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Hello All.
I have spent a lot of time reading and am quite confused by all the different ROMs out there.
I live in the US, have T-mobile and need Exchange support and Tehtering. What is the best ROM for me in your opinion.
I am especially interested in ROMs where an easy-to-follow tutorial is available as this is my first G1 mod (but I did mod my Dash quite a few times).
Thanks,
Richard
Cyanogen's builds are the bees knees. Exchange support built into latest releases.
I think you have to download wifitether on the experimental build at the moment.
Can you name a specific build? also, can I get the tethering working in non-experimental roms?
Thanks
yeah. he recently released 3.9.5 which is very nice, you should be able to get the tethering working
My research shows that that is still experimental and has a possibility of bricking a phone. Any news on that? I am more interested in an already-stable release
Richard
Then just go get his stable release. It's in the dev forum also. It's 3.6.8.1 and btw I'm a total noob who has flashed every single experimental release of the cyan builds and flashed haykuro's spl so if I haven't bricked my phone yet I'm sure you will be perfectly fine just flashing that rom.
Google ION.
RDProgrammer said:
My research shows that that is still experimental and has a possibility of bricking a phone. Any news on that? I am more interested in an already-stable release
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You don't have to worry about bricking your phone. His rom's don't require the brick SPL.
anyone have a good link to a walkthru on how to go thru the whole process?
Thanks
Everything you will need to root you can find here: XDA ***Informative Threads***
I can follow the root tutorials.
What is the prescribed step-by-step after that? I am hoping to go to the stable version mentioned here or another ROM that supports exchange. There is so much conflicting information on the threads that says to do this or that for this or that and its hard to follow with all the acronyms and such. Any help is appreciated,
Richard
well yo should just get the latest cyanogen image.
i have been flashing all his roms since day 1 and i have never had 1 issue.
for right now ignore any other roms (such as the hero mods from jachero or drizzy) because they are very unstable and slow. since its your first cooked rom your best bet is to flash to cyanogens 3.9.5 and your set. you dont need anything set up except root and your ext2/ext3 partition. no scripts necessary or additional apps to keep your apps to the sd card.
hope this helps.
boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
^^ That is a great tutorial. ^^
1.4 pimped out recovery image, is truly pimped out. Backing up an image of your phones software to your sdcard only takes a few button presses, same with restoring it. Has other very useful features as well.
Danger SPL is really only needed for certain Hero builds, a partitioned card is good if you need Apps2SD.
In your case: Root it, install 1.4 recovery, then go with Cyanogen 3.6.8.1, install wifiTether.
Btw. If you plan on using wifiTether often, carry a charger or usb cable. It eats your battery quickly.
Enjoy!
Quite a bit of mis-information here.
The poster wants EXCHANGE support. Cyan's rom's do not have true exchange support.
What you need is either a Hero or Rogers ROM. The most stable, fastest, best ROM I've used so far is Soulife Rogers. There is a version that does not require the new SPL if you wish to not upgrade that. You can install WiFi Tether on any rooted phone with any ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608 - Soulife Rogers
You'll want to root your phone first, then run the latest cyan recovery (1.4) - partition your SD card for fat32, ext2, linux-swap. Then run "upgrade_fs" to upgrade to ext3... install the soulife rom. Then install swapper from the market and select "linux partition" from the menu.
This is a pretty vague how-to, if you need more help feel free to ask.
This is the setup that I currently run. I get no force-closes, no lags, no freeze ups, everything is lightning fast plus FULL exchange (contacts/calendar/email) and even the HTC Dialer. Soulife's ROM is probably the best ROM available at this point.
Google ION.
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I second this. With HK's SPL it gives you about 80 mb of free internal memory. Plus its super fast.
I havent tried Cyan's roms yet, mainly bc I dont feel like having to partition SD Card, then run a swapper on the thing. I want my phone just to work by itself, not with the addition of all these extra processes.
This is in no way a dig at Cyan, he's a great developer with (obviously) great stuff. But if you just want an Update.zip that you throw on your SD Card and update with amazing results I recommend Ion.
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The poster wants EXCHANGE support. Cyan's rom's do not have true exchange support.
