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Like many others, my phone has a tendency to drop 3g unless I enable Data Roaming. This has been the case with My D1 with 2.3.3.
Now that I have the Droid 3, I have the same thing. No surprise there.
HOWEVER, when I enable Data roaming on my D3 and then go into an area where the phone drops to 1x then no data, I get a notification that Data connectivity has been lost because Data Roaming is Disabled.
If I pull down the notification bar, it says I can select the bar to go to the setting. I do. Sure enough, the Data Roaming Enable box is Unchecked.
I check the box. Go to my home screen, and the notification will reappear. I can do this all day.
If I go to my home screen, ignore the notification and go to settings, battery & data manager, then data delivery, the setting is unchecked....BUT....If I access the menu this way; the setting will be retained until the phone is brought to an area where data signal does the 3g to 1x to no signal thing. Then it starts all over again.
Any suggestions? Anyone else getting this? I received my D3 over a week ago, and finally exchanged the phone for another one. That phone lagged and had random freeze issues. This phone has none of those issues, but still has the Data Roaming Enable setting not retained problem.
Wasn't this an issue with CM7 at one point? The d3 claims to be running 2.3.4, but it is hard to tell with all the Motoskin draped over it.
I have also noticed that (in my area) if I have data roaming enabled, my battery life is much improved. With it off, my battery drops like a rock.
I have contacted Moto about the issue and reported the bug; but all I am getting is the "we'll look into it" brief email. Like I'm some kind of first-time Android user who doesn't know how to use my phone.
Please tell me someone out there is having this too, or that there is a patch that Moto just hasn't released yet....
Thanks in advance everyone.
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2nd phone, all data connection is lost. No phone, 1x or 3g. Phone is awake, and battery settings are set to Performance (No Battery Savings).
Data manager is disabled (no stoppage of data)
When going into an area where I ALWAYS had "EXTENDED NETWORK" data available at 1x speeds prior to this phone, the phone says no data connection.
I look and my Data Roaming Enabled checkbox has been unchecked.
I check the box, click OK to agree that I may incur Roaming charges. The phone will reconnect to data at 1x or 3g depending on where I am.
If I look at the phone 5 minutes later, the checkbox is Unchecked again for allow data roaming. Sometimes less.
This only happens after the phone goes into a weak coverage area.
I have tried rebooting the phone. The setting stays retained after reboot, but is lost as soon as I go into poor coverage.
I have tried factory reset. Setting stays until I reach a poor coverage area.
Already exchanged for another phone. Same issue.
Changed phone from Global to CDMA mode and network to automatic. Setting still does not hold.
It is most strange though, that it doesn't happen until after my home network is lost. The setting will hold until then.
Without that setting checked, I cannot connect to my "Extended Network", which in my area is a no-cost option. I keep checking the box, only I can't get the setting to stick when I go to a weak coverage area.
The coverage area should not make changes to the retention of allowing of data roaming checkbox. Something is improperly referenced in the software.
Motorola's out-of-country sweat-shop customer-no-service department wants me to ship my 2nd brand new phone to them (5-7 days for them to process and receive it+whatever it takes to ship to them) and take between 14-21 days to "repair" the phone, and then take another 5-7 days to package, ship and return to me (all at my expense). Why am I sending a new phone that is defective "out of the box" to be repaired??
So I'm supposed to go without my phone for 5 WEEKS because they have a software problem??? It can be duplicated every time, and on more than one phone. They have the old one. Fix that and send out the update please!!
Am I the only one that has had this issue? Seriously, no one else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is frustrating as heck. I love the phone, but this is ridiculous and makes it rather un-usable depending on where I am. I NEVER had this with my D1! Moto, what happened?
Thanks everyone. +1 if you've had the issue please.
Same Problem
I also have this same problem.
After reading other forums, I thought it may just be the Droid 3 or a Motorola problem. I ended-up turning back in my Droid 3 after Motorola said it was a Verizon problem (which really is not the case). Now, after reading your thread, it makes me wonder if this is a Android OS issue.
I really hope it is not a OS issue, I have wanting an Android phone for a long time.
At my house it always kicks off the data roaming option. I really have no idea what is causing it.
Just wanted to post so that you know your not the only one!
Thank you.
I have run a logcat and have traced the problem to Motorola's battery and data manager service. It is not the OS itself, from what I can see.
It seems that under these particular conditions, the battery and data manager service crashes. Though this should not be a major problem in and of itself, though still not right and needs fixing there too. The service promptly restarts and then loads the settings that were enabled at the time of the crash from a secure data folder. (Or it's supposed to)
The problem comes into play when these settings are loaded. Enable Data Roaming is "loaded" as No(off) any time the service loads these values after a crash of the Battery and Data Manager service.
Unfortunately, as usual, Motorola is dragging their feet at releasing the source code for the Droid 3. This may or may not help the issue, as the Battery and Data Manager service that crashes is a part of Motoblur. Meaning, they aren't going to be forthcoming with the information.
They also are being a typical OEM in their refusal to believe that they could have made a mistake when programming and that they have something to fix.
