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[Q] 2.2 Roms in a nutshell

Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?

Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"

teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.

Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.

unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.

Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.

Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.

Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.

Dragon ROMs, direct to ext4 install, voodoo5

What is this? It's an experimental ROM install setup that avoids the use of RFS entirely. The install basically pre-voodoo's your phone. If you know you want voodoo, this is faster than installing then doing voodoo, but it's a little more complicated. Not much, but be warned. It avoids the use of RFS durring install completely, so no RFS corruption to worry about.
The ROM itself is mostly untouched. The kernel is my Dragon Kernel, i9k based, so it will eat your battery (froyo only, eclair is better as we have source). I can get about 12 hours out of it. Buy a charger.
The new version is a 1-click install. It installs the kernel, reboots into it, then auto-installs the ROM. I tested it coming from JFD without issues.
These are based on voodoo5 beta code. Curio is releasing voodoo5 stable here soon, and I'll post an updated no-wipe kernel flash for that.
The ROMS are Team Whiskey Obsidian, Onyx, and Fusion. I changed the install procedure and the kernel out, the rest is as they made it. I take no credit for the ROM. Please post bugs here however, so I can make sure they are ROM bugs before letting TW know about them. I'm running the Onyx version as my daily driver. There has been some private beta testing, and they seem stable, but do have Odin handy just in case. I have installed over the top of various ROMs, but the safest way is probably to come from JFD just to be sure.
ALL THESE ROMS WIPE. NO, I WON'T CHANGE THAT.
Obsidian V5b: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Obsidian-Installer-v1.0.zip
Onyx 4.2: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Onyx-Installer-v1.0.zip
Fusion Final: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Fusion-Installer-v1.0.zip
NOTE: THESE INSTALL VOODOO. ALL THE USUAL VOODOO PRECAUTIONS APPLY, IF FLASHING SOMETHING, DISABLE IT FIRST.
The latest voodoo stuff seems to play nicer and I have flashed things from clockwork without bricking, but just be warned.
Updates:
Kernel with the stable voodoo5 release. Should work with any froyo ROM, does not wipe.
http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Kernel-Voodoo-v2.0.zip

I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"

Hmmm...cool. Might have to try this with Axura 2.1.

geoffcorey said:
I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
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Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?

Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.

dasunsrule32 said:
Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.
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The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.

ttabbal said:
The kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
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Nice. I'll hold off trying this with Axura 2.1 until this posted, then. A battery life of 12 hours is fine in exchange for what Voodoo will provide in return.

ttabbal said:
The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.
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Sweet, thank you.

i flashed this on obsidian v5 beta w/ jk6 modem and it running like a champ. however, you were right about the battery life
thanks for posting it before hand. i appreciated.

Love the new kernel would u consider an overlook version? Eugene 1256 is so snappy but it corrupts data. That speed plus voodoo is crazy fast. Real 2000 + quadrant.
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Froyo Kernel on Eclair?
ttabbal,
I did not know that a Froyo kernel could be backward compatible to Eclair. Is that the case, given that your Dragon 2.0 incorporating Voodoo 5 Stable will work with Bionix Fusion?
Please help me to understand this.
More to the point, I am on Bionix 1.9.1. Would Dragon 2.0 w/Voodoo 5 Stable work on my setup?
Thanks,
Bruce

Would love to use this, however i cant seem to get anything to install from the market no matter what i do. My TitaniumBackup restores just fine(apps only). Ive ODIN'd back to JFD twice but still nada. Ill try starting from JI6 and see if it helps.

dbacchus said:
Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?
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So I'm running ttabbal's latest kernel, 2.0, and just ran a quadrant. It gets 1564 as the score. Now, this isn't just from voodoo alone, he's done a few speed tweaked which will bump up the score. But it's snappy as hell.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"

Just put this in my phone and its works fine I'm running axura 2.1 works fine but u will see a second boot up screen the benchmark test is not that high I got in the 2500 with the oclf inthe market download but can't do that one anymore it tells me I have one installed already but over all its smooth

