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I have been reading a lot about this rooting of the phone just so you can install a fix that will get rid of all the so-called Lag issue. Now, I really like to know why is it a MUST to be able to root your phone just to increase the speed of your phone? I do not get it. Are'rt the available programs in the market, to shut down unwanted programs down, sufficient? Like Task killer etc.
I am ordered my phone and hopefully will be getting it soon. But it worried me that the first thing I have to do is 'Root' my phone because of programs running in the background? Does not sound too logical to me.
Samsung is coming out with a new firmware or update next month, so is it really neccessary that I start messing up my phone for something that will be officially available to the public?
Is this lag on every single new Samsung Galaxy S phone on the market?
Is definitely NOT a must to root your phone! It depends from what you need!
New android devices this days, specially those who have a Snapdragon Cpu, I think they don't have ANY lag problems because they are superfast!!
And the purpose of the root is definitely NOT a multitasking problem or how many app they are running in the background....
I don't know about the Samsung in particular, but I think that you won't have any lag problem or whatever if you buy it...
Rooting your phone invalidate your warranty and could brick it, and since now you are "new" to the rooting experience (from what I understood), I recommend you to wait and see if you just like it with the official rom..
Just to make you understand what a root is... I have and HTC Hero and my CPU is a Qualcomm 525 mhz (pretty old ) and I wanted to give that extra power needed to use also new apps and updates from this days that otherwise I won't be able to use at their best with my old phone.
With the root gained I could overclock my CPU up to 730 mhz, use apps like "titanium backup" or "APP2SD", update my old 1.5 android to a new and superfast Froyo 2.2 that otherwise my Hero would never get, and basically customize my phone in many differents way.... understood?
I hope I helped you...
Thanks for the reply. I understand you clearly but haven't read the new Samsung Galaxy S many posts and that how majority of the folks are rooting because of lag issues, is what made me make this thread in the first place.
As mentioned in my first post I will be a new Samsung Galaxy S owner and was trying to prepare myself by reading many( and I do mean many) post about Samsung Galaxy S, just to get myself familiar with the phone through the eyes of other owners while I wait for my phone to arrive.
Most seem to be rooting their phones so they can install some lagfix. Well it seems whatever lag they are experiencing seems to have been all cured up after this wonderful lagfix. I just wanted to know if it was really necessary to start on this course, immediately after getting my new phone?
No.
Stock firmware isn't that awful.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
Some people just love to get all the juice out of their device, just like with PCs and overclockers.
It's not must thing for everyone. Aspecially if you got no time for it or real need.
I rooted my device to add hebrew fonts for example. Never applied lag fix.
Thanks Mike. Good to hear it. Are there anything I should keep in mind, like programs that will be a necessity to my new phone?
BTW, I heard the SGS has a GPS issue that will be fixed with an update from Samsung.
Many ppl will recomend you some kind of task killers as the first must program...but I dont really think that is needed in android os (actually it can decrease performance).
So maybe the only must app is...Barcode Scanner to help you download all the other cool apps!
About the GPS problem, yes there seem to be some kind of a problem, but I never noticed anything that horrible. Maybe because I use GPS only once or twice a week, or maybe my geo location is blassed with multiple satelites, I really don't know.
If you going to relay on your SGS as main navigation device, maybe you should wait for froyo update to see whats fixed and what isn't.
Thanks Mike. No, I do not use GPS often so I can survive without to a point, maybe. Perhaps, maybe if I need to find a particular location while on foot, that I do find it handy. Otherwise I use a proper scale GPS system in my car.
So, I can wait for the Froyo update that s suppose to come next month.
My brother in law has an unrooted SGS running the stock Australian firmware. He still replaced the launcher with LauncherPro, which made his phone a little smoother. It's definitely still quite fast and usable.... just not as fast and usable as mine with the JM5 firmware and lag fix
Appreciate the input Jimmy. I think I'll wait until the Froyo update and GPS fix to be officially release and see how it behaves before making any major changes to my phone. As long as it does not stop me from enjoying all the benefits of the apps market and whatever enjoyment there is for this phone.
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No.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
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December? I thought it was going to be a LOT sooner (I thought September)..
You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.
cavinsoo said:
You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.
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Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this..
That being said, you don't really need to do much these days. You possibly need to root for lagfixes (I've never used them though). I don't really care about the lag that much honestly. But unless you are messing with the operating system, there generally isn't any need to root. I am running an unrooted phone now, and it does everything I want. But each to their own...
andrewluecke said:
Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this...
