Hello,
Thought I'd share the updated How To's we have up on the site. All complete with easy to follow videos for newbies.
How To Setup ADB -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/06/how-to-set-up-adb-usb-drivers-for-android-devices/
How To Load a Theme -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-load-a-theme-on-an-android-phone/
How To Flash a New Recovery Image -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-flash-a-new-recovery-image-if-you-are-already-rooted/
How To Switch to a Different SD Card (for use with Swap, Hero ROMs, etc.) -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/ho...-android-when-using-swap-hero-and-or-apps2sd/
How To Backup/Restore Your Android Phone -
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/06/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-android-phone/
Nexus One How To's -
How To: Root the Nexus One (Updated 01.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/02/how-to-root-the-nexus-one/
How To: Load a Custom ROM on the Nexus One (Updated 1.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/08/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-nexus-one/
Want HTC Sense UI (HTC Desire ROM) on Your Nexus One? Ok, no problem.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/20/want-htc-sense-ui-htc-desire-rom-on-your-nexus-one-ok-no-problem/
Hope these help people! Enjoy!
For a list of all our How To's (w Videos) sorted by Phone go here -
http://theunlockr.com/how-tos/android-how-tos/
very helpful. we should merge with the newbie tutorial
This has been posted before, but still very useful info.
Awesome thanks! A little confusing with so much info all over the place. This sticky will help a bunch of people .
Excellent to have all these in one place, thanks!
I want to say thank you for this! It has helped me a lot.
Beauty!!! Good work!!
Great work, much appreciated. Although, after reading lots and following the forums, I have a few questions:
With the one-click root app listed in the wiki, will I still need to unlock the bootloader to flash a new radio? I'm hearing great things about updating to the new radio but it's also the riskiest thing you can do with the nexus in terms of bricking danger. I'm not a TOTAL newb: I did root and mod my old G1 but the N1 is different in that it cost $350. So the stakes have changed.
I know that it's possible to one-click root and still load CM6, which I plan on doing, but in the CM6 installation instructions, it lists "update radio...if necessary." How do I even know what radio I have or if it needs updating? This all of course without unlocking bootloader, hopefully. I want to keep my warranty; I paid top dollar for this thing!
Put simply, can I update my radio successfully and safely with the "one-click root" method, and if I can't, can I load CM6 without updating the radio.
Thanks so much in advance, and I apologize for being so gun-shy.
By the way, my about phone stats:
Build: FRF91
Kernel 2.6.32.9-27227
Android version 2.2
Love froyo!
how to root N1
hello i need some help how to root my N1
Don't worry, it's easy =].
Download One-Click Root and drop the .apk on your SD card, or email it to yourself. If you go the SD card route, you will need to install ASTRO File Manager to navigate to the root application. Install One-Click Root and run it, it takes about a second and will install BusyBox and Superuser IIRC.
Congrats, you have rooted your phone! You can now install apps that need root, such as Titanium Backup, SetCPU, and many others. Try searching the market for 'Nexus One Root' and check out here for a great list of root apps.
Install ROM Manager from the Market if you want to try out other ROMs. Remember to always make backups!
Have fun!
All these assume Windows, what about OS X and Linux?
Take Apart Videos
What will you do when your phone gets crazy? yes, send the phone back to repair center if it is still under warranty. what if it is out of warranty, and it is so expensive to repair it? or there are just some tiny problems and you just want to fix it by your self? yes, you may feel impulsed to take apart your phone by yourself and figure out what the hell the problem is. if you decide to do this, here are some wonderful take apart videos that may bring you some help. The nexus one take apart video is also included:
globaldirectparts.com/product-p/taprtvdo009.htm
S-Off
Hi,
This is a great sticky to have, but I have noticed it's missing out on something, and I couldn't find that despite using search on the forum. How to gain S-Off on Nexus One? Or is S-Off even required to get write access to /system partition the way it is required on some other Android devices including the Nexus One clone HTC Desire?
Rooting for Mac Users
I was also wondering about how to root if you have a Mac. Everything I see is for someone running windows and now that 2.2.1 is out the one click apps do not work. Advice?