Don't worry about benchmarks, they are easy to fool in a high level system like Android. Cyanogen managed to get something stupid like 10k out of Quadrant.
This setup isn't for being a benchmark queen. It's targeted at a couple things I deem important. Multitasking smoothness/performance, and a test of direct-to-ext4 install. The no-wipe voodoo kernel is really intended to be used as part of the whole, but like I said, it should work with any froyo. Note: NOT ECLAIR. If there is more demand for an eclair version, I'll consider updating my eclair ramdisk as well.
As for the market, couldn't say. It's NOT the rom/kernel though. The market is a finicky thing and sometimes just doesn't work. It's usually the server side or the app itself that has an issue though. There's also an update to Market for Froyo, it seems to be more stable. You should get it downloaded automatically after running for a while. To check, look at an app description, you should have a new tab "Related".
When I've had market problems, I fire up my Wife's G2 on a stock rom (not even root) and she does too, so it's not anything I, or anyone other than Google, can control.

Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
UPDATE: Thanks geoffcorey for the info!
Tried on Axura 2.1 with larger nand. Flashed, rebooted, converted with no issues and is running very well so far. Haven't been successful getting Voodoo to run before now.
Thanks to TW, ttabbal, Supercurio, et al.

epakrat75 said:
Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
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yes, it supports bootanimation.zip

So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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joe.kerwin said:
So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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I did this very thing in my post #16 above yours. Go for it! Remove any other lag fixes you may have though. I had none installed so I didn't have to do that. PERFORM A NANDROID backup and optionally copy to a computer before flashing the kernel to be safe. Restoring the Nandroid backup won't restore the kernel though.
The dangers are minimal if you backup. Permanently bricking the phone is unlikely. You may soft brick but you probably won't. PLUG IN AND DON'T TURN OFF THE PHONE UNTIL THE "TW" LOGO DISAPPEARS! Around this time, you will hear a voice say voodoo has been activated.
I believe the conversion process may attempt to revert the changes it tried to make in the event of an unsuccessful conversion. If reversion is successful then you should again have access to CWM to flash back to any rom you have stored on your phone. Use nandroid to restore your data and your back to normal.

joe.kerwin said:
So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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Heimdall... Um if you cant get into download mode perhaps you shouldn't flash experimental things.
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Most Complete/Stable Vogue Android Build

So I've just recently flashed my vogue with myns donut for a couple days and It was pretty good. The camera worked but no video and neither did the gps. I understand that for verizon you have to follow a specific procudure to get that to work so that makes sense. I'm just curious to what android roms they are using for their vougue. I'm looking for one that has the most working features. Let me know what it is and how you had it set up.

For my Fresh Froyo although remember android no is 100% stable but Fresh Froyo is very good.

If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.

aceoyame said:
If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
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I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.

Josue_181 said:
I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
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Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.

Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
I have searched but it has been a while since I looked in this section. Is it DZO's Fresh Froyo you use and I cannot find Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10??? Hope you can help, thanks.

aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!

aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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Would have to prove with that kernel I know how to adapt the kernel Clemsyn's to our Vogue if it works I comment as I was to see if I change my mind about your ROM
krwilson said:
Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
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The thread Fresh froyo this here, as well as guides for the installation of haret/nad, only is question search and read...

Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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our vogue would not benefit from the battery enhancements since our kernels were designed for our battery

Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best

loffyg said:
Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
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This is my situation too....as I posted above. I know how to install, but am unsure of exactly what you are recommending as to the Fresh Froyo files. Thanks again.

Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.

Josue_181 said:
Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
ROM: Fresh Froyo 2010-12-03
Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
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Okay I am pretty sure I understood what you said. I have the files you suggested thanks for the help I will try it tonight.

Josue_181 said:
the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
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It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.

Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.