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That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?
I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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sareen said:
I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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Like I said, I'm going to wait for the official Samsung Froyo update that is suppose to retify all the issues, both Lag and GPS.
As for the battery issue. I just started a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7799467&postcount=1
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I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
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I'm on JM1 updated via KIES, not rooted or lagfixed and mine is "Blazing fast"
ebue said:
That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?
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From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS
Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.
kcharng said:
Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.
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I guess that prettyuch sums it up But what happens when Samsung releases the new and official firmware that supposely does all that you have mentioned( I am assuming so); don't you have to go back to the original Firmware to be able to update to the new one?
ging3 said:
From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS
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Ok.. Clearly, there is a lot of wrong info out there.. Root access is not needed at all for running beta firmware.
I've tried CyanogenMod, I really have. I just can't seem to get it going correctly without HORRIBLE slowdowns and other crap that just doesn't make it worth it to me.
For example, I would be in an app or doing something else on my phone, then I exit the app. I pull up my app list to find ALL of the icons bunched up in the top left corner. They then SLOWLY start to space themselves out, as if they were all reloading one by one. This was one of the many problems I had with CM that just made me go back to legit.
Other problems included slowdowns in just about everything else I did, and the Market FCing every time I tried to open it (probably unrelated, but I'm not sure).
I'm wondering if I may have done something wrong (even though I followed the steps perfectly, and I'm hardly a 'noob' at this kind of stuff), or if that's just how it's going to run on a G1.
I just want a custom rom, preferably with Apps2SD (most roms have it nowadays, right?), that won't run like crap on my phone. I hope that's not asking for too much. :]
bump?
I really want to get this thing upgraded again, but without being slow..
Try superF or sparksmod there pretty fast
I`ve had my SGS for a few months now and I`ve played around with this and that, but the only thing I have`nt tried (and I`m not sure of) is flashing a new ROM and or Kernel.
Would I gain anything if I changed my stock 2.1 Eclair kernel?
I noticed I have some options in OLCF, is it as easy as selecting one and see if it improves anything?
As for the ROM`s I know there thousands out there, but do any of them increase performance in anyway shape or form?
It can be soul draining searching and looking through all these forums, sometimes its just easier to get a professionals option.
Cheers.
Would I gain anything if I changed my stock 2.1 Eclair kernel?
Yes do you not have the Froyo update for the phone yet .
As for the ROM`s I know there thousands out there, but do any of them increase performance in anyway shape or form?
Again yes but many ROMs are a work in progress rather than a finished article .
You need to read all the sticky s relative to ROMs and flashing before looking at a new ROM . To many dont understand and brick the phone .
Personally i would be looking to your official upgrade to Android 2.2 via Kies .
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Yea, I bought my SGS GT-I9000 with Optus during early Dec 2010, after installing the latest Kies program on my PC it connected fine and updated to Android 2.2 Froyo.DTJP5 (later in Dec) fine.
Haven't rooted nor tried to apply any Lagfixes.
Have reset it to factory default settings a couple of times.
I am quite disappointed with the general performance of the unit - often slow menu navigation and app options selections & closing etc., and surprised such apparent slowness is so significant.
Am researching and browsing various sites about it, and will certainly take steps to improve it at some stage, hoping in the short term that Samsung will include improvements to the file system "stuttering" and other reported slowness in the next official firmware update.
I`ve read a few post`s saying that Froyo 2.2 was`nt that much different and really not that worth getting, I`ve rooted mine and applied OCLF and it does fly, no and again it slows down a bit but I`ve apps going in and out of it like a porno movie.
That`s the main reason I dont change doing a ROM myself, cause I`m afraid I`d "brick" it. Maybe in time custom ROM`s will be made "official" and safe, even to idgits like me.
There`s only some much reading on here I can do before me brain goes qoiwehfdowjdbcw.
Thanks for the advice, I dont want to reck me phone yet, the wife will kill me!
Wanted to use kies, but am running win 7 64bit,kies doesnt see my phone, gave up, and finally odin hacked it.
Well worth it, now it is a real phone.
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I`ve read a few post`s saying that Froyo 2.2 was`nt that much different and really not that worth getting, I`ve rooted mine and applied OCLF and it does fly, no and again it slows down a bit but I`ve apps going in and out of it like a porno movie.
