Am I stupid if I upgrade from Nexus One to Captivate ? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers

it really depends on a few things:
can you survive without a trackball? if you do any remote desktop stuff, a trackball is almost essential. also some games work better with a trackball as opposed to your fat finger covering up most of the screen (including whatever you're trying to control).
do you currently not have a case on your n1? you'll def need one with the captivate (or any galaxy s phone), as they aren't built like the n1. they don't have a unibody design that resists overall damage to the phone. if you get a galaxy s device, i highly recommend getting a hard case for it.
can you live with not always having the latest and greatest developments on your device?being that the nexus is now the second google developer phone, you can almost guarantee that it'll have everything FIRST. any developing directly from google or the other XDA devs will most likely be implemented on the nexus before any other phone.
just a few things to consider. i'm sure someone will add some more...
you could also think of it this way: would you be willing to trade in your honda civic tuner (with nos, supercharger, and the works) for a mustang/camaro or equivalent?

I've actually seriously considered this (but for the Vibrant) and come to the conclusion that you will not be disappointed by either choice. One thing you could do is post a similar question in the Captivate forums but ask what people opinion of the captivate is from previous nexus one users.
On the note of the AMOLED screen and the gpu its a matter of importance? Do you play a lot of games? If so the gpu will definitely be a necessity. If you watch a lot of media the screen will be a must.
Do you mod/plan to mod your phone a lot? If so then the Nexus might still be the better choice.
Also the trackball is gone so there is no led notifications on the Galaxy S phones.
-Cheers

antoniouslj said:
it really depends on a few things:
can you survive without a trackball? if you do any remote desktop stuff, a trackball is almost essential. also some games work better with a trackball as opposed to your fat finger covering up most of the screen (including whatever you're trying to control).
do you currently not have a case on your n1? you'll def need one with the captivate (or any galaxy s phone), as they aren't built like the n1. they don't have a unibody design that resists overall damage to the phone. if you get a galaxy s device, i highly recommend getting a hard case for it.
can you live with not always having the latest and greatest developments on your device?being that the nexus is now the second google developer phone, you can almost guarantee that it'll have everything FIRST. any developing directly from google or the other XDA devs will most likely be implemented on the nexus before any other phone.
just a few things to consider. i'm sure someone will add some more...
you could also think of it this way: would you be willing to trade in your honda civic tuner (with nos, supercharger, and the works) for a mustang/camaro or equivalent?
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Well I havent had an opportunity/requirements to do any Remote Desktops so havent used trackball to its full potential.. but I love the trackball notifications.
I do have a hard case and a lovely one for my N1 [Seidio]. Yes I would ofcourse get a hard case for any phone that I buy.
Third point is really important. I am a CM source builder.. and I do that almost every 2 days from my laptop. I would hate to not be able to do that to the Captivate..
Choices Choices.. Cant pick one..

android.activate said:
Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
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Hi
I had the UK version the Galaxy s and I have to say I was very disappointed. The lag problem is a massive issue after owning the Nexus and the Touchwiz is very cartoon like but that's a matter of opinion, and if you try and use Launcher Pro it starts to slow down even more. The gps another known issue does not work and the internet is slow. The screen is fab and so is the HD video but that's it. The build is poor and as for regular updates from Samsung ? well you know there history.
I always said that I would not have a Samsung for one reason or another but this looked great, but I'm bitterly disappointed and with Handsets like this coming out, it's going to put new owners of Android off.
So I have sent mine back and got a new Nexus as my daughter had my other and she prefers it to her IPhone 3GS........Good girl
Sorry if I ranted on.......

Blueman101 said:
I've actually seriously considered this (but for the Vibrant) and come to the conclusion that you will not be disappointed by either choice. One thing you could do is post a similar question in the Captivate forums but ask what people opinion of the captivate is from previous nexus one users.
On the note of the AMOLED screen and the gpu its a matter of importance? Do you play a lot of games? If so the gpu will definitely be a necessity. If you watch a lot of media the screen will be a must.
Do you mod/plan to mod your phone a lot? If so then the Nexus might still be the better choice.
Also the trackball is gone so there is no led notifications on the Galaxy S phones.
-Cheers
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The question is posted on Captivate forums.. awaiting feedback.
Yes, I love playing games, I play HomeRunBattle 3D, and Asphalt5 mostly. HrB 3D is still manageable, but Asphalt 5 is a power hungry beast that brings the Nexus to its knees...
But alas.. I am an android developer and I love the mods and and trying out stuff..
Questions.. Questions... (TODO or NOT TODO ) !!

