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Should I return my Diamond

Hi,
Just a quick one and looking for opinions.
Yesterday I managed to pickup a diamond from a shop. I was told it was direct purchase i.e. not sim locked to any provider. So I paid going retail price at 750 canadian for it. Get it home to discover the $#$#$ thing is linked to airtel and sim locked. I managed to get the network unlock code and it can now use my own sim card.
If I hard spl it I figure there should be no difference at this point between mine and the HTC released version.
Does anyone see any other reasons I should return this for a proper version that I requested.
Would you let it go and continue as above or return to the shop and rip the $#$#$ a new one.
I have to return home in a few days and need to make up my mind.
Thanks!

Well.. depends if you're a principals kind of guy. However, if unlocking it was a breeze and didn't cost u any real agony, why get yourself all worked up over it... Maybe you should send an e-mail to their headquarters if it's a big storechain...

Yes, I know what you mean. Perhaps what I meant to directly ask others if they see any technical reason this phone would now be any different then a standard unlocked version direct from HTC. I used a network unlock code from a specific website to do this.
If anyone sees a reason to be worked up ... i.e. the minute I flash a new ROM onto this it may not work because some providers ID is in there, then yes I will go back. But, if network unlocking provides the same benefit as just having a direct unlocked model then I dont really care and will just give him my email feedback.
thanks

Seeing as you paid Canadian dollars for it, I assume you are in Canada? If so, you might want to return it or at least keep the option open for the next week or so. It's looking like the official Canadian release version from Telus is going to have an extended battery and possibly more RAM. The word floating around is that it will be available first week or so of August.

Simple sim unlock question.

Hey everyone,
I've been searching on here and somehow I'm not finding ANY helpful info on how to unlock a G1 to work on AT&T. I want to buy one of craigslist and it seems most people aren't able to get customer service to unlock it for me.
Is there any way to unlock it, even if i need to flash the ADP1 firmware or something?
I really thought there would be a sticky for this, but so far all I've found is paid services.
I can borrow a friend's T-Mobile sim if i need one temporarily to access anything for the unlocking.
Thanks!
-Taylor
P.S. I'm hoping to buy one today, so the sooner someone answers my question the sooner i can get in on this new android love!

I believe as of now you have only one choice - buy unlock code on eBay or some other online shops.

get the phone and have a friend that has t-mo say that they are going out of the country and they need the unlock code for their phone. t-mo will ask for the IMEI and you give them that and they will email you an unlock code. but i am pretty sure that you will be stuck with edge network on at&t. not that i have any choice as t-mo STILL doesn't have 3G in stl

Hey, thanks for the help. I only have one friend with Tmobile and she probably could have helped me, but i was hoping there was a more guaranteed way, in case that didn't work. So flashing the ADP1 firmware and bootloader doesn't do it? I assume that the right people have looked at this and all that?
Well it would be cool if we could crack that, but lucky for me i finally found someone with an unlocked g1 at a great price - $250 for a barely used one with accessories and box, still with the original plastic on the screen, it's basically brand new! I was going to buy one that had been used for a few months, just had a charger, and was locked for the same price! I actually thought it might have been stolen till i met the kid, he was driving a brand new car and only looked to be about 18, so basically he was just rich and didn't care too much if he got the most he could get, heh.
So yeah, I have a G1 now and it's unlocked and works great. I of course don't get 3G on ATT but i had an old iphone before that didn't have 3G, so i'm at least not worse of. And somehow the G1 downloads pages much faster than the 2G iphone, interestingly enough, so I'm pretty happy.
Thanks for your help guys. is there a way we could maybe sticky this or something, maybe make a new post that is the official sim unlock thread and sticky that? I never found a place that specifically said you couldn't unlock it, except for a few posts from before the phone was even out with people speculating, so it was pretty tough for me to find out. Sure, i didn't find anything that said you COULD unlock it easily, but i didn't find a lot the other way either and i wasn't sure if I was just missing something.
Thanks,
-Taylor

I used this one to unlock my g1
http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/
within 20 min, I received my unlock codes. And it really worked
as t-mobile asked me 125 Euros for unlocking (the Netherlands)

The UN-unlockable HD7

So maybe I'm the only one in the world with an HD7 that can't be unlocked.
I bought one on Kijiji new in the box. I'm in Toronto and planned to use it on Wind Mobile. I read of others enjoying their unlocked T-Mobile HD7's. So I bought mine today, sold my old phone the same day and found out that my phone cannot be unlocked.
I have tried 4 different websites for unlocking and all failed. I called HTC and they said to speak to the carrier. The carrier said to get a plan with them and in 40 days I can have the code. Doesn't make much sense being that I don't live in the U.S. or within hours of their service areas.
Finally the sales person says to fax them a receipt and they can provide the code in 24 hours or 2 weeks if they don't have it in their database and have to retrieve it from HTC. I doubt I can get a receipt from the seller and I feel like I just spent $500 on a paper weight.
Anyone have any suggestions??
EDIT: mobileincanada.com surprisingly sent me an email last night saying they updated their database and if I re-ordered they could probably have the code for me in a few min. So I took another shot and they actually had one. I guess it could an updated database to solve the problem!!

