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CyanogenMod v4.0.1 Question?

It states in the relases notes that "Not vulnerable to the "one click root" exploit"!
Is he talking about Recovery Flasher that was just leaked/released.
Basically can i use Recovery Flasher and then Flash this Rom right after with No SPL Change or Radio Change From a Never Rooted Phone

What it means is that kernel was patched against this volunerability. You can flash recovery and then this rom but if you were to try using one-click afterwards it would not let you since cyan patched it. Shouldn't matter though cause if you're flashing this rom you already have root.

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He is talking about the kernel vulnerability that allows the one click rooting program to work.
If you don't have a rooted phone and have received no patches or security updates from your carrier, then you are able to take advantage of the vulnerability with the one click root program because if you will flash 4.0.1 after you exploit the kernel vulnerability.
I would suggest upgrading to the hard spl or engineering spl at the very least and the danger spl only if you plan to run a hero ROM. I would also suggest upgrading to the latest radio so you can take advantage of improved wireless capabilities (ie better reception, bluetooth etc)

Thanks Both of you im thinking of rooting but dont know if it would be worth it since last time i did i got a brick but i was so dumb and full of myslef after rooting i flashed the danger spl without upgrading the radio and just booted up my phone without going into recovery
Sorry Direct i found the semi relevant post to this one that you were helping out a bunch of noobs

No problem, hope you found what you were looking for somewhere at least.
You might want to take a look at nephron's latest guide. It is really n00b friendly, well written, and updated with all the latest tips and tricks that everyone has amassed since October and months of rooting/modding.
Check it out and good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924

DirectMatrix said:
No problem, hope you found what you were looking for somewhere at least.
You might want to take a look at nephron's latest guide. It is really n00b friendly, well written, and updated with all the latest tips and tricks that everyone has amassed since October and months of rooting/modding.
Check it out and good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
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Omg awesome thread cover just about everything including sd partitons which is what ive been searching for thanks alot

Original question(s) seem to be solved.
Closing thread

Nexus Root newbie question

Hello;
I read about the new rooting method without unlocking the phone and it's very interesting to me
my question is, after i root my phone this way, is it a must to flash another recovery ? or can i just root the phone and leave everything as it is(Stock Rom and Recovery)
i am running FRF83 now and the phone is completely stock,only OTA updates
i want to root to flash updates regarding Arabic support only and still can install official OTA
please help because i don't understand the Rooting idea and it's benefit
regards

Sigh, I guess no one under stands what android DEVELOPMENT means, mods please move to correct section.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

here they are talking about Root in other threads, inside the Development Forum
i think i posted in the right place
and you may have helped instead of asking to move it

From my understanding its not a must to install another recovery such as the RA one that was referenced. You can leave it with the stock ROM and you should be able to flash one with Arabic support. Bit from my understanojy as well you wont be able to get the OTA updates.
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

people say you may receive or manually install Official OTA with stock recovery if the device is still locked and rooted via the new rooting method
and this is what i want to make sure of
thanks for your reply

Moved as not Android Development.

obadvw said:
people say you may receive or manually install Official OTA with stock recovery if the device is still locked and rooted via the new rooting method
and this is what i want to make sure of
thanks for your reply
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You would do yourself a better service by searching and looking in the "sticky" threads above, in the correct section, instead of expecting people to answer you when you post in incorrect one. And it's excellent that they don't answer there, this makes people learn not to do it again.
To your question: the only prerequisite for installing official updates / OTA is having a stock recovery. Both with unlocked bootloader and with "barely working" method stock recovery can be flashed in place, allowing updates. The only question is - why would anyone need it, having the update file here before 90% of the users get "OTA waiting" notifications every time.
You can learn, what rooting means and what it's needed for, if you read "stickies" and look around this forum a bit. It's a question asked by almost everyone.

[Q] Beyond Confused

Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....

Reaper6181979 said:
Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....
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1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.
2. All roms can use the market/play store, Although CyanogenMod requires it to be flashed as a seperate package.
3. Rom updates can vary. If the dev is active and there's bugs or features that still need to be implemented, then you can usually expect regular updates.
4. Maybe, No, Probably.
5. An RUU is a Rom Update Utility. They are official updates from HTC packaged in a .exe file, digitally signed, region coded and model coded.
Bootloader is hboot, accessed by pressing the button combo volume down + power when switching on your phone from a completely shut down state. Here you can do a factory reset and enter recovery or fastboot mode.
ADB is android Debug Bridge, which you can send commands from your PC to your phone typically via USB.