Changing Splash Screen
Hi,
I wanted to change the default 'X' splash screen on nexus one. I had read that S-Off is necessary for that but I am not able to find a method that works for nexus one, can someone please help?
Thanks
followed all the steps to root the nexus one and then go to the last step which is to install the .bat file.... the command prompt pulls up and says <waiting for device> it says its unlocked but the apps needing root privileges says the device isnt rooted could someone please help me!?
i am running off the manual 2.3.3 update if that matters.
thanks for the info helped me alot.
This is outdated. I have Android OS 2.3.4 and from what I have read around root is only possible when downgraded. Please post a new video showing how to root N1 with 2.3.4.
Oh and try to keep the music on the low this time?
Does my Nexus One need to be S-OFF?
I am in the process of trying to install a new ROM (Cyanogen).
My N1 is unlocked and rooted. But I cant seem to get far. My research & understanding is that I need S-OFF
Currently it is -- NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
This article doesnt concur http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700673
(now closed so I can't continue this thread)
I am now using ROM Manager premium but still cant get a new ROM installed.
Help?
The N1 is different from most phones. S-OFF is not needed to make the necessary changes to flash the bootloader, radio, recovery, or the system partition. So continue on with the next steps (which is to probably flash a custom recovery, then boot into that and flash CM and gapps).
If you stick with ROM Manager, flash the custom recovery, and then reboot and make sure it is there... then boot back into Android and use ROM Manager to flash CM (make sure you check the gapps box).
Hey all so I currently have an unlocked bootloader, rooted Nexus One still running the Stock Froyo 2.2.2. and I decided to finally upgrade to the OTA Gingerbread update but have a problem.
The OTA update restarts my phone with a triangle with an "!" inside it and an Android next to it, so I decided to try a manual update as described here.
Everything went well until the installation itself, during the install I kept getting some sort of error stating Twitter.apk in the system directory could not be authenticated.
So here's the problem, with Titanium Backup I made the stupid mistake of uninstalling it and not backing it up when I first rooted a while ago. I thought I could just reinstall it from the market but I get the same error. The only solution I can think of is if someone running a Nexus One Stock Froyo could possibly send me the Titanium Backup files of Twitter, hopefully this would make it work, otherwise I don't think I could ever update.
Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Thanks for the response, but I'm having trouble figuring some of this stuff, after spending some time with the search option here in XDA:
1. I don't the difference between custom recovery and flashing an image.
2. I can't find a simple stock Gingerbread image (thought its called ROM?) Details in posts tend to be vague for people that are learning this stuff, like me.
3. Many people have written to use Amron_ra 2.2.1 but I don't know the specifics of each ROM are (ex. if its Froyo based, Gingerbread based, etc.)
4. Would using ROM Manager be a good method to use any ROM or is it limited?
I'm essentially looking for an effective method to upgrading to a clean Gingerbread, since doing it the normal way won't work on my phone (as stated in my first post).
1 - Recovery, bootloader, and 'ROM' are two different partitions on you phone. Once you break security on one, you can use it to break the security on the other. In your case, the security on your bootloader is broken (unlocked), so you can use it to install new software on the other partitions.
2 - See bullet 4 on the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005591
3 - For recovery you have 2 choices, Amon Ra or Clockwork, If you go with Clockwork, I recommend you stay away from 3.x versions. Unless the ROM you want to install says otherwise, either of these recoveries will work.
4 - ROM Manger will work. It's an easy way to achieve results, but unless you know what you are doing, it's also an easy way to screw things up.
I suggest you take it a step at at a time, and really understand what you are doing. Reading the wiki is always a good start, then ask specific questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Nexus_One.png
Thanks Danger, I made the jump to Cyanogen 7, RC-4 via ROM Manager and couldn't be happier! Only problem is the known audio bug for Nexus One (person on other end of a call hears a lot of static sometimes, and have to recall them). The forced apps2sd is by far my most favourite feature, especially since the N1 internal space is pretty horrible, I've moved most of my apps2sd and haven't had any problems thus far.
Thanks for recommending CM7, I just wish their website listed the full features for newbies like me.