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that was exactly what I thought until I upgraded to a custom ROM (Darky in my case, but any will do). The speed and functionality improvements are amazing. Aside of that, you'll get updated stock apps and a much improved Market.
Be sure to read a lot and back up everything, though.
So what are the key things I need to know in order to get the right ROM?
From what I`ve read so far, I get ROM Manager, install CWM through this and select what ROM I want?
Is it that easy? I already have a Titanium backup....
Hello everyone,
I have recently upgraded from Windows mobile (tilt2) to Samsung Captivate (att)
I am pretty upset that they are taking forever to release the update and I would like to install a custom rom with Froyo, and without the bloatware!
So my questions are: (ive tried to do a ton of research so far so but am confused with this cant get definite answers)
I know it comes down to preference, but I would like to know which Rom is the most stable, best battery life, and good performance out of all the roms. I was considering the Firefly or the andromeda, or cognition...but maybe a better option? Which would be best for me, im not big into themes, just want best reliability, battery life is a huge thing for me as well. So which is best for me?
Also, I am confused with all these modem versions, my 3g currently is slow as ish on my 2.1 stock rom download speed is sad in my area and i get atlest 3-4 bars.
I rarely break 200kbps. meanwhile i see ppl getting 1mbps speed with their iphone sitting right next to me!!! So speed is important for me too. (internet and OS)
My last concern is will it be possible to do a complete backup of my current stock rom just incase i need to revert for warranty purposes?
I read the guide to upgrade the roms, watched the videos, nd plan to do it again b4 i attempt then follow directions very very carefully as i do it....
I was ok with flashing WinMo roms...but android is very different and it seems alot more confusing to me (maybe because i am new to it)
Im scared to brick my beautiful new phone...i love it so much.
but i feel i am held back with 2.1...no flash, crappy gps, and the custom roms im seeing are amazing looking!!!
So please help me with answers to my couple questions...
basically best rom for reliablilty, battery life, performance with best modem too.
Least amount of bugs, and theme isnt too big for me. the other things much more important!
And if im able to revert to stock no problem for warranty (if necessary)
so far my phone is AWESOME! but 2.2 is way better with flash and better gps.
Sorry for long post...THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS!!! YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
(u guys have dozens of versions of Froyo for captivate, and ATT cant even put out one! go figure!)
Well stock is in my 4shared...link in my sig. As for ROMs it always varies. Flash any you want. Only thing you need to check is if your 3 button recovery works. If it does your golden and flash away.
Sorry i am on my phone and its after 2am..... so no links
If you have really researched you would know there is no definitive answer to your question. Each rom has the chance to react differently between phones. Asking which rom is the best depends on YOUR phone and the combination of kernel/modem vary as well. Read up on how to properly installation rom. Read how to recover your phone from a bootloop/semi brick state. Readhow to use odin to flash to stock if you get that soft brick. Also learn how to make a jig if all else fails. Once all that is in placestart flashing roms to see which one is best for your phone.
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i knew i was gonna get that answer lol....
I have read the guide...i plan on reading again and again...
its not easy stuff for a noob...
and i am very computer literate.
But anyway...I have a Captivate, and i was watching rom reviews i remember josh saying that the firefly was good for day to day use.and that is what i would like.
I was just hoping for ur guys opinions. what worked best for u.
I saw alot of ppl were sayin the andromeda was saying it was a favorite among alot of people, great battery life too...
so i hope i can get some good answers from everyone...i would like to flash once with a great rom, and just chill wit it...
I did do research. alot of research. but i guess u must have learned everything over a period of months...but for me im tryin to cram everything i learned so far in 2-3 days.
i wanna flash but i dont want to mess anything up.
seems like it is not likely to hard brick the phone....and usually it can be recovered no problem...
i will continue my research, i was just hoping to get answers from much more experienced people than me...
I have a ATT Samsung Captivate (us version)
Which would the best rom for me to start with. (battery life, performance, and reliability/least bugs) are 3 most important things to me.
Themes are not as important to me.
Im goin to lay down. hopefully get some good answers when i wake up!
Keep in mind guys, IM BRAND NEW HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYONES BRILLIANT MINDS!
and i appreciate ur hospitality in advance!
thanks guys!
It takes more than a couple days of reading to get a understanding on how all of this works on the Captivate.There really isn't any crash course to take to accomplish what you want.Time is your friend..not your enemy on this..The more time you take..the more information you have before you.
