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[Q] Some general paranoid questions about rooting my N1

Hello,
Since a while I have a Nexus One(Bought in the Netherlands from Vodafone, with FRF91). And when I heard about
the ability to use the FM Radio on it using CyanogenMod I started thinking about replacing it's stock rom
with CyanogenMod. I have some previous experience with custom ROM's on my ADP1 and have been doing some research but still have some questions. Thats what this post is for.
I want to flash CyanogenMod because I want: FM Radio, ability to do full backups, theming and tuning the trackball notifications.
So first question: Besides these what are the most important benefits of flashing CyanogenMod to my N1?[Q1]
I also want to be able to completely undo the whole process in case I need the warranty or just want to go back for whatever reason. So here is my current todo list to get what I want:
Step 1) Use Super One Click RATC program to get root without unlocking the bootloader(and thus keeping warranty).
If I understand correctly this program will use the RATC exploit in ADB to get ADB with root previliges, push the su program and install the Superuser app, correct?[Q2]
Does the unroot button completely undo this process without leaving any trace?[Q3]
Step 2) Install ROM Manager app from market.
Step 3) Flash ClockworkMod Recovery using ROM Manager app.
Is it possible to backup/reflash the original stock recovery image that my Nexus came with?[Q4]
I found a mediafire page somewhere with the file "Passion-VF-FRF91.zip". Would this be the original rom image my phone came with(Netherlands, Vodafone, FRF91) or are all European Vodafone N1s the same?[Q5]
Step 4) Backup complete phone using nandroid from ClockworkMod recovery.
Will this backup my radio (and hboot if it gets overwritten?) too?[Q6]
Step 5) Flash CyanogenMod using ROM Manager.
Is there a way to migrate my app data(settings and save games) from my stock install to the new CyanogenMod install?[Q7]
Step 6) Live happily ever after.
Any answers to my questions or general tips are appreciated. I might sound paranoid but I just want to be on the safe side of things and not brick my brand new $600 phone.
Thanks

What a load of questions you have...
1. "Extra customizability" and functionality that stock ROM doesn't have.
2. Yes.
3. Don't know, probably so. It doesn't matter anyway.
4. Yes.
5. Don't know, but again, why do you care? It doesn't matter. Just back up your own personal ROM with the recovery.
6. No radio and no hboot.
7. Titanium backup.
8. You're WAY too paranoid. Stop worrying about stuff so much. It's only stuff, even if it costs $600.
And read my signature...

Not sure when the SLCD screens started coming in, but if your custom recovery is black after installing, you will need to install Among Ra 1.9 instead... (you may be OK with FRF91, though).
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Need help from Root Froyo user

Hey all so I currently have an unlocked bootloader, rooted Nexus One still running the Stock Froyo 2.2.2. and I decided to finally upgrade to the OTA Gingerbread update but have a problem.
The OTA update restarts my phone with a triangle with an "!" inside it and an Android next to it, so I decided to try a manual update as described here.
Everything went well until the installation itself, during the install I kept getting some sort of error stating Twitter.apk in the system directory could not be authenticated.
So here's the problem, with Titanium Backup I made the stupid mistake of uninstalling it and not backing it up when I first rooted a while ago. I thought I could just reinstall it from the market but I get the same error. The only solution I can think of is if someone running a Nexus One Stock Froyo could possibly send me the Titanium Backup files of Twitter, hopefully this would make it work, otherwise I don't think I could ever update.

Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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danger-rat said:
Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Thanks for the response, but I'm having trouble figuring some of this stuff, after spending some time with the search option here in XDA:
1. I don't the difference between custom recovery and flashing an image.
2. I can't find a simple stock Gingerbread image (thought its called ROM?) Details in posts tend to be vague for people that are learning this stuff, like me.
3. Many people have written to use Amron_ra 2.2.1 but I don't know the specifics of each ROM are (ex. if its Froyo based, Gingerbread based, etc.)
4. Would using ROM Manager be a good method to use any ROM or is it limited?
I'm essentially looking for an effective method to upgrading to a clean Gingerbread, since doing it the normal way won't work on my phone (as stated in my first post).