My Droid 1 has run 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and 2.3.5 and this has NEVER been an issue keeping the setting retained. This is not an issue on our INC2, which is running 2.3.4 in all the same areas that cause my D3 phone to lose the setting. I am also running an Eris with 2.3.5 and it does not have the issue. This is strictly with the D3 from what I have seen.
It's funny how Moto is blaming Verizon for an issue they say doesn't exist. If there isn't a problem, how can that be the network's fault??? The network doesn't change that setting in the phone. Software changes it. In this case, poorly written software added onto the Android OS. Too bad, the OS works fine until Moto putzed with it (Blur).
The OS is not the issue here, it seems the D3 software has two problems:
1 the Battery and Data Manager service shouldn't crash like that.
2 it should return the proper settings if it does.
If I had the chance to do it all over again (knowing what I know now), I would have said send me an INC2 as a replacement. I honestly figured it was a phone hardware problem and the new phone (under warranty) would fix it.
Honestly, I am completely disappointed with this device. That may change when root is obtained and I can get rid of the poorly written trashware that seems to plague this phone. But right now I'm most disgusted with the fact that it doesn't work right and Motorola couldn't care less, even though it's their sofware that is the problem.
I have pruchased my last Motorola product, and am not holding my breath that Motorola will either care or fix their problem. I am certain the future rooted ROMs will be able to transform this lagtastic, glitch-ridden, battery pig into the elegant piece of hardware it has the potential of becoming.
Sorry Moto, sometimes the truth hurts.
Thanks for the support that it isn't only my phone or service area.
Others please +1 as you experience it. The issue is logcat documented and now confirmed on at least 4 devices.
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I have this issue as well. Now that we have root, do you have any ideas on how to resolve it?
This is the response I received from Motorola. They need to get a move on with a fix for this huge goof up.
"Thank you for reaching out to Motorola.
We apologize for all the inconvenience and appreciate your patience. The Support Engineers have been made aware of the issue with the "Data Roaming" feature of the phone; and there are currently working on a possible resolution for a future update. You will need to manually change the roaming option back until fix is available. The Support Engineers have not provided an ETA on when this will be available.
If you have any additional questions or concerns please contact Customer Care at (800) 734-5870."
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I have this issue as well. Now that we have root, do you have any ideas on how to resolve it?
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The latest developer update, which is currently in soak testing, has fixed the issue for me.
No formal release date yet on the over the air (ota) version's release date, but I would expect out in the next couple of weeks as long as everyone else had the same results I had with the test update.
Update will upgrade system version from 5.5.959 to 5.6.890, and the baseband radio will be updated at that time as well as the kernel.
So there does seem to be a fix, despite the terrible customer service at Motorola. Honestly, it sucks! I had this update last week, and I'm sure somebody knew this was intended to fix the problem. Not once has Moto asked for information or applied for releasing a phone that was not ready.
Instead, we got canned bot responses and the general feeling that Moto just doesn't care now that they have our money. It is really sad.
Lets hope Google can straighten it out.
Fingers crossed. Though now that we have root, and a custom recovery possibly by week's end; I could care less about Moto. My next phone won't be Motorola...fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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The latest developer update, which is currently in soak testing, has fixed the issue for me.
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I have also flashed to 5.6.890, re-rooted and de-bloated. So far, the new radio has done nothing to help my issues with the data roaming becoming disabled. Have you tested the new software under the same conditions as the old?
I may have to retract my last statement... my phone did auto disable the Data Roaming once after updating, but since then it has been fine. Hopefully the update truly did fix it!
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I have purposely tried to get the setting to fail. Same result for me as you saw; I got the same old warning once and have not seen it again in over a week now.
For me this was huge, as it failed 20 plus times a day at work. All I had to do was walk down one specific corridor, and by the time I got to the other end my setting would have been unchecked. So going a week with it staying retained (in global mode too by the way) is monumental proof for me it is fixed.
Now I have seen this on the D2 global twice this last week. They don't have a fix yet either, but technically this one isn't official until it's pushed ota.
Good luck all. More news as I have it.
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I can't STAND this problem! Happens to me every day at work. Heck, even if I had a widget button that I could turn on the data roaming with from my desktop would be better than having to go into settings everyday
Annoying!
Baconstrip said:
I can't STAND this problem! Happens to me every day at work. Heck, even if I had a widget button that I could turn on the data roaming with from my desktop would be better than having to go into settings everyday
Annoying!
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So... do the update. You won't regret it
blkwlf said:
So... do the update. You won't regret it
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I was thinking about it, but I was hoping to wait until it's officially released. Taking longer than I expected
Still happening in 5.6.890
I'm also suffering this very annoying problem, and have found no solution for it.
I'm using stock XT862 5.6.890 and I need to re-enable data roaming 20 times a day. I use a carrier in Spain that has very little owned towers so it's doing national roaming very often. Every time I switch from an owned tower to a roaming tower, I get the "Data roaming is disabled" notification and need to go to "Battery & data manager" -> "Data delivery" to re-enable it.
I have searched A LOT and tried all solutions I have seen, i.e. modifying build.prop in a myriad of ways, but it still happens.
I have also tried Minimoto v1.7 which has XT862 5.7.906 but it's even worse: It still happens but that ROM has stripped out Battery & data manager so I can't even enable Data roaming. A shame because the ROM is really awesome.
