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wow, where to begin?

Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!

First, get to know your phone. Use it as long as you can before rooting, until you get used to it and EVERYTHING it does. When it starts to get boring, ROOT it! By that time you should know every secret the phone offers!

not a big fan of patience... I would like to learn to root it and play around... but nothing brick like...
2.2 would be nice and anything else people recommend, lol....
thx man, goodnight.

Mr.Kakarot said:
Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688000
Inside there's a link, follow the Pre-requisites on that link first... and setup ADB first.

ok so set up that ab thing first then follow the tutorials... also, should I have mentioned it is a *rogers 3g phone (att&t)
thx again and goodnight 4 real

If you barely know how to use it stock.... you should probably figure that out before you go around rooting it, flashing custom ROMs, and trying the latest BETA OS release. Once you've got the stock OS figured out and are getting bored with it, THEN root and move on.

Learn how the phone works. This is no iPhone and the settings with this phone are plentyfull. Have in mind that after you flash a Cyanogen ROM for instance, you will have 4 times more settings to play with, hence the advice to learn the basic functions on your N1. But anyways, you will come to a certain point where the GEEK in you wakes up and you wanting MORE..
DO also know that when you want to root your phone, you need to unlock you phone. Doing this will VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I will also advise you to use your phone for a period of time to see that there are no issues with hardware and build of the phone (buttons, dust under screen, trackball not working, not chargin, loose connectors etc etc..), just to be safe. Coz once you unlock it, there is NO going back to lock it again (at this point)
Setting up ADB and Recovery can be the most struggling with drivers and interface but once that is passed and you start using recovery on a daily or weekly basis, is all smooth ride from there. I guarantee you many hours customizing and experimenting with this phone than any other non-andoid phones you have had in the past.. is pretty much an addiction. i have rebooted this phone more the last 3 months than any other phones in my whole lifetime .
Rule of thumb is always have a recent Nandroid (backup done in recovery) before flashing. Flashing ROM's are usually safe as safe can be. Kernels are not risky to flash either, but remember that Kernels are the ones that controls voltages and speed of you Processor and other things, and flashing wrong Kernels can result in non functioning behavious in your OS and worst case, the processor overheating, so know what you are doing when flashing Kernels. At one point you will start trying out kernels because if you are on a hunt for more battery life, the ROM + Kernel combination are the main things that makes this happens.
Then , a last note: I addvise you to NOT update radios if you don't have any problems with the one you have. The Radio's are the one that controls your ability to call controls your phone's antenna and Wi-Fi. If you DO flash radios and happen to terminate the process, i guarantee you a bricked phone. So beware. If you upgrade to FROYO, one of the processes is flashing a new radio. So let things runs it course once in process.
Have fun trying to optimize your phone to last as long as it can on one battery charge...

If you like to begin in Android World you can start from the following blog
nextworldmobile.com. It has reviews of Android Applications that you must put on your mobile plus Flashing Tutorials etc.

Theunlockr.com is a great website for rooting and anything on the nexus. They also have videos
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pretty valid points from all of you, thanks very much.... I think I will give it a week or atleast the weekend... once I got in on luck.... maybe I will move on
I do buy and sell phones a lot... might be best to wait and see if there is a way to reverse the process and keep warranty intact first?
thx a bunch.

since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now

jblazea50 said:
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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It should definitely be soon, and will give you a chance to have new software and features without voiding your warranty. Win-win :-D

jblazea50 said:
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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I really recommand to do that exact thing:
learn nandroid (backups )
then play with your 2.1
2.2 will be out before you could have learned everything you wanted from 2.1

thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx

Mr.Kakarot said:
thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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You can download Launcher Pro from the Market to replace the current home Launcher. It will allow you to have up to 7 home screens and makes everything a whole lot smoother when you swipe between the screens.

sweeeeet tip bro, thx!

i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there

timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
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yeah, i updated mine via the non-warranty-voiding method, but since i like some of the apps that require root, i had it rooted
to update to frf50 (Froyo) without voiding warranty, you need to download the OTA file and rename to update.zip and place in the root of the SD card
1. power off phone
2. hold down volume down button and press power
3. scroll to recovery and hit power (should take you to screen with an exclamation mark or something similar
4. while holding down power button, press volume up
5. this should take you to stock recovery and you can now apply update.zip from sd card
those may be the correct steps, i don't think i'm missing anything; there's some guide located in the general forum

thx for the app suggestions, I will try them all
as for the above instructions... each site I try to grab 2.2 from.. says it no longer exists? thx

timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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ps: will pandora work in Canada? thx

[Q] Which Route for me... no pun intended!!

