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about bluetooth gps receivers

i plan to buy a bluetooth gps receiver.
i just have some question before buying one
- will any bluetooth gps receiver work with niki? are there known receivers that will not work?
- i currently have a mapking software on niki and a map of my city, is the bluetooth gps receiver all i need for it to work? by work i mean it'll tell you where you are, where to go, etc...
thanks!

I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).

dekoning said:
I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).
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looks nice thanks dude! i'll consider that brand, i hope they sell it in taiwan

my holux GPS (i forget the number) works great.

i use this : http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289&currency=GBP
solar powered sirf iii on my copilot7, all good

I use an Oasis BT GPS, wich are no longer available under that brand name but it works perfect with my downloaded tom tom software
you can find a lot on pdashop.be
succes!!

I use a Globalsat BT-338 and its wonderful.

I like the idea of a solar powered bluetooth gps
anyways thanks guys! will check out those you suggested! buying one tom

Navman B10
I just paired a NAVMAN B10 the $35 special from Expansys US. It is a SIRFIII and so far it works awesome. Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....

kipmast said:
Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....
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maybe made in China? lol

Can I use these with Google Map? I mean that I don't need TomTom or another program at all?

I use this, "http://www.bluenext.co.uk/bluetooth-gps/bn-806f-bluetooth-gps.html"
works real good, it's real fast, good battery and have the last chip sirf star III, and of course all this for a good price

How to setup
Could someone tell me how to setup GPS connection over Bluetooth? I have a Nokia GPS which was working on normal HTC Touch and I just can't get it work on Nike... This is what I did:
1. Turn on GPS
2. Turn on Bluetooth on Nike
3. Search for BT device, Nokia is found
4. Enter code
5. Select serial port (the only port offered)
6. I create an outgoing port (e.g. COM2) for Nokia (in settings/connections/setting/bluetooth)
7. I set GPS program port to the previously created outgoing port in setting/system/External GPS)
8. I set GPS port number in iGO...
What did I wrong? Please help me.
Thank you in advance

That's all correct. I can't see what's the problem there.

Me neither... On my old iPaq (WinMo 2003) is a lot easier to connect as there is a connect feature in Bluetooth manager. In WinMo 2006 there is no such possibility... How can a bluetooth connection to GPS initialized without iGO? How could I connect from Windows to test the connection?

mapping software
i live in the us where can i get a free mapping software with map? because i dont want to access any data...

Has anyone tried BT or USB GPS receivers w/Athena?

Yes, the Athena has built-in GPS. But compared to other phones and stand-alone units, the GPS receiver is weak (and not sirf star). My old Palm with a wired external sirf star GPS receiver is way better - locks on in seconds from the middle of the first floor of my house.
So, has anyone here tried a bluetooth or USB GPS receiver?

Yes, I tried Holox Bluetooth GPS receiver, it works just fine and as this is 44 channels it is more powerful (It connects faster and better quality reception), I don't think you will have any problems with that, you just have to make sure that you change settings in you navigation software so that it connects the bluetooth one rather than the built in GPS receiver.

Thanks, I'm thinking of getting the Holux. That's what my wired GPS is. Then again, I might just get the 4-in-1 cable and try to use my wired Holux that I already have.
The built-in GPS failed me twice this past weekend when I really needed it, which is why I'm thinking of using an external receiver for road trips from now on.

I have the Dell BT332 (Globalsat) paired with the 7501 and it works
as well as it did with my Axim51v.

techntrek said:
Yes, the Athena has built-in GPS. But compared to other phones and stand-alone units, the GPS receiver is weak (and not sirf star). My old Palm with a wired external sirf star GPS receiver is way better - locks on in seconds from the middle of the first floor of my house.
So, has anyone here tried a bluetooth or USB GPS receiver?
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Another device to bring with you? Let's pray that when thief steals the phone, they take both devices with them so that your WIMP could still tell you where your phone is

A BT GPS receiver would stay in the car - plug it in, pair the BT, and forget it. When I'm in the car it would automatically connect. I would still use the built-in GPS (when it works) when walking.
I could still set WIMP to use the internal GPS...

techntrek said:
A BT GPS receiver would stay in the car - plug it in, pair the BT, and forget it. When I'm in the car it would automatically connect. I would still use the built-in GPS (when it works) when walking.
I could still set WIMP to use the internal GPS...
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You're right. I did'nt think of that.

