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Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
hawee8 said:
Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
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1st is myfave in OTA if you dont have myfave in your account then it's basically the same
Feels like beating a dead horse saying this is posted in the wrong forum. There's a q&a section and general...
Anyways, ota updates are tmobile based. They have myfaves, are labeled as a g1 device, and are usually odexed. Adp updates are aimed at a dev phone, they are labeled as such, don't come with myfaves or other propprietary software, and are usually not odexed. Both are signed with different keys
ADP1 doesn't have tmobile spam.
ADP1 has root.
ADP1 doesn't waste data by downloading OTA updates behind your back.
My concern is different. I use the one-click method to root the phone, namely the recovery flasher. I understand that it uses a hole that it patched in newer Unix OS. So my question is whether accepting Donut over the air will include a patch that would disable the one-step rooting of the phone?
Rooted phones don't receive ota's, hope that's not unresponsive
Yes, we know that, but right now my phone is unrooted and I am pondering whether to accept the OTA 1.6 or to reject it because it might be preventing future rooting.
There may be many unrooted users as of this moment and we need guidance whether we should accept or reject a 1.6 OTA.
EDIT: From the official announcement, "Android 1.6 upgrades the Linux kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29". So the real question is whether the kernel pdate renders one-click rooting impossible.
donut patches that lunix exploit for the one click root hack. so yes if you accept that image you will have to root it the old fashion way by reflashing the rc 29 image and using telnet and whatnot.
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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okay why dont u just hurry up and root..then install one of the custom 1.6 roms
yes the OTA 1.6 will patch up the "hole" needed for the 1-click root.
from what i figure out if you already have OTa 1.6 then downgrade to OTA cupcake and then try 1 click root. or root the LOONG way.
If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
starscream00 said:
If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
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highly untrue. i dont have "expertise" in doing root the long way.
i dont even remember EVERYTHING(mostly commands in terminal) since i only rooted ONCE the long way. and its been a loong tim since i rooted. so i am no expert
so i think u need to stfu. what you said wasnt being very constructive and very much false.
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If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
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i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
pistol4413 said:
i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
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Same here. Though I like to do things the easy way, the 1-click got many people who don't even understand what root access is nor the dangers of having root access on their phone.
I only hope that they learn the details of how to use and maintain rooted android fast
i root an unroot for meditation...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
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But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
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Most, if not all, custom roms have 100% market access. All donut builds have support for using internal ROM for apps only. You warranty is null if you have the ADP image installed on a T-Mobile G1
ADP1.6 still has root.
We all know how to gain root after donut.
Read the stickies
Hello all,
I have been searching for a few answers on here but I seem to have come up short. Basically, I have a non sprint hero and would like to root it. I am not sure if I am ready to load a custom rom just yet. I mainly would like to have root to do some modification to the current version I have like getting rid of the junk I dont need (peep, footprints, ect). So far, I have successfully created a goldcard with no issue.But this is where I am getting lost. From what I gather, before i can root at this point it seems I must load some sort of basic or custom RUU to even be able to get root. Is this correct? I would like to avoid this if possible at least until I can do a nand backup. I have also attempted to root using the SDK and shell on both vista and ubuntu karmic with no luck. I guess what I am looking for is a way to root without getting rid of my current 1.5 if that is possible.
Thanks for your help in advance..
Try rooting one of these ways....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603052
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
I did it the second way. No need to flash a ROM, but I would flash the recovery so you can backup your system in it's original state just incase you mess with something you shoudn't
AFAIK Theres is no way to root exactly what your running or return back to stock software after root on non sprint heros. You should be able to return to your carriers software if they release a 2.1 RUU update and your willing to lose root.
Next step for you is running the sprint RUU in this guide. Step 4
Worked flawlessly on my App Wireless phone. Good Luck if you decide to go for it.
Hello,
Thought I'd share the updated How To's we have up on the site. All complete with easy to follow videos for newbies.
