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Really! Is it a must you root your phone?

I have been reading a lot about this rooting of the phone just so you can install a fix that will get rid of all the so-called Lag issue. Now, I really like to know why is it a MUST to be able to root your phone just to increase the speed of your phone? I do not get it. Are'rt the available programs in the market, to shut down unwanted programs down, sufficient? Like Task killer etc.
I am ordered my phone and hopefully will be getting it soon. But it worried me that the first thing I have to do is 'Root' my phone because of programs running in the background? Does not sound too logical to me.
Samsung is coming out with a new firmware or update next month, so is it really neccessary that I start messing up my phone for something that will be officially available to the public?
Is this lag on every single new Samsung Galaxy S phone on the market?

Is definitely NOT a must to root your phone! It depends from what you need!
New android devices this days, specially those who have a Snapdragon Cpu, I think they don't have ANY lag problems because they are superfast!!
And the purpose of the root is definitely NOT a multitasking problem or how many app they are running in the background....
I don't know about the Samsung in particular, but I think that you won't have any lag problem or whatever if you buy it...
Rooting your phone invalidate your warranty and could brick it, and since now you are "new" to the rooting experience (from what I understood), I recommend you to wait and see if you just like it with the official rom..
Just to make you understand what a root is... I have and HTC Hero and my CPU is a Qualcomm 525 mhz (pretty old ) and I wanted to give that extra power needed to use also new apps and updates from this days that otherwise I won't be able to use at their best with my old phone.
With the root gained I could overclock my CPU up to 730 mhz, use apps like "titanium backup" or "APP2SD", update my old 1.5 android to a new and superfast Froyo 2.2 that otherwise my Hero would never get, and basically customize my phone in many differents way.... understood?
I hope I helped you...

Thanks for the reply. I understand you clearly but haven't read the new Samsung Galaxy S many posts and that how majority of the folks are rooting because of lag issues, is what made me make this thread in the first place.
As mentioned in my first post I will be a new Samsung Galaxy S owner and was trying to prepare myself by reading many( and I do mean many) post about Samsung Galaxy S, just to get myself familiar with the phone through the eyes of other owners while I wait for my phone to arrive.
Most seem to be rooting their phones so they can install some lagfix. Well it seems whatever lag they are experiencing seems to have been all cured up after this wonderful lagfix. I just wanted to know if it was really necessary to start on this course, immediately after getting my new phone?

No.
Stock firmware isn't that awful.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
Some people just love to get all the juice out of their device, just like with PCs and overclockers.
It's not must thing for everyone. Aspecially if you got no time for it or real need.
I rooted my device to add hebrew fonts for example. Never applied lag fix.

Thanks Mike. Good to hear it. Are there anything I should keep in mind, like programs that will be a necessity to my new phone?
BTW, I heard the SGS has a GPS issue that will be fixed with an update from Samsung.

Many ppl will recomend you some kind of task killers as the first must program...but I dont really think that is needed in android os (actually it can decrease performance).
So maybe the only must app is...Barcode Scanner to help you download all the other cool apps!
About the GPS problem, yes there seem to be some kind of a problem, but I never noticed anything that horrible. Maybe because I use GPS only once or twice a week, or maybe my geo location is blassed with multiple satelites, I really don't know.
If you going to relay on your SGS as main navigation device, maybe you should wait for froyo update to see whats fixed and what isn't.

Thanks Mike. No, I do not use GPS often so I can survive without to a point, maybe. Perhaps, maybe if I need to find a particular location while on foot, that I do find it handy. Otherwise I use a proper scale GPS system in my car.
So, I can wait for the Froyo update that s suppose to come next month.

My brother in law has an unrooted SGS running the stock Australian firmware. He still replaced the launcher with LauncherPro, which made his phone a little smoother. It's definitely still quite fast and usable.... just not as fast and usable as mine with the JM5 firmware and lag fix

Appreciate the input Jimmy. I think I'll wait until the Froyo update and GPS fix to be officially release and see how it behaves before making any major changes to my phone. As long as it does not stop me from enjoying all the benefits of the apps market and whatever enjoyment there is for this phone.

mike.sw said:
No.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
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December? I thought it was going to be a LOT sooner (I thought September)..

You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.

cavinsoo said:
You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.
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Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this..
That being said, you don't really need to do much these days. You possibly need to root for lagfixes (I've never used them though). I don't really care about the lag that much honestly. But unless you are messing with the operating system, there generally isn't any need to root. I am running an unrooted phone now, and it does everything I want. But each to their own...

andrewluecke said:
Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this...
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That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?

I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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sareen said:
I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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Like I said, I'm going to wait for the official Samsung Froyo update that is suppose to retify all the issues, both Lag and GPS.
As for the battery issue. I just started a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7799467&postcount=1

cavinsoo said:
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
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I'm on JM1 updated via KIES, not rooted or lagfixed and mine is "Blazing fast"

ebue said:
That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?
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From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS

Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.

kcharng said:
Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.
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I guess that prettyuch sums it up But what happens when Samsung releases the new and official firmware that supposely does all that you have mentioned( I am assuming so); don't you have to go back to the original Firmware to be able to update to the new one?

ging3 said:
From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS
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Ok.. Clearly, there is a lot of wrong info out there.. Root access is not needed at all for running beta firmware.