Please help a poor soul! :angel:
I finally took the problem in my own hands and managed to make a small app that re-enables data roaming at the touch of a button.
I needs to be installed as a system app for it to work, but it works! :laugh:
You can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165364
Hey ppl,
Need ur help urgently !!
I started using my Nexus One with OS version 2.3.6 (Stock ROM) on the SoftBank network in Japan recently.I have observed that the battery drain out is very heavy.
I lose around 8% of the battery every hour when the phone is connected to the network.
Even with WIFI,Bluetooth,DataServices,Background data as OFF, the behavior is still the same.
The battery performance is awesome when the phone is in Airplane mode(got around 8 days without using the network).
I tried using my friends DoCoMo sim on my phone and it works fine with that.(Didn't lose a single % when the phone was connected to the network for around 2 hrs !!!)
I searched a lotta forums and probably no one has faced such problems(atleast on the Nexus One).
Even after following many suggestions like:-
1>Changing the N/W type from WCDMA preffered->WCDMAonly->GSM(AUTO) PRL
2>Disabling data.
etc etc etc (can't remember wht all I've done !!)
the battery performance is still the same.
Another observation is when the SIM was used on a Nokia ExpressMusic phone, there was no problem observed with the battery performance.
I was using the Nexus One on my Indian Vodafone number for 1 year and the battery performance was awesome.
Dunno what to do now to slow down the drain(atleast if not better performance) .. lols ..
Plz help me out guys ...
Note:- This is my first post and so the posting "etiquette's" might not be proper ...
Does the same battery drain occur when you are in 2G mode? If so, you most likely need to get a new sim from your provider. I know some issues arose with T-Mobile in the states when they changed something with their HSPA network. It made the phone think it could connect to the full blown HSPA+ and would suck through the battery trying to connect to a network the phone didn't support. A new sim fixed this issue. It may be worth a shot for you.
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Does the same battery drain occur when you are in 2G mode? If so, you most likely need to get a new sim from your provider. I know some issues arose with T-Mobile in the states when they changed something with their HSPA network. It made the phone think it could connect to the full blown HSPA+ and would suck through the battery trying to connect to a network the phone didn't support. A new sim fixed this issue. It may be worth a shot for you.
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Thanks for ur reply.
But the prob is 2G networks are no more available in Japan.Softbank has upgraded all of its network to 3G. So even if I select "2G networks only", the option gets disabled automatically and it unchecks itself.
The only option looks like to ask for a new SIM from the provider.
BTW,whts ur take on rooting the phone and trying to flash it to a new RADIO f/w or anything?
Typically providers will provide new sim cards free of charge when it is trying to fix a problem. Good luck.
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BTW,whts ur take on rooting the phone and trying to flash it to a new RADIO f/w or anything?
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Haha... I am a firm believe in rooting phones and putting custom ROMs on them, but I am also a huge fan of CyanogenMod (one of the more popular custom ROMs). They add a lot more functionality and typically better performance and battery savings.
As for updating the radio, I typically recommend running the 5.08 radio (they typically will reference the two sets of numbers after the underscore "_" for the radio version).
The complete lack of 2G networks might be the answer. The phone might be constantly searching for GSM towers (try to set WCDMA only - I see you've done that, but you might want to try again).
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Typically providers will provide new sim cards free of charge when it is trying to fix a problem. Good luck.
Haha... I am a firm believe in rooting phones and putting custom ROMs on them, but I am also a huge fan of CyanogenMod (one of the more popular custom ROMs). They add a lot more functionality and typically better performance and battery savings.
As for updating the radio, I typically recommend running the 5.08 radio (they typically will reference the two sets of numbers after the underscore "_" for the radio version).
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I'm already running ***_5.08.00.04 .... So I guess there's nothing else to do !
Jack_R1 said:
The complete lack of 2G networks might be the answer. The phone might be constantly searching for GSM towers (try to set WCDMA only - I see you've done that, but you might want to try again).
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The drain looks to be consistent on all NW modes ... Currently, WCDMA only and GSM Auto PRL are working for the Softbank network .....
Most of the forums suggest switching to 2G mode only to save battery but that too is invalid for my case !!!!
Have you tried replacing the SIM card? When the issue arose on the T-Mobile network, some cards that needed to be replaced were only a few months old.
hi, i think i might have a solution. no matter what android you use, with softbank, they will all give you battery drain since softbank added a few lines in android build.prop.
i got this solution when i was on htc dhd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14325439&postcount=39
now i am on docomo sc 05d (galaxy note), rooted and unlocked (w softbank sim inside). i want to add this too in my build.prop, but for some reason, build.prop editing in galaxy note gives me softbrick @@ i had to revert back to stock. i just read somewhere that build.prop editing in galaxy note should be followed by wiping cache and dalvik cache...gonna try it again tonight.
so, if you want to try the above, please keep in mind to have a backup of your stock rom. and find out what you have to do after build.prop editing, specific for your device
some of the lines in my previous post (above link) might not be compatible with samsung causing the softbrick. i had to try one by one which line is not compatible and which line is more related to softbank battery issue.