android.activate said:
The question is posted on Captivate forums.. awaiting feedback.
Yes, I love playing games, I play HomeRunBattle 3D, and Asphalt5 mostly. HrB 3D is still manageable, but Asphalt 5 is a power hungry beast that brings the Nexus to its knees...
But alas.. I am an android developer and I love the mods and and trying out stuff..
Questions.. Questions... (TODO or NOT TODO ) !!
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If u love to flash and tweak, then the N1 will do the trick

Exactly. Its harder to tweak the galaxy series. I love my n1, but have been drooling over the captivate.

Gingerbread is just around the corner, and there will be a whole new wave of devices out that blow the SGS away. I see the Galaxy S as more of a side-grade, I'm afraid.

Don't you lose "unlimited" data if you upgrade your contract with ATT?

i think you can keep your unlimited data if you were grandfathered in.
anyway if you get the captivate you should flash stock android on it immediately. i played with a captivate 2 days ago, and it was actually not as smooth as the nexus running launcher pro. plus i hated the UI samsung put on there. the nexus is just so open and easy to tweak, i'd be a hard decision. plus have you seen the Desire HD yesterday? so many phoens are around the corner. i wont be tempted until something really blows away the nexus, like dual core CPU. the galaxy is still too close to matching the nexus specs, 1ghz, 512mb, etc.
you could save your upgrade. or use it on an iphone 4 and sell that thing for like 600 bucks profit.

RogerPodacter said:
i think you can keep your unlimited data if you were grandfathered in.
anyway if you get the captivate you should flash stock android on it immediately. i played with a captivate 2 days ago, and it was actually not as smooth as the nexus running launcher pro. plus i hated the UI samsung put on there. the nexus is just so open and easy to tweak, i'd be a hard decision. plus have you seen the Desire HD yesterday? so many phoens are around the corner. i wont be tempted until something really blows away the nexus, like dual core CPU. the galaxy is still too close to matching the nexus specs, 1ghz, 512mb, etc.
you could save your upgrade. or use it on an iphone 4 and sell that thing for like 600 bucks profit.
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So do I sell my IPhone Contract too..? I am not sure how selling of iPhone works.

I also looked at the Galaxy S series (although the Vibrant not the Captivate) but I prefer the trackball for being able to precisely edit text. I think that Gingerbread will make a world of difference and the N1will of course get it first... Samsung has a horrible history of updates and on a more personal level Touchwiz looks like a cartoon and I hate it. I LOVE stock (vanilla) android. Just my humble opinion.

One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.

dowmace said:
One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.
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yeah i was just gonna say
The hummingbird 1ghz wrecks the snapdragon 1ghz (sadly) but the reason currently the n1 is winning is because of Froyo and the JIT. Just look at the quadrant scores pre-froyo

I took my Vibrant back for the fact that...
I missed the Track Ball.
I missed the sturdy, heavy build of the Nexus, the Vibrant is very cheap and plastic feeling.
I missed the Flash on the camera.
I just over all hope that a phone similar to the Nexus but with a larger screen is developed..

android.activate said:
So do I sell my IPhone Contract too..? I am not sure how selling of iPhone works.
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No you just sell the iPhone itself. You can remove the iPhone off your account anytime you want, even the day after you sign the new contract. All ATT cares about is that you pay your bill every month and fulfill your 2 years. So you can take the iPhone data plan off your account immediately.
It's an option to consider. Some people do it but if you aren't comfortable then don't worry about it.

dowmace said:
One thing to highly consider is that the hummingbird processor is not as fast as ours in the n1 it may run at 1ghz but it doesn't process as fast, my wife has a vibrant and I've run several benchmarks on both devices and the n1 blows the vibrant away every single time.
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Your joking right ? The only benchmark the n1 wins in is linpack . Cause of jit... quadrant we get 2200 with a hack without jit vs 1300 or so on n1? The sgs wins in almost every benchmark ..... the gpu totally smashes the n1... I've had both, n1 is a Tad faster feeling due to stock android ..... and jit ...
Gps works fine on my vibrant ...
N1 is awesome , but sgs wins hands down... especially soon with all 4 carriers having it... it'll have plenty mods.
Oh and it does not feel cheap ... not as sturdy as the n1 but n1 is heavier and will fall harder... also it comes with a extra cover for the back.. just awesome..
I love my n1, but my vibrant eats it alive.. especially in gpu .