[Q] Which Route for me... no pun intended!!

Hello, I am in need of a little help. I am a complete noob to android and have no idea really how the system works. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and have decided to root my phone for 2 reasons.. ap2sd and so I can install the lag fix. I have done a bit of reading and chosen the path I wish to take but would like some assurance and pointers. I am also unsure of: If I root my phone does this automatically mean that with a properly partitioned sd card that I can store apps 2 sd or do I still need to flash the handset with a new ROM and if so there I am stuck... I do not know where to begin with searching for the best ROM for me. Also I would like to know if after i've done this will the handset still be able to receive the official updates or will I just need to keep updating it myself!
Here is the rundown as far as i have got so far...
Samsung Galaxy S I9000/XXJF3 Updated!
All the programs for XP i need are downloaded (eg.net3.5/4, samsung drivers)
The root method I thought was best for me was that of TGA_Gunman
The lag fix I had chosen is by Chainfire
I have still to back up the original ROM with ClockWorkMod (Is this easy to do and if I need to use it will it bring me completely back to my original settings for warranty purposes, or is there other things I would need to do?)
Also could someone provide me with a link to the best noob proof SD partitioning method!!
Is there anything I'm missing here, or anything that could be done a better way!! Any and all pointers will be much appreciated....
P.s. I would be wanting to update to the official froyo update when it's available will this cause me problems and if so what must I do!
Thanks in advance
ANDROID NOOB

rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251

AllGamer said:
rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
Thanks... I understand the risks. Bricked my windows omnia twice before I successfully managed to de-brand and update it!! lol... As to what you said about rooting it and staying with whatever firmware I choose? I wouldn't know which one to use. Normally I wouldnt bother with it all but the lag on my phone now is silly, 5sec pauses on black screens. I end up having to kill my inactive apps once or twice a day just to get some usability from it (which I'm not supposed to need to do)..... So with that in mind is there a firmware that is running better that XXJF3.... Also if flashing a new ROM will be more advantageous and easier I am willing to take that route. I had a look at the link you gave for the lag fix... but being honest I feel that is a bit much for me at this moment... there are many one click lag fixes out there that don't intimidate me so much, is there not a reliable one?... The reason the lag fix you posted scares me is that I dont really understand half of whats being said and am not to sure of the process (if i'm honest it's not explained simple enough for idiots like me) Also dont even know what a busybox is let alone have one, The one click options have them in the package. Sorry, I am so dumb and need the easy route!! LOL.... A Step by step dummies guide would be much appreciated.. LOL! But honestly The more I read the more it all confuses me.....
Anxiously waiting any help possible!!... if it's possible!
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hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM

I ma be following this thread as I am a noob as well
Thanks to the patient experts here!!!
Cheers!

AllGamer said:
hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM
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Read some more into the problems with the lag fixes and now see why you were trying to steer me away.... Still way to many bugs for my liking!! I think for now its best like you said to just root and flash a better firmware... But how do I do this, correct me if im wrong:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
Am I missing anything ???
As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no futrther, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...

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As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no further, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...
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Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).

spandsbab said:
Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).
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Yeah I've had the same... The longer the phone is in use the slower mine gets... I'm not leaving apps in the background either... It seems as if it just piles and piles inactive apps into the memory then goes slow!! I cancel the inactive ones and It's fast for a while then BOOM!.. slow again, 5/10 screen lag! unreal they're sayin they know nothing! Just hoping that a new firmware will make it better as the lag fixes look way too buggy still! Good luck with yours.. let me know if you find out any better roots/routes to fix the dam thing!

i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM

damdeviousduck said:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
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As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack

Using JG4. No lag. None zilch wham. I have seen the lag first hand at a local store.
I will not be installing a lag fix until I understand what they are doing so I don't be a tard (brick my phone).

AllGamer said:
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
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Dont quite understand what you mean... "I'll disagree with the lag" you can't disagree with it it's there... whether you have problems with it or not MANY people do!!
sensi_ said:
As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack
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I'm fine up to the point of flashing the formware could you or someone please explain in a bit more detail what ODIN3 is, how it works and what i'm gonna need and what I need to do!! Sorry to be asking so much, but better I ask and get it right than ask for more help on how to unbrick my phone ...LOL
Is it an android program or somethin I put on my PC... also is there anything I would need to do to the phone other than the root!!
EDIT: Why o why do I need to use odin3... From what i'e read all that does is send it back to original settings and firmware... WHICH I HAVE!! I have not even rooted the phone yet, I am gathering enough info before I even begin!!
So back to the point in hand.... I will root my phone back up the ROM with clockworkmod!!
After this I am stuck as to how I flash it with a different firmware one that is more stable and maybe not having issues with lag!!
Which firmware should I pick and how do I get it flashed onto the device!
PLEASE HELP! I need to try something to get rid of this lag it's unbearable! I'm now wondering if there maybe is something wrong with the handset as the lag is really not to be expected 10secs to switch an app... and i've only added bout 15 apps so its not as if I'm expecting alot from the thing!

before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.

