Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....
Reaper6181979 said:
Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....
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1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.
2. All roms can use the market/play store, Although CyanogenMod requires it to be flashed as a seperate package.
3. Rom updates can vary. If the dev is active and there's bugs or features that still need to be implemented, then you can usually expect regular updates.
4. Maybe, No, Probably.
5. An RUU is a Rom Update Utility. They are official updates from HTC packaged in a .exe file, digitally signed, region coded and model coded.
Bootloader is hboot, accessed by pressing the button combo volume down + power when switching on your phone from a completely shut down state. Here you can do a factory reset and enter recovery or fastboot mode.
ADB is android Debug Bridge, which you can send commands from your PC to your phone typically via USB.
(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one
Reaper6181979 said:
(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one
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You will be installing a custom Rom if you want to notice difference in performance battery life and appearance. I suggest flashing nikhils Rom posted on march 7th as its a excellent first time users Rom, and it still uses sense UI. All he was saying is that you will lose all current apps and their data from your phone but not things like music, pictures, files on sd card etc. Once you root your phone and install the clockworkmod recovery you'll see an option from within it to create a nandroid backup which will back up your current phone state completely including all apps their data and all settings, just in case you mess something up. Once you get s-off and root you will be able to use titanium backup to save your apps data for use on your next Rom after flashing.
As for radios you only need to change them if your going from a froyo Rom to a gingerbread Rom. Otherwise these only slightly increse reception and WiFi strength. Worry about getting s-off, root and flashing your new Rom first than maybe later get into radios.
Follow instructions carefully and you shouldn't have any problems, good luck.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
Thank U both Very much - I will Have a look at the Post u stated. If I have any more questions I hope you don't mind me asking more lol
I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether
Reaper6181979 said:
I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether
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I'm not sure if his rom includes a kernel as he is posting links for recommended kernels on the first page.
The s-off page you linked to is not for this phone. Follow lynt's newb guide to unlock the bootloader, install recovery and root. Once rooted you should stop, install titanium, backup all apps and data, then install the 4ext recovery app and use it to flash the latest 4ext touch recovery as this makes things easier for s-on users to flash to the boot partition. Then do a nandroid backup using 4ext recovery.
Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & tpbklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys
letmedanz said:
Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & topklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys
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Just from what Ive read - I 1000% agree and I am new here lol
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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Yes you can use revolutionary to root and install clockworkmod which can be used to flash a new rom or not if you just want to stay stock rooted.
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA
Easy steps:
1. Revolutionary s-off
2. Custom recovery
3. Backup everything using recovery
4. Install any rom u want ( guide to install is in the respective threads)
5. Take a backup of SD card in your PC
6. Do whatever pleases you that is related to rooted phones
7. Have fun... You just future proofed your device for another year
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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That is correct. You can use Revolutionary.io to gain S-OFF and install ClockworkMod recovery on your phone and then you are good to go and enjoy the flashing of custom ROMs.
Yeah do revolutionary to get s-off, during the process it'll ask you if you want to install cwm hit yea and report your status here.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
Another side note: with your h-boot its generally impossible to brick your phone unless flashing radios (phone dies during process) or ruu's .
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You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
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Reaper6181979 said:
You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA
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Cool beans, just checked out nikhills trinity Rom and there is no kernel to flash. All you have to do is follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
Another tip: when revolutionary asks you for a code to enter (not sure if it still does) copy and paste it or your going to get problems.
Also during your first wipe before install you can't wipe something wrong, just avoid sd card wiping lol.
When asked to place your .zip of the Rom in the root of your sd card, its unnecessary, you can navigate to it anywhere on your phone.
When the Rom installs for the first time it will take 3-5 minutes on the boot screen.
That should answer most of the questions your going to have in the near future.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
A friend at work showed me his newly rooted Desire with http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/affinity.html Thinking maybe this one due to the fact it has its own Kernel built in. seems very fast and Uber. Anyone else had experience with it with the Incredible s?