I have both an and a captivate. N1 build quality is superb. N1 customization is awesome. Awesome dev support. Guaranteed firmeware support unlike samsung. You never know when samsung will stop upgrading. No guarantee they will get gingerbread neither. But n1 is getting outdated. But still my everyday phone.
However, captivate is a great device. Great samoled screen. Built quality is okay. Not as quality as n1. Very plasticee. At least captivate has the metal plate on the back to look cool. Vibrant all plastic. Not doggy the iphony lol. Sure this will get outdated soon but all devices will. It will matter whether u want the device now. You wait for the next device another one comes out. That's technology. There are mods on this device built by xda devs already. Already out putting crazy benchmark numbers. But not as smoothas the n1 on custom froyo. However cyanogen mod is in the works. They will be support by not comparable to n1. So far i like both device. Sure track ball and froyo is nice. But having the capability to play and watch games and movies with hd quality nice too. So i wouldn't completely cross out captivate or galaxy s. I just wish i had the euro version though. They seem to have more devs working on it. Captivate and vibrabrant dev is little slower then galaxy s. But can't beat a $100 for a fine piece of technology.
Oh btw, i upgraded both of my parents line with iphone 4 and sold those suckers for 600 bucks per pop. Save that money to buy something else when something better comes out. Perhaps nexus two. Lol. Or maybe the Htc desire hd/ace. I hope they release the quad band gsm version. Prob euros will be out late this year, hope i can't import a asian quad band or aussie quad band version.
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Is it unlikely the Nexus One will be overtaken soon?

As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!
my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.
Blueman101 said:
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.
Jack_R1 said:
+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.
The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
kitsunisan said:
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
samac92 said:
A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.
In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.
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Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.
If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.
evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.
Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.
If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..
If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone