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Egad, I forgot about the calendar and contacts. I was just thinking of the mail application.
Good catch.
Does ION have FULL exchange support? If it's the Rogers ION port than it should.
Also, swapper isn't required. It's silly not to use it though as it speeds up the phone.
I havent tried Cyan's roms yet, mainly bc I dont feel like having to partition SD Card, then run a swapper on the thing. I want my phone just to work by itself, not with the addition of all these extra processes.
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quick note, in Cyan's ROMs you do not need to partition your SD card. if your card is not partitioned, it will not use the features and still runs smooth and fast. OK so maybe it won't be quite as fast as when using a swap, but it's definately fine without it.
Back on topic, i too would generally recomend Cyan's ROMs, but sadly no exchange, try a Roger's ROM, either by Soul-life or TheDude.
to install, if you have already rooted your phone and installed a custom ROM, simply download the ROM, rename it to update.zip, place it on the root of your SD card. Reboot phone holding HOME and POWER. i recomend a wipe if you're switching ROMs, so press ALT+W to wipe, then press ALT+S to apply the update. when it's done, press HOME+BACK to reboot your phone. It will take a little longer to boot after a flash, that's normal so don't panic.
hope that helps
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quick note, in Cyan's ROMs you do not need to partition your SD card. if your card is not partitioned, it will not use the features and still runs smooth and fast. OK so maybe it won't be quite as fast as when using a swap, but it's definately fine without it.
Back on topic, i too would generally recomend Cyan's ROMs, but sadly no exchange, try a Roger's ROM, either by Soul-life or TheDude.
to install, if you have already rooted your phone and installed a custom ROM, simply download the ROM, rename it to update.zip, place it on the root of your SD card. Reboot phone holding HOME and POWER. i recomend a wipe if you're switching ROMs, so press ALT+W to wipe, then press ALT+S to apply the update. when it's done, press HOME+BACK to reboot your phone. It will take a little longer to boot after a flash, that's normal so don't panic.
hope that helps
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If you are running Cyan's 1.4 recovery, there is no need to rename to update.zip anymore.
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If you are running Cyan's 1.4 recovery, there is no need to rename to update.zip anymore.
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Haha, thanks for the reminder, i forgot about that part, but if it's any other recovery, then update.zip will do just fine
Hello everyone! Last night I spent about 3 hours installing the JACXHERO-v2.6.6 rom onto my Tmobile G1 using a method from unlockr.com (http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how...g-best-method/). Unfortunately, it runs extremely slow right now.
For example, when i press home after sending a text message it goes to the HTC screen and simply sits there for about 30 seconds. At first I thought this was due to the weather widget updating but even when I took it off it still does this. Another thing is that it will sometimes take 10 seconds to switch screens when i slide my finger.
I know I am still new to this and realize there are some veterans on this forum that have a lot more experience with this. Can anyone please suggest to me what to do?
The bottom line is, all i want to do is run a stable and lag free (or fast) Rom.
Thanks guys!
i am taking a few liberties...
from the line, that you want a stable and fast rom, i assume you would like another rom besides hero. so download the latest stable rom off of cyanogen's thread.
after you download it and put it on your sdcard go into recovery then to the recovery console and type
Code:
mke2fs -j /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
that will format your ext3 partition.
now type in the recovery console
Code:
reboot recovery
once the phone boots up into recovery again, wipe the phone then flash the rom, then reboot when it is finished.
alright will do but i was wondering if you could give me a step by step instruction on how to do all this (like i said im very new to this sort of thing) =/ im sorrry
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alright will do but i was wondering if you could give me a step by step instruction on how to do all this (like i said im very new to this sort of thing) =/ im sorrry
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i'm no rocket surgeon but here goes
download rom
place on root (no folders) of sdcard
power down phone
boot into recovery with home and power
scroll down to recovery console
enter command above to format ext3.
then type reboot recovery to boot back into recovery
select data wipe/factory reset
press home to confirm
now select flash any .zip (assuming you have cyanogen's 1.4 recovery image, if not, name rom to update in windows or update.zip for mac/linux prior to putting on phone, then select apply update.zip sdcard instead of any .zip)
hit home after selecting your rom (again 1.4 recovery)
when it is done flashing select reboot
happiness is yours.
yes you must wipe the phone and your ext3 partition since you are coming from hero to AOSP (cupcake/donut) (opposite applies as well).
