[Q] Nexus One Dev Phone - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My first question would be: What is the return policy for dev phones? What if I buy the N1 Dev Phone and find out that something on it doesn't work? Is there a refund policy in place for dev devices? I'm having trouble finding this info on the dev splash page.
My follow-up would be: is there anyone who has purchased the N1 since it has been released as a dev phone? Are there any differences between the dev and retail devices? Does it still ship in the same packaging with the same accessories?
Thank you.

I would love answers to these questions as well.
Just broke the glass on mine, and cant think of any other phone I'd want instead...

I would think they have the same warranty through HTC.

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Simple sim unlock question.

Hey everyone,
I've been searching on here and somehow I'm not finding ANY helpful info on how to unlock a G1 to work on AT&T. I want to buy one of craigslist and it seems most people aren't able to get customer service to unlock it for me.
Is there any way to unlock it, even if i need to flash the ADP1 firmware or something?
I really thought there would be a sticky for this, but so far all I've found is paid services.
I can borrow a friend's T-Mobile sim if i need one temporarily to access anything for the unlocking.
Thanks!
-Taylor
P.S. I'm hoping to buy one today, so the sooner someone answers my question the sooner i can get in on this new android love!
I believe as of now you have only one choice - buy unlock code on eBay or some other online shops.
get the phone and have a friend that has t-mo say that they are going out of the country and they need the unlock code for their phone. t-mo will ask for the IMEI and you give them that and they will email you an unlock code. but i am pretty sure that you will be stuck with edge network on at&t. not that i have any choice as t-mo STILL doesn't have 3G in stl
Hey, thanks for the help. I only have one friend with Tmobile and she probably could have helped me, but i was hoping there was a more guaranteed way, in case that didn't work. So flashing the ADP1 firmware and bootloader doesn't do it? I assume that the right people have looked at this and all that?
Well it would be cool if we could crack that, but lucky for me i finally found someone with an unlocked g1 at a great price - $250 for a barely used one with accessories and box, still with the original plastic on the screen, it's basically brand new! I was going to buy one that had been used for a few months, just had a charger, and was locked for the same price! I actually thought it might have been stolen till i met the kid, he was driving a brand new car and only looked to be about 18, so basically he was just rich and didn't care too much if he got the most he could get, heh.
So yeah, I have a G1 now and it's unlocked and works great. I of course don't get 3G on ATT but i had an old iphone before that didn't have 3G, so i'm at least not worse of. And somehow the G1 downloads pages much faster than the 2G iphone, interestingly enough, so I'm pretty happy.
Thanks for your help guys. is there a way we could maybe sticky this or something, maybe make a new post that is the official sim unlock thread and sticky that? I never found a place that specifically said you couldn't unlock it, except for a few posts from before the phone was even out with people speculating, so it was pretty tough for me to find out. Sure, i didn't find anything that said you COULD unlock it easily, but i didn't find a lot the other way either and i wasn't sure if I was just missing something.
Thanks,
-Taylor
I used this one to unlock my g1
http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/
within 20 min, I received my unlock codes. And it really worked
as t-mobile asked me 125 Euros for unlocking (the Netherlands)