AllGamer said:
before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.
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did that played with the phone a little a began to see the lag creep up on me again (I am beginning to think this is a problem with memory more than anything, it just keeps loading inactive apps into the memory till it's full) .... Ran quadrant and had a score of 856 although this means not alot to me... what is the norm... and why does that seem slow.... it is after all a 1ghz processor.....
awaiting any ideas/responses.... maybe I am just being too fussy!!!
While i'm still thinking bout what to do... Anybody got any thoughts on the APK ryanZA has released on the market place.. one click root and lagfix!! some comments that it does nothing and some sayin its runnin quadrant scores over 2k....
IS IT ONLY FOR CAPTIVATE/VIBRANT or will it work with european models???????

if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec

AllGamer said:
if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec
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As I say it doesnt start laggy... it just gets that way after a while of using it!! 'is it then to do with the apps i'm using but them the system manager says its all inactive programs using the space... why does it load so many in!

I have just decided to root and lag fix using Ryans' oneclick apk from the market place... Has worked a treat... Am just waiting for the official JM1 update for mine... Kies wont update my version for now.. Anyway wait and see, got a feeling froyo will be out before they sort out the kies update here! If all else fails wait for the official froyo release and apply it myself with odin!...
thanks for the help!

question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag

AllGamer said:
question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag
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Nope I was getting lag sometimes on a virtually clean handset with only 4 apps installed and the weren't apps that logging any activities at all... think maybe was bad firmware... had re-installation of system today at a samsung repair centre.. see how things go for now!! thanks though...

[Q] New to Droid need help with captivate, sick of waiting for 2.2...need advice!

Hello everyone,
I have recently upgraded from Windows mobile (tilt2) to Samsung Captivate (att)
I am pretty upset that they are taking forever to release the update and I would like to install a custom rom with Froyo, and without the bloatware!
So my questions are: (ive tried to do a ton of research so far so but am confused with this cant get definite answers)
I know it comes down to preference, but I would like to know which Rom is the most stable, best battery life, and good performance out of all the roms. I was considering the Firefly or the andromeda, or cognition...but maybe a better option? Which would be best for me, im not big into themes, just want best reliability, battery life is a huge thing for me as well. So which is best for me?
Also, I am confused with all these modem versions, my 3g currently is slow as ish on my 2.1 stock rom download speed is sad in my area and i get atlest 3-4 bars.
I rarely break 200kbps. meanwhile i see ppl getting 1mbps speed with their iphone sitting right next to me!!! So speed is important for me too. (internet and OS)
My last concern is will it be possible to do a complete backup of my current stock rom just incase i need to revert for warranty purposes?
I read the guide to upgrade the roms, watched the videos, nd plan to do it again b4 i attempt then follow directions very very carefully as i do it....
I was ok with flashing WinMo roms...but android is very different and it seems alot more confusing to me (maybe because i am new to it)
Im scared to brick my beautiful new phone...i love it so much.
but i feel i am held back with 2.1...no flash, crappy gps, and the custom roms im seeing are amazing looking!!!
So please help me with answers to my couple questions...
basically best rom for reliablilty, battery life, performance with best modem too.
Least amount of bugs, and theme isnt too big for me. the other things much more important!
And if im able to revert to stock no problem for warranty (if necessary)
so far my phone is AWESOME! but 2.2 is way better with flash and better gps.
Sorry for long post...THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS!!! YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
(u guys have dozens of versions of Froyo for captivate, and ATT cant even put out one! go figure!)

Well stock is in my 4shared...link in my sig. As for ROMs it always varies. Flash any you want. Only thing you need to check is if your 3 button recovery works. If it does your golden and flash away.
Sorry i am on my phone and its after 2am..... so no links

If you have really researched you would know there is no definitive answer to your question. Each rom has the chance to react differently between phones. Asking which rom is the best depends on YOUR phone and the combination of kernel/modem vary as well. Read up on how to properly installation rom. Read how to recover your phone from a bootloop/semi brick state. Readhow to use odin to flash to stock if you get that soft brick. Also learn how to make a jig if all else fails. Once all that is in placestart flashing roms to see which one is best for your phone.
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i knew i was gonna get that answer lol....
I have read the guide...i plan on reading again and again...
its not easy stuff for a noob...
and i am very computer literate.
But anyway...I have a Captivate, and i was watching rom reviews i remember josh saying that the firefly was good for day to day use.and that is what i would like.
I was just hoping for ur guys opinions. what worked best for u.
I saw alot of ppl were sayin the andromeda was saying it was a favorite among alot of people, great battery life too...
so i hope i can get some good answers from everyone...i would like to flash once with a great rom, and just chill wit it...
I did do research. alot of research. but i guess u must have learned everything over a period of months...but for me im tryin to cram everything i learned so far in 2-3 days.
i wanna flash but i dont want to mess anything up.
seems like it is not likely to hard brick the phone....and usually it can be recovered no problem...
i will continue my research, i was just hoping to get answers from much more experienced people than me...
I have a ATT Samsung Captivate (us version)
Which would the best rom for me to start with. (battery life, performance, and reliability/least bugs) are 3 most important things to me.
Themes are not as important to me.
Im goin to lay down. hopefully get some good answers when i wake up!
Keep in mind guys, IM BRAND NEW HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYONES BRILLIANT MINDS!
and i appreciate ur hospitality in advance!
thanks guys!