How To Setup ADB -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/06/how-to-set-up-adb-usb-drivers-for-android-devices/
How To Load a Theme -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-load-a-theme-on-an-android-phone/
How To Flash a New Recovery Image -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-flash-a-new-recovery-image-if-you-are-already-rooted/
How To Switch to a Different SD Card (for use with Swap, Hero ROMs, etc.) -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/ho...-android-when-using-swap-hero-and-or-apps2sd/
How To Backup/Restore Your Android Phone -
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/06/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-android-phone/
Nexus One How To's -
How To: Root the Nexus One (Updated 01.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/02/how-to-root-the-nexus-one/
How To: Load a Custom ROM on the Nexus One (Updated 1.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/08/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-nexus-one/
Want HTC Sense UI (HTC Desire ROM) on Your Nexus One? Ok, no problem.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/20/want-htc-sense-ui-htc-desire-rom-on-your-nexus-one-ok-no-problem/
Hope these help people! Enjoy!
For a list of all our How To's (w Videos) sorted by Phone go here -
http://theunlockr.com/how-tos/android-how-tos/
very helpful. we should merge with the newbie tutorial
This has been posted before, but still very useful info.
Awesome thanks! A little confusing with so much info all over the place. This sticky will help a bunch of people .
Excellent to have all these in one place, thanks!
I want to say thank you for this! It has helped me a lot.
Beauty!!! Good work!!
Great work, much appreciated. Although, after reading lots and following the forums, I have a few questions:
With the one-click root app listed in the wiki, will I still need to unlock the bootloader to flash a new radio? I'm hearing great things about updating to the new radio but it's also the riskiest thing you can do with the nexus in terms of bricking danger. I'm not a TOTAL newb: I did root and mod my old G1 but the N1 is different in that it cost $350. So the stakes have changed.
I know that it's possible to one-click root and still load CM6, which I plan on doing, but in the CM6 installation instructions, it lists "update radio...if necessary." How do I even know what radio I have or if it needs updating? This all of course without unlocking bootloader, hopefully. I want to keep my warranty; I paid top dollar for this thing!
Put simply, can I update my radio successfully and safely with the "one-click root" method, and if I can't, can I load CM6 without updating the radio.
Thanks so much in advance, and I apologize for being so gun-shy.
By the way, my about phone stats:
Build: FRF91
Kernel 2.6.32.9-27227
Android version 2.2
Love froyo!
how to root N1
hello i need some help how to root my N1
Don't worry, it's easy =].
Download One-Click Root and drop the .apk on your SD card, or email it to yourself. If you go the SD card route, you will need to install ASTRO File Manager to navigate to the root application. Install One-Click Root and run it, it takes about a second and will install BusyBox and Superuser IIRC.
Congrats, you have rooted your phone! You can now install apps that need root, such as Titanium Backup, SetCPU, and many others. Try searching the market for 'Nexus One Root' and check out here for a great list of root apps.
Install ROM Manager from the Market if you want to try out other ROMs. Remember to always make backups!
Have fun!
All these assume Windows, what about OS X and Linux?
Take Apart Videos
What will you do when your phone gets crazy? yes, send the phone back to repair center if it is still under warranty. what if it is out of warranty, and it is so expensive to repair it? or there are just some tiny problems and you just want to fix it by your self? yes, you may feel impulsed to take apart your phone by yourself and figure out what the hell the problem is. if you decide to do this, here are some wonderful take apart videos that may bring you some help. The nexus one take apart video is also included:
globaldirectparts.com/product-p/taprtvdo009.htm
S-Off
Hi,
This is a great sticky to have, but I have noticed it's missing out on something, and I couldn't find that despite using search on the forum. How to gain S-Off on Nexus One? Or is S-Off even required to get write access to /system partition the way it is required on some other Android devices including the Nexus One clone HTC Desire?