1 - Recovery, bootloader, and 'ROM' are two different partitions on you phone. Once you break security on one, you can use it to break the security on the other. In your case, the security on your bootloader is broken (unlocked), so you can use it to install new software on the other partitions.
2 - See bullet 4 on the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005591
3 - For recovery you have 2 choices, Amon Ra or Clockwork, If you go with Clockwork, I recommend you stay away from 3.x versions. Unless the ROM you want to install says otherwise, either of these recoveries will work.
4 - ROM Manger will work. It's an easy way to achieve results, but unless you know what you are doing, it's also an easy way to screw things up.
I suggest you take it a step at at a time, and really understand what you are doing. Reading the wiki is always a good start, then ask specific questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Nexus_One.png

Thanks Danger, I made the jump to Cyanogen 7, RC-4 via ROM Manager and couldn't be happier! Only problem is the known audio bug for Nexus One (person on other end of a call hears a lot of static sometimes, and have to recall them). The forced apps2sd is by far my most favourite feature, especially since the N1 internal space is pretty horrible, I've moved most of my apps2sd and haven't had any problems thus far.
Thanks for recommending CM7, I just wish their website listed the full features for newbies like me.

Thanks danger-rat http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...lick-doesnt-work-gingerbread-2.html#post93952
I downgraded my gingerbread to froyo
Was pulling my hair out with a lame guide in the general section

Congrats!!
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[Q] Nexus One stock GRJ22 (rooted) with apps2ext?

I'm currently running with a rooted version of the latest stock firmware on my N1, and I love the stability and all, except Google's apps2sd implementation is really dumb.
With only a dozen or so apps I am already getting low storage errors.
I've tried flashing in DT's apps2sd but unfortunately it didn't seem to work at all. Are there any other options for me to get apps2ext support without switching to a custom rom?

Try Link2sd in the Market.
It may be better, it may not, but it's worth a try...

Hey SmallWalrus,
I am running stock 2.3.4 unrooted Nexus one. (yes, that is GRJ22)
I have never rooted a phone. Can you please point me somewhere which shows how to unlock and root the N1 with my specs. My phone is pretty old. I am only rooting it because this is a spare one and I now have moved to SGS2.
PS: using a mac and Linux machine. If not then please show me a windows one. i'll try dual booting my macbook pro.

painkilleryusuf said:
Hey SmallWalrus,
I am running stock 2.3.4 unrooted Nexus one. (yes, that is GRJ22)
I have never rooted a phone. Can you please point me somewhere which shows how to unlock and root the N1 with my specs. My phone is pretty old. I am only rooting it because this is a spare one and I now have moved to SGS2.
PS: using a mac and Linux machine. If not then please show me a windows one. i'll try dual booting my macbook pro.
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Have you unlocked your bootloader? That was how I did it though, there is no other way to root 2.3.4 without doing this at the moment.

That is what i want to know. How do i do that safely?

Well there is a way to safely root your phone without unlocking the bootloader, I did those steps recently and they worked fine for me.
1. You need to downgrade your phone to Froyo. Get the FRG83 image from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One/Roms
Rename it to PASSIMG.zip and copy it to the root folder of your SD Card. Boot your phone into the bootloader and flash the image. This will wipe your device, so be sure to make a backup of your data and apps first.
2. Use SuperOneClick to root your phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
3. Now you need to flash a custom recovery. I used the Clockworkmod one, because flashing it is very simple: install the Rom Manager app from the market, it has an option to flash the recovery.
4. Now you are set to flash custom ROMs, either through Rom Manager or the Recovery. You should however do a Nandroid Backup first, in case anything goes wrong in flashing the ROM. Boot into Recovery and you should see a menu item saying Backup or something.
It's really not a big deal as it sounds, I can't guarantee that this will work for you. You should know what you are doing and if you feel unsafe about any of these steps, make sure to search the forums or the web about it, before you execute it.

painkilleryusuf said:
That is what i want to know. How do i do that safely?
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Sorry, I didn't see your question until now
Actually, it IS very easy to do this, you can find the instructions here:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/299078-how-to-unlock-the-bootloader-on-your-nexus-one/
It does have some warranty implications though, but since I am already using an import set I don't care. According to some, HTC usually shuts one eye and fix your phone's hardware failures even if it has an unlocked bootloader, but YMMV.