It takes more than a couple days of reading to get a understanding on how all of this works on the Captivate.There really isn't any crash course to take to accomplish what you want.Time is your friend..not your enemy on this..The more time you take..the more information you have before you.
Each phone (this includes yours) reacts differently to all the various themes..kernels..modems..and roms. Each person that does this..needs to find the best combination that will give them what they are hoping to achieve...ie: looks..speed..stability..battery life..download speed..gps..ect...
What you have to do..is find a rom you are interested in..read the thread from start to current..and then decide if what is being said about it will match your wants & needs.Then find out what modem works best on your phone ... in your area... to give you the best signal reception.. download speeds..voice clarity..and battery life. Same for the kernels..which one will work properly with the modem..that gives you good stable performance without changing your download speed..Both must work in conjunction with each other.
Everyone has favorites..on each item..and just because a certain combination works superbly for my phone..doesn't mean it will work for you..The beauty of Android..is you have the chance to change each part to make your phone perform as you want it..You have a multitude of choices...so..where to begin...
For a starting point..here is what I would do..Ensure your phone has the 3 button recovery..If it does..download the correct Odin..If it doesn't..download the Odin with the 3 button recovery fix in it..Download and install the correct drivers for your phone..Read the entire Odin threads for each..from start to finish..and memorize the proper sequence of how to properly flash back to stock..Download the update.zip file to your PC..as well as the 1 click root program..this way you have both...the update.zip file gives you root very easily..and having that file will save you a lot of time..and the 1 click root/un-root if you need to return to 100% stock for some reason..It's a real good idea to learn how to do all of this before you flash any custom rom..Then you can start prepairing to change your phone..flying blind on doing this can lead to messing up your phone..so..be prepared to invest a lot of time reading everything you can first..
Make several folders on your pc/mac that will contain different roms...theme...kernels...modems..gps tweaks...wi-fi fixes..then start filling those folders up..
Then you can learn how to flash themes..roms..kernels..and modems..and you do that by reading and studying how to on each of those threads..There is a ton of information to go over...
Now you have a idea of why folks won't just say what you should do...There is so many different combinations to choose from..and for a n00b it is overwhelming..but you have to start by having an idea of what you want..what you want it to look like..and how you want it to perform..and then assemble the various items..and then assemble it yourself..Many of the Custom roms..have attempted to do this for you..and many prefer having someone do it for them..than attempt to learn how to do it for themselves....Some are full featured roms..others are stripped down version..that you have to download what you need for it..In the end..many of us have take a little from each..and mix and match to get our phones where we want them to be..because of what I underlined above..There is a lot more to learn..but..in time..you will..cause we all do learn new stuff about them everyday we work with them..The more you learn..the more you can change..
Hope this helps
Mac

All of the ROMs are different even though they are kinda the same (I don't know if that makes sense), but I would do as smoke said, verify your 3 button recovery works and find one of the many roms out there that sounds like it appeals to you. I started out using Cognition until one Saturday I woke up and looked through the forums and I found another rom that looked good. I didn't know how it ran or anything, I just liked the look of it. That weekend I flashed 4 different ROMs until I found the one that I liked best. Since then I stuck with the same 2-3 devs. It took me a while to get comfortable flashing but after a while you'll find yourself flashing in the middle of afternoon traffic.
Many of the people are helpful here and are more than happy to help. Just keep in mind that what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa. A lot of the threads have 100s if not 1000s of posts and that can be pretty intimidating but honestly I just catch up on the last few pages and I'm kinda tracking. Also many of the devs have IRC rooms to chat for any questions.
Check this thread out here and this one here for some additional help.
Happy Flashing!!

This is a basic tutorial I wrote up a few months ago for the basic flashing back to stock. It has the link for Odin 1 Click, and for Windows drivers, which you'll need:
Flash to Stock JF6:
1. Download Odin One Click from: http://www.mediafire.com/?0w2y31maz8mdom4
2. Download your Windows Drivers from:
Windows 64bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?3dh4d6up72me9re
Windows 32bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?0b45zo7o75rc5d5
3. Make sure your USB cable is connected directly to the back of your computer, not a USB hub or to a front connection and all of your drivers have been properly installed
4. Do not connect your USB cable yet.
5. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
6. Turn your phone off
7. Remove your SIM card and Micro SD if you have one
8. Open Odin One Click
9. On your phone, press and hold the Volume up and the Volume down buttons. Do not touch the power button
10. While holding them, insert your USB cable, wait for a couple of seconds and a yellow triangle with the Android figure will show up
11. You’ll see in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
12. Press “Start”
13. Do Not mess with your phone at all
14. When it is done, your phone will reboot and Odin will display “Removed”
15. Unplug your USB cable from your phone
16. If you are proceeding to Master clear, you must close Odin BEFORE Master Clear
Master Clear:
1. Ensure you have backed up all of your information onto your Micro SD or your desktop BEFORE doing this. IT WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL SD!!
2. Make sure to remove your SIM and Micro SD if you have one
3. With your USB cable disconnected from your phone, open Odin One Click
4. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
5. Connect your USB cable to your phone
6. You’ll in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
7. Click “Master Clear”
8. When the Master Clear has completed, your phone will reboot
9. You’ll need to re-enable USB Debugging again
Remember to take what you read with a grain of salt; like it's been said before, your device can act very differently than someone else's in the thread you are reading. So your milage may vary. Also remember not to be turned off by the negatives you read in a thread, some people just like to nitpick and complain. For ME, I find that if you take the theme, and set it aside, that what you're looking for is a ROM that works for your device. At the core they are pretty much the same, and any thing you don't really like as far as the theming is concerned, can be changed. So what I think you need to find is a ROM/Kernel/Modem combo that gives you good marks on the basics; call quality, WiFi, BT, signal, if the signal/call quality isnt quite right, take a look at a new modem, if there is a little hickup in the functionality, try a different kernel.
My own piece of advise, stay away from the kernels that are OC'd until you are well versed in the flashing and so on. They can cause some problems, and I personally find aren't needed.
I'm partial(as you can see by my signature) to the Phoenix ROM. It's 2.2.1 i9000 based, where as Adams other ROM Firefly, is Rogers 2.2. Over and above all things, they are great threads, and most everyone is really, really helpful
Good luck and happy flashing