Hello, I am in need of a little help. I am a complete noob to android and have no idea really how the system works. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and have decided to root my phone for 2 reasons.. ap2sd and so I can install the lag fix. I have done a bit of reading and chosen the path I wish to take but would like some assurance and pointers. I am also unsure of: If I root my phone does this automatically mean that with a properly partitioned sd card that I can store apps 2 sd or do I still need to flash the handset with a new ROM and if so there I am stuck... I do not know where to begin with searching for the best ROM for me. Also I would like to know if after i've done this will the handset still be able to receive the official updates or will I just need to keep updating it myself!
Here is the rundown as far as i have got so far...
Samsung Galaxy S I9000/XXJF3 Updated!
All the programs for XP i need are downloaded (eg.net3.5/4, samsung drivers)
The root method I thought was best for me was that of TGA_Gunman
The lag fix I had chosen is by Chainfire
I have still to back up the original ROM with ClockWorkMod (Is this easy to do and if I need to use it will it bring me completely back to my original settings for warranty purposes, or is there other things I would need to do?)
Also could someone provide me with a link to the best noob proof SD partitioning method!!
Is there anything I'm missing here, or anything that could be done a better way!! Any and all pointers will be much appreciated....
P.s. I would be wanting to update to the official froyo update when it's available will this cause me problems and if so what must I do!
Thanks in advance
ANDROID NOOB

rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251

AllGamer said:
rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
Thanks... I understand the risks. Bricked my windows omnia twice before I successfully managed to de-brand and update it!! lol... As to what you said about rooting it and staying with whatever firmware I choose? I wouldn't know which one to use. Normally I wouldnt bother with it all but the lag on my phone now is silly, 5sec pauses on black screens. I end up having to kill my inactive apps once or twice a day just to get some usability from it (which I'm not supposed to need to do)..... So with that in mind is there a firmware that is running better that XXJF3.... Also if flashing a new ROM will be more advantageous and easier I am willing to take that route. I had a look at the link you gave for the lag fix... but being honest I feel that is a bit much for me at this moment... there are many one click lag fixes out there that don't intimidate me so much, is there not a reliable one?... The reason the lag fix you posted scares me is that I dont really understand half of whats being said and am not to sure of the process (if i'm honest it's not explained simple enough for idiots like me) Also dont even know what a busybox is let alone have one, The one click options have them in the package. Sorry, I am so dumb and need the easy route!! LOL.... A Step by step dummies guide would be much appreciated.. LOL! But honestly The more I read the more it all confuses me.....
Anxiously waiting any help possible!!... if it's possible!
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hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM

I ma be following this thread as I am a noob as well
Thanks to the patient experts here!!!
Cheers!

AllGamer said:
hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM
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Read some more into the problems with the lag fixes and now see why you were trying to steer me away.... Still way to many bugs for my liking!! I think for now its best like you said to just root and flash a better firmware... But how do I do this, correct me if im wrong:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
Am I missing anything ???
As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no futrther, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...

damdeviousduck said:
As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no further, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...
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Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).

spandsbab said:
Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).
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Yeah I've had the same... The longer the phone is in use the slower mine gets... I'm not leaving apps in the background either... It seems as if it just piles and piles inactive apps into the memory then goes slow!! I cancel the inactive ones and It's fast for a while then BOOM!.. slow again, 5/10 screen lag! unreal they're sayin they know nothing! Just hoping that a new firmware will make it better as the lag fixes look way too buggy still! Good luck with yours.. let me know if you find out any better roots/routes to fix the dam thing!

i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM

damdeviousduck said:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
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As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack

Using JG4. No lag. None zilch wham. I have seen the lag first hand at a local store.
I will not be installing a lag fix until I understand what they are doing so I don't be a tard (brick my phone).