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Hello everyone! Last night I spent about 3 hours installing the JACXHERO-v2.6.6 rom onto my Tmobile G1 using a method from unlockr.com (http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how...g-best-method/). Unfortunately, it runs extremely slow right now.
For example, when i press home after sending a text message it goes to the HTC screen and simply sits there for about 30 seconds. At first I thought this was due to the weather widget updating but even when I took it off it still does this. Another thing is that it will sometimes take 10 seconds to switch screens when i slide my finger.
I know I am still new to this and realize there are some veterans on this forum that have a lot more experience with this. Can anyone please suggest to me what to do?
The bottom line is, all i want to do is run a stable and lag free (or fast) Rom.
Thanks guys!
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dude youre using such and OLD OLD OLD hero rom... a rom thats is getting much hype nowadays is hero2 1.5.1
hero in its current stages arent lag free. no rom is lag free... you will experience some kind of lag always anyways.
brian_v3ntura said:
dude youre using such and OLD OLD OLD hero rom... a rom thats is getting much hype nowadays is hero2 1.5.1
hero in its current stages arent lag free. no rom is lag free... you will experience some kind of lag always anyways.
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i still have jac 1.4 on my computer. i thought about flashing it once just to see how HUGE the improvement in hero roms has gotten
[ROM]JACxHEROSki-v2.1 - Experimental
...that's all I have to say.
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[ROM]JACxHEROSki-v2.1 - Experimental
...that's all I have to say.
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So are you saying Cyanogen's "experimental" builds aren't fast? If you were following the Hero scene closely you would know that every Hero build is "experimental," some just happen to be faster than others.
I recommend flashing one of the new ROMs such as Hero2 1.5.1, Modaco 2.2 (requires some tweaking to get flying), JACHEROSki 1.7r2(older but more stable/fast), or Drizzy's 1.4r1
NOTE: this is just my OPIONION
Cyanogens, is based on doughnut, so it looks the same as cupcake etc.. with custom enhancements (personally i think its fantastic)
The hero roms (in my experiance) its a case of reading the threads and trying a few to see what runs / works best for you
thanks a lot guys! it really helped! i have one quick question though
a lot of you have been recommending hero2 1.5.1 rom and i just watched a video on youtube for it where the guy was explaining how fast it was lol (and from the looks of it his seemed to have no lag when scrolling from left to right a bunch of times even with widgets)
my question is: is it really much faster and more stable? there are so many times where i'll be in my messages or something and i press the home key and theres a loading screen for like 30 seconds...i used the unlockr.com's method to partition my sd card to ext3 and what not
if i download and install the new hero rom, what are some suggestions on how to make it run faster?
people keep mentioning 96 mb partition or something like that and i have no idea what there talking about or how to do it
also, just in case i want to go back to the original os that came with the phone, how do i do it?
try moving the cache that is the first thing to do with hero there is a lot of maintence that go along with hero
Have posted this a number of places with no luck, including Rom Mgr thread:
If I flash a rom, set it up, then back up, Rom Mgr will not reboot to system. Goes to X and hangs. Sometimes after 3 tries or so it works or if I Restore the recent backup it works. Nothing consistent.
This started when I used amon 2.0 to increase ext to 1024mb for running eVil's desire rom. I had numerous issues where I could not even back up or restore. Seemed to always hang on android-secure part. Since then I reformatted sdcard with sdformatter, then used RM to create 1024 ext3. Flashed fresh eVil HD Gamma rom. All went well, but again after setting everything up and then tapping on reboot into system it hung again. It did not hang after initial flashing of rom and Circle Battery .zip. It booted into system fine.
When I got back to system and homescreens, I uninstalled RM and reinstalled. Although, I had done that before, but before I reformatted sdcard.
So, if this keeps up, only conclusion is RM even though I installed latest from Market, or this rom is messing things up. But, no mention of this issue anywhere else. I will try to boot into Clockwork thru Quick Boot (did that before also) to get to recovery and see how it goes.