Virtuous roms are quite brilliant..
You will not be disappointed...
its a shame that they longer are in the XDA forums,
team virtuous is one of my all time favorites
Having the kernel is common with most roms, you will find your phone is much more 'user friendly' once rooted and custom rom installed. I run virtuous affinity and didn't have to do anything but root,backup and then flash the rom.
Bloatware gone, speed and battery life increased, more customisation available and enjoyment of my device is improved tenfold.
You won't regret it but will wonder why it took you so long to get around to doing it It's like a whole new device....
Related
Hello,
Thought I'd share the updated How To's we have up on the site. All complete with easy to follow videos for newbies.
How To Setup ADB -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/06/how-to-set-up-adb-usb-drivers-for-android-devices/
How To Load a Theme -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-load-a-theme-on-an-android-phone/
How To Flash a New Recovery Image -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-flash-a-new-recovery-image-if-you-are-already-rooted/
How To Switch to a Different SD Card (for use with Swap, Hero ROMs, etc.) -
http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/ho...-android-when-using-swap-hero-and-or-apps2sd/
How To Backup/Restore Your Android Phone -
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/06/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-android-phone/
Nexus One How To's -
How To: Root the Nexus One (Updated 01.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/02/how-to-root-the-nexus-one/
How To: Load a Custom ROM on the Nexus One (Updated 1.11.10)
http://theunlockr.com/2010/01/08/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-nexus-one/
Want HTC Sense UI (HTC Desire ROM) on Your Nexus One? Ok, no problem.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/02/20/want-htc-sense-ui-htc-desire-rom-on-your-nexus-one-ok-no-problem/
Hope these help people! Enjoy!
For a list of all our How To's (w Videos) sorted by Phone go here -
http://theunlockr.com/how-tos/android-how-tos/
very helpful. we should merge with the newbie tutorial
This has been posted before, but still very useful info.
Awesome thanks! A little confusing with so much info all over the place. This sticky will help a bunch of people .
Excellent to have all these in one place, thanks!
I want to say thank you for this! It has helped me a lot.
Beauty!!! Good work!!
Great work, much appreciated. Although, after reading lots and following the forums, I have a few questions:
With the one-click root app listed in the wiki, will I still need to unlock the bootloader to flash a new radio? I'm hearing great things about updating to the new radio but it's also the riskiest thing you can do with the nexus in terms of bricking danger. I'm not a TOTAL newb: I did root and mod my old G1 but the N1 is different in that it cost $350. So the stakes have changed.
I know that it's possible to one-click root and still load CM6, which I plan on doing, but in the CM6 installation instructions, it lists "update radio...if necessary." How do I even know what radio I have or if it needs updating? This all of course without unlocking bootloader, hopefully. I want to keep my warranty; I paid top dollar for this thing!
Put simply, can I update my radio successfully and safely with the "one-click root" method, and if I can't, can I load CM6 without updating the radio.
Thanks so much in advance, and I apologize for being so gun-shy.
By the way, my about phone stats:
Build: FRF91
Kernel 2.6.32.9-27227
Android version 2.2
Love froyo!
how to root N1
hello i need some help how to root my N1
Don't worry, it's easy =].
Download One-Click Root and drop the .apk on your SD card, or email it to yourself. If you go the SD card route, you will need to install ASTRO File Manager to navigate to the root application. Install One-Click Root and run it, it takes about a second and will install BusyBox and Superuser IIRC.
Congrats, you have rooted your phone! You can now install apps that need root, such as Titanium Backup, SetCPU, and many others. Try searching the market for 'Nexus One Root' and check out here for a great list of root apps.
Install ROM Manager from the Market if you want to try out other ROMs. Remember to always make backups!
Have fun!
All these assume Windows, what about OS X and Linux?