finally....i got rid off the battery drain by adding only this two lines in my docomo sc05 d (galaxy note) build.prop
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
hope this help you too
hahuhe said:
hi, i think i might have a solution. no matter what android you use, with softbank, they will all give you battery drain since softbank added a few lines in android build.prop.
i got this solution when i was on htc dhd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14325439&postcount=39
now i am on docomo sc 05d (galaxy note), rooted and unlocked (w softbank sim inside). i want to add this too in my build.prop, but for some reason, build.prop editing in galaxy note gives me softbrick @@ i had to revert back to stock. i just read somewhere that build.prop editing in galaxy note should be followed by wiping cache and dalvik cache...gonna try it again tonight.
so, if you want to try the above, please keep in mind to have a backup of your stock rom. and find out what you have to do after build.prop editing, specific for your device
some of the lines in my previous post (above link) might not be compatible with samsung causing the softbrick. i had to try one by one which line is not compatible and which line is more related to softbank battery issue.
finally....i got rid off the battery drain by adding only this two lines in my docomo sc05 d (galaxy note) build.prop
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
hope this help you too
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Hey,
Thanx for the suggestion.
I tried adding the lines in my build.prop.
There seems to be no change in the behavior of the phone.
Last option:-
You have mentioned something abt some libhtcril.so also being changed.
Can you plz provide me the lib from the softbank stock ROM.
I never had a softbank stock ROM and hence i cannot find it !!!
Currently I'm running a CM7 version on 2.3.7 kernel with some updated radio firmware (from some korean nexus one)
Also, plz let me know if there's any other update/method to get rid of this problem.
Thanx mate !!!
Hey all I have rooted and S-off with moonshine and flashed This Rom to my Sprint Htc One. I then programmed it to work with page plus cellular, in which it was working great for about 3 days. I had gotten a text around 3:30AM & when I woke up the phone had NO signal, service, or data! Upon further examinations, I found that my settings to adjust the roaming features was GONE! The ESN checked out clear thru Sprint so I'm not worried about the phone being shut off or anything. Could this be an H-boot issue or what? I have since reinstalled the mentioned rom above but my settings are still gone. The pull down menu shows the Airplane mode to be on but it is NOT on anywhere else and I can't turn it off in the pull down menu. I hope this is my problem but I really need to know how to resolve it. I've tried to do a screenshot of the pull down menu but it grabs the home screen.
EDIT: I have resolved my issue. When I originally programmed my phone, I left the sim card from sprint in the phone and went with page plus. Evidently, with the sim in place, sprint was able to change some settings to shut off my radio. I found out thru sprint that the phone was activated on july 21st & deactivated on july 22nd. This gave them about 12 days to shut off my radio after deactivation. I went into cdmaws and found what they had changed, switched it back for a working radio again.
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Hey all I have rooted and S-off with moonshine and flashed This Rom to my Sprint Htc One. I then programmed it to work with page plus cellular, in which it was working great for about 3 days. I had gotten a text around 3:30AM & when I woke up the phone had NO signal, service, or data! Upon further examinations, I found that my settings to adjust the roaming features was GONE! The ESN checked out clear thru Sprint so I'm not worried about the phone being shut off or anything. Could this be an H-boot issue or what? I have since reinstalled the mentioned rom above but my settings are still gone. The pull down menu shows the Airplane mode to be on but it is NOT on anywhere else and I can't turn it off in the pull down menu. I hope this is my problem but I really need to know how to resolve it. I've tried to do a screenshot of the pull down menu but it grabs the home screen.
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i say reinstall the RUU to return to stock, just to check if your phones hardware are %100 fine then do all the mods agains
Muhammad.Muayad said:
i say reinstall the RUU to return to stock, just to check if your phones hardware are %100 fine then do all the mods agains
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I will give this a try and here is a screenshot.. As you see the wifi still works but the radio has been disabled.
Edit: I completed the RUU and still have NO cell radio, wifi works fine. I've only had this phone 3 days before it stopped working and NEVER dropped it or abused it. I have read posts where some folks had the antenna wire come off but I'm thinking this is just what sprint is telling people. I don't see where there would be enough room inside the ONE for the wire to just "Fall Off"!
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Well I still have an Ipod like Htc One! No luck yet on restoring the cell radio and I'm kind of lost where to go from here. I'm guessing if the antenna wire came off, there would be no settings for roaming so I'll take it apart to see if that's the problem.
Help with NV items
I have tried every ruu and even went back to the 1.44 hboot to let my phone update itself to android 4.3. When I do the factory reset, my nv settings stay just as I programmed it to page plus. What I need is for someone to send me a copy of their NV items read thru cdmaws paid version or qpst, any means you have to read Please? I don't need or want any imsi or meid or personal info, just the nv items from a working phone. I'm really beginning to think that my phone needs to be replaced but I bought it from ebay and am not a sprint customer. If anyone knows how I could go about getting this replaced thru htc Please let me know but I would like to try the nv items first. If I messed up the phone then I'll fix it but I really think I have a hardware issue, otherwise I'd never think about a warranty.
Just out of curiosity, when you flashed the software to your phone and you lost your signal and settings, did the baseband on the phone show as "Unknown"? I get that from time to time, either due to incompatible software or a bad flash.