Thanks danger-rat http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...lick-doesnt-work-gingerbread-2.html#post93952
I downgraded my gingerbread to froyo
Was pulling my hair out with a lame guide in the general section
Congrats!!
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
chaoscreater said:
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
chaoscreater said:
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
chaoscreater said:
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
chaoscreater said:
I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
DevIcon
DevLogo
At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
chaoscreater said:
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
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Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
chaoscreater said:
Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )
Hi all,
I am I a position where I can get unlimited tethering, of which I am grateful for. I purchased the phone from Vodaphone and then moved to another provider. Because its a third party phone, tethering is not detected.
So, I accidentally updated the software version of the 510 to 1.51.161.12 and then to 1.51.161.14 and my tethering application took a MASSIVE hit.
Tethered to an Xbox one, I now get huge packet loss, very low MTU, huge latency and slow speeds, which was not present before the update. I have contacted the HTC devs to let them know about the issue. I have already troubleshooted all my devices, factory reset, wiped the cache etc...
I wish to roll back the version. I realise in order to do this I will need to root my phone and flash a ROM. The only Kernel I could find was on the htcdev website and was version 1.51.161.10 from vodaphone. Is this a stock ROM?
Can anyone assist me in safely flashing my phone, I have never done this before and I would like to keep my unlimited tethering and phone in working condition. I did Google it but I couldn't find any decent results.
What is a safe guide to follow? I am completely inexperienced at this and would really appreciate the help.
Is dip_spits guide appropriate for a a UK carrier, does it matter? I almost used this guide
https://support.digitalendpoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/204812787-How-to-root-the-HTC-Desire-510 -until I realised that I need philz recovery for 64bit. Will using the dip_spit guide lock my carrier again?
What ROM can I use after rooting. Why is it so hard to find information on HTC 510 rooting and ROMs
I am looking for a safe way of doing this and have posted multiple times on XDA, but nobody can help me. The reason I am doing this is to restore functionality to my tethering, which has broken for no apparent reason.
Thanks
Benjive said:
Hi all,
I am I a position where I can get unlimited tethering, of which I am grateful for. I purchased the phone from Vodaphone and then moved to another provider. Because its a third party phone, tethering is not detected.
So, I accidentally updated the software version of the 510 to 1.51.161.12 and then to 1.51.161.14 and my tethering application took a MASSIVE hit.
Tethered to an Xbox one, I now get huge packet loss, very low MTU, huge latency and slow speeds, which was not present before the update. I have contacted the HTC devs to let them know about the issue. I have already troubleshooted all my devices, factory reset, wiped the cache etc...
I wish to roll back the version. I realise in order to do this I will need to root my phone and flash a ROM. The only Kernel I could find was on the htcdev website and was version 1.51.161.10 from vodaphone. Is this a stock ROM?
Can anyone assist me in safely flashing my phone, I have never done this before and I would like to keep my unlimited tethering and phone in working condition. I did Google it but I couldn't find any decent results.
What is a safe guide to follow? I am completely inexperienced at this and would really appreciate the help.
Is dip_spits guide appropriate for a a UK carrier, does it matter? I almost used this guide
https://support.digitalendpoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/204812787-How-to-root-the-HTC-Desire-510 -until I realised that I need philz recovery for 64bit. Will using the dip_spit guide lock my carrier again?
What ROM can I use after rooting. Why is it so hard to find information on HTC 510 rooting and ROMs
I am looking for a safe way of doing this and have posted multiple times on XDA, but nobody can help me. The reason I am doing this is to restore functionality to my tethering, which has broken for no apparent reason.
Thanks
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Okey.....a lot of questions.
Firstly, if you are 64 bit there is no need to use philiz touch recovery. There is TWRP recovery for our device. You can get it here:http://twrp.me Don't search HTCDev for 64bit ROM's. The only thing there are kernel source files. The carrier lock is not in any way connected with the operating system (at least thats what I think). And it's highly doubtful that the lock will reapear. The reason that you can't find a lot of guieds about our device it's mainly because the majority of devs here on XDA are from the USA. In the USA they sell the 32 bit version of the phone and the software is very different from the 64 bit.
Now lets talk about ROM's.