Take Apart Videos
What will you do when your phone gets crazy? yes, send the phone back to repair center if it is still under warranty. what if it is out of warranty, and it is so expensive to repair it? or there are just some tiny problems and you just want to fix it by your self? yes, you may feel impulsed to take apart your phone by yourself and figure out what the hell the problem is. if you decide to do this, here are some wonderful take apart videos that may bring you some help. The nexus one take apart video is also included:
globaldirectparts.com/product-p/taprtvdo009.htm
S-Off
Hi,
This is a great sticky to have, but I have noticed it's missing out on something, and I couldn't find that despite using search on the forum. How to gain S-Off on Nexus One? Or is S-Off even required to get write access to /system partition the way it is required on some other Android devices including the Nexus One clone HTC Desire?
Rooting for Mac Users
I was also wondering about how to root if you have a Mac. Everything I see is for someone running windows and now that 2.2.1 is out the one click apps do not work. Advice?
Changing Splash Screen
Hi,
I wanted to change the default 'X' splash screen on nexus one. I had read that S-Off is necessary for that but I am not able to find a method that works for nexus one, can someone please help?
Thanks
followed all the steps to root the nexus one and then go to the last step which is to install the .bat file.... the command prompt pulls up and says <waiting for device> it says its unlocked but the apps needing root privileges says the device isnt rooted could someone please help me!?
i am running off the manual 2.3.3 update if that matters.
thanks for the info helped me alot.
This is outdated. I have Android OS 2.3.4 and from what I have read around root is only possible when downgraded. Please post a new video showing how to root N1 with 2.3.4.
Oh and try to keep the music on the low this time?
Does my Nexus One need to be S-OFF?
I am in the process of trying to install a new ROM (Cyanogen).
My N1 is unlocked and rooted. But I cant seem to get far. My research & understanding is that I need S-OFF
Currently it is -- NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
This article doesnt concur http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700673
(now closed so I can't continue this thread)
I am now using ROM Manager premium but still cant get a new ROM installed.
Help?
The N1 is different from most phones. S-OFF is not needed to make the necessary changes to flash the bootloader, radio, recovery, or the system partition. So continue on with the next steps (which is to probably flash a custom recovery, then boot into that and flash CM and gapps).
If you stick with ROM Manager, flash the custom recovery, and then reboot and make sure it is there... then boot back into Android and use ROM Manager to flash CM (make sure you check the gapps box).
Hello,
Since a while I have a Nexus One(Bought in the Netherlands from Vodafone, with FRF91). And when I heard about
the ability to use the FM Radio on it using CyanogenMod I started thinking about replacing it's stock rom
with CyanogenMod. I have some previous experience with custom ROM's on my ADP1 and have been doing some research but still have some questions. Thats what this post is for.
I want to flash CyanogenMod because I want: FM Radio, ability to do full backups, theming and tuning the trackball notifications.
So first question: Besides these what are the most important benefits of flashing CyanogenMod to my N1?[Q1]
I also want to be able to completely undo the whole process in case I need the warranty or just want to go back for whatever reason. So here is my current todo list to get what I want:
Step 1) Use Super One Click RATC program to get root without unlocking the bootloader(and thus keeping warranty).
If I understand correctly this program will use the RATC exploit in ADB to get ADB with root previliges, push the su program and install the Superuser app, correct?[Q2]
Does the unroot button completely undo this process without leaving any trace?[Q3]
Step 2) Install ROM Manager app from market.
Step 3) Flash ClockworkMod Recovery using ROM Manager app.
Is it possible to backup/reflash the original stock recovery image that my Nexus came with?[Q4]
I found a mediafire page somewhere with the file "Passion-VF-FRF91.zip". Would this be the original rom image my phone came with(Netherlands, Vodafone, FRF91) or are all European Vodafone N1s the same?[Q5]
Step 4) Backup complete phone using nandroid from ClockworkMod recovery.
Will this backup my radio (and hboot if it gets overwritten?) too?[Q6]
Step 5) Flash CyanogenMod using ROM Manager.
Is there a way to migrate my app data(settings and save games) from my stock install to the new CyanogenMod install?[Q7]
Step 6) Live happily ever after.