Help!!! keep Nexus one or Samsung galaxy S

Ok I need help from the XDA Family and Hardcore N1 users. I have a Dilemma and I need to make a decision fast. I have a nexus one and Have had since Feb 10 and I Love the phone. I just started a professional job and Kind of need a Blackberry. I have an upgrade available thru Tmobile and I was thinking of Selling my nexus one, I have a buyer. The deal is I get $300 cash and their BB 9700 (its 2months old and in great shape). I then can use my upgrade and get the Samsung Galaxy. So I will then Have a Blackberry 9700 and Samsung Vibrant AND $100 CASH left over, but no Nexus one anymore . What are your thoughts? im in love with the N1 and wondering will I miss much going to the Samsung Vibrant!!!
If you don't plan on messing with android code or writing apps, get galaxy s.
They are both awesome, but for end user, galaxy s is a bit better choice,IMO.
also check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717134
Nexus One Forum, so the Nexus wins.
DarkDvr said:
If you don't plan on messing with android code or writing apps, get galaxy s.
They are both awesome, but for end user, galaxy s is a bit better choice,IMO.
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Got it, I just plan to use the phone, Thanks!
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also check this thread:
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Thanks, some of my concerns also...
xyellx said:
Nexus One Forum, so the Nexus wins.
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Haha! N1 wins huh! I feel attached to the N1. This is a hard choice. but 2 phones for 1
So you will use 2 phones? I think the nexus looks much more professional looking than the Samsung galaxy, and nexus has better build quality and materials since the Samsung is plastic. But it has better features. But I dunno, the nexus is so hackable, its still the ultimate geek phone.
Get the galaxy s.. so much better than nexus one in terms of specs
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RogerPodacter said:
So you will use 2 phones? I think the nexus looks much more professional looking than the Samsung galaxy, and nexus has better build quality and materials since the Samsung is plastic. But it has better features. But I dunno, the nexus is so hackable, its still the ultimate geek phone.
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Yes, I plan to use the BB9700 monday thru thursday at work and Friday thru sunday use the Samsung S or nexus 1
I doubt the Galaxy S will ever be as customizable and mod-friendly as the N1. Just keep that in mind, since Samsung doesn't make their devices' kernel open-source.
xzr3b0rnzx said:
Get the galaxy s.. so much better than nexus one in terms of specs
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really?
I dont see too much different to be honest.. What specifically are you talking about except:
- 1280x720 (720p HD) video recording
- Super AMOLED vs AMOLED
- built in 16gb
Personally I can live without all of those to guarantee i get updates first. Also i dont trust samsung at all to continue to support this phone (see my other post)
EDIT Galaxy S is 9.9mm vs 11.5 for N1, and also has FM radio.
Still not a huge difference.
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really?
I dont see too much different to be honest.. What specifically are you talking about except:
- 1280x720 (720p HD) video recording
- Super AMOLED vs AMOLED
- built in 16gb
Personally I can live without all of those to guarantee i get updates first. Also i dont trust samsung at all to continue to support this phone (see my other post)
EDIT Galaxy S is 9.9mm vs 11.5 for N1, and also has FM radio.
Still not a huge difference.
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Will Tmobile version have the front facing camera? Ive read that it will and others that it will not. Can anyone confirm? Thanks
GSMarena said that the vibrant has a front facing cam. But sometimes gsmarena has inaccurate info.
NexusDro said:
GSMarena said that the vibrant has a front facing cam. But sometimes gsmarena has inaccurate info.
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Thanks! Ive read so much and alot of different conflicting info
I really love the track ball over the optical pad. Your finger can feel each rotation of the trackball and it is just much more user friendly for me. Also, the Galaxy borrowed a lot from the iPhone OS, which I dont like the look of. The Nexus One is just so awesome looking.