Why AT&T users should boycott this device

1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
SysAdmNj said:
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.
I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
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Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
CEaton said:
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
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attn1 said:
Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
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I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
attn1 said:
1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.
2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.
4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.
Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?
Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.
Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
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What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
I will join you in this boycott.
I currently have an unlocked i9100 I'm using, and I was SERIOUSLY considering picking up one of these because a) I want to get on an unlimited LTE plan asap as I assume ATT being the douche-nozzles they are will surely take it away soon and b) for use as an LTE modem essentially since I have such a hard time getting data service in downtown chicago. Not anymore! (unfortunately, I also can't justify buying the skyrocket when I already have the gsII, would have been fun to have something different to play with)
I agree, this bootloader locking is BS. Samsung has phones on every carrier, none of them with locked bootloaders. Even my mom's Charge on Verizon (gag) is unlocked.
Well crap! This isn't what I'd like to have seen from you attn1, but at the same time, I'm sure you're tired of holding ppl's hand to try and root/s-off their phones w/your tool.
Le sigh, I was lookin forward to this and hopefully using another fine piece of attn1 software.
rquinn19 said:
What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?
edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
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No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
SysAdmNj said:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I would not use LTE until it is more fully deployed anyway.
SysAdmNj said:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
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I'm not sure what connection issues you are referring to. This is the first I've heard anyone mention that.
I live in an LTE area but work in an HSPA area. No connection issues anywhere, regardless of LTE or not.
I have the SkyRocket though.
attn1 said:
No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.
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I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
rquinn19 said:
I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.
HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site
This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
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No, carriers do NOT have to agree, as evidenced by current offerings from Samsung, LG and Sony. HTC is using carriers as a excuse to do what they want anyway. Their competition is not. Regardless of who's issue it is, not buying such a device is the best course of action, and if sales are down significantly, will drive change. Even if it doesn't, anyone lurking around on XDA developers would be infinitely better off with a more open device.
I agree somewhat with you, however things to keep in mind.
1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
2. Have you contacted HTC as of yet? I have and they said Bootloader shouldn't be locked and if it is ALL devices get an unlock code. I tried to Unlock, and given the device launched on Sunday I am not surprised.
3. HTC is not the only one locking bootloaders, Motorola is FAR WORSE.
Personally I like the phone. I do place custom roms on my devices. As a previous owner of the Droid X and Atrix, I have experienced locked bootloaders.
This phone for me is better than the SGS2. Quirks of the SGS2 Rom with Touch Wiz and not a fully functioning CM yet it wasn't good.
I'l just start off by saying I am not a developer and don't know much about bootloaders and such.. going from a Captivate to the Vivid, I already see a difference in support of development. Is it really this bad?
I'm loving the Vivid as it is, and I HATE stock ROMs, all of them. I just hope that things may change for current Vivid owners.. after all, it's only been two days.
I'm really disappointed with what I'm reading. The Vivid is my first Android device that I've purchased on AT&T, and so far it seems like a great phone. But if devs are saying the device should be boycotted, that doesn't seem like a good sign for future development support.
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
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I had a Vibrant, and when I switched to AT&T, the Infuse was the only good phone on AT&T (I mainly did not want to give up SAMOLED).
I do not want to get another samsung phone, but if I have to get the skyrocket because of HTC's lies, I will.
Sent from my phone. :3
trell959 said:
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .
Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
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Yeah. I mean so what if they may have been hypocritical in promising things they have yet to follow up on. At least give it some time. Something is better than nothing.
Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
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1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?
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Not true - it may or may not void the warranty, depending on the nature of the problem. That gray area is what HTC fears will cost money. I didn't say AT&T would care about warranty. I said HTC would.
malickie said:
Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
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Recent phones from LG like the Thrill and the 2GS have been unlockable.
All the recent Samsungs are easily unlockable.
HTC already has an unlock for this device - (on Rogers) and excluded AT&T - one of their largest markets.

[Q] Anyone using (US) Dev Edition or (US) 32 GB Unlocked outside the US?