[Q] installation confusions

i've searched for days on trying to understand how to root the Vivid and still not sure if i've done it correctly.
devices i've rooted or think i've rooted b/c i installed custom ROMs:
- htc aria
- htc inspire
this is something completely different.
none of the threads seem to be clear and concise giving step by step instructions for installing custom ROMs. many abbreviations and skipped steps. i will attempt to be very detailed in what i've done thus far. i understand even the slightest detail is important when having inquiries on forums.
when attempting to root, used Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v1.2
this assisted in unlocking boothloader (this term is still hazey to me)
now i'm thinking... because the bootloader is unlocked, i can get into recovery, which i can. for some reason, had a problem with completing step 6, so i dont know if i'm 'permanently' rooted or not.
with aria and inspire, i used this recovery section to install (note: is install and flash used interchangeably?) custom ROMs. however, i didnt manipulate any 'kernels' to do so (unless it was autoManipulated in the installation of the ROM. now this kernel thing is the reason why i'm writing this post.
i'm attempting to install holiraider_final_4g.zip (hasnt finished downloading yet).
this thread: [ROM][03/06/2012] HoliRaider FINAL - Sense 3.5 /APM/Beats/DSPAudio/Amaze/Bravia, gives files, but no instructs.
so my questions are
- if the bootloader is unlocked, and i can access recovery menu, am i rooted?
- is install and flash used interchangeably?
- to use the holiRaider ROM, must i install/flash the kernel shown in thread?
- if kernel is needed, when is it installed/flashed (in reference to the steps in installing/flashing ROM, ie: install ROM first, then kernel or vice-versa)?
- in lamens (noob, for dummies, etc) terms, what is CRT on/off?
- when is 'RestoreCRT_Animationfor_final.zip' installed/flashed (step by step)?
if more info is needed i'll be glad to give it.
also, i've read the 'everyone needs to read this' thread. dont know what happened, but i have no intention of disrespecting anyone who's assisting me.
thanks for any help.

I imagine someone will help more but to answer some of your questions:
You have to flash the kernel for the rom to run correctly or else you will boot loop.
The kernel is flashed first using a command prompt with your phone hooked up to the computer.
To check if you have root you should use titanium backup or another app that requires root. Just getting into cwm is not enough I don't believe.
I believe crt is an animation, either way not crucial for the rom.
Also, read this post for help with flashing the kernel/rom. Slapshot did a great guide.
Hope I helped somewhat.

i've installed titanium backup, it states i'm not rooted.
so now... that's the first thing i need to do before installing anything.
i've unlocked the bootloader and can access recovery menu. how do i go about permanently rooting vivid. the Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v1.2 doesnt root my phone when using the 'permRoot' button.
any assistance is greatly appreciated.
is there a link to that thread of installing/flashing kernel by slapshot. i will need the information prior to installing/flashing the holiRaid ROM.
also, i remember going to chat room or something of the sort (mIRC i think) and got assistance w/ rooting my htc inspire by attn1. this guy was fantastic. is there anything like that for the htc vivid? he remotely took over my computer and rooted my inspire. it was beautiful.
basically i want bloatware gone. i also want to be able to move every app that has the option to move to SD to move to the SD (adobe flash player, nfs shift, adobe reader, etc...).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Sorry, forgot to post the thread.

[Q] Beyond Confused

Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....

Reaper6181979 said:
Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....
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1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.
2. All roms can use the market/play store, Although CyanogenMod requires it to be flashed as a seperate package.
3. Rom updates can vary. If the dev is active and there's bugs or features that still need to be implemented, then you can usually expect regular updates.
4. Maybe, No, Probably.
5. An RUU is a Rom Update Utility. They are official updates from HTC packaged in a .exe file, digitally signed, region coded and model coded.
Bootloader is hboot, accessed by pressing the button combo volume down + power when switching on your phone from a completely shut down state. Here you can do a factory reset and enter recovery or fastboot mode.
ADB is android Debug Bridge, which you can send commands from your PC to your phone typically via USB.