Anyone have any idea for a solution to this nightmare, or had a similar experience. Running out of ideas. I am going to dl latest MIUI rom and see how it performs. And maybe load an earlier version of eVil's HD rom.
Thanks for any help, know this is weird,
Ken
Only thing I would suggest is to stop using ROM manager. There is really no need for it. Anything you can do in that, you can do either in recovery, or via a terminal.
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Only thing I would suggest is to stop using ROM manager. There is really no need for it. Anything you can do in that, you can do either in recovery, or via a terminal.
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+1
IMO, using an in-OS software to control the recovery is risky. I prefer having full control by manually flashing everything!
Thanks guys for replying,
I can try reboot recovery thru terminal and Quick Boot. Although, it did it right after repartitioning with Amon_Ra. So, thought it might not be Rom Mgr.
Really thought the reformat of sdcard would do it. May have two issues. Next step is to get the latest eVil rom off and go back to previous version and/or repartition back to 512mb sdext.
Just Frustrated and Confused
Ken
Just an update guys, since you were kind enough to reply to my post
I have kept the 1024 sdext made thru RM/CW removed both eVil's roms and relashed a fresh MIUI. No issues so far, time will tell. Will probably reflash a MicroMod rom too. Can't believe the larger HD rom was the cause. I loved the rom.
If I figure it out one way or the other I'll update. I can't even google my problem and find someone else with it.
Ken
id get rid of rom manager and clockwork. i flashed many many many things/times with amon ra recovery alone without issues, but all i hear are problems with rom manager/clockwork. i mean how easy is it to just go into recovery and flash? or just download something through the browser... my 2 cents
I've been doing this for 8 months and started with amon. Never had issues with either amon or rm/cw. Started using rm/cw just to try when doing a lot of nightlies with cyan.
But, I recently repartitioned to 1024 sdext3 with amon to run desire rom and amon hung too.
Still 1024 and no hanging with MIUI, using rm/cw. I don't have a preference one way or the other, as long as it works.
Don't think it is either amon or rm/cw, but the rom and my ext not working well together. Had no issues with the 512 ext and desire rom. But, I was getting windows warnings on errors on my sdcard and thought it time to reformat anyway.
Thanks for the advice all, I will run MIUI and Micro for awhile and maybe go back to 512 ext.
Did learn for anyone using Rom Mgr that it does now do 1024 ext3 partitioning. Many people thought, as I, it stopped at 512 and ext2. Maybe it use to. Verified the ext 3 thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard. Just FYI.
Ken
Well,
I appreciate all the advice and help, I need it sometimes. But, seems (I hope) that I forgot to reboot into recovery after repartitioning. This tip came from Amon_RA and seems to have fixed my "reboot into system from recovery" issue.
I am now back on eVil's great HD Desire rom and 1024 sdext3 working great.
Thanks,
Ken
so as i was reading up on rooting the EVO for my dad, i ran across people saying that you should use Amon_RA for a recovery and not Clockwork. i have Clockwork installed as my recovery, but i have used Amon before. that one reason that i use clockwork instead of amon is that i can restore certain images of nandroids (not everything if i dont want to, but just the data or system or boot) and i can access my whole sdcard when flashing a zip. and amon looks kinda funny too.
but what are the pros to amon? i know that two of them are that its built from CM sources and that the features in QtADB when in recovery mode work with amon, whereas they dont with clockwork. so what are the technical pros and cons of each? because i think ive done a good job of explaining the interface pros and cons. thanks for the help
PS: the reason why im not just reading the explanations in the evo threads is that i assume that there are seriously major hardware and software differences outside of the htc label on the phones. so yeah.
The Drama with the AmonRa and CW on the EVO forums was because CW would not always flash Cache and Dalvik Cache correctly (one or the other I dont remember off the top of my head) and would also trash their Wimax RSA keys. Recently Koush updated CW to fix all of those problems so the galaxy is at peace again, though rebels still continue to remember the problems that CW brought so they stick to their beautful AmonRa recovery.
I would say it depends on your phone, seems like CW works fine on the Hero CDMA so it should be fine. I came from the Droid Eris where it was known that CW would completely Brick some of our phones
Now I have a Droid1 where CW works magically, like I said, I guess it would depend on the phone Hope this helps.