Each phone (this includes yours) reacts differently to all the various themes..kernels..modems..and roms. Each person that does this..needs to find the best combination that will give them what they are hoping to achieve...ie: looks..speed..stability..battery life..download speed..gps..ect...
What you have to do..is find a rom you are interested in..read the thread from start to current..and then decide if what is being said about it will match your wants & needs.Then find out what modem works best on your phone ... in your area... to give you the best signal reception.. download speeds..voice clarity..and battery life. Same for the kernels..which one will work properly with the modem..that gives you good stable performance without changing your download speed..Both must work in conjunction with each other.
Everyone has favorites..on each item..and just because a certain combination works superbly for my phone..doesn't mean it will work for you..The beauty of Android..is you have the chance to change each part to make your phone perform as you want it..You have a multitude of choices...so..where to begin...
For a starting point..here is what I would do..Ensure your phone has the 3 button recovery..If it does..download the correct Odin..If it doesn't..download the Odin with the 3 button recovery fix in it..Download and install the correct drivers for your phone..Read the entire Odin threads for each..from start to finish..and memorize the proper sequence of how to properly flash back to stock..Download the update.zip file to your PC..as well as the 1 click root program..this way you have both...the update.zip file gives you root very easily..and having that file will save you a lot of time..and the 1 click root/un-root if you need to return to 100% stock for some reason..It's a real good idea to learn how to do all of this before you flash any custom rom..Then you can start prepairing to change your phone..flying blind on doing this can lead to messing up your phone..so..be prepared to invest a lot of time reading everything you can first..
Make several folders on your pc/mac that will contain different roms...theme...kernels...modems..gps tweaks...wi-fi fixes..then start filling those folders up..
Then you can learn how to flash themes..roms..kernels..and modems..and you do that by reading and studying how to on each of those threads..There is a ton of information to go over...
Now you have a idea of why folks won't just say what you should do...There is so many different combinations to choose from..and for a n00b it is overwhelming..but you have to start by having an idea of what you want..what you want it to look like..and how you want it to perform..and then assemble the various items..and then assemble it yourself..Many of the Custom roms..have attempted to do this for you..and many prefer having someone do it for them..than attempt to learn how to do it for themselves....Some are full featured roms..others are stripped down version..that you have to download what you need for it..In the end..many of us have take a little from each..and mix and match to get our phones where we want them to be..because of what I underlined above..There is a lot more to learn..but..in time..you will..cause we all do learn new stuff about them everyday we work with them..The more you learn..the more you can change..
Hope this helps
Mac
All of the ROMs are different even though they are kinda the same (I don't know if that makes sense), but I would do as smoke said, verify your 3 button recovery works and find one of the many roms out there that sounds like it appeals to you. I started out using Cognition until one Saturday I woke up and looked through the forums and I found another rom that looked good. I didn't know how it ran or anything, I just liked the look of it. That weekend I flashed 4 different ROMs until I found the one that I liked best. Since then I stuck with the same 2-3 devs. It took me a while to get comfortable flashing but after a while you'll find yourself flashing in the middle of afternoon traffic.
Many of the people are helpful here and are more than happy to help. Just keep in mind that what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa. A lot of the threads have 100s if not 1000s of posts and that can be pretty intimidating but honestly I just catch up on the last few pages and I'm kinda tracking. Also many of the devs have IRC rooms to chat for any questions.
Check this thread out here and this one here for some additional help.
Happy Flashing!!
This is a basic tutorial I wrote up a few months ago for the basic flashing back to stock. It has the link for Odin 1 Click, and for Windows drivers, which you'll need:
Flash to Stock JF6:
1. Download Odin One Click from: http://www.mediafire.com/?0w2y31maz8mdom4
2. Download your Windows Drivers from:
Windows 64bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?3dh4d6up72me9re
Windows 32bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?0b45zo7o75rc5d5
3. Make sure your USB cable is connected directly to the back of your computer, not a USB hub or to a front connection and all of your drivers have been properly installed
4. Do not connect your USB cable yet.
5. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
6. Turn your phone off
7. Remove your SIM card and Micro SD if you have one
8. Open Odin One Click
9. On your phone, press and hold the Volume up and the Volume down buttons. Do not touch the power button
10. While holding them, insert your USB cable, wait for a couple of seconds and a yellow triangle with the Android figure will show up
11. You’ll see in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
12. Press “Start”
13. Do Not mess with your phone at all
14. When it is done, your phone will reboot and Odin will display “Removed”
15. Unplug your USB cable from your phone
16. If you are proceeding to Master clear, you must close Odin BEFORE Master Clear
Master Clear:
1. Ensure you have backed up all of your information onto your Micro SD or your desktop BEFORE doing this. IT WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL SD!!
