hello there...
i have a Question about how to explore the internal memory (2GB) from the device .. is there any software can help with that?
Use a file explorer or terminal emulator of your choice and navigate to the /data folder. This is your 2GB of internal storage.
May we reduce size of internal phone memo (2gb) > to 1gb? And give that 1Gb to SDcard capacity, because 2gb never fill (for me at least)
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It seems to me that the memory layout on the Captivate isn't in line with other Android devices.
Looking at the specs of the Captivate on www.google.com/phone I am seeing:
RAM: 512 MB
Internal Storage: 16000 MB
Yet in looking at "SD card and phone storage" in settings I see.
Internal phone storage, Available space: 1.60 GB
Internal SD card: 13.03 GB
It seems to me that the 16000 MB is partitioned so here are my questions.
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
And in a broader sense...
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
I'm not sure, but of that internal 16gb of storage space, is it merely partitioning a section of that away for the OS?
That is my question. I don't understand the memory model.
This might not be accurate since I don't own an android phone but i'm bored
1) Where is the 512 MB and what is it for?
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System Ram, used by the OS and apps as volatile memory.
2) Why is it if I install some app that is supposed to show me external SD usage it always instead shows that 13 GB internal flash volume?
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Because the 13gb volume is the "general" volume where you can personally store whatever you want, it functions just like an external Sd card would.
3) What is the general memory model for Android? I see RAM, Internal, External. What are they all for?
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Ram - It is for the OS and apps, they need that as volatile storage to function, nothing is really stored there in the long term, the OS manages that so don't worry about it.
Internal memory - This used for many things, app install and to store files like music, pictures, etc. Internal memory is usually partitioned so that you only have a set amount (probalby that 1.60 you see ) for apps install and the rest if for whatever you want(the 13gb).
External memory - That is just an SD card you can use to expand your internal memory, right now (Android 2.1) it only works to add more space for files(music, photos, docs,) but with with froyo (android 2.2) you'll be able to move installed apps to this external (and the internal 13gb) drive.
Ok here's how it's laid out.
Yes, we have 512MB of RAM. However we as the end user will only see around 300MB of that, give or take 20MB. That's because some of it used by the OS and the GPU for different tasks.
That 16GB of internal storage you see, is partitioned off. We actually get around 13GB to use for ourselves. That 1.6GB you also see starts off as around 2GB (I would assume), and the rest used by the system for the OS, apps, cache, etc...
It's just like a hard drive on a computer in that respect. Sure you but a 1TB hard drive, but you actually only get to use around 850GB of it due to formatting and whatnot.
My problem is that I cant install apps in the 13gb partition, I dont know why..
I tried with:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 this is Auto mode but.. installs in 1.8 partition
..........................................1 this install on the 1.8 partition
..........................................2 this install on the sd card
..........................................3 doesent exist xD but i tried..
so does exist any way to install apps for default in the 13.3 internal SD card partition, or any way to errase the partition??..
Try using "apps2sd" from market. It should be app2sd or apps2sd.
But I don't understand the need to do this, given that Captivate has one of the best memory amounts allocated for system.
Also note that, the apps on SD won't be available during the times when apps like "media scanner" are running.
I am indeed a noob that's learning.
So with studying, I see a lot of "External SD Storage" and "Internal Storage".
With the captivate, there's three places of storage. I understand that Ext. SD is my SD card, and Internal SD is the phone's memory... but what is Internal Phone Storage used for?
Also, any tips on manipulating it?
Thanks in advance
-Zane
The 2gb internal storage is for user apps.
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and Internal SD is the phone's memory...
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memory is NOT storage space. Memory is ram.
I thought internal SD was for user apps, since that's where all my apps are downloaded to.
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No...internal sd is around 13gb and is where your main storage is. (what gets mounted to your PC for file transfer and stuff)
apps are installed in /data/app which is in that 2gb partition.
A way that helps me to understand it is to think that you have a 16 gb drive in your phone. There are two partitions on it - a 3 gb partition that houses all the system stuff (including "internal storage"), and a 13 gb "internal sd" that's yours to do with as you please.
Ok that makes so much more sense. I shouldn't have thought about apps and their data being in an entire package.
so when I'm given the option to move an app from phone to SD, is it referring to the Phone's internal SD?
Nope, move to sd is to your external sdcard.
A bit weird to me, nevertheless I have my answers ^_^
Thank you all for the speedy replies and information (and putting up with my noobness).
How can I make an app install onto sdcard2 instead of the internal storage (named as sdcard)? I have a few games that require large files and I would like to keep them on my 32gb sdcard rather than the internal one. Any help would be appreciated.
Apps2SD
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TitaniumBackup has that feature as well, just long press the app you want moved.
The app does not differentiate between the internal memory and the external SD card. It only allows apps to be moved to the internal storage. The problem lies with the fact that the internal storage is named "sdcard" which then means that apps automatically install their data to it instead of the actual external microsd
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The app does not differentiate between the internal memory and the external SD card. It only allows apps to be moved to the internal storage. The problem lies with the fact that the internal storage is named "sdcard" which then means that apps automatically install their data to it instead of the actual external microsd
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You are very right on that statement, but it has to be some sort of app that move applications from internal memory (sdcard in this case) to the external memory (sdcard2)
When I open file explorer in android I open the folder 'sdcard' and inside it contains the folder 'sdcard2' and basically sdcard2 is empty unless you copy/move files manually to it.
I have 16GB on sdcard2 and 4GB on sdcard and I'm running out of space on sdcard with not knowledge on how to move some big apps to sdcard2.
what is the obsession with app2sd?
this phone has 4 GIGABYTES of internal storage dedicated to apps and data.
i have never once had any urge to run apps from sdcard....i just dont get it
Hi, i have a problem with installing apps, my internal storage is only 2gb and it runs out od memory, every time i need install big application i need to move all apps in internal mmc manually. So do you have any EASY solution to make my internal mmc my default storage for application?? Pls pls thanks!
guys,
does your phone have this also?
mine has 848mb free space, (image1)
and it differs from internal storage free which has 7gig free (image2)
and external sd with 4.6gig free (image3)
cause i have a problem on the reading of the free mb on internal storage on my pc (6gig free) and my phone (7gig free). (image 4 and 5)
well i can still copy files to internal sdcard but once the reading on my pc reach 0mb but when in fact i still have 1gig free on phone i cant copy
data. so what i did is copy on external sdcard and with root explorer move the files to internal memory.
another problem is that when the pc reads my internal memory to 0mb i cant import contacts cause it says full memory.
when in fact that i still have 1gig memory.
i have this problem on .290, .257 and .534 firmware
but the difference in reading is decrease from .290=1gig, .257=600mb, and .534=200mb (pc vs.phone reading).