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The Drama with the AmonRa and CW on the EVO forums was because CW would not always flash Cache and Dalvik Cache correctly (one or the other I dont remember off the top of my head) and would also trash their Wimax RSA keys. Recently Koush updated CW to fix all of those problems so the galaxy is at peace again, though rebels still continue to remember the problems that CW brought so they stick to their beautful AmonRa recovery.
I would say it depends on your phone, seems like CW works fine on the Hero CDMA so it should be fine. I came from the Droid Eris where it was known that CW would completely Brick some of our phones
Now I have a Droid1 where CW works magically, like I said, I guess it would depend on the phone Hope this helps.
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yes, as a matter of fact, this is good to know. thanks
I've been a long time amon ra user never had a problem with it. I have used clockwork (for weeks at a time) but have had issues with it. I like it though don't get me wrong but I suggest amon ra
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I've been a long time amon ra user never had a problem with it. I have used clockwork (for weeks at a time) but have had issues with it. I like it though don't get me wrong but I suggest amon ra
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I'll haave to agree,throughout all the threads I frequent I see people having issues.Don't see it that much with Amon Ra,but I could be wrong.
Plus one on the Sig.
After 3 years, I am still rocking the G1 as my MAIN everyday general use android phone. (Because honestly.. aside from a G2 HTC nothing has come out that really replaces the overall usefulness of the G1)
I still use Enoms 1.6 rom. I checked before about updating, but back then, everyone had gripes or issues, or slowdowns that didnt really make it worth updating from. Anyways, just checking on if anything is different now. For someone who uses a partitioned sd card, apps installed to SD card automatically (not just moved) and so, is there really something worth upgrading to or is enoms rom still overall the better stable rom for us G1 users? Thanks. =)
you will always get the best speed and stability out of donut roms, there are lots of good ones to chose from so take your pick there. if you want to stick with 1.6 then you still might consider the 2708+ updated radio/spl that allows for 14 more megabites of ram, you will definitely notice this! after the update just reflash your rom and a compatible kernel over it.
there nice 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3 roms out there, plenty good enough for a daily driver but there are some lags compared to any good donut rom. if you want a taste try froyobylaszlo if you like it than there are lots more new roms that compare well to that.
2708+ updated radio/spl?
Usually I have about mid 20s-30 for memory free. Which seems decent for the most part, since everything else runs off the sd card. Only reason its lower since I use that compcache stuff.
As for the info, thanks, yea, figured donut is still better least for a every day use and general purpose.
Pls don't mix up RAM and internal memory. Internal memory is comparable to the hard disk of your PC, while RAM is memory which is used for executing programms.
The 2708/0013d combo will give you more RAM (112MB instead of 97MB), so most likely you can renounce on using compcache, but you will need an adapted kernel otherwise you will get bootloops.
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Ah ok. Is enoms rom able to work with this new spl? Not even sure what would be the best way to do this.. Nandroid backup, flash new spl, and nandroid restore?
always do a nandroid.
the method i would do is backup everything via titanium backup, back up any sms or my call log via sms backup +, then i would make sure i have all the requirements and then flash the updated radio and spl. after this i would flash whatever rom i choose (stick with your donut if youd like) then i would flash rom and a compatible kernel over it, reboot, restore and be happy. also i would make sure i have all the files i need ahead of time, this being amon_ra (may need it) radio, spl, orange.nbh (in case of emergency) my rom of choice, and kernel of choice (if needed)
this is the way i'd go about it, you can try any method youd like there are tons of threads about this update so i would recommend reading a few first
oh and even if it sounds complicated its well worth it
I know, G1 was the 1st I ever did heh, now I do alot of em, The others I dont stress about as they arent my main everyday device.. I am just protective of my G1 lol.. My main device.
Does anyone know of enoms works on this new spl radio.
hanvet used enoms with the new radio/spl but i have used other 1.6 roms with it so im sure this will be fine too. just make sure you flash the appropriate kernel over the rom. if you take a look at ezterry's thread on kernels or even on the 2708+ page you will find plenty to choose from
Mysticales said:
I know, G1 was the 1st I ever did heh, now I do alot of em, The others I dont stress about as they arent my main everyday device.. I am just protective of my G1 lol.. My main device.