(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one

Reaper6181979 said:
(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one
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You will be installing a custom Rom if you want to notice difference in performance battery life and appearance. I suggest flashing nikhils Rom posted on march 7th as its a excellent first time users Rom, and it still uses sense UI. All he was saying is that you will lose all current apps and their data from your phone but not things like music, pictures, files on sd card etc. Once you root your phone and install the clockworkmod recovery you'll see an option from within it to create a nandroid backup which will back up your current phone state completely including all apps their data and all settings, just in case you mess something up. Once you get s-off and root you will be able to use titanium backup to save your apps data for use on your next Rom after flashing.
As for radios you only need to change them if your going from a froyo Rom to a gingerbread Rom. Otherwise these only slightly increse reception and WiFi strength. Worry about getting s-off, root and flashing your new Rom first than maybe later get into radios.
Follow instructions carefully and you shouldn't have any problems, good luck.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Thank U both Very much - I will Have a look at the Post u stated. If I have any more questions I hope you don't mind me asking more lol

I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether

Reaper6181979 said:
I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether
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I'm not sure if his rom includes a kernel as he is posting links for recommended kernels on the first page.
The s-off page you linked to is not for this phone. Follow lynt's newb guide to unlock the bootloader, install recovery and root. Once rooted you should stop, install titanium, backup all apps and data, then install the 4ext recovery app and use it to flash the latest 4ext touch recovery as this makes things easier for s-on users to flash to the boot partition. Then do a nandroid backup using 4ext recovery.

Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & tpbklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys

letmedanz said:
Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & topklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys
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Just from what Ive read - I 1000% agree and I am new here lol

Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?

Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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Yes you can use revolutionary to root and install clockworkmod which can be used to flash a new rom or not if you just want to stay stock rooted.
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA

Easy steps:
1. Revolutionary s-off
2. Custom recovery
3. Backup everything using recovery
4. Install any rom u want ( guide to install is in the respective threads)
5. Take a backup of SD card in your PC
6. Do whatever pleases you that is related to rooted phones
7. Have fun... You just future proofed your device for another year
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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That is correct. You can use Revolutionary.io to gain S-OFF and install ClockworkMod recovery on your phone and then you are good to go and enjoy the flashing of custom ROMs.

Yeah do revolutionary to get s-off, during the process it'll ask you if you want to install cwm hit yea and report your status here.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Another side note: with your h-boot its generally impossible to brick your phone unless flashing radios (phone dies during process) or ruu's .
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
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Reaper6181979 said:
You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA
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Cool beans, just checked out nikhills trinity Rom and there is no kernel to flash. All you have to do is follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
Another tip: when revolutionary asks you for a code to enter (not sure if it still does) copy and paste it or your going to get problems.
Also during your first wipe before install you can't wipe something wrong, just avoid sd card wiping lol.
When asked to place your .zip of the Rom in the root of your sd card, its unnecessary, you can navigate to it anywhere on your phone.
When the Rom installs for the first time it will take 3-5 minutes on the boot screen.
That should answer most of the questions your going to have in the near future.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

A friend at work showed me his newly rooted Desire with http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/affinity.html Thinking maybe this one due to the fact it has its own Kernel built in. seems very fast and Uber. Anyone else had experience with it with the Incredible s?

Virtuous roms are quite brilliant..
You will not be disappointed...
its a shame that they longer are in the XDA forums,
team virtuous is one of my all time favorites

Having the kernel is common with most roms, you will find your phone is much more 'user friendly' once rooted and custom rom installed. I run virtuous affinity and didn't have to do anything but root,backup and then flash the rom.
Bloatware gone, speed and battery life increased, more customisation available and enjoyment of my device is improved tenfold.
You won't regret it but will wonder why it took you so long to get around to doing it It's like a whole new device....