The phone actually worked great for about 3 dats and the baseband was and still is showing. I feel that I may need to send it in for warranty but I'd like to have the original nv items to flash first to see if my cell radio will work. The wifi works fine and I can change the radio in *#*#4636#*#* to anything I wish but that still doesn't give me reception. I've been flashing phones for 3 or 4 years & have seen the baseband show up as unknown but I've never lost cell radio until now. :crying:
" I don't see where there would be enough room inside the ONE for the wire to just "Fall Off"! "
Well it actually can. Not fall off literally but rather disconnect from its socket. This has actually been an issue with the HTC OneX's wifi antenna also.. If u check out this guide: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-teardown-proves-durability-a-top-priority-28275687/ you will see the black cable that goes from top to bottom and connects two pcbs. That's your culprit if indeed you have a hardware issue. What i would do if i were you is first find one of my carrier's antennae and go as close to it as possible and see if you get any reception at all (best chance i guess is in a subway station). I guess that once you're that close to a transmitter your circuitboard is sufficient antenna though i might be wrong. If i am right and you get reception than its hardware. If you dont get reception than the cause is uncertain..can be hardware, can be software.. Anyway, i wish you best of luck with fixing your problem!
Cheers!
Wish me luck, today I'm headed to the sprint store to see if the tech can find anything out for me.
Edit: No such luck! The guy told me that when the phone was deactivated thru sprint that the radio was shut down and if I got a contract to activate the phone, then it would work! Hmm I didn't buy that so I told him I programmed it to page plus which worked for a while & bla bla bla... No go. Does anyone know how or if I could send it back to HTC for repair?
As some of you may have read, my phone is somewhat hosed.
I have a new one on the way (which might be a refurb). But I have nothing to lose playing with this one.
I highly suspect, one or more of the bands are disabled.
If you google around you see lots of folks fiddling around with Band Priorities and/or Enabling. Especially with "TirBand" phones (which this is). (Nexus 5 and HTC One, HTC One Max).
Most of the time people access this through EPST using ##4636# but my phone does not respond to this.
But the Galaxy S5 and HTC One (M8). Are in new Territory with Spark and even more bands I believe. So their might be new Menus for these phones and that info has not been leaked out yet.
Currently if I'm in a formally strong 4G area I get great 3G (no 4G at all). Yes 4G is enabled.
If I'm in Moderate to Weak 3G area. I get 1x or nothing. It really feels like a Band got shut off.
I'm not sure what caused it.
I was running Corporate PRL (56018). That seemed to not be causing any harm. Ran it for a few weeks.
Ran Barebones 1.0 (on stock firmware) and that ran fine too. After that it was down hill.
My only issue was Roaming Guard was on and Locked out. Which others have reported is a long standing issue (was a problem on M7 too).
All I needed to do was do a Full Wipe and enable it before it gets locked again. Not everyone has this locking issue, but MANY do.
I updated to OTA firmware. Not sure of status here because I had WIFI on normally.
Then I decided to run BadBoys Harman. Without firmware. Again not sure of status here as WIFI was on.
Somewhere I believe I did an Update Profile. I suspect at that point I was hosed.
It was when I put BadBoys on that I noticed an issue because he shows when you are on 1x.
Not sure if I started to see 1x that was before or after update profile.
I don't know if it's combination of having been on the corporate PRL when I did the update Profile or what.
I always try to do update Profile over mobile network.
I was not clear what the problem exactly was until I "Fully" upgraded (Harman with Harman firmware).
Just to be clear, I'm not blaming anyone but me. And there may be nothing wrong with anything out there than more or my phone. I just don't know.
I highly suspect it's something trivial that got turned off or the phone so happened to lose a band or antenna.
But I suspect it's some combination of SuperCID, Corporate PRL, new OTA Firmware or Harman Firmware along with Update Profile hosed me.
I do have new phone on the way. But I sure would like to know what happened.
I didn't do anything "out of bounds" from this forum. I simply may have done things in a different order or something.
I am S-OFF and running TWRP 2.7.0.2
I have reactivated, wiped the gazoo out of it. Ran Harmon RUU. etc.
I sure wish there was an RUU for the Shipped Config. Or even for the OTA version.
Seems a coincidence the phone "Broke" just when I started Flashing Firmware and Updating Profile.
I know I was good on Stock Rooted, S-OFF, Corporate PRL. Because I'd even see 4G at my house occasionally which is a reach. Now I'm lucky to get 1x at my house.
I will tell you this, I'm staying on Stock Firmware and Stock PRL when the new phone arrives until more is learned.
I will try to compare phones as best I can.
Which is another reason I sure would like to see the Band configuration on this phone so I can compare it to the new phone.
Thanks for any tips.
I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.
I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.
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I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.
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Thanks when I saw people posting *#*#4636#*#* I stupidly assumed they were trying to get past some HTML issue with ##. *#*#4636#*#* works !!
Turns out when you use the Google Play app called "Advanced Signal Status" when you click "Advanced" it brings up the same Menu as *#*#4636#*#*.
I didn't realize it was bringing up something built into the phone.