thanks so much for the reply. i def read ur tutorial before!
i actualy was wondering if that would set back to stock rom, woul that be stock so i can send back the phone if i need to for warranty purposes?
thanks for all the replies!!
i did alot of research, i think im going with the cognition rom....
seems to be the best for what i want for...
just straight up reliability, performance an battery life. but reliability above all.
maybe if that isnt good for my phone, then i will try firefly.
i already got all the ddriverrs, software, etc...
im just nervous to go thru with it because im scared of breakin my beautiful phone!! (i was also scared bout doin custom roms to my winmo phones in the past, but once i get past the fear and actually do it, i usually find it to be a simple process...)
please excuse my errors, my keyboard on my laptop is retarded...
Thanks again guys!
If anyone has any tips for a first timer, please feel free to let me know!!
Thanks!

Ok, I have been a little confused with this, and pretty much this is my major concern before i go ahead and flash...
Pretty much my worry is backing up the nvdata information...
I feel this is by far the most important step. And if it is at all possible i would like to extract this data somehow and store it on my computer hard drive, on a cd, and thumb drive (to be redundant- just incase i ever need it again).
once i figure out how to be safe with that vital data, i plan on goin ahead and flashin!
I was readin up on the phoenix rom too...
looking at all these roms makes me feel like im at a restaurant and i cant choose!

nv data is only important if you use kies.
Dl either
Root explorer
Super manager
Android mate
Find efs folder on your phone, copy and paste on your sd
Mount phone move to pc

I don't think you can go wrong with any of the popular custom roms. Virtually all of them are better choices than stock. Your choice for Cognition is a good one. I have enjoyed it in the past. I'm currently running Perception 10.3 from the same developer (DesignGears). His work seems consistently high...but many others do great work, too.
Titanium Backup (market) is a good application for backing up key apps + data. Also, it can sync with a dropbox account if you have one. Once you install your new rom, you can then use Titanium backup to restore missing apps and data. (just don't restore system data to avoid messing up a new rom). It might be a good thing to practice with Titanium prior to flashing a new rom just to make sure you can delete and restore a critical application and its data.

ok so i rooted my phone, i backed up everything with titanium as per the guide.
so if i just use the clockwork recovery to install cognition rom then it will carry over the imei number and EVERYTHING else?
I ccant figure out how to save this data the efs folder or w/e...its really too complicated.
it seems like im just about half way done. since i have stock rom already, i dont need to use the odin to restore.
So clock work to install and restore with titantium.
So if i just install cognition as per instructions on the sticky thread, then i wont have ANY problems as far as my phones 'identity' (droid id, imei, etc..)?
Im guessin cwm will restore this autommatically, or it will just carry over?
i have a feeling that today i will finally have 2.2!
i just need to clear this one last concern up!
THANKS EVERYONE!

I am lazy so I did not read all the post.
Did you use android id changer to save your current id?
I have never backed up my efs file.
Only restore user apps with titanium

no i didnt do that. lol
this is why im sooo nervous about flashing this rom...
cuz i read the instructions on the sticky forum and it seems straight forward...
then i start reading posts about how u need to back up nvdata, efs folders, now im hearing about android id changer....
im glad i didnt flash it yet, cuz i might have avoided a mistake!
Pretty much i just rooted my phone, backed up apps and data like said in the instructions on the sticky topic. I downloaded cognition rom...
and i am hesitant to proceed...
i dont want to make a serious mistake!!!
is this android id changer a nessisity?
i been reading all over the boards and it is confusing the hell out of me!!!

Deep breath
You are flashing a rom not recreating the wheel.
Android id changer is soo easy to use that it makes no sense not to back up your id. App is free, open it, save id, done.
How about you're contacts, have you backed them up? If you have an external sd, go to contacts, menu, export/import, save to sd
it is not hard, it just takes some reading and getting used to. In a month you will be flashing with your eyes closed.
If you want help along the way drop me a pm

Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?

xdahgary said:
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
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Android id is a unique identifier for your phone. When you flash a custom rom it gets changed. It can cause some issues with downloading from the market, and some games identify your device using that id.
I have flashed and not restored my id without issues before, but it is real easy and is a way of troubleshooting before a problem happens

Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.

xdahgary said:
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
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You can grab it if you go back to stock or if you have a nandroid of stock there is a way to get it

thanks mcord....so i dont need to worry about anything else then?
i backed up wit titaanium...all contacts are saved on my gmail...
i am goin to back up the id then ill proceeed with the flashing..
my main concern was the imei and stuff like that...but it doesnt seem like it will b an issue...
thanks buddy!

