Is There Heat Problem in Xperia on Android Operating System
I can attest its not as bad as we saw on the first Android 1.6 and 2.0 'roms'.. it can only get lower when power consumption is fixed.
With WiFi only (all I use) it barely gets warm, but with 2g data, 3g and GPS..major heat. Tremere is right though, previous builds made me feel like I had a furness in my pocket even with WiFi only.
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My T-Mobile Compact IV gets pretty warm sometimes, not just when charging. Havent found any reason why that happens (any software etc). Wonder if its related to the poor battery life?
Anyone with T-Mobile exp same issue? Or is it ok... or should I go back to T-mobile with it?
I try to keep it on 2G helps battery a little. Cant do too many tweaks as my comp runs Linux and cant connect.
My battery is hot too, when I am using navigation .
It's not strictly over-heating but more a characteristic of the phone
Mine does it, and everyone elses does - more so when a connection of some sort is on - for instance, a phone call, constant internet connection, gps etc
There are many threads about this out there but I dont know if there is a solution from HTC (if it is even classed as a problem)
what i've noticed is that the sides get heated up....the only reason i can think of is the heat being disspated well by the diamond's metallic body(AL, is it?)....i'd say its a good thing.....well ofcourse not for our palm
I just replaced my aging iphone 4 with an HTC One M7.
So far, I'm loving having an Android phone, and I'm really glad I switched, but I seem to be having a problem with the phone.
It is getting pretty hot and the battery is draining alarmingly fast.
The phone was reset to factory settings when I received it yesterday, and it is the AT&T software version. It is on Android 4.4.2
Although this is my first Android phone, it is not my first Android device (Xperia Play used as a portable emulator, Nvidia Shield, Asus Memo Pad HD7) so I knew the obvious things to try.
The phone feels slightly warm at all times, even when just sitting in my pocket. When I have a CPU-intensive app (youtube for instance) running, the phone gets pretty hot.
I understand that the aluminum chassis transmits heat very efficiently, and that this phone should feel warmer than a plastic phone, so I installed a CPU temperature app.
I'm getting in the high 40's to low 50's (celsius) with no CPU-intensive apps running.
Looking in my running apps, I don't see anything that looks like it is making heavy demands on the CPU.
While at work today, I put it in airplane mode (but kept wifi on) because I don't get a very good signal at work anyway, and I thought this might be causing the battery to drain quickly.
I forgot about this, and so the phone has been in airplane mode since 1pm today (it is now 8:45).
While browsing the internet just now looking for a solution to the problem, I watched as the last 18% of the battery drained down to 1% in around 15 minutes.
This is in airplane mode, with battery saving mode activated, Blinkfeed deactivated, and the screen on minimum brightness.
Does this sound like abnormal behavior?
I need to know fast, because if there is something wrong with the phone, I need to return it without delay.
DoctorBeat said:
I just replaced my aging iphone 4 with an HTC One M7.
So far, I'm loving having an Android phone, and I'm really glad I switched, but I seem to be having a problem with the phone.
It is getting pretty hot and the battery is draining alarmingly fast.
The phone was reset to factory settings when I received it yesterday, and it is the AT&T software version. It is on Android 4.4.2
Although this is my first Android phone, it is not my first Android device (Xperia Play used as a portable emulator, Nvidia Shield, Asus Memo Pad HD7) so I knew the obvious things to try.
The phone feels slightly warm at all times, even when just sitting in my pocket. When I have a CPU-intensive app (youtube for instance) running, the phone gets pretty hot.
I understand that the aluminum chassis transmits heat very efficiently, and that this phone should feel warmer than a plastic phone, so I installed a CPU temperature app.
I'm getting in the high 40's to low 50's (celsius) with no CPU-intensive apps running.
Looking in my running apps, I don't see anything that looks like it is making heavy demands on the CPU.
While at work today, I put it in airplane mode (but kept wifi on) because I don't get a very good signal at work anyway, and I thought this might be causing the battery to drain quickly.
I forgot about this, and so the phone has been in airplane mode since 1pm today (it is now 8:45).
While browsing the internet just now looking for a solution to the problem, I watched as the last 18% of the battery drained down to 1% in around 15 minutes.
This is in airplane mode, with battery saving mode activated, Blinkfeed deactivated, and the screen on minimum brightness.