2. Make sure to remove your SIM and Micro SD if you have one
3. With your USB cable disconnected from your phone, open Odin One Click
4. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
5. Connect your USB cable to your phone
6. You’ll in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
7. Click “Master Clear”
8. When the Master Clear has completed, your phone will reboot
9. You’ll need to re-enable USB Debugging again
Remember to take what you read with a grain of salt; like it's been said before, your device can act very differently than someone else's in the thread you are reading. So your milage may vary. Also remember not to be turned off by the negatives you read in a thread, some people just like to nitpick and complain. For ME, I find that if you take the theme, and set it aside, that what you're looking for is a ROM that works for your device. At the core they are pretty much the same, and any thing you don't really like as far as the theming is concerned, can be changed. So what I think you need to find is a ROM/Kernel/Modem combo that gives you good marks on the basics; call quality, WiFi, BT, signal, if the signal/call quality isnt quite right, take a look at a new modem, if there is a little hickup in the functionality, try a different kernel.
My own piece of advise, stay away from the kernels that are OC'd until you are well versed in the flashing and so on. They can cause some problems, and I personally find aren't needed.
I'm partial(as you can see by my signature) to the Phoenix ROM. It's 2.2.1 i9000 based, where as Adams other ROM Firefly, is Rogers 2.2. Over and above all things, they are great threads, and most everyone is really, really helpful
Good luck and happy flashing
thanks so much for the reply. i def read ur tutorial before!
i actualy was wondering if that would set back to stock rom, woul that be stock so i can send back the phone if i need to for warranty purposes?
thanks for all the replies!!
i did alot of research, i think im going with the cognition rom....
seems to be the best for what i want for...
just straight up reliability, performance an battery life. but reliability above all.
maybe if that isnt good for my phone, then i will try firefly.
i already got all the ddriverrs, software, etc...
im just nervous to go thru with it because im scared of breakin my beautiful phone!! (i was also scared bout doin custom roms to my winmo phones in the past, but once i get past the fear and actually do it, i usually find it to be a simple process...)
please excuse my errors, my keyboard on my laptop is retarded...
Thanks again guys!
If anyone has any tips for a first timer, please feel free to let me know!!
Thanks!
Ok, I have been a little confused with this, and pretty much this is my major concern before i go ahead and flash...
Pretty much my worry is backing up the nvdata information...
I feel this is by far the most important step. And if it is at all possible i would like to extract this data somehow and store it on my computer hard drive, on a cd, and thumb drive (to be redundant- just incase i ever need it again).
once i figure out how to be safe with that vital data, i plan on goin ahead and flashin!
I was readin up on the phoenix rom too...
looking at all these roms makes me feel like im at a restaurant and i cant choose!
nv data is only important if you use kies.
Dl either
Root explorer
Super manager
Android mate
Find efs folder on your phone, copy and paste on your sd
Mount phone move to pc
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the popular custom roms. Virtually all of them are better choices than stock. Your choice for Cognition is a good one. I have enjoyed it in the past. I'm currently running Perception 10.3 from the same developer (DesignGears). His work seems consistently high...but many others do great work, too.
Titanium Backup (market) is a good application for backing up key apps + data. Also, it can sync with a dropbox account if you have one. Once you install your new rom, you can then use Titanium backup to restore missing apps and data. (just don't restore system data to avoid messing up a new rom). It might be a good thing to practice with Titanium prior to flashing a new rom just to make sure you can delete and restore a critical application and its data.
ok so i rooted my phone, i backed up everything with titanium as per the guide.
so if i just use the clockwork recovery to install cognition rom then it will carry over the imei number and EVERYTHING else?
I ccant figure out how to save this data the efs folder or w/e...its really too complicated.
it seems like im just about half way done. since i have stock rom already, i dont need to use the odin to restore.
So clock work to install and restore with titantium.
So if i just install cognition as per instructions on the sticky thread, then i wont have ANY problems as far as my phones 'identity' (droid id, imei, etc..)?
Im guessin cwm will restore this autommatically, or it will just carry over?
i have a feeling that today i will finally have 2.2!
i just need to clear this one last concern up!