Help, anyone?

Guys, just got my phone last week. I read a lot about rooting. Should I root my phone? What are the advantages of it? Havent been able to back my phone yet. When I do root, would it wipe out my phone? Should I wait for the release of the ICS or should I just root now? Also, which link should i follow?
Heres my phones spec:
Model Number: GT-N7000
Android Version: 2.3.6
Baseband Version: N7000DXKL2
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-N7000DXLA1-CL886914
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.DXLA1
Please help. I am new to android. thanks!

Its really up to you. If you already satisfy with stock, then just wait for ics. But if you a type of person who could not wait and could not stand with bug on existing stock rom, then go for custom rom. Which ever suit and good for you..my 2 cent.. B-)
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App

Hey, I was in the same boat as you. Dabble with Android, some time back, but left the fold as I thought it hadn't matured enough for me back then. Now I a back - couldn't resist the Note and I find that Android has come along leaps and bounds, more functionality than I could of hoped for. I am glad Im back, and I will be staying
To answer some of your questions,
* Yes root the device (at your own risk of course)
*The advantages are numerous, but to name a few: many apps that can take advantage of your root status, eg Titanuim backup. Once rooted, you can explore different roms (firmwares developed/enhanced by others), kernels etc which can increase the speed, functionality etc of your phone. You make full backup of your phone prior to changing or trying different roms, that way if something goes wrong, you can load your last working copy etc. For example, Im just trying a new/different kernel or a ROM developed by a totally different person. Pretty cool really.
At the end of the day it is entirely up to you, but there is a whole different world out there waiting for you if you go the 'root' path.
Good luck and enjoy..

Vatoe said:
Hey, I was in the same boat as you. Dabble with Android, some time back, but left the fold as I thought it hadn't matured enough for me back then. Now I a back - couldn't resist the Note and I find that Android has come along leaps and bounds, more functionality than I could of hoped for. I am glad Im back, and I will be staying
To answer some of your questions,
* Yes root the device (at your own risk of course)
*The advantages are numerous, but to name a few: many apps that can take advantage of your root status, eg Titanuim backup. Once rooted, you can explore different roms (firmwares developed/enhanced by others), kernels etc which can increase the speed, functionality etc of your phone. You make full backup of your phone prior to changing or trying different roms, that way if something goes wrong, you can load your last working copy etc. For example, Im just trying a new/different kernel or a ROM developed by a totally different person. Pretty cool really.
At the end of the day it is entirely up to you, but there is a whole different world out there waiting for you if you go the 'root' path.
Good luck and enjoy..
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Thanks for the reply. Can you provide me the links that i need to be able to do the rooting?

No problems. Unfortunately you have one of the newer firmwares which are not directly rootable. All is not lost though, you can still root your phone, it just involves al little more effort on your part. Read the linked post very carefully, following the instructions regarding not directly rootable firmwares:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Good luck..

ok, thank you very much!

gokenong said:
ok, thank you very much!
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No problem at all.

Moved to Q&A​
All question in the Q&A section please!​

Root, root, root!
I must say I tried to avoid it and wait for ICS, but the battery drain was giving me grief. Here's why I rooted, and will root evermore:
There are dozens of 'stock' apps that pop up and start chewing through your battery any time they feel like it. The are all small apps, but there are a lot of them, and it really eats into your battery life and RAM.
Even if you kill them off, either with a task killer or manually, they pop right back up again, sometimes within seconds. This is because they have 'listeners' registered with the OS, and they respond to any of these events they have registered to listen for.
I use Autorun Manager to both stop them starting at boot, and to turn off all 'listeners' these apps have in place. My device then only runs what I want it to run!
The other extremely nice thing to have, and one that I find I just cannot do without, is a firewall. I use DroidWall, and it allows me to specify exactly which apps can get access to the internet, and how (by WiFi, Mobile, or both). This gives you battery savings and mobile data savings, and it also provides a certain level of security because malicious apps just cannot send personal information back to base (like they certainly can without a firewall).
I immediately increased battery life by 50%. I have added another 50% by sleeping the WiFi, because I can now specify only WiFi for apps (so they don't jump on mobile data when WiFi is asleep, like they used to, I think).
One happy Rooter!

Hello to OP and the above warm-hearted members
I had similar question and a bit over it. I thought I could add it to this thread instead of making a whole new thread.
During my short days with GNexus, I learned quite a lot of things (my 1st Android Device), for example, the elementary intro to fastboot and adb.
However, after switching to Note, I found there is no fastboot mode? Or at least, pressing volume rockers+power button didn't do the trick. Am I missing something here? Because everytime I search "fastboot mode (or bootloader) and Galaxy Note", all the results turn out to be about Galaxy Nexus...
Really confused..