(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one

Reaper6181979 said:
(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one
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You will be installing a custom Rom if you want to notice difference in performance battery life and appearance. I suggest flashing nikhils Rom posted on march 7th as its a excellent first time users Rom, and it still uses sense UI. All he was saying is that you will lose all current apps and their data from your phone but not things like music, pictures, files on sd card etc. Once you root your phone and install the clockworkmod recovery you'll see an option from within it to create a nandroid backup which will back up your current phone state completely including all apps their data and all settings, just in case you mess something up. Once you get s-off and root you will be able to use titanium backup to save your apps data for use on your next Rom after flashing.
As for radios you only need to change them if your going from a froyo Rom to a gingerbread Rom. Otherwise these only slightly increse reception and WiFi strength. Worry about getting s-off, root and flashing your new Rom first than maybe later get into radios.
Follow instructions carefully and you shouldn't have any problems, good luck.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Thank U both Very much - I will Have a look at the Post u stated. If I have any more questions I hope you don't mind me asking more lol

I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether

Reaper6181979 said:
I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether
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I'm not sure if his rom includes a kernel as he is posting links for recommended kernels on the first page.
The s-off page you linked to is not for this phone. Follow lynt's newb guide to unlock the bootloader, install recovery and root. Once rooted you should stop, install titanium, backup all apps and data, then install the 4ext recovery app and use it to flash the latest 4ext touch recovery as this makes things easier for s-on users to flash to the boot partition. Then do a nandroid backup using 4ext recovery.

Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & tpbklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys

letmedanz said:
Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & topklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys
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Just from what Ive read - I 1000% agree and I am new here lol

Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?

Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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Yes you can use revolutionary to root and install clockworkmod which can be used to flash a new rom or not if you just want to stay stock rooted.
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA

Easy steps:
1. Revolutionary s-off
2. Custom recovery
3. Backup everything using recovery
4. Install any rom u want ( guide to install is in the respective threads)
5. Take a backup of SD card in your PC
6. Do whatever pleases you that is related to rooted phones
7. Have fun... You just future proofed your device for another year
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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That is correct. You can use Revolutionary.io to gain S-OFF and install ClockworkMod recovery on your phone and then you are good to go and enjoy the flashing of custom ROMs.

Yeah do revolutionary to get s-off, during the process it'll ask you if you want to install cwm hit yea and report your status here.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Another side note: with your h-boot its generally impossible to brick your phone unless flashing radios (phone dies during process) or ruu's .
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA

Reaper6181979 said:
You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA
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Cool beans, just checked out nikhills trinity Rom and there is no kernel to flash. All you have to do is follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
Another tip: when revolutionary asks you for a code to enter (not sure if it still does) copy and paste it or your going to get problems.
Also during your first wipe before install you can't wipe something wrong, just avoid sd card wiping lol.
When asked to place your .zip of the Rom in the root of your sd card, its unnecessary, you can navigate to it anywhere on your phone.
When the Rom installs for the first time it will take 3-5 minutes on the boot screen.
That should answer most of the questions your going to have in the near future.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

A friend at work showed me his newly rooted Desire with http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/affinity.html Thinking maybe this one due to the fact it has its own Kernel built in. seems very fast and Uber. Anyone else had experience with it with the Incredible s?

Virtuous roms are quite brilliant..
You will not be disappointed...
its a shame that they longer are in the XDA forums,
team virtuous is one of my all time favorites

Having the kernel is common with most roms, you will find your phone is much more 'user friendly' once rooted and custom rom installed. I run virtuous affinity and didn't have to do anything but root,backup and then flash the rom.
Bloatware gone, speed and battery life increased, more customisation available and enjoyment of my device is improved tenfold.
You won't regret it but will wonder why it took you so long to get around to doing it It's like a whole new device....

[Q]

First things first : I am a complete noob to all this.
Details of my phone that might be required:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Sense: 3.6
I am planning to root my phone but unable to decide a good ROM for myself. Can anyone suggest a good one for me? Please include the link where I can see the screenshots so that I can decide easily.
I came over some pages from this forum. This one looked kinda attractive : CYANVIVO 10.1
I don't know whether it is suitable/safe for my phone.
I have also downloaded the current stable release by CyanogenMod (added on : 2012-06-16 05:39:44) from here.
This seems much more trusted but it's over an year old.
My prime considerations are good looks, faster processing (it has gone very very slow these days) and better battery life but I guess I can't have processing as well as battery simultaneously. In that case, I would be happy to sacrifice a bit of my battery life. But still, if there is a way by which I could conserve my battery when I wish (ex - by using apps which under-clock the processor), it would be really great.