Rooting for Mac Users
I was also wondering about how to root if you have a Mac. Everything I see is for someone running windows and now that 2.2.1 is out the one click apps do not work. Advice?
Changing Splash Screen
Hi,
I wanted to change the default 'X' splash screen on nexus one. I had read that S-Off is necessary for that but I am not able to find a method that works for nexus one, can someone please help?
Thanks
followed all the steps to root the nexus one and then go to the last step which is to install the .bat file.... the command prompt pulls up and says <waiting for device> it says its unlocked but the apps needing root privileges says the device isnt rooted could someone please help me!?
i am running off the manual 2.3.3 update if that matters.
thanks for the info helped me alot.
This is outdated. I have Android OS 2.3.4 and from what I have read around root is only possible when downgraded. Please post a new video showing how to root N1 with 2.3.4.
Oh and try to keep the music on the low this time?
Does my Nexus One need to be S-OFF?
I am in the process of trying to install a new ROM (Cyanogen).
My N1 is unlocked and rooted. But I cant seem to get far. My research & understanding is that I need S-OFF
Currently it is -- NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
This article doesnt concur http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700673
(now closed so I can't continue this thread)
I am now using ROM Manager premium but still cant get a new ROM installed.
Help?
The N1 is different from most phones. S-OFF is not needed to make the necessary changes to flash the bootloader, radio, recovery, or the system partition. So continue on with the next steps (which is to probably flash a custom recovery, then boot into that and flash CM and gapps).
If you stick with ROM Manager, flash the custom recovery, and then reboot and make sure it is there... then boot back into Android and use ROM Manager to flash CM (make sure you check the gapps box).
As I stated before, I came over from a rooted MT3G. I updated to FRF85B before I unlocked the bootloader, only to discover that there is no way to achieve root because there is no superboot for it. I am not a developer, but just a big fan of custom roms. I dont even know where to begin on making a superboot of my own. So I plead for on of our more well versed members to create one for us.
I know a ton of people have been complaining about this issue, and I hate to bother, but I cannot wait to flash ROMs. Is there anyone that has any suggestions?
You should have searched, the solution for unlocked bootloaders was given just a day or two ago, and the rooter exists for a while. Is it that hard to find the "search" button?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714444&page=2
Im extremly new at this. I have the cdma hero from sprint and i have looked everywhere on the internet for a way to root and cant really understand the answers. I have a build number of 2.31.651.7 and was wondering if anybody could give me the first steps to take in order to root. rooting for dummys u can call it. i just want froyo 2.2 if anybody could help me out i would appreciate it. I just want to get froyo on it the easiest way. then i wont have to mess with it anymore untill i can get the evo next year. right?
nobody has an answer?
I used an app called universal androot to root. Not sure if it works on that build though but there are a number of guides to root on this site.
i know, ive looked around and wasnt very clear on how to root and install 2.2 using my build
well try universal androot ,the worst that can happen is it doesnt work.Search for it by name and download using your phones browser. After root use rom manager from the market and install recovery image then your ready to go.
mevans2007 said:
Im extremly new at this. I have the cdma hero from sprint and i have looked everywhere on the internet for a way to root and cant really understand the answers. I have a build number of 2.31.651.7 and was wondering if anybody could give me the first steps to take in order to root. rooting for dummys u can call it. i just want froyo 2.2 if anybody could help me out i would appreciate it. I just want to get froyo on it the easiest way. then i wont have to mess with it anymore untill i can get the evo next year. right?
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Here ya go ,under rooting guide thr very bottomit says it works for .7 (IMHO I'd bookmark this Wiki,is updated regularly and can help answer alot of you ques.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png#Rooting_Guides
xjayman said:
well try universal androot ,the worst that can happen is it doesnt work.Search for it by name and download using your phones browser. After root use rom manager from the market and install recovery image then your ready to go.
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After that you flash the cm6 stable version from your phones SD card and it should install cm6 froyo 2.2
I believe at least..
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