eaglesteve said:
so that your WIMP could still tell you where your phone is
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What is WIMP?
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cktlcmd said:
What is WIMP?
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Where Is My Phone. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/

techntrek said:
Where Is My Phone. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
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thanks. WOW. that's one piece of software.
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cktlcmd said:
thanks. WOW. that's one piece of software.
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There are also other similar products, such as the Phone Theft Alarm by Carty Studio.
An even better alternative, doing a bit more than WIMP, is spb sprite terminator. Easy to google this. I like this the most.

eaglesteve said:
There are also other similar products, such as the Phone Theft Alarm by Carty Studio.
An even better alternative, doing a bit more than WIMP, is spb sprite terminator. Easy to google this. I like this the most.
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thanks. I'll look them up.

Err,
Sorry, it's Ultimate Theft Alert, not Phone theft alarm.

[Q] Crappy GPS receiver?

Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.

Search GPS aids in the market and install that. Works great.

Has anyone better experiences with car navigation
No problem with mine even get a good track if its in the glove box in the car .
But as has been said multiple posts on the subject worth reading if you have a problem GPS .
jje

TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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Buy an external GPS reciever. These can be picked up cheap enough on ebay/ Amazon etc See here for more info

I'm going to atrix due to crap gps on galaxy s
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TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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My experience is that the GPS IS that crappy, but if you use JPY, whilst I haven't tested it scientifically, it does seem as though it's usable enough.
Which firmware you using?
My advise though is to get an external receiver honestly (that's what I should do), because the only good feedback I've seen about the GPS NEVER includes tracks (and I have made tracks in the past, and they were rediculously horrific at some points compared to a forerunner).

Thanks for the answers. I think I'll try GPS Aids. Hopefully an external GPS won't be necessary...

I have exactly the same experiance as TNY0. GPS reacts very late and I am often on a different street. It makes SGS unusable for navigation in cities. I have tried various navigation software and all behaved in the same way, so it must be a hardware issue. I have also tried GPS Aids, it helps getting quicker fix, but does not solve inaccuracy of the GPS. I did complete wipe of the phone and installed Darkys v9.2 resurrection and than Darkys v9.3 beta3, but with no success, GPS remained crappy. :-(

If you want to mess with the GPS then their are a number of threads on here .
But i would go to rom kitchin and build new rom after reading modem and gps faqs if you are no better you can always change the modem .
Mine is excellent on JPY modem .
jje

Best results that I have seen were after installing these modified GPS daemon and settings files from Da_G on the Captivate forum. Difference was very noticeable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
Also, hardcore kernel helped as well.
Needed a rooted phone for either of these options.

[ROM][30.09.2011]CM nightly + integrated external BT GPS] Android 2.3.7!

Guys,
I've implemented the external BT GPS for the CM7. Until now I only supplied a I9000 rom and source code. Since vibrant users with CM7 suffers from GPS performance (lack of it ;-) )
new build with android 2.3.7!
http://iloki.nl/2011/09/30/android-237/
Installation is the same procedure as the CM nightlies. Only rom file is different.
Howto install

cool will give it a shot

gekkekoe123 said:
Guys,
I've implemented the external BT GPS for the CM7. Until now I only supplied a I9000 rom and source code. Since vibrant users with CM7 suffers from GPS performance (lack of it ;-) )
I've decided to build a rom also for vibrant users. Give it a try: http://iloki.nl/2011/08/06/update-06-08-2011/
Beware, I'm uncertain if vibrant uses the same bootloader as the I9000. Changing bootloader isn't required for GPS support and is NOT recommended for vibrant users.
for more background information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170031
Please try to centralize feedback in the background topic.
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Thank you! I love my Vibrant but GPS is a deal-breaker for me.
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This does not improve the internal GPS radio in any way. This just gives us a switch to enable a external Bluetooth GPS receiver natively without buggy 3rd party apps. This causes apps such as Google maps or navigation to be much more accurate due to the dedicated GPS receiver hardware. Using my GlobatSat BT-359 I have managed a app reported 0 accuracy and almost always below a 5 foot area. This pretty much makes the internal GPS cry like a newborn baby...
SkOrPn
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so you'll need something extra for this to work?