Does this sound like abnormal behavior?
I need to know fast, because if there is something wrong with the phone, I need to return it without delay.
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Is the phone brand new? It runs more the first time you turn it on, I think due to some profiling. If it's still like that the day after turning it on for the first time I'd probably be concerned. It could be due to something you've installed--what have you installed (if you don't mind sharing)?
I've definitely experienced what you're talking about on CyanogenMod, but never that I can recall on the stock ROM. When it happened on CyanogenMod, rebooting generally seemed to fix it.
So I don't know if anyone else have this problem. I'm running stock Sony Xperia Z rooted, the problem was there before I rooted it too. Whenever I use the phone for semi-heavy tasks like browsing facebook.com or watching youtube videos the battery drains quicker than what's being charged.
Is this normal? Does anyone else have this problem?
As i saw on my friend phone, this is normal on stock and on any fw. IMO battery is just old and that's reason why it's happening.
normal on stock, it's batter to install CM 12.1
Does CM 12.1 fix this issue???!!!!because this issue eating my head since a long time..i m using stock rom
For problem of draining battery when charing and using phone at the same time: its normal, and not only for Stock rom, its actually problem of how phone distribute power and how demanding those apps are that you use. An because most of apps, even those well known like chrome or facebook lack any optimization and android it self really can manage that either... we end in thin phones with powerful hardware(because xz is still good in this term) that make loots of heat and need lots of power.
Solution that I found when I used XZ was buying charger that had 2A or 2,4A instead of deafult 1.5-1.8A. Its not good for battery lifespan in long term time, and it make phone a bit more hot than normally, but Its only solution that actually work: phone dont lose charge when using apps and it charge way faster than normally.
In terms of hot phone when using heavy apps(because even facebook is heavy looking how resource demanding it is)... its normal, Its really bad for usage experience, its annoying... but its normal, new phones have the same problem, OnePlus, Xperia Z3... they all the same. And its all because of power that Android need to run smooth, and thickness of devices.
In Xperia Z we have glass front and back, and glass is not that great in terms of thermal conductivity, so it can keep that temp for few minutes after usage, and it can get hot really quickly. But even if now I put wooden custom made back on my xz, and I put on chip thermal paste that I had after replacing CPU in my pc, it dont get so hot, but I use it now as a smart extension device for my TV, and with MHL cable+charging it hot all the time, but after whole month of usage as a smartTV I can say that high temp dont affect performance so beside annoying usage its not that bad.
the phone lowers charging current when it's getting too hot, i noticed it with amperly app. also thermanager.xml has listed these values in system/etc/
yes this phone is terribly designed, charging takes forever even if you are not using it
Hello, I got my phone fixed the mic, then I reinstalled the android Lollipop 5.0 rooted build, since then I don't know if the phone is having software or hardware issues, signal strength is under normal compared with another s5 (I believe is a radio issue), battery drains in 4 or less hours, the screens can be hot when using it or even in stand by, and some times the phone resets itself when I put the phone on table a bit hard, what should I do, I don't remember having those issues before fixing the mic.
Thank for help
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
bandario said:
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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This is what you get when you use a high performance chip.
If it was like cars.. just because the gas tank is big (battery) doesn't mean that the engine won't consume the fuel faster than a more Efficient engine (cpu) with less power.
Other phones might be able to last 3 days, but they also dont have the performance capabilities. Turn on extreme power saving and see how long the phone lasts ...
I'm using stock unbranded ROM. I also adp uninstalled all the Facebook system apps (devil-ware). With Pie + OneUI + Night mode + Dark UI apps, it's the first time I love stock. I bet your non-stock ROM + TGP is the culprit.
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
gruuvin said:
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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YEP!
And same goes for wifi.....
wifi and cell radios can really eat up battery if they are trying to maintain a connection in areas where wifi/phone signal is weak. And app like Tasker or Automate can toggle these on and off, depending on your location, and really save battery.
Well, that probably explains a few things. I moved in to a SOLID brick building recently with double glazing everywhere and multiple solid brick internal walls. First time I've ever battled for cell and wifi signal...that does explain a lot. I guess 2 days is still pretty good. Might end up with one of those 10,000mah Chinafones eventually ;p