Any way,
It looks like on HTC Max it was *#*#3282#*#* which does not exist on HTC One (M8). You have to use ##3282# but that does not offer the same Band settings that HTC Max has with *#*#3282#*#*.
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metalfan78 said:
I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.
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When and how often have you:
Updated Profile?
Changed Firmware?
Changed from factory PRL?
I think my problems may have started after I flashed Captains Firmware for OTA (which I got the link from you ROM thread).
I'm not saying it was, but it was around that time. It may have been something to do with PRL's but those are usually harmless and very revertible.
I'm 99% sure I was ok on your ROM with Stock Firmware. Except for Roaming Guard on and locked out. Not sure if that is an early symptom of problems though.
Some things in firmware (on past phones) are not revertible (ever !!!)
Your symptoms sound a lot like mine. I only get good 3G in locations where I used to get good 4G. And I get no 4G at all now.
My phone generally works but many calls go to voice mail or get dropped. Or end up being one way (one of us can't hear the other).
I think it's one of these:
Band issue (disabled or low priority)
Some sort of ID issue that got lost (like a lost security Key)
Some of Power Saver issue (i.e. Extreme Power Save kicking in when it shouldn't)
The reason I mention power is it does this.
WIFI On
Running "Advanced Signal Status"
All looks ok.
Shut off WIFI and things go nuts.
EVDO (data) RSSI Signal: drops to -120db (0%)
Then network type switches to 1xRTT from eHRPD.
It's like the extreme power saver is on. Which, guess what, OTA firmware was supposed to enable !!!
I have tried disabling it in settings. But I think something is haywire.
This is what extreme power save does. And came with the OTA update.
QUOTE: Basically it shuts down all connections but still allows phone calls and texts to come through. You can manually refresh e-mail if you want — but only in HTC's e-mail app. Your smartphone essentially is turned into a dumb phone. And to make sure you don't cheat and try to actually make it do things, the M8 gets a new home EXTREME home screen, with shortcuts to the Phone, Messages, Mail, Calendar and Calculator apps. To exit EXTREME mode, you'll need to hit the dedicated "Exit" button.
HTC says that with only 5 percent battery remaining, you can eke out 15 hours in this EXTREME mode. On a full battery? It'll last something like a dozen days. We'd consider this to be more of an emergency mode than EXTREME, however. END QUOTE
It sure feels like this is what my phone is doing. I think it's stuck on Extreme Power Save mode (in the RADIO only).
I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.
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I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.
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I highly suspect it's not PRL. When you say "update prl" I assume you mean from settings -> system update menu.
I suspect firmware. Of which there is nothing available to go back to.
Can you get 4G?
I rarely get 4g, it hasn't been fully implemented where I am. I got it on my gs3 only sometimes. And yea, updated prl through settings
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I'm definitely going to a Sprint store. I was just on Sprint chat and they confirmed it is not network related but a defective device. Dammit.
This is what extreme power save.came with the OTA update.
HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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Ahh, thanks for the info. I think that's what is messed up on my phone some how. Some Key or ID so it knows the appropriate ones to pick.
I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.
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I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.
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That's interesting you lost Data / Roam and managed to got it back. Perhaps if I had put the dialer on like you did at that first problem I would have got it back too.
So you are running H/K firmware as well?
I've made it as close to stock as I could including recovery. Went to 4G area (where I can get 3G). Factory Reset (from boot loader), Redid Activation, Updated Profile/PRL etc. All worked (albeit slowly).
But still no 4G and no 3G when in normally 3G only areas.
Then I tried running H/K RUU back to back twice. Still stuck.
I may try RUU one more time, then try reactivate/profile/prl again in the 4G area.
Is there any need to change hboot? I have left what the H/K RUU put on there sometimes and other times used the one posted here that removes the red unlocked text etc.
The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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Maybe I need a round of Viper to fix it
Hey, thanks for clicking my post. TL;DR Since updating from ARHD 40.3 to Viper One 6.2.0, my radio has been having major intermittent issues. I have a HTC One m7_ul unlocked outright from Optus here in Australia. It is as of right now running the latest firmware linked to by the Viper One/ARHD threads, the latest TWRP, is S-OFF and superCID, running Viper One 6.2.0.
Symptoms:
1) No signal most of the time.
2) Signal appears to return during periods of movement (e.g. driving).
3) Even at full signal, there is no mobile connection (no data, no text/calling).
4) Once every few hours, when it has signal, it will gain mobile connection for a short period of time, after which it will cut out again - repeat to 1).
Here's a short story about how this came to be:
For many many months now it has been running just fine on stock firmware, rooted with S-ON running ARHD 40.3 (since that version came out).
About a fortnight ago I started noticing issues with my contacts application. Something to do with 501 contact link suggestions and certain contacts having hundreds of Facebook profile entries. This would cause issues in the People app (people just wouldn't load) and the SMS app (message histories wouldn't load, including new texts).
After some troubleshooting attempts, I resolved to reinstall a ROM. I opted to install the latest Viper One (6.2.0) successfully. It resolved my issues. However, it introduced a new one. The next morning I woke up to 4 texts from my service provider informing me I'd missed calls. I had no notifications as such, so the calls never reached my phone. I put it down to tower signal flex in my area. I left and as I walked out the door I noticed I had no signal (no bars, x above the icon in statusbar). Driving around seemed to fix the issue though, it got back up to normal values quickly enough.