On the download page, you will find step by step instructions on how to use it.
Basically, flash the rom, pair your gps mouse and just enable/disable GPS (using power widget for example).
But read the instructions at: http://iloki.nl/2011/08/06/update-06-08-2011/
it has screenshots and stuff
My rom basically gives you a switch to use our BT gps mouse as if it were your internal GPS. So you will get maximum compatibility , less battery drain and so on. Normally external receivers are way better than the ones that comes with your phone. My gps mouse is giving me 0.8m-2.0m accuracy for example. I was happy if I had 10m on my internal one. Most of the time I could get a lock (already tried soldering and so on).
To use my stuff the requirements are:
Galaxy S I9000/Vibrant -> binary builds. Other devices can be built from source.
NMEA 0813 capable GPS Mouse with Bluetooth Serial Port Profile (SPP)

gekkekoe123 said:
NMEA 0813 capable GPS Mouse with Bluetooth Serial Port Profile (SPP)
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Does it matter what chipset is being used in the mouse? By the way, I call it a GPS Receiver, "mouse" sounds strange to me, lol....
My unit has the SiRF StarIII chip and is also NMEA 0183.
GPS Protocol Default: NMEA 0183 (Secondary: SiRF binary)
GPS Output Data: SiRF binary >> position, velocity, altitude, status and control
NMEA 0183 MEA0183 V2.2 protocol, and supports commands GGA, GSA, GSV, RMC, VTG, GLL v2.2 (VTG and GLL are optional)
GPS transfer rate: Software command setting (Default : 38400,n,8,1 for NMEA )
Connection: Communication with host platform via Bluetooth Serial Port Profile
Using the 3rd party app "Bluetooth GPS Provider" from the market, it lets me actually select my chip type, in this case SiRF. Does this even matter in this case?

Nope doesn't really matter as long as they output nmea sentences (I haven't seen one that didn't. But it doesn't hurt to check before buying).
I myself am using a MTK2 chipset.
btw: google GPS Mouse ;-)

gekkekoe123 said:
Nope doesn't really matter as long as they output nmea sentences (I haven't seen one that didn't. But it doesn't hurt to check before buying).
I myself am using a MTK2 chipset.
btw: google GPS Mouse ;-)
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Yeah I already knew its called a mouse, I was just commenting that I do not like it. Its a GPS satelite receiver, or even a Wireless BT GPS puck would have been more appropriate I think... Come to think about it, mine is slightly smaller than a ice hockey puck but rectangled and very heavy for its size. I could easily play ice hockey with it, LOL....
Ok, so good NMEA support is all we need to worry about then. Most excellent...
EDIT: I hear MTK is better than SiRF, but not sure myself...

Synced with the low power mode patches.
new vibrant rom available.

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gekkekoe123 said:
Guys,
I've implemented the external BT GPS for the CM7. Until now I only supplied a I9000 rom and source code. Since vibrant users with CM7 suffers from GPS performance (lack of it ;-) )
I've decided to build a rom also for vibrant users. Give it a try: http://iloki.nl/2011/08/06/update-06-08-2011/
Beware, I'm uncertain if vibrant uses the same bootloader as the I9000. Changing bootloader isn't required for GPS support and is NOT recommended for vibrant users.
for more background information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170031
Please try to centralize feedback in the background topic.
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Thanks for your developments and this post, seems to have a great feature for the Vibrant users like my self, if I could understand your post....
External BT GPS...... If I had an external GPS, why would I use my phone....
External BT mouse . . . . this is not clear to me....
This post is just asking for more clarity.. ..

serendipityguy said:
Thanks for your developments and this post, seems to have a great feature for the Vibrant users like my self, if I could understand your post....
External BT GPS...... If I had an external GPS, why would I use my phone....
External BT mouse . . . . this is not clear to me....
This post is just asking for more clarity.. ..
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He has enabled this phone to take advantage of the common GPS Pucks you see around the world. They do not have a screen of their own, all they do is have the high quality GPS chip like MTK or SiRF StarIII or something similar, and they have their own antenna and they connect via Bluetooth to computers, laptops and smartphones. Smartphones are given very cheaply made low quality GPS systems, but some people like myself included would prefer a much higher quality GPS result on their phone.
Advantages:
1. MUCH higher quality GPS accuracy down to 1 foot or less.
2. Uses less power since Bluetooth is MUCH more power efficient. I had my GPS on over 8 hours yesterday and when I went to bed I was still at 54% battery left, using the built in GPS system my phone would have died long long before then.
3. Lets people use their current GPS puck/mouse. Now I can use my GlobalSat BT-359 GPS mouse. My Samsungs built in GPS system is non-existant and has never worked properly. Now I finally have real GPS, so props to the OP.
This OP in my opinion was very very clear in the first place... You shouldnt roll your eyes or wink like you know what your talking about unless you truly know what your talking about. All you did was show how much you are lacking up stairs. Figured I get to now roll my eyes at your stupid post.
A GPS Mouse is a GPS unit made for smartphones and laptops and they DO NOT have a screen of their own, there are hundreds of them made and have been for many many years. This is what he is doing, letting us use these awesome Bluetooth GPS devices so we can have much more accuracy and bettery battery savings. I see no harm in this.
@the OP, thanks for your great efforts as this was long over due...