zwitter said:
First things first : I am a complete noob to all this.
Details of my phone that might be required:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Sense: 3.6
I am planning to root my phone but unable to decide a good ROM for myself. Can anyone suggest a good one for me? Please include the link where I can see the screenshots so that I can decide easily.
I came over some pages from this forum. This one looked kinda attractive : CYANVIVO 10.1
I don't know whether it is suitable/safe for my phone.
I have also downloaded the current stable release by CyanogenMod (added on : 2012-06-16 05:39:44) from here.
This seems much more trusted but it's over an year old.
My prime considerations are good looks, faster processing (it has gone very very slow these days) and better battery life but I guess I can't have processing as well as battery simultaneously. In that case, I would be happy to sacrifice a bit of my battery life. But still, if there is a way by which I could conserve my battery when I wish (ex - by using apps which under-clock the processor), it would be really great.
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Hello sir,
A couple of months ago, I sat in your position, (except for the noob part).
I recommend CyanVIVO, which is the first link you provided. It is fast, looks amazing, and can have good battery life. If you want battery life, just customize the governors etc. It is 100% safe as long as you are rooted
The second link is CM7. This is older than CyanVIVO as CyanVIVO is Jellybean (Android 4.2.2) whereas CM7 is Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x)
Obviously CyanVIVO is better if you want innovation, but CM7 is good if you want the old classic android interface.
If you want HTC sense, I recommend Nik Rebirth v3.2 (You can find it in Android development selection.)
If you would like to flash a new radio (improves call signal) click on the one in my signature. Once downloaded, check to see if it is named PG32IMG.zip, if it isn't, rename it. Then put your zipped file onto your sd card. Reboot to bootloader, and the phone should automatically read the file and it should install with type consent. Beware that installing a radio could brick your phone, but it is unlikely. Just do not turn of your phone during the installation process. Also, delete the file after you install it.
If you want rooting guides, there are many different stickies in this section which can help you.
Hope this helps, and don't forget to
Click thanks if I helped you out!
P.S Feel free to PM Me if you run into troubles. Make sure you Google before you perform anything.

LamboBull said:
Hello sir,
A couple of months ago, I sat in your position, (except for the noob part).
I recommend CyanVIVO, which is the first link you provided. It is fast, looks amazing, and can have good battery life. If you want battery life, just customize the governors etc. It is 100% safe as long as you are rooted
The second link is CM7. This is older than CyanVIVO as CyanVIVO is Jellybean (Android 4.2.2) whereas CM7 is Gingerbread (Android 2.3.x)
Obviously CyanVIVO is better if you want innovation, but CM7 is good if you want the old classic android interface.
If you want HTC sense, I recommend Nik Rebirth v3.2 (You can find it in Android development selection.)
If you would like to flash a new radio (improves call signal) click on the one in my signature. Once downloaded, check to see if it is named PG32IMG.zip, if it isn't, rename it. Then put your zipped file onto your sd card. Reboot to bootloader, and the phone should automatically read the file and it should install with type consent. Beware that installing a radio could brick your phone, but it is unlikely. Just do not turn of your phone during the installation process. Also, delete the file after you install it.
If you want rooting guides, there are many different stickies in this section which can help you.
Hope this helps, and don't forget to
Click thanks if I helped you out!
P.S Feel free to PM Me if you run into troubles. Make sure you Google before you perform anything.
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Dear Sir,
Thanks a lot for helping me out. I still have some questions. First being, How long have you been using this ROM (cyanvivo). Is it free of bugs? In case I root my phone and install these custom roms, is it possible to restore everything to as it was (obviously I am not talking about the apps and contacts and my messages.) ? Regarding the radio, I am satisfied with the signal strength so I don't feel the need for it. Is there any other benefit of updating the radio firmware?
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?

zwitter said:
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?
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Yes, rooting is different from installing a custom ROM. rooting is just give you full access to your phone's locked section(eg, you can access to phone's internal memory to delete apps like friend stream). Meanwhile, installing custom ROM is change the whole phone completely. Yes, its possible to root your phone without installing a custom rom, actually, u must root your phone before u install custom ROM. Meanwhile, root your phone without changing ROM is just meaningless for me.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

zwitter said:
Dear Sir,
Thanks a lot for helping me out. I still have some questions. First being, How long have you been using this ROM (cyanvivo). Is it free of bugs? In case I root my phone and install these custom roms, is it possible to restore everything to as it was (obviously I am not talking about the apps and contacts and my messages.) ? Regarding the radio, I am satisfied with the signal strength so I don't feel the need for it. Is there any other benefit of updating the radio firmware?
By reading some articles, I came over 3 terms 1) S--OFFing 2) ROOTing and 3) Installing a custom ROM
Is rooting different from installing a custom ROM? The main question I have here is that is it possible to root my phone without installing a custom rom?
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Hi,
I have been using CyanVIVO for 2-3 weeks now, and have not noticed any major bugs. Unrooting is possible but I am no expert in that field. Other than signal quality, radios are worthless.
Rooting is the act of gaining full control over your phone. A custom rom is not necessary in order to root. Stock roms are viable options.
Click thanks if I helped you out!