Hey there,
I want to understand the process of claiming the warranty of a US HTC One outside of the US. Perhaps, someone has done it? I'm from India and will be going to Canada soon. I faintly remember something about paying $15 and being able to claim the warranty. The camera issue is forcing me to consider this as the only option!
For what it's worth, I called up the HTC people in India and they're saying that they won't honour the warranty; but I think if I can get an email from HTC USA asking them to honour my claim they'll cave.
Any suggestions?
raghav2511 said:
Hey there,
I want to understand the process of claiming the warranty of a US HTC One outside of the US. Perhaps, someone has done it? I'm from India and will be going to Canada soon. I faintly remember something about paying $15 and being able to claim the warranty. The camera issue is forcing me to consider this as the only option!
For what it's worth, I called up the HTC people in India and they're saying that they won't honour the warranty; but I think if I can get an email from HTC USA asking them to honour my claim they'll cave.
Any suggestions?
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Hello,
From what I understand, buying any sort of device from another country will generally mean you will not have a warranty unless the product provides an international warranty, otherwise, i believe that international laws may prevent you from using a warranty from your current country.
For what it is worth you could contact the HTC people in the USA and attempt to see what they say. I guess it would be fair for them to replace it for you, but I'm not completely sure about the international laws relating to the subject.
Overall, just try to contact the HTC people in the USA and see what they say. Chances are, their say will be final.
Good Luck
Youssef26500 said:
Hello,
From what I understand, buying any sort of device from another country will generally mean you will not have a warranty unless the product provides an international warranty, otherwise, i believe that international laws may prevent you from using a warranty from your current country.
For what it is worth you could contact the HTC people in the USA and attempt to see what they say. I guess it would be fair for them to replace it for you, but I'm not completely sure about the international laws relating to the subject.
Overall, just try to contact the HTC people in the USA and see what they say. Chances are, their say will be final.
Good Luck
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Thanks for your reply! That's what I did. I'm waiting to hear back from them. Let's hope they agree!

[Q] Success With 3rd Party Warranty? *UPDATE*

Hi all,
I've been looking through previous posts on XDA regarding the same topic, but I didn't seem to find anything helpful. I'm just curious if people have had any success registering their Moto X, specifically the developer edition, with some third party warranty provider. I finally saved enough money to order one and plan on doing so today, my only concern is getting a warranty that will actually replace a developer edition with a developer edition model instead of wasting $650 for almost nothing. I know it sounds stupid, but I wouldn't put it past a warranty provider to replace a dev edition with a regular model similar to one you get pick up at a Verizon store. Any insight is welcomed and thank you in advance!
Looks like I got an answer to my own question!

Question Downgrade Firmware

I just got the phone from wonda, and didnt think to ask for it cealed. but I want to unlock the bootloader. As the phone has been updated, I can't unlock the bootloader and I don't know how to downgrade it, the downgrader tool says no packages yet, and trying to local update to an older firmware says it cant because its older, anyone have any other way of doing this?
Congrats on getting you X Fold.
Not an answer to your question unfortunately, but have a question on your experience with Wonda,
How long from when you ordered till when you received it and approximate location it was shipped to.
I heard that Wonda was quick getting it here and wanted a confirmation of that. I heard that Gizmo, another option to order from takes about 20 days to get to me in Toronto, Canada.
Appreciate your feedback on this.
Also curious why you want bootloader access on your Vivo... any specific plans (maybe something I should also be considering, if I get this phone)?
Q-Prof said:
Congrats on getting you X Fold.
Not an answer to your question unfortunately, but have a question on your experience with Wonda,
How long from when you ordered till when you received it and approximate location it was shipped to.
I heard that Wonda was quick getting it here and wanted a confirmation of that. I heard that Gizmo, another option to order from takes about 20 days to get to me in Toronto, Canada.
Appreciate your feedback on this.
Also curious why you want bootloader access on your Vivo... any specific plans (maybe something I should also be considering, if I get this phone)?
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Yeah, im in the uk in it took 3 days from ordering to get here. im considering returning tho and ordering a sealed x fold so i can have a chance to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: the reason i want to unnlock the bootloader is because i cannot live without root lmao
Yeah, I have heard by default they are known to open the box and update the software for the customer but you can send them a note when you purchase to leave it in the sealed box. If you do, then you have to deal with a translator to get it going yourself in Chinese until you can get to the language settings, but of course if that means you can get access to the bootloader then I guess it it worth it for you. Its a shame the downgrader tool is not working for you.
Thanks for letting me know how your shipping went, being in Canada, I have heard that Wanda is quick, and three days is amazingly quick to the UK.
Good luck on whatever you decide, from what I have seen in reviews, looks to be an excellent phone that you will enjoy.
I am really interested in it also, but recently found out the VoLTE 4G (voice over LTE) is not working on the phone in Canada from one of the members who is also in Canada with the Vivo X Fold, so I am pausing on this and looking for a solution, if there is one.

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