So it loses a lot of those tweaks but I can say 1 thing about cm6.1 and 7 so far, they are getting rather large themselves, I can look into cm7 for hero and find atleast 10 apks that just take up space or are only good once
aceoyame said:
I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.

goducks3620 said:
It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
aceoyame said:
I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Using this kernel modified with atool I may obtained the benefits mentioned in the battery life?

aceoyame said:
Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
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even with barebones, the cm settings along with the now statistic reporting and updater (which cause FC's if removed) are still pretty huge. i have grown to like cm7 on my hero but with having so much stuff commited to the project as much as i hate to say it, there is starting to be alot of ::gulp:: bloatware

Josue_181 said:
Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
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You don't need a task killer. The newer versions of Android will shut down apps that aren't being used if the resources are needed elsewhere. If you run a Advanced Task Killer or something similar, it will use system resources shutting down apps that then re-open themselves, which the task killer will again kill. It drains the battery and makes the OS unstable. Uninstall your task killer for a few days and see if it helps.
I use Autostarts because it fixed a problem--the music player started randomly. I also use it to prevent some apps from starting up but it is probably not necessary.

[Q] Samuaz's ICS ROM vs texasice's ICS ROM?

Which ROM is better?

I don't know for sure, but it seems that samuaz's is texasice's build plus the CM goodies. So I would say samuaz's has more features.

bassmadrigal said:
I don't know for sure, but it seems that samuaz's is texasice's build plus the CM goodies. So I would say samuaz's has more features.
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Ok. Hey, aren't you that Cyanogenmod moderator?

That'd be me

why ask--try them both--

Am using texasice's ROM since like day 1 and loving it. Its my daily driver

I tried thrice to use texacise ROM [Alpha 8, ev-1, and latest p3]. There are huge improvements and p3 is quite close to be used as daily rom. However, still there are issues with network dropping off , random soft reboots and many Apps FCing.
Nexy has good future with both these ROMs progressing so fast [it is less than 50 days since google released the code].
The samuaz ROM, looking at the feedback, I'll give it a try for couple of days next week.

Yes I do notice those soft reboots with p3. But no FCs and no network drops. However the progress for each build looks quite promising.

Would be nice if Samuaz too release a mini skirt version for stock Hboot

Yet another reason not to stay on stock Hboot: Camera is already working (not completely) on N1.
Also msm kernel 3.0 is ready. Just a few days before we get ICS beta

Where can we get the msm 3.0 kernel?

JoshX said:
Where can we get the msm 3.0 kernel?
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Where? From a kernel dev, of course.
When? When it's ready. Further questions will not aid in getting it faster.
I heard the kernel dev over at the Desire forums is going to upload his msm-3.0 sources to guthub and will make it work on the HD2 and Nexus One, of course after it works on the Desire itself.
Just wait patiently and it will be here sooner or later.

Which rom work on 2g network?

Mohamad_j said:
Which rom work on 2g network?
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I think texasice's ROM works with 2G network.

Theshawty said:
Where? From a kernel dev, of course.
When? When it's ready. Further questions will not aid in getting it faster.
I heard the kernel dev over at the Desire forums is going to upload his msm-3.0 sources to guthub and will make it work on the HD2 and Nexus One, of course after it works on the Desire itself.
Just wait patiently and it will be here sooner or later.
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That's what I figured, but it seemed to be implied, by indiangeek, that one was already available.

I just upgraded from CM 7 to Texas ICS p4. The market didn't work (my apps didn't auto-sync and re-download - couldn't get it working after an hour of trying), the animations were a little jerky, camera didn't work, USB mass storage didn't work, CM mods weren't there. In it's current form, it could use a little polishing.
I tried Samuaz's MeDroid ICS 4.1 and it works way better. No market issues. Animations are much more fluid, camera works (panorama and video are broken). Gallery doesn't pull in picasa web albums (that'll be fixed today in 4.2). Also, you get CM features, which aren't present in TICS. I got a few force closes, but I think that was due to not rebooting after restoring from mybackup root, as I haven't had the FCs in a while. Oh, and USB mass storage is working, so I can restore apps and data from my backups. Sometimes the USB icon shows up or the app starts up (like at startup) when nothing is plugged in. Minor issue, though.
Upgrade method (some of these flash files aren't signed, so I needed to disable signature verification before they'd flash):
Upgrade bootloader (HBOOT) to 0.35.0017
Flash latest radio (5.12.00.08) - CHECK THE MD5 BEFORE FLASHING
Install Blackrose using the automatic method (It will not work without the HBOOT above)
Install custom blackrose from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897 - this increases the space available for ICS to install
Use recovery to do a full wipe three times (people had issues only wiping once)
Mount SD card via recovery and deleted/backed up everything.
Flash Evervolv-Perdo-2.1.0p4-passion.zip from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897
(Realize a bunch of things weren't working)
Use recovery to do a full wipe three times (people had issues only wiping once)
Flash MeDroid 4.1 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21093710&postcount=188
To do yet:
Upgrade as soon as 4.2 comes out to fix gallery - I'll probably just use adb to replace the current gallery app - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21097768&postcount=191
Replace MeDroid's boot animation with this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429308