However, even though I had plenty of signal and mobile data was ostensibly turned on, I couldn't get internet. I tried sending a text to myself but it failed send. Calls out simply waited on signal and then timed out. Every single other function of the device is 100% AOK (wifi, bluetooth, nfc, etc). The entire ROM is fully functional, can't find any other issues with stability or otherwise.
I put up with it for the day and get home and start troubleshooting. Here's what I tried so far, in order:
1) Change from Viper One to latest ARHD (71.1). Installed with no issues. Booted phone, no dice - no signal.
2) Checked SIM by moving to old iPhone 4 - full signal, radios work. It's not a service issue.
3) Revert to last known working ROM - ARHD (40.3). Installed with no issues. Booted phone, no dice - no signal.
4) Research research research. Think it might be a problem with firmware perhaps. Tried revone, failed because I'm not on 4.2.
5) Flash MaximusHD (11.0.0) in order to make use of revone for S-OFF/superCID. Flashed latest firmware linked in Viper One/ARHD threads.
6) Reboot phone. Still no dice with latest firmware on MaximusHD (11.0.0).
7) Retry with latest ARHD. No dice.
8) Retry with latest Viper One. No dice.
In every single instance, all the ROMs are fully functional except for mobile signal - wifi, bluetooth, nfc, etc. radios function perfectly. No issues with ADB or fastboot during any step of these processes. All my device info shows what I expect to see. I've searched as much as I can, to no avail. I turn to first-time posting here as a last resort to maybe find out what the issue is.
I am slowly reaching the thought that the hardware itself might be the issue. I'd appreciate any insight into what could be causing this - be it software or hardware - as well as if there is any way to test or diagnose the radio physically. Even just a confirmation ("Yep, sounds like your radio's FUBAR"). In the meantime, I'll be using aforementioned iPhone 4 (ugh).
Thanks for reading.
Have you attempted to flash a different radio baseband?
Look up the radio version used in ARHD 41. If you find it, search for the radio within the forums and flash it. You can still keep the most current version of your preferred ROM. Search the threads for how to flash a radio baseband, there are plenty of them.
digitalism said:
Have you attempted to flash a different radio baseband?
Look up the radio version used in ARHD 41. If you find it, search for the radio within the forums and flash it. You can still keep the most current version of your preferred ROM. Search the threads for how to flash a radio baseband, there are plenty of them.
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I found a forum for HTC One radios here, it's in the AT&T section but apparently work on all HTC Ones. I was unable to find out which radio ARHD 41 used, my understanding is that custom ROMs don't usually come with a radio baseband of their own and they don't appear to list any on their thread that I could see. I would inquire but I think there's an issue with new users posting in development sections. Do you think it's worth trying to look further into what radio was used, or should I start flashing radios from the aforementioned list? There's a couple that stand out as possible candidates (the earliest version, the newest version, etc) but I'm not sure I want to just start going crazy on that list until something works. Or do I?
edit: To clarify, and they say explicitly in the ARHD post FAQ, they do not include radio/hboot/firmware in their ROM. So I must assume that I was simply on the stock radio the device shipped with.
edit 2: Confirmed my current baseband matches one of the ones indicated as installed from firmware package. I'm not sure what it was before I updated to Viper One or even while I was using Viper One.
Flashed the earliest radio baseband available from the aforementioned thread. Put the SIM back in, signal achieved, able to send texts/make calls/USSD codes. I was unable to get it to transfer mobile data, however.
Can't believe I didn't think about radio baseband. Didn't even know that was a thing. I just thought it was part of the firmware package. There you go I guess. Thanks again for the tip.
Whitestrake said:
Thanks again for the tip.
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No problem, just remember that if you're having issues with certain partitions on the device, each partition is technically flashable if you are S-Off and SuperCID.
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No problem, just remember that if you're having issues with certain partitions on the device, each partition is technically flashable if you are S-Off and SuperCID.
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I've tried just about every radio in that forum. They all seemed to have the same issue for me - at first it seems to have no signal, then it gets normal signal, receives/sends any buffered texts, and then fails to work after that for any purpose regardless of signal. I think I'm back at square one; I don't suppose there are any other simple things to try?
Whitestrake said:
I've tried just about every radio in that forum. They all seemed to have the same issue for me - at first it seems to have no signal, then it gets normal signal, receives/sends any buffered texts, and then fails to work after that for any purpose regardless of signal. I think I'm back at square one; I don't suppose there are any other simple things to try?
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If you are having issues still, the other alternative is to flash a different firmware version than what the ROM provides. Firmware and radios tend to "talk" to each other in certain ways, so maybe your firmware isn't using your radio the way you need it to. Also, make sure you are installing firmware particular to your device. For instance, do not install firmware originally meant for an AT&T phone if you use Verizon or another carrier. They tend to write the code particular to these things. I would do some research through the forums and see if you can find a good combination in your area that people have tried. Maybe even a Google search will help out if the forums seem daunting to dig through.