Unless a phone comes out with something better than the snapdragon I will stick to the Nexus. (Hopefully not long til a 1.5 or 2.0 ghz phone)
N1 just got FroYo so it's like a new phone already, plus I underclock to 800mhz most of the day and get well over 24 hours battery life. being able to open an app a few milliseconds faster would have no affect on my day.
"I want an iPhone 4" (watch)
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http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
Samsung's site has no mention of the front camera though
Galaxy has front facing camera, better rear camera (2.8f, but no flash), fm tuner (transmitter ? i dont know), bigger and much better SAMOLED display, much better GPU, better battery life.
pretty good phone. flash is important for me for flash light purpose only, Nexus car dock is cool too, such a HUGE 3rd party support for Nexus is a BIG plus, Samsungs lacks 2.2, but will get it later and that will probably be its last Android OS update.....
The fact that Nexus gets updated first and many apps and tweaks here get released for Nexus ONLY, makes Nexus THE best Android phone to date, although Galaxy is very attractive hardware-wise.......will see when its released....
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... plus, Samsungs lacks 2.2, but will get it later and that will probably be its last Android OS update.....
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Thank you for the heads up! I never even thought about this possibility.
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really?
I dont see too much different to be honest.. What specifically are you talking about except:
- 1280x720 (720p HD) video recording
- Super AMOLED vs AMOLED
- built in 16gb
Personally I can live without all of those to guarantee i get updates first. Also i dont trust samsung at all to continue to support this phone (see my other post)
EDIT Galaxy S is 9.9mm vs 11.5 for N1, and also has FM radio.
Still not a huge difference.
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Galaxy has twice as fast GPU
Better media player xvid/divx
id still go for the nexus. but ive played around with the galaxy s... boy is it fast and thats still on 2.1... its gonna get a lot faster once it gets 2.2
the screen trumps that of the nexus in brightness and in size. super amoled ftw!
I've played with one of the Samsung Galaxy variants and the difference between Super AMOLED and "plain" AMOLED (as found on the N1) is negligible... inside. Outside, in bright and direct sunlight, Super AMOLED is easier to read than AMOLED; although the LCD on a Palm Pre wins that contest hands down. I've read there is no front facing camera on the T-Mobile and AT&T variants and there is no LED camera flash. Had the phone included a FFC and LED flash it would have been a no brainer. Since they took those items out of the equation, the choice becomes far more difficult. The build quality has been discussed, as has the size of each phone. A few sticking points for me are as follows:
N1 has a multi-color trackball. It may not seem like a big deal, but the increased precision of using the trackball to select among many small links on a webpage is something I prefer to have. Additionally, the multi-color trackball allows me to know, at a glance, if I have an unread SMS, MMS, email or a missed call.
LED camera flash - seriously Samsung, this is 2010. Although I rarely take night shots with my N1, I frequently use the LED flash as a torch to light the way.
System updates - Odds are any Samsung phone will be months behind the N1 on software updates. If you like the latest and greatest software enhancements, Google's Nexus One is a solid bet.
That being said, the Hummingbird really flies; the menus are silky smooth and 3d gaming will be better. The multi-touch display of the Samsung is far superior to that of the janky Synaptics Clearpad 2000 found in the N1.
Although this decision will be difficult to make, it's nice to have this decision at all! Do remember there is always something better on the horizon. Since the Galaxy is, at best, a minor upgrade to the N1, you could always wait to see if this dual core (or dual processor) HTC Vision materializes. Wouldn't you rather hold on to your full discount upgrade until something a bit more revolutionary comes out?