Am I the only one to be a little knee-shaking when it comes to flashing radios? I mean, ****ing up the system or boot seems easily restorable, but flashing a corrupted or unsigned radio may turn your device into a fully usable paperweight?
That's kinda the reason I've stayed with the 5.08.00.04 or what it's called. I mean, it works for me and hasn't bugged in any way, so why upgrade it?

I agree it's scary, but I saw so many people using the same file without issues, I was alright with it. Radios are the only file I check md5 on for this reason.

I think you're ok if fastbooting the img and like loki980 said, checking md5
I've done it a few times with no issues

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That's kinda the reason I've stayed with the 5.08.00.04 or what it's called. I mean, it works for me and hasn't bugged in any way, so why upgrade it?
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In all my time in the CyanogenMod forum (which is probably waaay too much time), it seems that the 5.08 is the best supported radio with the N1. I have never seen issues fixed from going from the 5.08 to the 5.12, but I have seen quite a few fixed doing the reverse. A lot of people get great results with 5.12, but it seems that more have better luck with 5.08.
Plus, I am sure that Google did a lot of testing before they sent out the Gingerbread update, and I'd bet there is a reason they included the 5.08 instead of the 5.12.

Just bought (waiting for delivery) P990, any tips?

Hi chaps,
I just managed to brick my TG01 trying to get WP7 on it (can't believe it, have flashed endless WM ROM's and had Android running on as well without issue :-( )... so I have done a bit of a knee jerk and quickly bought an LG Optimus 2X to play with until I can figure out how/if I can fix the TG01.
Obviously I've read reviews and seen feedback, and hoping I don't get a dodgy one.. but I've bought my brand new sim free for £199 from Amazon so should give me some protection if it's broken.
Any tips other than doing the 2.3 update ASAP? (until ICS official comes out)

Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
Sent from my LG-Stone from the Prehistory....
Naaaahh... Just kidding!
CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave

Root it and install a security app like prey or cerberus, asap.

SP1996AC said:
Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
Sent from my LG-Stone from the Prehistory....
Naaaahh... Just kidding!
CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
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+1
Sent from my Optimus 2X using XDA App

Which ROM is considered the one where everything actually works on it? (Obviously people have preferences, but I'm new to this section).
Will rooting and flashing a custom rom stop me from upgrading to the official ICS later?
Where do I get the security programs/apps from? Are they on the market?

Scougar said:
Which ROM is considered the one where everything actually works on it? (Obviously people have preferences, but I'm new to this section).
Will rooting and flashing a custom rom stop me from upgrading to the official ICS later?
Where do I get the security programs/apps from? Are they on the market?
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I think temasek's CyanogenMod KANG is the best rom available, especially combined with Vadonkas KANG kernel.
Temasek's KANGs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421425
Vadonkas KANG kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427646
If you root it and flash CM on it, you'll obviously won't be able to get the official ICS update. But the truth is, LG is so 'great' that you likely have to wait until next year to get the next OTA. So the best thing is to root. Also, in a few weeks hopefully, CM9 will come out which is based on ICS.
I believe that you can find those apps in the market.
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave

A tip? Buy a Noreve Leather flip for it .. they rule
Aside from that: Can I just flash the newest temasek KANG (what does KANG stand for anyway?) and the newest KANG kernel you mentioned? Or do they have dependencies that could brick the P990? And what about the other business (rils and whatnot?).
And is it as simple as rooting it (I managed with Superoneclick with the latest OTA), installing rom manager, let rom manager install cwm (will that work? I also see temasek has a KANG CWM folder in this repository), boot into cwm, wipe everything and flash the temasek rom, and after than, repeat the same with a kernel zip?
The dependencies and sequences confuse me most. On the DHD I put ICS on, the ROM came with a working kernel. But in that Temsake KANG thread it says:
"Flashable zip for Stock CM Kernel with Voodoo Sound - for p990 only (Optional)"
For a CM kernel? So do I need this installed first somehow? All very confusing for newbies to flashing like me...

voon said:
A tip? Buy a Noreve Leather flip for it .. they rule
Aside from that: Can I just flash the newest temasek KANG (what does KANG stand for anyway?) and the newest KANG kernel you mentioned? Or do they have dependencies that could brick the P990? And what about the other business (rils and whatnot?). I also hope they all got voodoo in. A P990 without voodoo is a crime.
And is it as simple as rooting it (I managed with Superoneclick with the latest OTA), installing rom manager, let rom manager install cwm, boot into cwm, wipe everything and flash the temasek rom, and after than, repeat the same with a kernel zip?
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The latest temasek KANG with Vadonkas KANG kernel won't brick your phone. Many people use this combination and no one has bricked their phone so far.
A great CM KANG is nothing else but a CM rom but then developed by developers outside Cyanogen Team. They use Cyanogens source code and improve or change it anyway they want. KANGs are also more stable than normal nightlies.
So Vadonkas KANG kernel is just a kernel he improved/changed using source codes from others.
Note that temasek's kang standard comes with 218 RIL. You can change this manually with the GetRIL app. Basically you don't have to change the bb. Also, Vadonkas KANG kernel comes with voodoo sound so don't worry about that.
Then flashing:
1. Reboot into recovery
2. Backup rom
3. Wipe everything.
4. Flash rom.
5. Flash kernel
6. Flash Google Apps
7. Done, reboot.
If you come from cm, then you don't need to wipe everything, just cache and dalvik. Also, if you want to update your kang rom (temasek), you can just flash it over your previous rom.
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave

Thanks .. again "Boot into recovery" means I have to install CWM with rom manager first? I never installed CWM, so I'm not quite sure about that (on the DHD, the rooting ace hack thing did install that asfaik). And which gapps zip do I have to flash?
And maybe something about the RIL: I have no idea what it is. All I realize is, that it somehow has to match the kernel? or the hardware version? Or your area? I'm a bit confused on that as well, sorry.
EDIT: Ok ... Radio Interface Layer. A driver to the hardware's radio hardware? But that's static, so why all the various versions?

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Thanks .. again "Boot into recovery" means I have to install CWM with rom manager first? I never installed CWM, so I'm not quite sure about that (on the DHD, the rooting ace hack thing did install that asfaik). And which gapps zip do I have to flash?
And maybe something about the RIL: I have no idea what it is. All I realize is, that it somehow has to match the kernel? or the hardware version? Or your area? I'm a bit confused on that as well, sorry.
EDIT: Ok ... Radio Interface Layer. A driver to the hardware's radio hardware? But that's static, so why all the various versions?
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Haha no problem.
Yes you need to install CWM with rom manager first, preferably the most recent one.
Just the latest Gapps, you'll find them in the CyanogenMod wiki.
RIL has to match with your baseband so you'll have the best possible signal and minimal battery loss. The reason for al those versions is because of the fact that most countries have its own RIL. The app wil notify you if your bb and ril match. If not, flash another, if so, keep it that way .
Note: when you're coming from stock rom you need to wipe everything so also make titanium backup, just in case...
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave

Hm ... okay ... CWM is on it, done from Rom Manager, selected the LGE Optimus "x.... booted into it ... but it says it can not mount my SDCARD (large 32 GB thing, which works inside Android .. but oiccasionally seems to behave a bit difficult.).
EDIT: Trying another SDCARD now ... an old Samsung 8 GB. Hm nope ... it can't mount that 8 GB card, either They're just ordinary FAT32 formatted cards. Guess I'm stuck for now. Could there be something wrong with the CWM Version? Rom Manager did ask about the model, but I selected the correct one I assume.
EDIT2: It seems ROM Manager is not really flashing cwm? And that booting into it from Rom Manager causes the SDCARD moutn isssue due to soemthing called "redirector"? I tried getting into CWM by all kinds of fingerpress combinations I read about ... but nothing seems to work so far.
EDIT3: Seems working now ... Power + Volume Down ... like HBoot. It also sees the sdcard now, if you directly boot into it ... let's continue this journey....
EDIT4: Arrived. Tamasek ROM + Lower Power Kernel + Gapps. Now to find out what's better than stock ROM

For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.

vainqueur said:
For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.
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I agree! I did the same thing and i must say its a best thing for me. Hp sr 2 and pp v8.
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Excellent... picking up some ideas already (like being able to just flash a new kernel for example ) Might do that as don't want to lose functionality.
Whatever I do I will use it at stock for a week or so, to check the phone is stable (I will probably update to latest software from LG first though to be honest).
I have also ordered a 3500mah extended battery and case cover. £4.99. Something tells me it's going to be cack, but thought i'd give it a go (I've read about the whole battery calibration thing and needing to be rooted etc, so I'll ask about that at a later time). I just was not going to pay something like £75 for a mugen 4500mah battery that was even bigger. I believe mugen could easily fit three battery in parallel (including circuitry) in a 'T' shape to give the phone a thinner profile with a bigger battery. If I was able to get a battery cover that was a little bigger and fit, I would give it a go (I've wired a fair few batteries up recently). But I digress..

Scougar said:
Whatever I do I will use it at stock for a week or so, to check the phone is stable (I will probably update to latest software from LG first though to be honest).
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That's probably the worst you can do to check if your phone is stable LG ROMs were known to boot themselves etc, although I'm not sure if this still is the case. I didn't lose any functionality with flashing and it runs smooth as a baby tush. There's even a kernel using less power etc ...

voon said:
That's probably the worst you can do to check if your phone is stable LG ROMs were known to boot themselves etc, although I'm not sure if this still is the case. I didn't lose any functionality with flashing and it runs smooth as a baby tush. There's even a kernel using less power etc ...
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lol @ the "worst thing you can do" comment
What I meant is.. see if the phone has any problems, and see how it runs in general. I doubt LG would replace a phone with an alternative ROM if it goes wrong.
Also, without a baseline I can't determine how good an alternative ROM is. Also, with alternative ROM's on the TG01, I lost things such as being able to send/receive MMS's for some bizarre reason, and I see people saying things like "this app doesn't run, but does on stock", "no 3G vid calling on non-stock ROM"... so it's not as clean cut as you make out. I'm no stranger to hacking things about to get them to work, I'm a Dev in my job
Appreciate the advice guys, thank you

vainqueur said:
For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.
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can this kernel "Horsepower SR2" be used with LG unofficial 20o?
can u give a link?

SP1996AC said:
Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
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I he wants to try the gb it's really easy to root from gb as well...I had no problems.

iJonas said:
I he wants to try the gb it's really easy to root from gb as well...I had no problems.
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Yeah... I read it a few months ago that froyo was easier to root than gb, but I guess that they're both easy to root now

Well... it has arrived :-D Trying to decide whether to turn it on before attempting to fix my TG01, as the battery charger arrived today as well lol.
EDIT: By the way.. I have just plugged it in to do a long first charge. Is it ok to turn it on whilst it's charging and play with it? lol Also.. it's a "Made in Korea" version, not sure if that matters?
Update: Well, I've updated my phone with 2.3.4 from the official site. And so far, I'm really liking the phone Everything is super smooth, the screen is nice, and the battery life seems good so far. I only lost 5% battery last night over about 7 hours, and that's on the stock rom with the battery not calibrated on anything fancy being done, and 3g/data still on etc.
'So far' it seems like a solid phone Really don't like the way the back cover comes on an off though, that is a really poor design.