And don't forget, the iPhone has a Quad-Band receiver that's capable of receiving cellular signals much clearer. The HTC One, in my opinion, does not match hardware compared to the iPhone. The iPhone will always technically be superior, no matter what opinions people hold to both.
First, thanks again for your patience and assistance.
digitalism said:
Also, make sure you are installing firmware particular to your device. For instance, do not install firmware originally meant for an AT&T phone if you use Verizon or another carrier.
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I was not aware of this restriction. I suspect I may have flashed firmware for a different region. I isolated the Optus firmware RUU numbers and got a firmware package matching, and the android-info.txt matches the device original CID and modelnum. I'll try it soon.
I'm still having trouble understanding, though, how it could have failed in the first place. My phone was S-ON when the radio stopped working; surely changes to firmware/radio couldn't have occurred anyway? None of the ROMs I've touched have firmware or radio included as far as I could tell.
Flashed the firmware appropriate to my region (4.20.980.1). Came with radio. Rebooted, put in SIM, no signal for 5 minutes. When I get signal, texts don't send and calling times out, USSD codes give connection problem errors. Same as before. How likely is it the actual hardware could be damaged? I did drop it on concrete, on the front of the device at the top, around the time this started happening - very shortly before I flashed Viper One to fix the contacts issue. There was no visible damage.
Whitestrake said:
Flashed the firmware appropriate to my region (4.20.980.1). Came with radio. Rebooted, put in SIM, no signal for 5 minutes. When I get signal, texts don't send and calling times out, USSD codes give connection problem errors. Same as before. How likely is it the actual hardware could be damaged? I did drop it on concrete, on the front of the device at the top, around the time this started happening - very shortly before I flashed Viper One to fix the contacts issue. There was no visible damage.
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Quick question:
Are you installing your firmware and software without the SIM card in? If so, I would leave the SIM card in and have all the software installed during the process. Damage to the phone should not cause problems for connecting to the cellular network. Have you tried leaving the house, going outside, or getting into a different area to try your signal? Maybe your house is a deadzone and the phone is having a hard time picking it up. My room gets like this since I live in Florida where houses are built with cinder blocks to prevent hurricane damage. It really messes with my signal.
digitalism said:
Quick question:
Are you installing your firmware and software without the SIM card in? If so, I would leave the SIM card in and have all the software installed during the process. Damage to the phone should not cause problems for connecting to the cellular network. Have you tried leaving the house, going outside, or getting into a different area to try your signal? Maybe your house is a deadzone and the phone is having a hard time picking it up. My room gets like this since I live in Florida where houses are built with cinder blocks to prevent hurricane damage. It really messes with my signal.
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Good ideas, but unfortunately not - every firmware and radio package I've flashed, I've done once with the SIM, once without, thinking along a similar line.
I'm in a known good cell location - coverage in my area is fantastic with my provider (Telstra, usually get 5 bar signal on 3G - I do not get LTE on my plan). I test in multiple places - next to my PC, outside the house, down the street, etc. The behaviour I've noticed is that I have no signal regardless of where I go, for about 5 minutes after booting the phone, after which it gets signal, sends/receives any buffered texts, and then fails to communicate successfully after that (i.e., I get the test text I sent myself, then I resend another test, and it fails to send). The iPhone 4 I've been moving my SIM to has been receiving full signal (as expected) at every place I've been testing the HTC One.
Hmm...
You might have to go into your APN settings to change some things in order to get it to work properly. Go to your Settings, then Mobile Data, then Access Point Names. From this menu click the current APN saved with the phone. After that, it will have you insert some information. Check this website for the specific APN information for your carrier. Make sure it's for your carrier as there is a large list of different ones on there.
http://ausdroid.net/apns/
Other than that, I honestly couldn't tell you what your issue is.
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Other than that, I honestly couldn't tell you what your issue is.
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Tried the APN thing. There was indeed a few things different from the listed settings, but honestly, they were pre-populated with a bunch of Telstra data beforehand when the SIM was in. I made the changes and noticed no difference.
Thanks again for your help. As a last step I will return it fully to stock. After that I suspect my only recourse would be taking it back to Optus and asking if they'll quote me to fix it.
Unfortunately it does seem to be hardware issue from the history of what you have tried and posted.
Use nkk71's guide listed in my signature to go back to stock for warranty but substitute your local RUU/nandroid/etc.
SaHiLzZ said:
Unfortunately it does seem to be hardware issue from the history of what you have tried and posted.
Use nkk71's guide listed in my signature to go back to stock for warranty but substitute your local RUU/nandroid/etc.
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Thanks for the link, that's actually one HTC One return-to-stock guide I haven't seen yet and it looks very concise. Cheers.
Whitestrake said:
Tried the APN thing. There was indeed a few things different from the listed settings, but honestly, they were pre-populated with a bunch of Telstra data beforehand when the SIM was in. I made the changes and noticed no difference.
Thanks again for your help. As a last step I will return it fully to stock. After that I suspect my only recourse would be taking it back to Optus and asking if they'll quote me to fix it.
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Sorry about that, I know having a custom ROM is a lot of fun, but there can definitely be some cons along with it.
Good luck with your phone!