AllGamer said:
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
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Dont quite understand what you mean... "I'll disagree with the lag" you can't disagree with it it's there... whether you have problems with it or not MANY people do!!
sensi_ said:
As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack
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I'm fine up to the point of flashing the formware could you or someone please explain in a bit more detail what ODIN3 is, how it works and what i'm gonna need and what I need to do!! Sorry to be asking so much, but better I ask and get it right than ask for more help on how to unbrick my phone ...LOL
Is it an android program or somethin I put on my PC... also is there anything I would need to do to the phone other than the root!!
EDIT: Why o why do I need to use odin3... From what i'e read all that does is send it back to original settings and firmware... WHICH I HAVE!! I have not even rooted the phone yet, I am gathering enough info before I even begin!!
So back to the point in hand.... I will root my phone back up the ROM with clockworkmod!!
After this I am stuck as to how I flash it with a different firmware one that is more stable and maybe not having issues with lag!!
Which firmware should I pick and how do I get it flashed onto the device!
PLEASE HELP! I need to try something to get rid of this lag it's unbearable! I'm now wondering if there maybe is something wrong with the handset as the lag is really not to be expected 10secs to switch an app... and i've only added bout 15 apps so its not as if I'm expecting alot from the thing!

before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.

AllGamer said:
before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.
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did that played with the phone a little a began to see the lag creep up on me again (I am beginning to think this is a problem with memory more than anything, it just keeps loading inactive apps into the memory till it's full) .... Ran quadrant and had a score of 856 although this means not alot to me... what is the norm... and why does that seem slow.... it is after all a 1ghz processor.....
awaiting any ideas/responses.... maybe I am just being too fussy!!!
While i'm still thinking bout what to do... Anybody got any thoughts on the APK ryanZA has released on the market place.. one click root and lagfix!! some comments that it does nothing and some sayin its runnin quadrant scores over 2k....
IS IT ONLY FOR CAPTIVATE/VIBRANT or will it work with european models???????

if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec

AllGamer said:
if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec
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As I say it doesnt start laggy... it just gets that way after a while of using it!! 'is it then to do with the apps i'm using but them the system manager says its all inactive programs using the space... why does it load so many in!

I have just decided to root and lag fix using Ryans' oneclick apk from the market place... Has worked a treat... Am just waiting for the official JM1 update for mine... Kies wont update my version for now.. Anyway wait and see, got a feeling froyo will be out before they sort out the kies update here! If all else fails wait for the official froyo release and apply it myself with odin!...
thanks for the help!

question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag

AllGamer said:
question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag
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Nope I was getting lag sometimes on a virtually clean handset with only 4 apps installed and the weren't apps that logging any activities at all... think maybe was bad firmware... had re-installation of system today at a samsung repair centre.. see how things go for now!! thanks though...

Kind of a newbie question(s)

I`ve had my SGS for a few months now and I`ve played around with this and that, but the only thing I have`nt tried (and I`m not sure of) is flashing a new ROM and or Kernel.
Would I gain anything if I changed my stock 2.1 Eclair kernel?
I noticed I have some options in OLCF, is it as easy as selecting one and see if it improves anything?
As for the ROM`s I know there thousands out there, but do any of them increase performance in anyway shape or form?
It can be soul draining searching and looking through all these forums, sometimes its just easier to get a professionals option.
Cheers.

Would I gain anything if I changed my stock 2.1 Eclair kernel?
Yes do you not have the Froyo update for the phone yet .
As for the ROM`s I know there thousands out there, but do any of them increase performance in anyway shape or form?
Again yes but many ROMs are a work in progress rather than a finished article .
You need to read all the sticky s relative to ROMs and flashing before looking at a new ROM . To many dont understand and brick the phone .
Personally i would be looking to your official upgrade to Android 2.2 via Kies .
jje

Yea, I bought my SGS GT-I9000 with Optus during early Dec 2010, after installing the latest Kies program on my PC it connected fine and updated to Android 2.2 Froyo.DTJP5 (later in Dec) fine.
Haven't rooted nor tried to apply any Lagfixes.
Have reset it to factory default settings a couple of times.
I am quite disappointed with the general performance of the unit - often slow menu navigation and app options selections & closing etc., and surprised such apparent slowness is so significant.
Am researching and browsing various sites about it, and will certainly take steps to improve it at some stage, hoping in the short term that Samsung will include improvements to the file system "stuttering" and other reported slowness in the next official firmware update.