Any answers to my questions or general tips are appreciated. I might sound paranoid but I just want to be on the safe side of things and not brick my brand new $600 phone.
Thanks
What a load of questions you have...
1. "Extra customizability" and functionality that stock ROM doesn't have.
2. Yes.
3. Don't know, probably so. It doesn't matter anyway.
4. Yes.
5. Don't know, but again, why do you care? It doesn't matter. Just back up your own personal ROM with the recovery.
6. No radio and no hboot.
7. Titanium backup.
8. You're WAY too paranoid. Stop worrying about stuff so much. It's only stuff, even if it costs $600.
And read my signature...
Not sure when the SLCD screens started coming in, but if your custom recovery is black after installing, you will need to install Among Ra 1.9 instead... (you may be OK with FRF91, though).
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Hey all so I currently have an unlocked bootloader, rooted Nexus One still running the Stock Froyo 2.2.2. and I decided to finally upgrade to the OTA Gingerbread update but have a problem.
The OTA update restarts my phone with a triangle with an "!" inside it and an Android next to it, so I decided to try a manual update as described here.
Everything went well until the installation itself, during the install I kept getting some sort of error stating Twitter.apk in the system directory could not be authenticated.
So here's the problem, with Titanium Backup I made the stupid mistake of uninstalling it and not backing it up when I first rooted a while ago. I thought I could just reinstall it from the market but I get the same error. The only solution I can think of is if someone running a Nexus One Stock Froyo could possibly send me the Titanium Backup files of Twitter, hopefully this would make it work, otherwise I don't think I could ever update.
Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
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Thanks for the response, but I'm having trouble figuring some of this stuff, after spending some time with the search option here in XDA:
1. I don't the difference between custom recovery and flashing an image.
2. I can't find a simple stock Gingerbread image (thought its called ROM?) Details in posts tend to be vague for people that are learning this stuff, like me.
3. Many people have written to use Amron_ra 2.2.1 but I don't know the specifics of each ROM are (ex. if its Froyo based, Gingerbread based, etc.)
4. Would using ROM Manager be a good method to use any ROM or is it limited?
I'm essentially looking for an effective method to upgrading to a clean Gingerbread, since doing it the normal way won't work on my phone (as stated in my first post).
1 - Recovery, bootloader, and 'ROM' are two different partitions on you phone. Once you break security on one, you can use it to break the security on the other. In your case, the security on your bootloader is broken (unlocked), so you can use it to install new software on the other partitions.
2 - See bullet 4 on the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005591
3 - For recovery you have 2 choices, Amon Ra or Clockwork, If you go with Clockwork, I recommend you stay away from 3.x versions. Unless the ROM you want to install says otherwise, either of these recoveries will work.
4 - ROM Manger will work. It's an easy way to achieve results, but unless you know what you are doing, it's also an easy way to screw things up.
I suggest you take it a step at at a time, and really understand what you are doing. Reading the wiki is always a good start, then ask specific questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Nexus_One.png
Thanks Danger, I made the jump to Cyanogen 7, RC-4 via ROM Manager and couldn't be happier! Only problem is the known audio bug for Nexus One (person on other end of a call hears a lot of static sometimes, and have to recall them). The forced apps2sd is by far my most favourite feature, especially since the N1 internal space is pretty horrible, I've moved most of my apps2sd and haven't had any problems thus far.
Thanks for recommending CM7, I just wish their website listed the full features for newbies like me.
Thanks danger-rat http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...lick-doesnt-work-gingerbread-2.html#post93952
I downgraded my gingerbread to froyo
Was pulling my hair out with a lame guide in the general section
Congrats!!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
Hello everyone,
First of all, I am really sorry if this is a double post ( It probably is). I have honestly tried to search a response in already existing posts and I have found that some people seem to have experienced similar issues. However, being a total newbie in development, not really understanding the whole logical structure, I was unable to efficiently transfer existing responses to my problem. Thus, if somewhere exactly the same problem was already discussed I would be glad to read the thread. In opposite, similar threads will probably not help such an ignorant as I am.