I don't know if this helps you but since noone has responded I can tell you this.
Holding Volume Up + Home Button + Power Button boots you in Recovery mode where you can install ROMs, kernels and updates, wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, battery stats do factory reset, make nandroid backup and restore and some other stuff.
Holding Volume Down + Home Button + Power Button boots you in download mode where you can connect to Odin and do stuff.

Thanks! So it's quite different when there's an extra physical button
I just tried and it works.
Is the recovery mode the equivalent to fastboot mode?

Installing new ROM - some help/advices

I've never done this before (did it a few times with old omnia i900 and WP6.5, never android) so I need as much help and advice you can give me
I know I need Odin, Kies, a rom and a kernel(??) and drivers. Found all the links from the video /watch?v=bd1zwH2-kX0
If there's a video on youtube showing everything that has good quality you can just redirect me there.
Anyways, my mom uses this phone so I need it to have as much battery life and ease of access possible so which ROMs do you recommend?
I also need to know what I need to have to flash the phone (USB cable and something else software wise, maybe) and what are the risks of flashing it. The reason I'm flashing it is because it feels slow for some reason and it keeps vibrating all the time. Does it need an sdcard because I don't have one.
Sorry if I violated some rules posting this. Thanks.

strange to see you struggle with the same phone as i am the same day on an old phone like this, im trying to get google play to work on it, but it seems the custom backup installed rom is just messed up, google play just give blank screens or some weird errors, the internet and other things work, but https also messed up on some pages, and the date is set correctly =/ which is what usually is wrong on my pc when https is messed up
so im also looking for advice on a custom rom, the lighter its on resources the better, is it also possible to use ROEHSOFT_RAM_Expander on this phone? is the kernel limit of swap ram a software thing or a hardware think?

socus said:
strange to see you struggle with the same phone as i am the same day on an old phone like this, im trying to get google play to work on it, but it seems the custom backup installed rom is just messed up, google play just give blank screens or some weird errors, the internet and other things work, but https also messed up on some pages, and the date is set correctly =/ which is what usually is wrong on my pc when https is messed up
so im also looking for advice on a custom rom, the lighter its on resources the better, is it also possible to use ROEHSOFT_RAM_Expander on this phone? is the kernel limit of swap ram a software thing or a hardware think?
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Yes. I also have same problems, white screen for play store or errors saying it crashed or no connection. I think a different ROM would solve all these problems. You can try Cyanogenmod.

vorokin said:
Yes. I also have same problems, white screen for play store or errors saying it crashed or no connection. I think a different ROM would solve all these problems. You can try Cyanogenmod.
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yes tried the one on http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...samsung-galaxy-pocket-gt-s5300-t3033992/page3 and messed up phone boot, the steps are not very clear on that link, will try whatever i can today, else hammer the phone and buy the kid a new one, not going to be stingy with the kid or waste a lot of time on the phone, but i was trying to ditch the throw away economy, and forcing the kid to buy his own phone that way he appreciates what he have a lot more.:laugh:
Edit:
flashed back sucessfully with oddin and this post files http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560314
will fight the trow away economy later today.

socus said:
yes tried the one on http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...samsung-galaxy-pocket-gt-s5300-t3033992/page3 and messed up phone boot, the steps are not very clear on that link, will try whatever i can today, else hammer the phone and buy the kid a new one, not going to be stingy with the kid or waste a lot of time on the phone, but i was trying to ditch the throw away economy, and forcing the kid to buy his own phone that way he appreciates what he have a lot more.:laugh:
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I like fixing and troubleshooting stuff more. But only if it's mine and I don't have much to lose. You might've missed to root the phone.

vorokin said:
I like fixing and troubleshooting stuff more. But only if it's mine and I don't have much to lose. You might've missed to root the phone.
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it was rooted i think i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365697, and Superuser app was installed after that process so it seems it was rooted, i used airdroid screen cap function to test because that one ask superuser permission and it worked after the root
I got whatsapp and airdoid working without google play but really want google play to work, did you try Cyanogenmod or are you scared to mess up the phone?

socus said:
it was rooted i think i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365697, and Superuser app was installed after that process so it seems it was rooted, i used airdroid screen cap function to test because that one ask superuser permission and it worked after the root
I got whatsapp and airdoid working without google play but really want google play to work, did you try Cyanogenmod or are you scared to mess up the phone?
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I haven't tried anything today. My mom just got the phone today so I don't really want to brick/mess something up.
I tried only installing few apps like Facebook, Opera, Chrome, FB Messenger and Viber. Some worked right away, for some I had to download different apks because play store doesn't work. I haven't even tried rooting it. It could be rooted using kingoroot, I might try it.
I noticed that play store works only when you want to update an app. It didn't crash when it redirected me to YT app and FB app update.

vorokin said:
I haven't tried anything today. My mom just got the phone today so I don't really want to brick/mess something up.
I tried only installing few apps like Facebook, Opera, Chrome, FB Messenger and Viber. Some worked right away, for some I had to download different apks because play store doesn't work. I haven't even tried rooting it. It could be rooted using kingoroot, I might try it.
I noticed that play store works only when you want to update an app. It didn't crash when it redirected me to YT app and FB app update.
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i installed kitkat4.4 from this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYI91-S8Tk
google play worked until it updated then the blanck screen stuff started to happen all over again, but at least the kitkat version does not eat up all the internal storage like the rom i had from stock, so it only uses 20% vs 80% 90% so for that reason ill keep it until i see a better alternative on the forum, may play with it again but out of time.