pistol44 said:
So maybe I'm the only one in the world with an HD7 that can't be unlocked.
I bought one on Kijiji new in the box. I'm in Toronto and planned to use it on Wind Mobile. I read of others enjoying their unlocked T-Mobile HD7's. So I bought mine today, sold my old phone the same day and found out that my phone cannot be unlocked.
I have tried 4 different websites for unlocking and all failed. I called HTC and they said to speak to the carrier. The carrier said to get a plan with them and in 40 days I can have the code. Doesn't make much sense being that I don't live in the U.S. or within hours of their service areas.
Finally the sales person says to fax them a receipt and they can provide the code in 24 hours or 2 weeks if they don't have it in their database and have to retrieve it from HTC. I doubt I can get a receipt from the seller and I feel like I just spent $500 on a paper weight.
Anyone have any suggestions??
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Sorry:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-discusses-homebrew-app-support-for-windows-phone-7

you need to get someone that have t-mobile account to do it for you

Hey go on tmobile's website and go to the online chat help section and talk to someone there and just be kind and tell them the truth. I found that they are really helpful. Just tell the person u bought it from a tmobile store (dont say kiji) and that ur in canada and are not a tmobile customer. They'll understand. Im in canada and was thinking of doin what u did and buying one and then unlocking it so to be safe i talked to a tmobile rep b4 buying anythin and she was really understanding and told me she would unlock it for me after i purchased it( not sure if they wouldve kept their word since i havent bought mine yet)...

as long as you bought it at full retail, they should give you the unlock code. The 40 days only applies if you got it at a discount as a new line of service.

I was in the same situation, tried over 10 websites and none of them had the unlock code in their database. Luckly I was able to get the receipt from the seller and got T-Mobile to unlock the phone. Took T-Mobile less than 24 hrs to send me the code. Like the other poster said, try the T-Mobile online chat, they are very helpful.

Thats crazy.. was planning on picking up an HD7 to use on Wind soon in Toronto. Would be brutal if it can't be unlocked.
Did any of you guys who had problems try mobileincanada.com for the unlock code?

profets said:
Thats crazy.. was planning on picking up an HD7 to use on Wind soon in Toronto. Would be brutal if it can't be unlocked.
Did any of you guys who had problems try mobileincanada.com for the unlock code?
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Yup tried mobileincanada.com, didn't work and got a refund.
Most of the sites claimed they should be able to unlock the phone in a few weeks when their databases are updated.
edit: What you could also do is bring a laptop with you when you buy the phone and check if the phone is unlockable here http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php

^man that really sucks.. you had tried 10 different sites? Also thanks for the tip on htcimeiunlock site.
So T-mobile was pretty helpful about the situation as long as you had the original receipt? good to know.. worse case i'll just go for a quick drive and pick one up.

I tried all the sites you all listed here and NONE of them worked. I even found some other site called UNLOCKINGONLINE.COM. They say claim to have access to some newer databases and recommend using a certain unlock option if you're phone is an HTC device manufactured after March or May 2010 I think it said. But it's a premium rate of $39.99 which of course they say they will refund if unsucessful.
Well I tried them as my last resort and guess what? I've had no response from them since last night and they promise a 5-30 min turnaround time on 99% of all unlocks.
So now I'm worrying about the 4 or 5 refunds I'm expecting for all the various unlocking sites I tried AND they guy I bought my HD7 from has decided to no longer respond to my messages. Maybe he knew I couldn't unlock it before hand and took my money and ran.
I guess my last option is the online chat with T-Mobile a few of you have suggested. Otherwise I'm just going to sell it and let someone else figure out how to unlock it.

I tried the online T-Mobile chat and they said unless I bought it right from T-Mobile and have a receipt they will not unlock it for me.
Can anyone offer some advice on either what I can say to them or perhaps if one of you are an existing T-Mobile client you could offer me some assitance??
I'd hate to have to get rid of it now

Hopefully with some time these databases for unlocking will get updated?
I'm close to buying one off something through kijiji in toronto as well.. he just dropped the prices recently, really hope its not the case where the phone cannot be unlocked. Considering I only see one guy selling in toronto I don't think I should take the chance.