Just to make it clear when flashing a radio the file must me named 'PG32IMG' not 'PG32IMG.zip' like people keep saying. This may be obvious to most people, but not to me =D

pigstew said:
Just to make it clear when flashing a radio the file must me named 'PG32IMG' not 'PG32IMG.zip' like people keep saying. This may be obvious to most people, but not to me =D
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The file name is PG32IMG. If it is a .zip file then it should half the .zip extension automatically. If you have PG32IMG.zip, then the actual whole file name would be PG32img.zip.zip and that wouldn't do anything. I don't see any particular reason for changing radios though, and for me, that particular radio had worst signal for me but once again, it really depends on your location. If the radio does change the signal strength, then it would have to be very minimal. :/

LamboBull said:
Hi,
I have been using CyanVIVO for 2-3 weeks now, and have not noticed any major bugs. Unrooting is possible but I am no expert in that field. Other than signal quality, radios are worthless.
Rooting is the act of gaining full control over your phone. A custom rom is not necessary in order to root. Stock roms are viable options.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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After going through some threads on this forum, I am a bit confused about whether to get a new ROM or not. As for now, I have decided to stay with the original ROM or stock ROM as you say it (I guess).
For now, all I need is to just root my phone so that I can get to install SuperUser app and other apps which ask root permissions. How should I proceed?
Please post the steps I need to perform. I have read some guides on this forum but most of them were also teaching the custom ROM flashing thing so it was kinda more than I needed. Can you please post the bare minimum steps I need to perform in order to achieve what I intend to?

zwitter said:
After going through some threads on this forum, I am a bit confused about whether to get a new ROM or not. As for now, I have decided to stay with the original ROM or stock ROM as you say it (I guess).
For now, all I need is to just root my phone so that I can get to install SuperUser app and other apps which ask root permissions. How should I proceed?
Please post the steps I need to perform. I have read some guides on this forum but most of them were also teaching the custom ROM flashing thing so it was kinda more than I needed. Can you please post the bare minimum steps I need to perform in order to achieve what I intend to?
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Based on the info in your OP, you will need to do the following:
1. Unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com (WARNING: This will perform a System Reset/Wipe Data on your phone, so you will lose your installed apps, texts, call history, etc.)
2. Install a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
3. Flash SuperSu to root your stock ROM configuration.

tpbklake said:
Based on the info in your OP, you will need to do the following:
1. Unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com (WARNING: This will perform a System Reset/Wipe Data on your phone, so you will lose your installed apps, texts, call history, etc.)
2. Install a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT.
3. Flash SuperSu to root your stock ROM configuration.
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I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?

zwitter said:
I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?
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No, you won't be able to do the revolutionary.io S-OFF method with your current configuration. You would need to perform the downgrade method that is documented in a couple of the sticky threads in this forum before you could S-OFF using revolutionary.io.

Details of my phone:
VIVO PVT SHIP S -ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
eMMC-boot
May 22 2012, 14:22:08
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Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
software number 4.12.720.1

zwitter said:
Details of my phone:
VIVO PVT SHIP S -ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
eMMC-boot
May 22 2012, 14:22:08
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Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
software number 4.12.720.1
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Yes, the revolutionary.io S-OFF procedure will only work with HBOOT 1.13.0000, thus with HBOOT 2.02.0002, you will need to unlock the bootloader and perform the downgrade procedure to get to HBOOT version 1.13.0000

tpbklake said:
Yes, the revolutionary.io S-OFF procedure will only work with HBOOT 1.13.0000, thus with HBOOT 2.02.0002, you will need to unlock the bootloader and perform the downgrade procedure to get to HBOOT version 1.13.0000
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Okay, so I guess I should use the HTCdev method. But I read that using htcdev method will leave a permanent watermark. That would be annoying! right?! So, what should I do?