WTB Nexus One or Samsung Galaxy S?

Hello,
Which one should do you guys think I should buy?
The Nexus One or the Samsung Galaxy S?
I really like the N1 because its really fast with Froyo 2.2 and it has a nice look to it and because it has an LED flash. Also because it has Adobe Flash but I dont really need all that because Im only 14 years old and im going to use it for texting mostly. and is texting on the N1 good? like is it responsive?
But I also like the SGS because it has a 4 inch scrren with an SUPER AMOLED screen. And i also like it because its really fast with games and the 720p recording is really good. But I dont really like the UI on it so do you guys think I could change it and make it look like the N1s UI? and is it good texting with this phone?
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Seeing that you are in the N1 forums, I'd say get a Nexus One
Why don't you wait until the S comes out to see how you like it? Spec wise it looks dope but I've always been disappointed by Samsung in the past...
I would die for either at 14. That said either is good
I would think the galaxy's better game performance would be a winner for you as well, the superior multitouch could help in emulators and other games due to the lack of hardware controls. I also say get some hands on with the galaxy and see how well it is built and your like of the UI. I use a launcher replacement that lets me use the Galaxy style app menu, and its not better or worse, just different.
I do not know who is paying for the phone, so I can not advocate the rooting side for you; seems irresponsible if parents or someone else is footing the bill. If its your money feel free to take the risk on warranty and brick potential issues if you so wish. The N1 has the rooting ease going for it.
If you don't want gingerbread the moment it comes out then I'd say get the Samsung. =)
Hey I'm 14, and I'd say texting on the N1 is okay, if not a bit irritating the first time you use it. I'd recommend you getting the HTC_IME keyboard, which is MUCH better than anything else out there IMHO.
You'd like the Galaxy S because it's faster, thinner, lighter, has a larger (spectacular-looking Super AMOLED) screen, has better multimedia capabilities, has TV out, has built-in storage and has a better camera.
On the other hand, you'd like the Nexus One because of the coloured notifications, the build quality, the reliability, the customization, the first-in-line for updates privileges, the community support and the wonderful HTC support. You might also will prefer the stock Android experience over TouchWiz that Samsung shoves into their phones.
Also, the Nexus One - being a Google phone - has the largest selection of Custom ROMs and root options to it. There's just so much to tinker with. If you don't want to tinker with your phone then the Galaxy S may be more suitable but otherwise the N1 wins hands-down.
Seeing that you want games and 720p video (which the N1 does), the Galaxy S seems better. The SGX + Cortex A8 combo is much faster than the Snapdragon + Adreno in the Nexus One.
Nexus one with swype done deal.
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If you're mainly going to be texting, go with the Galaxy. The N1 has some annoying issues with its touch screen.
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Nexus one with swype done deal.
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I second that, swype is the only constantly reliable keyboard replacement that I've found.
if both phones had identical features, i would say go with the nexus because its far superior build quality. hell, the galaxy is only like, what, 115 grams or something? its INCREDIBLY lightweight feeling/plasticy/cheap toy feel, while the nexus is solid aluminim, rather heavy, and just feels like a high quality machine in your hand. plus its so thin.
that said, the galaxy does have better GPU and CPU for gaming. but samsung do not update their phones, so you wont get updates unless you root your phone. just search the forum, this topic has come up a lot already with lots of useful info already posted.
i wouldn't get the Samsung for 2 reasons
1: 4" inch screen.. the Nexus screen is perfect size for me and the 4 inch screen will be way to big for me. but its all in a personal decision.
2: it's SAMSUNG.. meaning poor and almost non-existent updates and poor customer support.
And WTF, it doesn't come with a SD Card included some places.. that's very poor by Samsung.. Those specs, that price and no SD included??