profets said:
Hopefully with some time these databases for unlocking will get updated?
I'm close to buying one off something through kijiji in toronto as well.. he just dropped the prices recently, really hope its not the case where the phone cannot be unlocked. Considering I only see one guy selling in toronto I don't think I should take the chance.
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Just a heads up the only guy on Kijiji is the guy I bought mine from yesterday. He got back to me now and says he doesn't have retail receipts as he buys from a wholesaler. He says he'll see if there is anything he can do for me.
EDIT:
Here's for anyone else having Sim unlocking problems but can actually get the sales receipt. I just got this in my email:
Unlock Code: Waiting For FAX - MSRP
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile. At this time, we will need a copy of the original sales receipt to be faxed into the SIM Unlock Team showing full retail purchase price was paid for the equipment. The fax number is 813-353-6557. Your request will be placed in pending status for 7 business days to allow time for processing. Please include the following information with the fax.
" ATTN: SIM Unlock Team
" Remedy Form#
" Customer's Full Name
" Contact number
" Customer's Email Address (optional)
" Copy of the original sales receipt showing the Full Retail Purchase Price of the handset.
Thank You,
Sim Unlock Department
T-Mobile USA, Inc.

pistol44 said:
Just a heads up the only guy on Kijiji is the guy I bought mine from yesterday. He got back to me now and says he doesn't have retail receipts as he buys from a wholesaler. He says he'll see if there is anything he can do for me.
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Yup, was talking to him as well, and he mentioned someone bought one and is unable to unlock it. Really sucks, wanted to grab this phone, but going to wait I guess if there's really an unlocking issue right now.

profets said:
Yup, was talking to him as well, and he mentioned someone bought one and is unable to unlock it. Really sucks, wanted to grab this phone, but going to wait I guess if there's really an unlocking issue right now.
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Well I would still buy one IF you weren't in a rush to set it up and didn't mind possibly waiting for a couple weeks for the code. Just don't do what I did and get rid of your current phone with expectations the new one will be up and running in minutes..

If the Kijiji guy did buy in bulk, maybe you can ask him to use http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php to check if the rest of his phones are unlockable and if it is try asking for an exchange.

pistol44 said:
Well I would still buy one IF you weren't in a rush to set it up and didn't mind possibly waiting for a couple weeks for the code. Just don't do what I did and get rid of your current phone with expectations the new one will be up and running in minutes..
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Yeah thats still not a bad idea. It's for a secondary line I have on Wind and currently just using it with a cheap phone. Wonder how long the unlock will take though..

tissot201 said:
If the Kijiji guy did buy in bulk, maybe you can ask him to use http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/check-imei.php to check if the rest of his phones are unlockable and if it is try asking for an exchange.
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Think he has one left and I asked him about trying that tool but he didn't answer. Sounds like he just found out recently that they're not unlockable right now.

profets said:
Think he has one left and I asked him about trying that tool but he didn't answer. Sounds like he just found out recently that they're not unlockable right now.
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Well I should probably mention that after he got back to me today about my issues he did promise to go home tonight to see if the other one he had left was unlockable immediately. And if it was he assured me he would let me switch mine for that one. So perhaps that's why he didn't answer you, not sure.
But once I'm out of options and anyone wants mine (that's willing to wait of course) you're welcome to buy it from it me.
I'm going to try taking a walk around here at lunch for fun and see if any of these guys on Yonge St. can unlock it.

^Thats true, he doesn't have it with him so can't check now. He's been a nice guy though, and that's cool if he can let you swap it if its unlockable.

Anyone having any luck getting the Moto X on contract in the UK?

Can only find it on mobile phones direct, an online only retailer. And they're taking forever to ship it, and pretty much lied to me about their stock.
So does anyone in the UK know anywhere stocking it? This phone seems so damn hard to get a hold of

I haven't seen it on any network anywhere. I heard P4U had an exclusive on it, but since they've gone bang.....

Yea I think that's what's screwing us over here, the phone seems to be stuck in limbo.
I ended up ordering it via mobile phones direct, they've told me it would be here tomorrow everyday for a week now. Initially was meant to be here last friday. Rung up today and they've told me it is delayed for a week. Could really do with someone else selling it

Clove have them SIM-free:
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-x
As well as Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Moto-Smartphone-Black-Resin/dp/B00NBU1MZS

EddyOS said:
Clove have them SIM-free:
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-x
As well as Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Moto-Smartphone-Black-Resin/dp/B00NBU1MZS
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Yea I'm after a contract

Still no news on the Moto X being on any network. I can't really dish out the nearly £500 for the 32GB
Has anyone heard anything?

Mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are the only provider I've found so far, received mine a couple of days ago

I find it really strange after all the good reviews of this phone, its like the networks are shunning Motorola. I've had online chats with o2 and I've had responses usually worded "we have no updates for this device" I wish they'd just give a yes/no about if its coming soon or not

lennyboi77 said:
I find it really strange after all the good reviews of this phone, its like the networks are shunning Motorola. I've had online chats with o2 and I've had responses usually worded "we have no updates for this device" I wish they'd just give a yes/no about if its coming soon or not
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I spoke with EE who is my provider and they said that they had no idea if they would get the phone because Motorola phones do not sell well (with them).
I played with the Z3 on Wednesday and REALLY liked it. It would have been better if it was close to pure android BUT given the unfortunate circumstances with the lack of availability from the Moto X, I will be purchasing the Z3 this weekend.

I think the networks are missing a trick here, some people are after a stock android experience and the size of the nexus 6 will put some off so will be wanting a device like the moto x.

lennyboi77 said:
I think the networks are missing a trick here, some people are after a stock android experience and the size of the nexus 6 will put some off so will be wanting a device like the moto x.
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I was one of those who was put off by the size of the Nexus 6. Maybe it is Motorola's interest to push the Nexus before its other phones?!

texaslittleangel said:
I was one of those who was put off by the size of the Nexus 6. Maybe it is Motorola's interest to push the Nexus before its other phones?!
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I was going to hold off for the Nexus 6, but after looking around I decided I don't want a handset of that size.
The New Moto X (2014) really took my fancy and my brother bigged up the Moto X (2013) so after a lot of hunting around on the net and trying to get the New Moto X as an upgrade from my service provider with no luck as they haven't heard of it.
I found Mobile Phones Direct on the net and placed my order a few days ago. It arrived yesterday and I unlocked the bootloader (followed guide on Motorola website) straight out of the box and then once loosely set up I rooted it (followed the guides in this forum) to bring back the exposed goodness that I love.
The phone looks great and feels great in the hand, love rooted stock KitKat with exposed.

wiggy6230 said:
I found Mobile Phones Direct on the net and placed my order a few days ago. It arrived yesterday.
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Can I ask is there any network branding on it? Mines coming Monday on EE, also from Mobile phones direct. I figured (hoped) as none of the networks seem to be offering it themselves MPD might just be selling the SIM free model with a contract

Hello there,
No branding or bloatware on the phone at all.

wiggy6230 said:
Hello there,
No branding or bloatware on the phone at all.
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Excellent, thanks for that... Just what I was hoping you would say

Does that mean that mobilephonesdirect sells the pure edition? In spite of their nice price, I would hate ending up with a locked bootloader at the end

kjozsa said:
Does that mean that mobilephonesdirect sells the pure edition? In spite of their nice price, I would hate ending up with a locked bootloader at the end
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Going by model number (XT1092 Europe, Asia) its not a Pure Edition (XT1095) but according to the table at this link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(2nd_generation) its SIM Unlocked.
The bootloader was easily unlocked by following the guides in this forum and on the Motorola website (did it as part of my first boot up)
Then rooted after basic set up.

Thinking of getting pixel 4 xl. Need advice.

Hi, long term xda lurker, first time poster. I've used the search function to try and find my answer, but I keep getting a lot of conflicting answers so I wanted to see what you guys can tell me.
I was considering getting a pixel 4 xl but I want to know if its bootloader is locked. From what I can gather, the us carrier version are in fact locked however a few people have said that if you buy it outright from Google it is unlockable. Can anyone please confirm this? I've always used custom recoveries and rooms like cyanogen and now lineage from my HTC incredible, gs2, gs3, gs4. When I bought my gs7 edge I was highly disappointed to find no way to unlock it and don't want to go through that again. Any help here is mich appreciated.

From the forums, USA carriers will lock the bootloader initially and after you pay off the device (or a certain amount of time has lapsed) you can request they unlock the bootloader. For example, AT&T has a different policy from Verizon, etc.
I am in Canada and my carrier, Telus, did not lock the bootloader. Definitely no hassles if you buy the phone from Google, the bootloader is unlockable.
You may want to look into Google-Fi as well, sometimes they offer phones at a discount. Not sure what has happened post pandemic crisis though.

Fi and Goog phones are unlocked in all respects. All the carrier phones are sim locked and bootloader locked. Tmo for sure can be bootloader unlocked after it's paid for upon request, some have mentioned a 30 day wait also but I did not have to wait. I haven't read up on the other carriers.

Thanks guys from the quick replies! Looks like I'll order a pix4 from google then. I appreciate your input. After dealing with this gs7 (I was such a Samsung nerd for a long time) I'm tired of all the lockouts.

Def Fi or Goog then. Exact same phone but sometimes the deal is better with one or the other so it can pay to have a quick look at both to see if one cuts you a break. The phones have frequently been on sale so some patience might be rewarded if you're of a mind to try and hold out for a better deal.

Verizon will NOT unlock the bootloader. Even if you pay it off.
I purchased mine directly from the Google store and unlocked it on day one