I`ve read a few post`s saying that Froyo 2.2 was`nt that much different and really not that worth getting, I`ve rooted mine and applied OCLF and it does fly, no and again it slows down a bit but I`ve apps going in and out of it like a porno movie.
That`s the main reason I dont change doing a ROM myself, cause I`m afraid I`d "brick" it. Maybe in time custom ROM`s will be made "official" and safe, even to idgits like me.
There`s only some much reading on here I can do before me brain goes qoiwehfdowjdbcw.
Thanks for the advice, I dont want to reck me phone yet, the wife will kill me!

Wanted to use kies, but am running win 7 64bit,kies doesnt see my phone, gave up, and finally odin hacked it.
Well worth it, now it is a real phone.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

mloc33 said:
I`ve read a few post`s saying that Froyo 2.2 was`nt that much different and really not that worth getting, I`ve rooted mine and applied OCLF and it does fly, no and again it slows down a bit but I`ve apps going in and out of it like a porno movie.
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that was exactly what I thought until I upgraded to a custom ROM (Darky in my case, but any will do). The speed and functionality improvements are amazing. Aside of that, you'll get updated stock apps and a much improved Market.
Be sure to read a lot and back up everything, though.

So what are the key things I need to know in order to get the right ROM?
From what I`ve read so far, I get ROM Manager, install CWM through this and select what ROM I want?
Is it that easy? I already have a Titanium backup....

[Q] Upgrade Nexus One to the Prime or just keep it?

I bought the N1 on the day it came out and it's still going fine. Well I must provide soem caveats here so say it's not the original unit. I have gone through 2 RMA's with HTC and 2 paid for repairs for the power button. The last time the power button failed, the repair only lasted abouit 6 weeks and when I complained they sent me a refurb rather than fix it.
For me the only issues for the N1 are
- flaky touch sometimes (go to suspend and back usually fixes it)
- constantly running out of system memory and all apps I can move are moved to the SD card.
So it's either get a new phone or root the N1. Given that the phone works for what I want rooting and a new firmware might be the answer.
So given that I have never rooted a phone or installed new firmware, can people suggest the most appropriate firmware I should be looking at and the easiest way to get there. The phone is currently on 2.3.6 (OTA).
There is so much conflicting information out there it's hard to know what the best route is.
Thanks

lchiu7 said:
I bought the N1 on the day it came out and it's still going fine. Well I must provide soem caveats here so say it's not the original unit. I have gone through 2 RMA's with HTC and 2 paid for repairs for the power button. The last time the power button failed, the repair only lasted abouit 6 weeks and when I complained they sent me a refurb rather than fix it.
For me the only issues for the N1 are
- flaky touch sometimes (go to suspend and back usually fixes it)
- constantly running out of system memory and all apps I can move are moved to the SD card.
So it's either get a new phone or root the N1. Given that the phone works for what I want rooting and a new firmware might be the answer.
So given that I have never rooted a phone or installed new firmware, can people suggest the most appropriate firmware I should be looking at and the easiest way to get there. The phone is currently on 2.3.6 (OTA).
There is so much conflicting information out there it's hard to know what the best route is.
Thanks
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I have a rooted N1 that I bought in February of 2010, a month after they became available. It was rooted when I bought it on eBay and running one of the CM ROMs. I don't know how to root a phone, sorry.
I DO know how to load ROMs and have variously updated and modded the phone myself. I have been fortunate in that my power button has never failed, but while I was running a series of OTA ROMs (ROMs based on the pure Android released from Google) I noticed that the latest ones disabled the trackball wake feature, meaning that the power button was the only way to wake the phone. I had gotten used to trackball wake with the first CyanogenMod ROM, and so once I learned that the power button was a weak spot, I decided that a CM ROM or a modded AOSP ROM was the only option.
As there were some issues with CM ROMs that took months to work out (see WONK), I went with an AOSP ROM that I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121595 . It's now a dead thread, but the links to the 3.1 version of the ROM is still there. I use the apps2SD version of the 3.1 ROM.
There are several more ROMs that are more recent, but this one is the best one I have ever found. You will need to root your phone and install a custom recovery (like AmonRA or ClockworkMod) to use it, but I have found that everything works well and it is extremely stable. I have over 70 apps on my phone with over 80MB of internal memory still available.
The only problem I have ever had is an intermittent battery drain, which I was able to fix by wiping the cache files (Dalvik and regular caches). The custom recoveries have the ability to do this. Apparently any corruption of the cache files causes excessive battery drain, but wiping them (which causes the phone to rebuild them on the next boot - a 4 minute process!) gives you fresh cache files and fixes the problem.
If you are willing to learn how to root your phone and install a custom recovery, I can recommend that ROM. Once the first part is done, loading a custom ROM is as easy as putting the zipped ROM file on your SD card, getting to the bootloader and telling it to install the zip.