Need lil help/All input welcomed

I have a Nexus One running cm7 theme Inexus and I love this phone. Its in great shape and never thought in my mind I would ever consider selling it. Everything about it since I first got it, does everything I want it to do. Now comes into the question. I'm with T-Mobile and been with them since the begining but I feel it's time to say goodbye to them for couple different reasons. Looks like I'm going to go with cincinnati bell and they told me I could use my Nexus One with them that was great news. When I was at the store I picked up the Galaxy S and felt pretty good.
Whats the pros and cons of Nexus One and the Galaxy S. Or even though the Galaxy S felt good not on same level of N1?
Thanks for all that might beable to help me with this question.
Don't know if it matters. I have had a nexus one. Later, on ATT I picked up a captivate. I personally loved the feel of it, but the gps issues and the lack of a camera flash were game breakers to me. However, the power in screen quality almost made up for it. But here I am, sold my captivate and have an att nexus one and still love it.
Well, honestly, I would never move away from the Nexus One for a Galaxy S at this moment in time... yeah, the phone has great features but lacks the build quality of the Nexus One... the "plastic" finish just doesn't cut it... too many surface scratches too easily!!
This is the input I'm looking for, thanks guys keep them coming. I don't want to regret getting rid of my N1 if the time comes. I wish the N1 speaker sounded just a lil bit better when listening to music. But not complaining cause my N1 has been out standing for me. My girl has a comet and the speaker when listening to music sounds like its coming from a high end stereo ha.
If the AT& -T-Mobile deal goes through, would you eventually be without a 3G signal once AT&T scaps the AWS band frequency? Does Cincinatti Bell roam onto TMO's towers?
Not sure good question. Where I live with T-Mobile I'm just outside the 3g coverage. I use wifi at home. 10mins up the road 3 g kicks in.
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If the AT& -T-Mobile deal goes through, would you eventually be without a 3G signal once AT&T scaps the AWS band frequency? Does Cincinatti Bell roam onto TMO's towers?
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They haven't been clear yet on how the merge would affect current phones. But one would assume they would only use the EDGE network. Because of the time it would take to finalize the deal they would most likely be able to keep the network intact till the contract ends and either offer replacements or some sort of compensation for rendering the phones useless on their new network.
Has anybody had a galaxy and a nexus one? Do they run bout the same? I know galaxy Dosnt have a flash on camera. Looking for lil more pros and cons.
Trackball, and Trackball wake
I myself have had ample time to play with both devices as my lil bro has a nexus s and i have a nexus one yes the build quality by HTC is better than the Sammy but with 500 dollar phones you had better have a case on that sucker so the plastic feel would be out the widow there. Now the hardware in the Sammy is not that much better than that in the HTC and does not hold enough gains over my nexus to make me get it. And the ultimate deal breaker for me is and it may make me keep this nexus one until im forced to get rid of it and that is the trackball alerts. There is no way that I would be able to live without my trackball notifications and trackball wake. Just my 2 cents
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Has anybody had a galaxy and a nexus one? Do they run bout the same? I know galaxy Dosnt have a flash on camera. Looking for lil more pros and cons.
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My younger brother uses the SGS and when comparing the two.. I hate the feeling of the galaxy. Not too comfortable in my hand and the plastic feeling ughh (But its great with the otterbox commuter case) Comparing the two when playing some games (I don't play so I could really care less), sgs definitely runs it faster but no camera flash is terrible. I can't live without the flash, (I almost use the camera everyday! Even in the hospital!) the torch app is so useful too. Some hardware on sgs is better, but it's missing some stuff the nexus has. It's a tough decision between the two. I hope that putting the things in brackets sort of show that it really depends on how you're going to use your phone.
Since I have the nexus and the sgs isn't a major upgrade, I'm just gonna wait it out.
If I had to choose between the two, I would go for the nexus. (To be honest, I wouldn't go for either at the rate phones are coming out right now! Just hold on to your current for a bit more!)
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Now the hardware in the Sammy is not that much better than that in the HTC and does not hold enough gains over my nexus to make me get it. And the ultimate deal breaker for me is and it may make me keep this nexus one until im forced to get rid of it and that is the trackball alerts. There is no way that I would be able to live without my trackball notifications and trackball wake. Just my 2 cents
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+1 and +1! I always have my eye on the trackball for notifications. I guess I'm gonna have to get used to this soon though Reminds me if games like goldeneye back then.. damn that game. I dunno if it's just me but b/c of it, I play all fps games with the controller settings inverted! Can't get used to that, dunno how I'll get used to no ball!!
Everybody has been very helpful. Thank you very much. Now I need lil more help on different matter lol.
My girl got the Hauwei 8100 and I just rooted it but now I want to put a stable cyanmod on it. But I have no clue what to do or where to go or what to get. I know my N1 but I have no clue bout her new phone. Can I get some help or links or step by step . (A easy way to do it ha)
Having both, the galaxy s has an amazing screen, amazing! N1 feels. Better in hand. They both run just as fast once rommed.
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I keeped the N1. I just love this phone. My girl brought back the huawei phone sucked and got the blaze. She loves it. Just need to root it and rom it ha.