zwitter said:
Okay, so I guess I should use the HTCdev method. But I read that using htcdev method will leave a permanent watermark. That would be annoying! right?! So, what should I do?
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Once you unlock the bootloader, the tell-tale sign only shows on the HBOOT screen. Where yours currently says "LOCKED" on the top line, it will change to "UNLOCKED".
If you then perform the downgrade procedure and get HBOOT 1.13.0000 installed, the "LOCKED/UNLOCKED" line will disappear. Once you S-OFF with revolutionary.io, the bootloader screen will change to version 6.13.0000 and will show S-OFF instead of S-ON.
Yes, HTC will know that you have unlocked your phone's bootloader, but so what?

tpbklake said:
Once you unlock the bootloader, the tell-tale sign only shows on the HBOOT screen. Where yours currently says "LOCKED" on the top line, it will change to "UNLOCKED".
If you then perform the downgrade procedure and get HBOOT 1.13.0000 installed, the "LOCKED/UNLOCKED" line will disappear. Once you S-OFF with revolutionary.io, the bootloader screen will change to version 6.13.0000 and will show S-OFF instead of S-ON.
Yes, HTC will know that you have unlocked your phone's bootloader, but so what?
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Indeed so what. The Incredible S is a discontinued device and therefore warranty is long gone. Yes its true that an HTC engineer can refuse to fix your phone if it does get damaged but the fixes cost a good amount of money anyways (like quite a bit of money.

zwitter said:
I came over this tuorial :
http://www.developerhelpdesk.com/how-to-root-your-htc-incredible-s/
Is it alright?
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I would recommend this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37190800
Just skip 10. It has everything you need to become fully rooted including s-off
Click thanks if I helped you out!

Completely stock, S-on, 4.3 Sprint htc one. How do i flash/unlock?

Hi
I have a sprint HTC One, 4.3, stock, not rooted, locked, everything as in the factory settings.
I need this thing sim unlocked. Went around only to see guides that assume you have your device half-ready for the procedure-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491840
"Don't flash it wet". What the hell does that mean?
I went around to search some more and see that to flash a rom, i need to be S-off.
Ironically, in another thread it said that to go S-off on 4.3........... i have to be on a custom rom.
My goal is very, very simple:
I just need to flash the rom in the link, that's all.
Can anyone please help and tell me what do i need to do and what goes where? i'm really at a loss, didn't touch any HTC device since the desire.

Pika007 said:
Hi
I have a sprint HTC One, 4.3, stock, not rooted, locked, everything as in the factory settings.
I need this thing sim unlocked. Went around only to see guides that assume you have your device half-ready for the procedure-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491840
"Don't flash it wet". What the hell does that mean?
I went around to search some more and see that to flash a rom, i need to be S-off.
Ironically, in another thread it said that to go S-off on 4.3........... i have to be on a custom rom.
My goal is very, very simple:
I just need to flash the rom in the link, that's all.
Can anyone please help and tell me what do i need to do and what goes where? i'm really at a loss, didn't touch any HTC device since the desire.
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I suspect "Don't flash it wet" was a mere typo and was intended as "Don't flash it yet."
With that said -- if you read the remainder of the instructions you probably should have figured that out. And to flash a ROM, you do *not* need to be S-OFF.
What all this tells me is you really, really need to read all of the q&a page @bigdaddy619 created for all HTC One users. Everything is in there -- it will point you to the correct threads to read / view (videos) to unlock, root, obtain S-OFF, whatever. But honestly, take the time to read -- you have a nice device and the threads here are littered with folks jumping the gun and ending up in misery.

I actually read that thread entirely- Unfortunately it never reminds if you need to be S-off or not to flash a rom, nor does it say explicitly "you don't have to be s-off to flash a rom"
This thread was made for the sole purpose of not jumping the gun, and not ending with a disaster.
Now that i know that s-off is not relevant to the case, i can unlock my bootloader, flash a recovery and flash the rom with a clear mind and no fear my device would brick due to wrong procedures.
Thanks.
-That said, unfortunately, the guides don't update while software versions do. Most of the guides go up to 4.2.2, so i don't know what will or won't work on 4.3

-please delete. double.

Pika007 said:
That said, unfortunately, the guides don't update while software versions do. Most of the guides go up to 4.2.2, so i don't know what will or won't work on 4.3
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Most of us flash 4.3, works fine. Beware of file system changes, obviously, between older (e.g., 4.1 based ROMs) and later versions. You'll end up with 'lost files' that you have to fixup otherwise -- most particularly nandroids.
If you use TWRP -- just make sure you turn off the screen timeout or you'll get screwed when it turns off -- all too often you can't get the screen back on with out a 'hold-forever power/vol-down until it reboots' operation. I use PhilZ recovery because it's solid, no screen issues, charges the battery, has proper OTG support, and supports both TWRP and CWM style nandroids.
Hope it goes well for you.