That's said, here is the problem :
I have a HTC incredible S with the following status :
Alpharev
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.1000
RADIO-38.02.01.11_M
eMMC - boot
february 11 2011.....
Android 2.2.1
As the pro's have already understood I have used the Alpharev method to switch my phone into "S-OFF" and root it around a year ago. As far as I remember I haven't done anything more. If I'm using the words right, no flash of recovery partition or anything of this kind. The phone is all right - no major issues.
Recently I have tried to update the phone, finally accepting the suggestion which was annoying me for several months. I have just accepted the update to Android 2.3 using OTA (I hope to use this right, I mean that the phone had downloaded the update itself, without pc or anything else).
Unfortunately the update failed ( blocked with a black background, the phone in the middle and a red triangle on the top right corner of the phone). After waiting for a very long time, I have removed the battery and put it back - everything is ok. (no update off course)
So the questions :
1. Is it theoretically possible to use official updates while being rooted? I don't really have time to play with different ROMs, an official ROM with root access is enough for me.
1.1 If yes, how?
2. If no, can I unroot it, update it and root it again in order to have the last official update with root?
2.1 If no, I suppose that I have to use "Custom ROMs". Could you please give me a link with the most up to date method to install Custom ROMS and may be an advice of a really STABLE one?
3. What options I haven't thought about?
Once again, I understand that all this was for sure already discussed, but I was probably unable to understand it.
Thanks a lot for all future responses!
SuperTraxer said:
Hello everyone,
First of all, I am really sorry if this is a double post ( It probably is). I have honestly tried to search a response in already existing posts and I have found that some people seem to have experienced similar issues. However, being a total newbie in development, not really understanding the whole logical structure, I was unable to efficiently transfer existing responses to my problem. Thus, if somewhere exactly the same problem was already discussed I would be glad to read the thread. In opposite, similar threads will probably not help such an ignorant as I am.
That's said, here is the problem :
I have a HTC incredible S with the following status :
Alpharev
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.1000
RADIO-38.02.01.11_M
eMMC - boot
february 11 2011.....
Android 2.2.1
As the pro's have already understood I have used the Alpharev method to switch my phone into "S-OFF" and root it around a year ago. As far as I remember I haven't done anything more. If I'm using the words right, no flash of recovery partition or anything of this kind. The phone is all right - no major issues.
Recently I have tried to update the phone, finally accepting the suggestion which was annoying me for several months. I have just accepted the update to Android 2.3 using OTA (I hope to use this right, I mean that the phone had downloaded the update itself, without pc or anything else).
Unfortunately the update failed ( blocked with a black background, the phone in the middle and a red triangle on the top right corner of the phone). After waiting for a very long time, I have removed the battery and put it back - everything is ok. (no update off course)
So the questions :
1. Is it theoretically possible to use official updates while being rooted? I don't really have time to play with different ROMs, an official ROM with root access is enough for me.
1.1 If yes, how?
2. If no, can I unroot it, update it and root it again in order to have the last official update with root?
2.1 If no, I suppose that I have to use "Custom ROMs". Could you please give me a link with the most up to date method to install Custom ROMS and may be an advice of a really STABLE one?
3. What options I haven't thought about?
Once again, I understand that all this was for sure already discussed, but I was probably unable to understand it.
Thanks a lot for all future responses!
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The AlphaRevX S-OFF HBOOT is preventing the OTA from getting applied successfully.
You are better off keeping S-OFF and using custom ROMs. You just need to install a custom recovery such as 4EXT Touch or ClockworkMod in order to flash custom Roms.
Thanks,
so:
1.NO
1.1 N/A
2 Probably yes, but inefficient/difficult
2.1 That's the way to go.
That's said, the phone is S-OFF, Rooted, and now I need to install custom recovery... hmmmm, where can i learn more about? Which one do you advice?
Thank you!
One more, not directly related.