I dont know what ya *****in for

I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone
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I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone
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Solid yes... What it was chalked up to be .. No. dont get Mr wrong, I love it... BUT your comparing it to a nexus 1. If you had came from a sensation, like myself, you'd understand the let downs a little better. Great phone definitely... Could it have been better, absolutely.
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I'm completely happy with Bionic. Samsung has pretty screens but much lower quality materials and design if you ask me. Samsung and Toshiba are both pretty crappy but they know if you put a beautiful screen on it people will overlook all the other areas costs were cut. people should pick a phone and try to live with their choice and enjoy the new toy. The Bionic is a hell of a phone. Quite being babies indecisive with too many choices.
I'm coming from an Original Droid and while I kind of hoped I'd be able to make it until the Prime released, that didn't happen....and I LLLOOOVVVEEE this phone! Now if only they can send an update to fix the network connectivity issues I'll be all set!
I love my bionic, no qestion's asked it works perfect. Have not had any problems with it, i will not give this phone up unless the pohone that replaces the bionic is 50x times better. Way better then my DX2. I perfer the cpu/gpu in the bionic then the nvidia cpu/gpu.
The 4g lte is great very fast. pretty sad my 4g lte is faster then my cable connection.
The only thing this phone is missing is CM7 or CM8 if it comes out.
I enjoy the BLUR but im to accustomed to my nexus one custom ROMs.
I honestly never use my 4g on my bionic only for specific times whe nits needed. I keep my data off completely throughout the day and oh man does the battery ****ing kill it hahah i love this phone so much the speaker/video camera/and all around feel of the phone is superb..truly superb. Samsung might have a nice screen and GPU or w.e but moto dominates with the actual phone feel.
This is comign from the guy who was like dreaming about getting a GS2 because thats my favorite phone but the bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion beside the led
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bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion
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I would almost promise you that if you held them side by side, this wouldn't be your opinion any more. Now, I absolutely love my Bionic and it's the best phone I've used on Verizon(it's worth noting that I've owned nearly every Android smartphone to come to Verizon since the Droid 1) However, a coworker of mine imported a GSII some time ago and I've had ample opportunity to play with it. To me, it remains completely unrivaled by anything I've seen from another manufacturer to date. This is really just my 2 cents.
P.S.:When I say nearly every, I mean literally all but 3 =P I will continue this with the upcoming Rezound, as well. Nothing like having variety with my LTE.
I have tried out nearly every phone out there.
I had money just sitting here, so why not put it to good use.
When it coolness down to phones, I liked 2 the best.
GS2 and the Bionic
The GS2 screen was truley amaizing, but like sanding usually does, they increase there contrast. Pictures no longer feel... realalistic.
The GS2 was lighter. It in a way felt cheaper as well.
The main reason I chose the bionic was it's processor.
Prosesses utilize ram.
The OMAP4 is the only multiple-channel processor which makes ram access better.
Gingerbread doesn't support multiple cores or channels, but ice-cream sandwich will.
I didn't want a phone that would become old technology as soon as the next OS was released.
Not hating the GS2, but single thread benchmarks with a 1.5ghz is not that impressive when the OMAP4 is pretty close at 1ghz and working less than half as hard as the1.5ghz.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS (so, admittedly a few years of technology and freedom behind), but this is easily the best phone (smart or otherwise) that I've ever owned, and I had tried a Samsung Infuse 4G briefly a few months prior.
I'm a little apprehensive to see what the Nexus Prime is going to look like, but I just have to keep reminding myself how much joy this phone has brought me. There's always the possibility of something newer and shinier, but I'm increasingly glad that I pulled the trigger when I did. This phone is a beast
I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.
Coming off a Pantech Matrix,,,,anything is faster.
Only thing I have to complain about is...the locked bootloader
I've owned both the BB Storm and Storm 2, the HTC Imagio, Moto Droid, HTC D.Inc., Moto Droid X, Samsung Droid Charge, and the Moto Droid X2 before this. While I have to say the display on the Charge was nice, the 800x480 resolution is getting old fast. Hell, the OG Droid was the Android device that changed the smartphone "game" in the US when it was released, and it had a higher resolution screen. But the Charge's screen felt... fake and cartoonish. I wanted something in between the DX and the Charge.
The Bionic's screen isn't something to write home about, but the colors are good IMO, the high resolution is perfect, dual core and a gig of quality RAM, 4G LTE and excellent call quality. Out of all the phones I've owned, including flip phones, Motorola's have always been the best in signal and call quality, period. The worst was the D.Inc., even on EVRC-B it was still crappy. Plus the screen... while it was an AMOLED, it had an older Pentile matrix that makes the Bionic look fantastic.
Overall, I'm glad I waited and was able to get the Bionic. People have too high of an expectation when it comes to smartphones. As long as it does what you want, be happy with it. The Bionic does all of that, plus much more and this is by far the best device I've owned.
Oh... and f*ck Apple.
Mmmaannn i have high expectations for the Bionic because #1 its farking 300$ @launch. I think sgs2 was 129$?
#2: all u guys talking about ur OGdroids, I upgraded from an Omnia from 2-3 years. The only thing for me the Bionic is good for is the performance, internet speed and phone speed, and I like the screen the fact that I can clearly read in sunlight.
I'm new to Android. I only played around with it so maybe I'm not familiar with the OS. about winmo I liked was having a task bar like on your desktop where I can hold right click and actually close or minimize. And I mean actually close, when I goto open the app it loads like new. When I use task killer it tells me it killed the apps but same apps keep reapearing. And for example I would kill the browser and when I reopen the browser it opens where I left off.
Also, I played with some Samsung devices and I really like how I can change brightness, screen rotation wifi gps etc. is that like a touch wiz only thing? So apart from the OS I also need to figure the interface? Is there like a complete stock barebones gb platform I can go to? Is that just getting a nexus?
Honestly I got the phone for the specs because you can always tweak usability but you can't add ram or cpu.
Any APPS or Tweak suggestions is greatly appreciated.
Oh btw on my winmo I never had to buy apps I could dl and install cracked vers. Not that I dont want to support devs im just uuber broke (yea rite rocking a 3oo$ fone) it was a gift smarta's.
And I could load a movie on my sd card and coreplayer would play everything even HD with crz stutter bcuz phone too slow. Android I have to start converting files? Wtf? And I also had wifi tether! Wmwifitouter...
Im on the fence should I trade my phone downgrade and get some cash in my pockets or will the Bionic get better?
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Also to add on samsing phone if you hold the home button you get a list of recent apps BUT there's also a button for task manager anyway I can get this on Nothing-but-a-BLUR?
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I'm loving the bionic so far, the one thing that's really annoying me doesn't seem to be a big deal to others. I understand the increased resolution but the font is way too small. It's giving me a headache.
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I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.
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you sure hit that one on the head. i have had many phones and i like motorola phones alot. with some tweaks and stuff you can make the bionic a bad a## phone. i love the things you can do with this phone! just amazing!! zumacast is one of my favorite apps ever. despite what others say about the lapdock, i love it.

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