THANKS EVERYONE!
I am lazy so I did not read all the post.
Did you use android id changer to save your current id?
I have never backed up my efs file.
Only restore user apps with titanium
no i didnt do that. lol
this is why im sooo nervous about flashing this rom...
cuz i read the instructions on the sticky forum and it seems straight forward...
then i start reading posts about how u need to back up nvdata, efs folders, now im hearing about android id changer....
im glad i didnt flash it yet, cuz i might have avoided a mistake!
Pretty much i just rooted my phone, backed up apps and data like said in the instructions on the sticky topic. I downloaded cognition rom...
and i am hesitant to proceed...
i dont want to make a serious mistake!!!
is this android id changer a nessisity?
i been reading all over the boards and it is confusing the hell out of me!!!
Deep breath
You are flashing a rom not recreating the wheel.
Android id changer is soo easy to use that it makes no sense not to back up your id. App is free, open it, save id, done.
How about you're contacts, have you backed them up? If you have an external sd, go to contacts, menu, export/import, save to sd
it is not hard, it just takes some reading and getting used to. In a month you will be flashing with your eyes closed.
If you want help along the way drop me a pm
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
xdahgary said:
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
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Android id is a unique identifier for your phone. When you flash a custom rom it gets changed. It can cause some issues with downloading from the market, and some games identify your device using that id.
I have flashed and not restored my id without issues before, but it is real easy and is a way of troubleshooting before a problem happens
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
xdahgary said:
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
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You can grab it if you go back to stock or if you have a nandroid of stock there is a way to get it
thanks mcord....so i dont need to worry about anything else then?
i backed up wit titaanium...all contacts are saved on my gmail...
i am goin to back up the id then ill proceeed with the flashing..
my main concern was the imei and stuff like that...but it doesnt seem like it will b an issue...
thanks buddy!
I don't own a i9000 myself. My GF, however, does. And she's getting kind of tired of the lags, the reboots and so on with the stock ROM. I've plenty of experience with rooting and custom ROMs (well, enough any way), but I don't know anything about the i9000 - and I must say, this has to be the subforum with the worst documentation (or lack thereof) on the whole of xda! Reading up on the device is difficult - seeing as all the sticky threads were last updatet in 2011 - or even 2010. The ROM-threads mention NOTHING about anything special, no FAQ, no bug list, no nothing, and yet, as I read more in mor and more threads, apparantly most of them have one of thre (or four) different partition layouts and/or data/adata/cahce or whatever "fix" - without mentioning at all until some poor user post a problem which is due to one of these (completely unmentioned) fixes.
This probably works well for someone who has been coming here twice a week since 2010, and you, of course, do as you wish! But for me it is impossible to get a grip of anything with this device, as there are no real proper sources for information (a least not stickied) and I can't really read some thousand forumpages in the hopes of getting a glimpse of knowledge now and then. So I am totally dependent on some of you guys to help me (and my GF) out. Iæve listed some questions/topics below, and hope you can answer some of them. Alo, sorry for the wall of text before even reaching the questions.
NAND:
Q1: There are two different versions of the i9000, one with one small fast NAND chip and a big slow one (only /system partition on the fast one)? There are most of the latter?
Q2: Beacause of this, different ROMS have different partitions to put some of the data on the fast partition?
Q3: There are no way to know which partition layouts a ROM uses unless t mentions it (which they very seldom seem to do)?
Q4: Are there two or more different partition layouts for putting something on the fast partition?
Data fixes
Q5: There are multiple ways to handle that here aren't enough space on the fat nan for all app data. Is there an up-to-date description and comparison between them, or could someone enlighten me about the key differences?
Q6: Are there any of them who doesn't require any manual intervention to move app data to and from the fast partition, so it doesn't fill up? Or at least has a GUI to manage it?
Q7: Would a i900 with a fast nand benefit from having a ROM without any of these fixes and such?
Q8: Anything else i9000-specific I should know?
10: Doe anyone have a suggestion for a low maintenance ROM or ROM+kernel combo? The clue here is that it should require no maintenance and be a stable as possible. Speed and gaming performance is not an issue as long as it isn't worse than stock.
11: Is it possible to "re-stockify" the pone if it needs to be sent in for repair, without a trace of rooting. (This, I could probably search for an answer to myself, but while I'm here...
This was a lot! I still hope some of you could find the time to post an answer to a question or two. I'd really appreciate it!