Is it better to keep the current version of alpharev and hboot or is it better and possible to somehow update those parameters before installing the custom recovery?
SuperTraxer said:
One more, not directly related.
Is it better to keep the current version of alpharev and hboot or is it better and possible to somehow update those parameters before installing the custom recovery?
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I personally like 4EXT Touch recovery. It should be available in the Android Market/PlayStore or you can check out the link in my signature.
As for the AlphaRevX HBOOT, I would just keep it installed.
tpbklake said:
I personally like 4EXT Touch recovery. It should be available in the Android Market/PlayStore or you can check out the link in my signature.
As for the AlphaRevX HBOOT, I would just keep it installed.
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Thank you very much! Have just installed this! Will now try with ROMs! Thank you
SuperTraxer said:
Thank you very much! Have just installed this! Will now try with ROMs! Thank you
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If you're looking for a good custom rom with the latest everything, try Venom ViperVIVO
First things first : I am a complete noob to all this.
Details of my phone that might be required:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Sense: 3.6
I am planning to root my phone but unable to decide a good ROM for myself. Can anyone suggest a good one for me? Please include the link where I can see the screenshots so that I can decide easily.
I came over some pages from this forum. This one looked kinda attractive : CYANVIVO 10.1
I don't know whether it is suitable/safe for my phone.
I have also downloaded the current stable release by CyanogenMod (added on : 2012-06-16 05:39:44) from here.
This seems much more trusted but it's over an year old.
My prime considerations are good looks, faster processing (it has gone very very slow these days) and better battery life but I guess I can't have processing as well as battery simultaneously. In that case, I would be happy to sacrifice a bit of my battery life. But still, if there is a way by which I could conserve my battery when I wish (ex - by using apps which under-clock the processor), it would be really great.
zwitter said:
First things first : I am a complete noob to all this.
Details of my phone that might be required:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Sense: 3.6
I am planning to root my phone but unable to decide a good ROM for myself. Can anyone suggest a good one for me? Please include the link where I can see the screenshots so that I can decide easily.
I came over some pages from this forum. This one looked kinda attractive : CYANVIVO 10.1
I don't know whether it is suitable/safe for my phone.
I have also downloaded the current stable release by CyanogenMod (added on : 2012-06-16 05:39:44) from here.
This seems much more trusted but it's over an year old.
My prime considerations are good looks, faster processing (it has gone very very slow these days) and better battery life but I guess I can't have processing as well as battery simultaneously. In that case, I would be happy to sacrifice a bit of my battery life. But still, if there is a way by which I could conserve my battery when I wish (ex - by using apps which under-clock the processor), it would be really great.
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Hello sir,
A couple of months ago, I sat in your position, (except for the noob part).
I recommend CyanVIVO, which is the first link you provided. It is fast, looks amazing, and can have good battery life. If you want battery life, just customize the governors etc. It is 100% safe as long as you are rooted
The second link is CM7. This is older than CyanVIVO as CyanVIVO is Jellybean (Android 4.2.2) whereas CM7 is Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x)
Obviously CyanVIVO is better if you want innovation, but CM7 is good if you want the old classic android interface.
If you want HTC sense, I recommend Nik Rebirth v3.2 (You can find it in Android development selection.)
If you would like to flash a new radio (improves call signal) click on the one in my signature. Once downloaded, check to see if it is named PG32IMG.zip, if it isn't, rename it. Then put your zipped file onto your sd card. Reboot to bootloader, and the phone should automatically read the file and it should install with type consent. Beware that installing a radio could brick your phone, but it is unlikely. Just do not turn of your phone during the installation process. Also, delete the file after you install it.
If you want rooting guides, there are many different stickies in this section which can help you.
Hope this helps, and don't forget to
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P.S Feel free to PM Me if you run into troubles. Make sure you Google before you perform anything.
LamboBull said:
Hello sir,
A couple of months ago, I sat in your position, (except for the noob part).