If you want pure stock rom you can search for it here mega:///#F!3Zo10Zya!-NbM_2RWWecFlc5mH9bLbA
If you want a custom rom you can get this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/htc-desire-510-64-bit-eu--international-version/cyanogenmod-12-1-msm8916-64bit-t3281744
And if you'd like a debloated version of the stock you can get this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/htc-desire-510-64-bit-eu--international-version/android-4-4-3-stock-os-debloated-64bit-t3361689
denny.hell said:
Okey.....a lot of questions.
Firstly, if you are 64 bit there is no need to use philiz touch recovery. There is TWRP recovery for our device. You can get it here:http://twrp.me Don't search HTCDev for 64bit ROM's. The only thing there are kernel source files. The carrier lock is not in any way connected with the operating system (at least thats what I think). And it's highly doubtful that the lock will reapear. The reason that you can't find a lot of guieds about our device it's mainly because the majority of devs here on XDA are from the USA. In the USA they sell the 32 bit version of the phone and the software is very different from the 64 bit.
Now lets talk about ROM's.
If you want pure stock rom you can search for it here mega:///#F!3Zo10Zya!-NbM_2RWWecFlc5mH9bLbA
If you want a custom rom you can get this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/htc-desire-510-64-bit-eu--international-version/cyanogenmod-12-1-msm8916-64bit-t3281744
And if you'd like a debloated version of the stock you can get this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/htc-desire-510-64-bit-eu--international-version/android-4-4-3-stock-os-debloated-64bit-t3361689
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Ok so here is what happened when I rooted.
I unlocked the boot loader and made a recovery using philz touch. The PROBLEM is that I didn't have an SD card installed so what happened is philz touch partioned part of my phones memory. So I go to root and it is successful.
Now I got to recovery to install back the system because I was not happy with the way some of the apps were running and I want to install the stock vodpahone RUU on zubaggys page. I go ahead and recover but now it has taken more memory. I am now running my old ROM and kernel with less than 1 gig of free memory!!
All I want to do now is reinstall the stock vodaphone
Another question. When I was rooted, I downloaded barnacle tether and messed with the transmit power in the settings. I disabled and uninstalled. I also downloaded port forwarder ultimate and messed with the setting but uninstalled.
Will this affect my ROM installation, will it be fresh.
Thanks.
Benjive said:
Ok so here is what happened when I rooted.
I unlocked the boot loader and made a recovery using philz touch. The PROBLEM is that I didn't have an SD card installed so what happened is philz touch partioned part of my phones memory. So I go to root and it is successful.
Now I got to recovery to install back the system because I was not happy with the way some of the apps were running and I want to install the stock vodpahone RUU on zubaggys page. I go ahead and recover but now it has taken more memory. I am now running my old ROM and kernel with less than 1 gig of free memory!!
All I want to do now is reinstall the stock vodaphone
Another question. When I was rooted, I downloaded barnacle tether and messed with the transmit power in the settings. I disabled and uninstalled. I also downloaded port forwarder ultimate and messed with the setting but uninstalled.
Will this affect my ROM installation, will it be fresh.
Thanks.
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If philiz touch partitioned the phone then it's a miracle that it's still working. At this point I will suggest you flash TWRP because it has a more clean interface and there is no way you'd mess up something. Afterwards use it to format every single partition you can find with it. Beware that with this you will delete all data including the OS. I am not 100% percent that this will work because I haven't seen a situation like yours.
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If philiz touch partitioned the phone then it's a miracle that it's still working. At this point I will suggest you flash TWRP because it has a more clean interface and there is no way you'd mess up something. Afterwards use it to format every single partition you can find with it. Beware that with this you will delete all data including the OS. I am not 100% percent that this will work because I haven't seen a situation like yours.
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Jeez, I guess i have got myself in a bit of a sticky situation. I followed dips rooting procedure and it explicitly stated not to use twrp and use Philz touch instead for 64 bit phones. It also didn't state to use an Sd card.
We are talking in two threads here, so I suggest, to help other users with a stock revert, that we continue in Zubaggys thread. You are being a great help and I really appreciate you giving me your time.