn't taken to the extremes of, say, Precision, that are barely usable after a straight flash.

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Simpfinity is as close to stock as you can practically get. Barely any enhancements, just much less bloat--but it isn't taken to the extremes of, say, Precision, that are barely usable after a straight flash.
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Precision barely usable? How so?
I'm running the Precision/Suckerpunch combo and I have to say it's pretty amazing. It's the smoothest I've had my phone run since I bought it, and so far the battery life seems to be just as good (though I haven't given it very many charge cycles since I flashed.)

my question... whats the point of flashing a barely changed rom? bloatware can be uninstalled from system apps, new camera apk can be added, slightly optimized kernel. DONE.\

pizz0wn3d said:
Precision barely usable? How so?
I'm running the Precision/Suckerpunch combo and I have to say it's pretty amazing. It's the smoothest I've had my phone run since I bought it, and so far the battery life seems to be just as good (though I haven't given it very many charge cycles since I flashed.)
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I found that I had to manually install a lot of 'bare essentials' apps/services after a fresh Precision flash.
Trusselo said:
my question... whats the point of flashing a barely changed rom? bloatware can be uninstalled from system apps, new camera apk can be added, slightly optimized kernel. DONE.\
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There is a lot of bloatware on a fresh phone, and not just the stuff that appears in the app drawer, but also background services and the such. Yes you can remove it yourself, but I didn't feel like going through a list of a couple hundred obfuscated filenames and googl'ing each to find out what it does.

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I found that I had to manually install a lot of 'bare essentials' apps/services after a fresh Precision flash.
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Eh. Then the rom isn't what you're looking for. The only thing I added back in was the google quick search and the widget organizer. I love how many useless services and other boat it gets rid of. It's the smoothest rom I've used so far.
Herp Derp Captivate XDA

I just took the plunge and flashed Andromeda 1.2. It looks almost every bit like stock Eclair with Froyo enhancements and no bloat. Running smooth since Sunday and very happy with it.

Is rooting worth it?

When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.

I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config

In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.

If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.

oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then

davidcampbell said:
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .

Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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rawb123456 said:
That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521

here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha

jherbold said:
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.

Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go