I recommend CyanVIVO, which is the first link you provided. It is fast, looks amazing, and can have good battery life. If you want battery life, just customize the governors etc. It is 100% safe as long as you are rooted
The second link is CM7. This is older than CyanVIVO as CyanVIVO is Jellybean (Android 4.2.2) whereas CM7 is Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x)
Obviously CyanVIVO is better if you want innovation, but CM7 is good if you want the old classic android interface.
If you want HTC sense, I recommend Nik Rebirth v3.2 (You can find it in Android development selection.)
If you would like to flash a new radio (improves call signal) click on the one in my signature. Once downloaded, check to see if it is named PG32IMG.zip, if it isn't, rename it. Then put your zipped file onto your sd card. Reboot to bootloader, and the phone should automatically read the file and it should install with type consent. Beware that installing a radio could brick your phone, but it is unlikely. Just do not turn of your phone during the installation process. Also, delete the file after you install it.
If you want rooting guides, there are many different stickies in this section which can help you.
Hope this helps, and don't forget to
Click thanks if I helped you out!
P.S Feel free to PM Me if you run into troubles. Make sure you Google before you perform anything.
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Dear Sir,
Thanks a lot for helping me out. I still have some questions. First being, How long have you been using this ROM (cyanvivo). Is it free of bugs? In case I root my phone and install these custom roms, is it possible to restore everything to as it was (obviously I am not talking about the apps and contacts and my messages.) ? Regarding the radio, I am satisfied with the signal strength so I don't feel the need for it. Is there any other benefit of updating the radio firmware?
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?
zwitter said:
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?
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Yes, rooting is different from installing a custom ROM. rooting is just give you full access to your phone's locked section(eg, you can access to phone's internal memory to delete apps like friend stream). Meanwhile, installing custom ROM is change the whole phone completely. Yes, its possible to root your phone without installing a custom rom, actually, u must root your phone before u install custom ROM. Meanwhile, root your phone without changing ROM is just meaningless for me.
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zwitter said:
Dear Sir,
Thanks a lot for helping me out. I still have some questions. First being, How long have you been using this ROM (cyanvivo). Is it free of bugs? In case I root my phone and install these custom roms, is it possible to restore everything to as it was (obviously I am not talking about the apps and contacts and my messages.) ? Regarding the radio, I am satisfied with the signal strength so I don't feel the need for it. Is there any other benefit of updating the radio firmware?
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?
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Hi,
I have been using CyanVIVO for 2-3 weeks now, and have not noticed any major bugs. Unrooting is possible but I am no expert in that field. Other than signal quality, radios are worthless.
Rooting is the act of gaining full control over your phone. A custom rom is not necessary in order to root. Stock roms are viable options.
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Just to make it clear when flashing a radio the file must me named 'PG32IMG' not 'PG32IMG.zip' like people keep saying. This may be obvious to most people, but not to me =D
pigstew said:
Just to make it clear when flashing a radio the file must me named 'PG32IMG' not 'PG32IMG.zip' like people keep saying. This may be obvious to most people, but not to me =D
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The file name is PG32IMG. If it is a .zip file then it should half the .zip extension automatically. If you have PG32IMG.zip, then the actual whole file name would be PG32img.zip.zip and that wouldn't do anything. I don't see any particular reason for changing radios though, and for me, that particular radio had worst signal for me but once again, it really depends on your location. If the radio does change the signal strength, then it would have to be very minimal. :/
LamboBull said:
Hi,
I have been using CyanVIVO for 2-3 weeks now, and have not noticed any major bugs. Unrooting is possible but I am no expert in that field. Other than signal quality, radios are worthless.
Rooting is the act of gaining full control over your phone. A custom rom is not necessary in order to root. Stock roms are viable options.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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After going through some threads on this forum, I am a bit confused about whether to get a new ROM or not. As for now, I have decided to stay with the original ROM or stock ROM as you say it (I guess).
For now, all I need is to just root my phone so that I can get to install SuperUser app and other apps which ask root permissions. How should I proceed?
