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I can tell by what im reading here you all know your stuff very well. I, on the other hand, do not know what the heck your talking about %90 of the time. I HAVE searched the threads to see if I can get some straight info on my dilemma and cant find a simple enough answer to follow. So, im going to ask the question knowing it may have been asked and answered before. This time, im hoping, someone can give me an answer in laymans terms I can actually follow and perform.
My question is this:
I have both an O2 XDA Mini S AND a Cingular 8125. Same unit, different look. The O2 is UNLOCKED, the Cingular is LOCKED. I prefer the Cingular unit but Id much rather have the O2 OS and software. I was told if I was to re-install the O2 operating system (is this known as the ROM?) onto the Cingular device I would not only get the best of both worlds but It would also effectively UNLOCK the Cingular device at the same time (which I need as im not a cingular customer).
Can anyone tell me HOW to do this without all the confusing info and big words. Im not an idiot, im just not inclined technically... at least not this way.
I have used threads on this site to unlock phones before and im very good at following directions. But when the directions start asking for Radio versions and other things like that I just loose it. Is there a simple way to just erase whats on the 8125 and load whats on the XDA Mini S? If I do this is everything going to be screwed up and require a bunch of fiddling around to make all the features work? I dont want to improve on anything, I just want the functionality of the O2 with the form of the Cingular.
Any help with this would be great. I dont require anyone to tell me to search the forums for an answer. If thats what you feel you need to do, just dont post. Ive searched and cant find what im looking for.
Thanks to all those who make this site possible. You make the devices I love work for me when others cant.
Pavmentsurfer
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Have you already read this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
It's hard to be more clear than this...
Bye 8)
Wow, just read that post RANGEL. Im beginning to think im simply too much of a beginner to do something like this. As I said, im not an idiot, but im not inclined towards this type of stuff. I was hoping for a simple, link to link, step by step walkthrough of how to, quite simply, put an unlocked O2 OS onto my Cingular device. I have no idea what all the technical jargon on that thread you liked to means.
I think ill just take the safe route and stick with my unlocked O2 XDA Mini S and not mess with anything. The last thing I want is to mess up a $500 device. Ill just sell the Cingular device on e-bay.
Thanks for the link though. Unless something much more simple comes along I need to be smart enough to know when im outmatched.
Pavmentsurfer
pavmentsurfer,
I also noticed (it is hard not to) confusing style of these forum. We are maybe just too old...
There are just too many typed letters in these messages. Some threads are speeded on more than 15 pages. :shock:
Who can read all that from the beginning to the end? :roll:
This link, rangel sended, is one of the easiest, but...
I made copy/paste to word all relevant (I hope so) lines. Otherwise it is too hard to follow guide across thread, because it is too many noise around main speaker/writer.
I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?
If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!
yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet
Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.
Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???
hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade
First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!
Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?
There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?
True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.
We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...
I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.
I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.
OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
Thatplayboy said:
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.
Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.
It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.
I have an older version of touch-it i got off the wings thread, after like 20 hours of reading, and have used it ever since. Now i am back to reading countless threads, and come to the realization i have a htc atlas*t-mobile wing, and wonder if i am in the right categories for software and things. I have been happy with the rom i have installed off this category except wonder if my phone has more potential because i might not of been reading the right category for my specific phone. I have never had video working on my phone is one thing i wonder if others have. I would love any help. I do have some questions if possible, i have not just jumped in and not try understanding myself.
if anyone is willing to point me in the right direction or have a conversation on the purple T-mobile Wing, *HTC Atlas or whatever that would be sweet!
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=756
is my specific phone. does that mean there is limitations to which .roms I am using? I am ready to upgrade the os on it... its HTC 4350 Atlas - Aka T-mobile Wing...
installed coreplayer to no avail as well... thanks for reading
I dont remember what the T-mobile wing is called, but its not the S730.
Since this is the wrong forum for the T-Mobile Wing we cant offer too much help there is a forum on XDA for your phone, but I am on my phone and digging that up right now would take a while
If you got the rom for your phone off of this forum it is possible aspects of it are running less than your phone could run them at but I would only see that being a driver issue instead of Rom issue.
Hi all, I've been reading through this forum for the past week now, partially because of all the bad reviews for the Tilt, and partially because I like my devices to work better than they "should".
I've reached a problem though... During my readings, I began to get confused with why this ROM or that ROM was flashed on, and which version of WinCE was on at the time the ROM was flashed. As my brand new-still in the box Tilt (With Win6.1) will be here this Thursday, I find myself wondering "So what do I do to make my phone better?"