You don't have to know anything
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I don't own a i9000 myself. My GF, however, does. And she's getting kind of tired of the lags, the reboots and so on with the stock ROM. I've plenty of experience with rooting and custom ROMs (well, enough any way), but I don't know anything about the i9000 - and I must say, this has to be the subforum with the worst documentation (or lack thereof) on the whole of xda! Reading up on the device is difficult - seeing as all the sticky threads were last updatet in 2011 - or even 2010. The ROM-threads mention NOTHING about anything special, no FAQ, no bug list, no nothing, and yet, as I read more in mor and more threads, apparantly most of them have one of thre (or four) different partition layouts and/or data/adata/cahce or whatever "fix" - without mentioning at all until some poor user post a problem which is due to one of these (completely unmentioned) fixes.
This probably works well for someone who has been coming here twice a week since 2010, and you, of course, do as you wish! But for me it is impossible to get a grip of anything with this device, as there are no real proper sources for information (a least not stickied) and I can't really read some thousand forumpages in the hopes of getting a glimpse of knowledge now and then. So I am totally dependent on some of you guys to help me (and my GF) out. Iæve listed some questions/topics below, and hope you can answer some of them. Alo, sorry for the wall of text before even reaching the questions.
NAND:
Q1: There are two different versions of the i9000, one with one small fast NAND chip and a big slow one (only /system partition on the fast one)? There are most of the latter?
Q2: Beacause of this, different ROMS have different partitions to put some of the data on the fast partition?
Q3: There are no way to know which partition layouts a ROM uses unless t mentions it (which they very seldom seem to do)?
Q4: Are there two or more different partition layouts for putting something on the fast partition?
Data fixes
Q5: There are multiple ways to handle that here aren't enough space on the fat nan for all app data. Is there an up-to-date description and comparison between them, or could someone enlighten me about the key differences?
Q6: Are there any of them who doesn't require any manual intervention to move app data to and from the fast partition, so it doesn't fill up? Or at least has a GUI to manage it?
Q7: Would a i900 with a fast nand benefit from having a ROM without any of these fixes and such?
Q8: Anything else i9000-specific I should know?
10: Doe anyone have a suggestion for a low maintenance ROM or ROM+kernel combo? The clue here is that it should require no maintenance and be a stable as possible. Speed and gaming performance is not an issue as long as it isn't worse than stock.
11: Is it possible to "re-stockify" the pone if it needs to be sent in for repair, without a trace of rooting. (This, I could probably search for an answer to myself, but while I'm here...
This was a lot! I still hope some of you could find the time to post an answer to a question or two. I'd really appreciate it!
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If like I understand this is not your device, then you just have to know that it's going to work well, without any rebots or lags.\
I cen ensure you she's going to engoy the new system, like you probably know.
she can use eather the official cm10http://get.cm/?device=galaxysmtd
official thread
with stock rom, it's good.
also if she has the new line of galaxy s then you can get the fishers version of cm10 in the official thread
it's good, it's not your device so don't mess with that, just install ones and that it.
ps remember to save all data and make sure she knows the google name & password!.
It works great dont wory
Thank you. Heh, you are right, essentially I just want stable everyday user experience for her. So with CM10 there are no need for manually altering anything to run out of space, like it was in CM9? I know it doesn't use a "data ix" anymore, but there is no info about partition layout (or anything else for that matter...) in the CM10 OP. Which seems to have angered someone in the thread that I asked about.
I was thinking of installing CF root first and then backup all of her stuff using Titanium Backup and move pics etc to external sdcard, as I read somewhere that installing cm10 will delete internal SD. Does it? Because the CM10 OP doesn't mention anything about it, and that would be a serious omission. Will external SD in any way be affected?
Sd won't be formatted by itself, but thorough backup is always recommended. If it were my wife's phone I was handling, I'd backup that sd card in a heartbeat
To make a long story short, there's two different partition layouts, one which is best suitable for the newer line of sgs to utilize the faster chip, which fishears cm10 rom has, and one which is sort of a compromise between system space and speed. Check first posts of fishears thread to see if you have the fast chip. Both partition layouts should give you no trouble with storage space, and data fix as in cm9 is a thing of the past.
Seems you've got the right idea, start with gingerbread and cf root in Odin with repartition, then go down the road with your rom of choice. Good luck.
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Mind you, I'm only talking about cm10 based roms here, different partition layouts is not an issue with gb or ics roms.
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