Please post the steps I need to perform. I have read some guides on this forum but most of them were also teaching the custom ROM flashing thing so it was kinda more than I needed. Can you please post the bare minimum steps I need to perform in order to achieve what I intend to?
zwitter said:
After going through some threads on this forum, I am a bit confused about whether to get a new ROM or not. As for now, I have decided to stay with the original ROM or stock ROM as you say it (I guess).
For now, all I need is to just root my phone so that I can get to install SuperUser app and other apps which ask root permissions. How should I proceed?
Please post the steps I need to perform. I have read some guides on this forum but most of them were also teaching the custom ROM flashing thing so it was kinda more than I needed. Can you please post the bare minimum steps I need to perform in order to achieve what I intend to?
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Based on the info in your OP, you will need to do the following:
1. Unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com (WARNING: This will perform a System Reset/Wipe Data on your phone, so you will lose your installed apps, texts, call history, etc.)
2. Install a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
3. Flash SuperSu to root your stock ROM configuration.
tpbklake said:
Based on the info in your OP, you will need to do the following:
1. Unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com (WARNING: This will perform a System Reset/Wipe Data on your phone, so you will lose your installed apps, texts, call history, etc.)
2. Install a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
3. Flash SuperSu to root your stock ROM configuration.
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I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?
zwitter said:
I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?
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No, you won't be able to do the revolutionary.io S-OFF method with your current configuration. You would need to perform the downgrade method that is documented in a couple of the sticky threads in this forum before you could S-OFF using revolutionary.io.
Details of my phone:
VIVO PVT SHIP S -ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
eMMC-boot
May 22 2012, 14:22:08
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Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
software number 4.12.720.1
zwitter said:
Details of my phone:
VIVO PVT SHIP S -ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
eMMC-boot
May 22 2012, 14:22:08
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Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
software number 4.12.720.1
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Yes, the revolutionary.io S-OFF procedure will only work with HBOOT 1.13.0000, thus with HBOOT 2.02.0002, you will need to unlock the bootloader and perform the downgrade procedure to get to HBOOT version 1.13.0000
tpbklake said:
Yes, the revolutionary.io S-OFF procedure will only work with HBOOT 1.13.0000, thus with HBOOT 2.02.0002, you will need to unlock the bootloader and perform the downgrade procedure to get to HBOOT version 1.13.0000
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Okay, so I guess I should use the HTCdev method. But I read that using htcdev method will leave a permanent watermark. That would be annoying! right?! So, what should I do?
zwitter said:
Okay, so I guess I should use the HTCdev method. But I read that using htcdev method will leave a permanent watermark. That would be annoying! right?! So, what should I do?
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Once you unlock the bootloader, the tell-tale sign only shows on the HBOOT screen. Where yours currently says "LOCKED" on the top line, it will change to "UNLOCKED".
If you then perform the downgrade procedure and get HBOOT 1.13.0000 installed, the "LOCKED/UNLOCKED" line will disappear. Once you S-OFF with revolutionary.io, the bootloader screen will change to version 6.13.0000 and will show S-OFF instead of S-ON.
Yes, HTC will know that you have unlocked your phone's bootloader, but so what?
tpbklake said:
Once you unlock the bootloader, the tell-tale sign only shows on the HBOOT screen. Where yours currently says "LOCKED" on the top line, it will change to "UNLOCKED".
If you then perform the downgrade procedure and get HBOOT 1.13.0000 installed, the "LOCKED/UNLOCKED" line will disappear. Once you S-OFF with revolutionary.io, the bootloader screen will change to version 6.13.0000 and will show S-OFF instead of S-ON.
Yes, HTC will know that you have unlocked your phone's bootloader, but so what?
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Indeed so what. The Incredible S is a discontinued device and therefore warranty is long gone. Yes its true that an HTC engineer can refuse to fix your phone if it does get damaged but the fixes cost a good amount of money anyways (like quite a bit of money.
zwitter said:
I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?
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I would recommend this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37190800
Just skip 10. It has everything you need to become fully rooted including s-off
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