Does anyone know of enoms works on this new spl radio.
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Yes, it works. I've tried it just some minutes ago. Not sure if everything works, because I did only a quick check, but it's booting, you can log in browser is working, ...
The only thing you need to do is flashing a different kernel which supports the 2708 radio on top of the ROM. I flashed Terry's BiffTest Kernel but also the newer one should work.
If you like to get some more internal memory you could also use MTD-Partitions set to [67,2] which would give you a data partition size of almost 145MB
Btw.: I suppose I could not run such a ROM as my daily driver, it looks like it's already 10 years old ...
Hah found better rom called supertinhte 2.2 rom. Based on T-Mobile myTouch 3G.
Very Very fast ,comes with 82.19 free internal space.I think it is faster than froyo by lazlo with ramhack. Type it in google cant post link cause i am new here
I really like two [email protected] ROMs on my two G1s. I use them as my daily drivers.
I use SuperFroyo on one and I use SuperCDSIv4 (Donut) community edition (looks soooo much better than Mlign, etc...) on the other.
They are both great. I uninstalled virtually everything from SuperFroyo that I could. I can verify that you have no issue with deleting Talk, News and Weather for sure. Also, if you use another keyboard, you can delete the android keyboard. I did that on another installation. I delete stuff to have all apps internal.
SuperCSDIv4 is a little faster most of the time, but the niceties of Froyo are good too so I use and really like both. I recommend Lightning Launcher, then unistall ADW and LauncherPro if you go with Superfroyo. That launcher is hard to set up, but it is really light. Just go into themes and select "Zune" and try that. It is a cool theme and fast.
I think 2.2 is more fit for G1. some apps can't work on 1.6 ROM
True but the fastest 2.2 is slower then the fastest 1.6, if all you need is speed then donut is the way to go. You can push some apks onto donut roms that aren't found in the market but if you need some apps and other things froyo offers then you may need to move up
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Apps for 2.2 arent really needed on the G1 screen, cept maybe those Authenticator apps. I have a diff android if I need those higher end apps.
I am a very proud G1 user too!
But I will suggest going too the CyanogenMod 5 Mod. With the proper tweaks, it reallly runs like a charm. Super E and Super F are also good ideas. Just google them up and look how to install them!!!!
So are people still using the volume increase thing for their G1 as well? I rem using the script and so to tweak that.
To be honest this GinSense rom is very fast and stable, its 2.3.7 using a cyanogenmod base.
There is that one problem with watching movies on it (were the sound keeps going but the video resets) but that's because its a problem with the cyanogenmod base, I know because every cyanogenmod rom I had, had this problem.
I would go to a 1.6 for speed, but then I would lose out on all the apps, and this is a quite snappy rom.
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So question, to flash that ram increase radio. I could do that and do a nandroid restore afterwords?
No I'm pretty sure you would need to flash your rom again from scratch and then flash a compatible kernel over that
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Well I see the kernel in this thread I should be flashing, but I am very confused. Ok, my SD card has its apps installed to it, the rom auto uses it for storage. I dont know if I should just be relying on Titanium backup for a backup and restore or nandroid.
Im "open" to the idea of upgrading the rom if its speedy. I just dont wanna lose all the apps and work I had on this rom already. Just so confusing atm. Been a LONG time since I had to flash or work with the G1. (Never need to mess with something that works flawless) My other androids I flash the **** out of and update heh. My g1 is my baby, so always was careful. I wouldnt mind that extra ram tho if it really helps.
So what do you all think is the best way to secure keeping my stuff and easily update this?
Edit: Gonna be basing my study off this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
Just wondering how my apps 2 sd will be, since on Enom, I did this the old school way and not the apps2sd thing. Which makes me think Titanium backup is the best way to restore apps on to a new rom (without data or should I be able to backup with data and restore with data, so used to not restoring with data)
Edit 2: Ok is is possible to do this, based on that thread. I use nandroid to backup, then do the steps, restore using nandroid and before I boot into the phone, I flash that biff any kernel thing, THEN reboot into the phone. Would that work and not lose anything?