new vibrant build available http://iloki.nl/2011/08/24/update-24082011/

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new vibrant build available http://iloki.nl/2011/08/24/update-24082011/
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The new Vibrant build still has flashing according to Skitz.... he broke it Im sure, lol....

Thanks SkOrPn for the explanation, this helped greatly.
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Thanks SkOrPn for the explanation, this helped greatly.

serendipityguy said:
Thanks SkOrPn for the explanation, this helped greatly.
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Why certainly your most welcome....

I'm using this via Trigger - works BEAUTIFULLY on my BT 359 receiver. Although it was pretty confusing at first - after pairing initially it just said "paired but not connected" - needed to switch to the external first, then reboot, then turn on both BT and GPS (sometimes they turn on together in tandem, sometimes they don't..) before the light on the receiver indicated it was connected to the phone. And even then, it's still reported as not paired.
But that aside, this is ROCKING. I would tell you how accurate of locks I'm getting but GPS Test is freaking out (which seems to have been fixed and needs to be implemented in Trigger)
What are the odds of getting this into CM7 mainline?

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And even then, it's still reported as not paired.
What are the odds of getting this into CM7 mainline?
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It reports itself as "Paired but not connected", not as not paired. I mentioned this somewhere else I think in the Trigger thread but now I cant find it. I believe it cant report itself as connected because it does not use a constant on connection similar to that of a BT Headset would. I believe the puck sends data at on/off intervals to short for the phone to display a connection. Just my theory though... My BT Headset on the other hand causes the phone to report as connected, but I think that's because its a constant connection, as obviously an on/off connection would be detrimental to transmitting voice... lol
I can't wait to get this in cm7 source myself, but I wont hold my breath. I wonder if there is anyone we can email to get this pushed along quicker?

Don't worry about paired but not connected message. The most important thing is that is it paired.
Connected is represented by the GPS icon.
flashing -> connected and waiting for fix, or temp lost a fix
solid -> connected and fix
none -> no connection.
Just pay attention to you gps icon and you should be fine. The connection should be there all the time, a fix can be lost temporary if you're going through a long tunnel.
It's generally best to first turn on gps and then enable it on your phone (handshake attempts are initiated from the phone). The first handshake attempt might failed otherwise and you have to wait a little bit for the retry. But eventually it will connect.

New vibrant rom is being build, should be up shortly.
This removes the reboot requirement when switching gps sources. Yes it means no more rebooting
http://iloki.nl/2011/09/08/reboot-requirement-removed/

Bluetooth GPS receiver

Is it possible to use a BT GPS receiver in WP8? and with here Maps? I'm not able to even connect it to the mobile.

jlanza said:
Is it possible to use a BT GPS receiver in WP8? and with here Maps? I'm not able to even connect it to the mobile.
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Windows Phone 8 does not Support external GPS Receivers. Certain Apps could implement compatibility themselves but only those Apps would be able to use it. I guess noone will go to those lengths given that all devices have a GPS Receiver built in. Here Maps definitely won't.

StevieBallz said:
Windows Phone 8 does not Support external GPS Receivers. Certain Apps could implement compatibility themselves but only those Apps would be able to use it. I guess noone will go to those lengths given that all devices have a GPS Receiver built in. Here Maps definitely won't.
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I think this is an error as the internal GPS is really battery consuming, while using a BT GPS makes it possible to have battery lasting a lot more. For example if you go hicking or running you cannot recharge (well if you have a solar charger yes, but ....)
I think WP should allow having this implemented. My old N78 (symbian) did and I was really happy with it. I guess I should go to user voice and ask for such an issue