socus said:
i installed kitkat4.4 from this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYI91-S8Tk
google play worked until it updated then the blanck screen stuff started to happen all over again, but at least the kitkat version does not eat up all the internal storage like the rom i had from stock, so it only uses 20% vs 80% 90% so for that reason ill keep it until i see a better alternative on the forum, may play with it again but out of time.
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Did you do everything like from the video or did you do something that is usual thing to do before flashing that a noob like me would miss?
Have you tried flashing it again but this time without updating the app?
Also did you use sdcard for this or via usb on PC?

this is the way to go for me, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698533 this one works wonderfully
it has chrome and flash working, it also works as smooth as silk vs the stock or the kitkat 4.4 roms, so don't waste your time and trying to get the other ones working.
let me know how it goes.
Edit: replaced old post to avoid more headaches old post in quotes
1- ! meesed up the phone the first time then i fixed it with oddin and the files here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2560314
2-then installed using the youtube video as a guide, i didn't do as the description said but rather did exactly what i saw in the video, the guy dees a bad jobin the description, he mentions step (5 - Select the vM00CWMv3f) but in the video he never touches it, so dont search for it or download it just ignore that step or do exacly as the video, use J K L to play pause advance or back the video and make sure you mirror him xD
if you do the odding thing your phone will be like the default mode, unrooted and so but no need to root it to install the rom of the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYI91-S8Tk
PD : google play is still a messy mess with its blank screen with the kitkat version of the video , i uninstall/downgrade google_play_services and the google_play_store, then i open google play and accept the termns and install my intended app with the old google store, then google updates an installs its bugged app all over again without me wanting, then i go uninstall or downgrade the two apps all over again and install my next app with the old google play, its morroning all afternoon already ^_^
wasn't technology supposed to make life easier?
so where did you get stuck? no one of the experts will recommend a rom? T_T
PD2: did not use an external sdcard, only the internal, and i used the usb cable with the oddin program, then after the odding ting, i did use the cable to upload files to the root, then i did what the video shows without cables or rooting
ive send a pm with my whatsapp and skype hit me there if you still strugle, im online 4 t o5 more hours
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Why is the notification bar no the bottom on the CM7 one you sent?
Thanks for helping me out. I might try today flashing it but still without sdcard.
BTW if you try flashing it again you might try recording it with an HD camera to see the full process on how to do it. I could also edit it and add annotations and you could post it to youtube if you want. If you do that please make sure it's bright enough in the room

vorokin said:
Why is the notification bar no the bottom on the CM7 one you sent?
Thanks for helping me out. I might try today flashing it but still without sdcard.
BTW if you try flashing it again you might try recording it with an HD camera to see the full process on how to do it. I could also edit it and add annotations and you could post it to youtube if you want. If you do that please make sure it's bright enough in the room
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im still playing wit hthe phone, i reflashed to stock several times already, the one that work smooth as silk is still the best and no need for external sd card to use that one, but im trying to get the one that i meesed my phone up with to work, i got a external sd to test it but im still cant get the cm11 to install when on external sd card
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the best 2 i found for 5300 and tested them bouth, no external card needed for these 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2682495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074054 (for this one let it restart after install and let it boot to the system, then shut it down after you selected language and entered home screen, then boot recovery again and install the update file)
if you don't have stock rom or if the installation goes bad, or the installed rom does not work properly, then Restore Stock ROM/Unbrick, and then try again, i found that doing this step before trying a new rom is the best, else wifi or other tings fail. here is the Restore Stock ROM/Unbrick thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560314
just show your mom this forum thread before you try anything with her device, remember i was ok with hammering my device, so i didn't care if i killed it, but it works very nice with any of those rom, the guys that worked on those know their stuff!!, and is probably worth the effort flashing the device, also leave your sim chip in when doing the rom flashing, it seems the provider sends the configuration automatically to the device when it starts the new installed rom, if not then be prepared to search the internet for the apn settings of your cellphone company or to call them and ask.

I know the APN settings for my provider. My mom doesn't speak english so it would look like chinese for her.
Thanks for all the links. She doesn't seem to have too much problems right now. Did installing these ROMs make your vibrating to stop?

vorokin said:
I know the APN settings for my provider. My mom doesn't speak english so it would look like chinese for her.
Thanks for all the links. She doesn't seem to have too much problems right now. Did installing these ROMs make your vibrating to stop?
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this phones vibration is dead, and it didn't get it working with any of the roms I've tried, so wont be able to answer you on that, this phones google play didn't work, not even with the stock rom, so that is why i started to flash it with the downloadable roms on this forum. Hyperion and the KitKat Smart R2 roms are really nice roms, i would say for a woman/girl use the 'KitKat Smart R2' rom and for a man/boy use the hyperion, the hyperion have a more drone electronic type theme, the phone will say with a robotic voice "ill be back" when you shut it down ^_^

lol @ hyperion.
It should say "get to the choppa"
Thanks for every advice if my mom decides the software is unbearable on the phone I will flash it.
Does play store work on hyperion/kitkat smart s2?