Well just so you know, rooting or installing any ROM will never stop the touch input problems. Its my main dislike about the N1. Apps2SD would solve your storage issues though and all the extra little perks of rooting just sweeten the deal.
Replacing a phone is expensive and just not necessary for the N1 yet. May as well root in my opinion. CM7.1 is now perfectly stable, include trackball wake, can support A2SD as far as I know and has some nice extras too.
As well as that it shouldn't be TOO much longer until we get a decent ICS ROM.
Hope that helps you.

addam360 said:
Well just so you know, rooting or installing any ROM will never stop the touch input problems. Its my main dislike about the N1. Apps2SD would solve your storage issues though and all the extra little perks of rooting just sweeten the deal.
Replacing a phone is expensive and just not necessary for the N1 yet. May as well root in my opinion. CM7.1 is now perfectly stable, include trackball wake, can support A2SD as far as I know and has some nice extras too.
As well as that it shouldn't be TOO much longer until we get a decent ICS ROM.
Hope that helps you.
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Thanks. I never expected the new ROM to fix the touch input problems. That is a fundamental hardware issue.
I was thinking along the same lines regarding ICS. It's gone AOS now and I now see somebody has built a port for the N1 already. So if I wait a bit if I choose to install some custom firmware, if the reports suggest ICS runs fine on the N1 (to confirm that Google didn't release it because there was a performance issue with the N1 and ICS) then that's the route I will take. In for a penny, in for a pound I guess!

lchiu7 said:
(to confirm that Google didn't release it because there was a performance issue with the N1 and ICS)
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The issue is not because of performance, its the system partition size is not enough... Gosh! Did u know Galaxy Nexus's system dump is 600MB+

New to custom roms

So i have never done anything like this before but i have gotten to a stage where i wish to do something to keep this phone going or replace it. Basically a lot of new apps and things need a higher version of android to work that i wish to use mostly 4.4 and above it seems to cover most stuff although higher version will increase its life time for longer so higher versions might be considered. i am pretty sure when i last tried to update the phone software it pretty much crashed and didn't work or got stuck and after leaving it on overnight it was still stuck so i gave up might need to recheck this.
I am also reading over everything in the fact and trying to understand the jargon used and if installing a custom rom is even right for me and just a few questions i have so far and will try to follow up best i can.
So i take it when i install a new rom i will lose all the current data on my phone sort of like formatting on a pc? so i will have to go through and save what i wish off the phone and then re-add it into the phone after a new rom is installed?.
what does v10X or v20A mean and how can i find what mine is? all i can tell its something to do with the android version but i am not to sure exactly.
Information about my phone:
Lg 4x hd (lg-p880)
Android version 4.1.2
kernel version 3.1.10
Purchased from kogan.com.au it defaults to GMT+8:00 taipei standard time after powering off which is very annoying i believe to be Hong Kong stock from memory since the phone was never officially came out in Australia. Has a few apps that i was unable to remove using basic phone interface i turned the updates for them off although it still pops up every now and then some how, would like these removed.
Thanks for any help provided in advance.