This is my first smart phone I've ever had, and the main reason I purchased it is so I can write while in transit to work or such, occasionally watch a movie or listen to some music, oh, and to use the internet. Unfortunately, this also means I seem to have missed the class on safely flashing ROMs, if I need to sit and write down phone information that may not be stored on the SIM, and even the most basic of all, "Do I need to do this to make it run smoothly?" I mean, most of the problems I seem to see deal with Win 5.x, or 6.0.
I reckon the best way to phrase it is, "While I would like to make it better, I want to know if (1) it's worth taking the time to do, and (2) what kind of boost are we looking at? 10%? 50? 100%?"
Any opinions, help, advice, directions or links, how-to's or whatever would greatly be appreciated.
~T.Miller
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Hi all, I've been reading through this forum for the past week now, partially because of all the bad reviews for the Tilt, and partially because I like my devices to work better than they "should".
I've reached a problem though... During my readings, I began to get confused with why this ROM or that ROM was flashed on, and which version of WinCE was on at the time the ROM was flashed. As my brand new-still in the box Tilt (With Win6.1) will be here this Thursday, I find myself wondering "So what do I do to make my phone better?"
This is my first smart phone I've ever had, and the main reason I purchased it is so I can write while in transit to work or such, occasionally watch a movie or listen to some music, oh, and to use the internet. Unfortunately, this also means I seem to have missed the class on safely flashing ROMs, if I need to sit and write down phone information that may not be stored on the SIM, and even the most basic of all, "Do I need to do this to make it run smoothly?" I mean, most of the problems I seem to see deal with Win 5.x, or 6.0.
I reckon the best way to phrase it is, "While I would like to make it better, I want to know if (1) it's worth taking the time to do, and (2) what kind of boost are we looking at? 10%? 50? 100%?"
Any opinions, help, advice, directions or links, how-to's or whatever would greatly be appreciated.
~T.Miller
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First Trey, let me say, welcome to XDA! The biggest improvment you can do to your Tilt is going to be a ROM upgrade! The ROM is the OS of your phone and as you are getting a newer tilt you will most likely have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it but it will include a quote\unquote "custom ROM" from at&t which will be chock full of alot of at&t stuff(advertising in the way of logos and animation) that will slow your phone down, as well as a CID (security lock) to keep you for installing most of the good free apps that are available for the tilt! You will want to spend alot of time reading here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835 and getting to know your device and what some of the terms used here are! I am usualy on the forum quite a bit and if you have questions feel free to PM me and ask away! The key is to read and learn, I will be happy to help if you need it!
Thanks for that! Everything makes more sense now that I've got that AT&T OS piece understood. Looks like I've got more reading to do. ^_^
I have moved his over to the appropiate section and copied and pasted my question.
I am new to this forum and apologize for my noobness in advance as i wasn't sure either to post this here or in the Android Software and Hacking General section and i appreciate any comments as i understand i am new here and have contributed nothing to this forum. Here is my dilemma, i recently purchased a t mobile g1 from a friend about two weeks ago because i was interested in the android OS. Being in the UK it is locked to the T-mobile network which my existing sim is orange. I understand that there was a developers ROM that was released (codenamed holiday (adp 1.1)) which allows other networks to be used on the g1 e.g orange etc as its a developer version. I was wondering what compatible ROMS for the g1 (htc dream) that would allow me to use my orange sim. Again i really do appreciate nay comments and help i receive and understand i have not contributed to this community and it is highly rude to ask for something when given nothing.
Changing the ROM on your device will not unlock it so that you can use it on any network. You need to get an unlock code for your device. T-Mobile US will give these out to their subscribers but I don't know about your carier. If they don't you can get it online too. They will need your phone's IMEI to generate the code. Just put in the new SIM and it will prompt you for the code regardless of the ROM you have.
isnt there such a thing as a hardware unlock though if i use a custom rom?. I brought this phone from a friend so i doubt phoning t-mobile will help get me a code.
p.s. cheers for taking the time to comment
No, I'm fairly sure the only way to unlock this device is what I posted above.
i thought you just needed a t-mob sim to login and then you were free to choose after this whole rooting/flashing thing.
its already a long time ago, so i might confuse a lot and its only that what i think to know. nothing sure..
i wanted an android phone and my friend was saying i culd get his off him and i thought that be a perfect time to get into the android os and stuff, i wasnt ure if i coulld by rooting/flashing that id be able to use another network thats why i wondered if i flashed it to a deveopler rom the adp1 one i could us another sim, i will look into the method beav_35 put but im not sure on any reputable sites to trust to do this method.