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ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice
Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing
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Yes, I am very happy that work has resumed but it would be nice to have some form of roadmap in terms of what you are trying to achieve like the hardware zoom thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515701
thanks again for taking the time to do this. Im free for any beta testing
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Ya it's a very nice idea. I will add roadmap very soon.
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ok, nice that anyone has picked up the project, but some more information would have been nice
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Give me some time i will fill all the details in first post.
Nice to see someone is still working on this. I have been following the development since it was started, and would really like to help. However my programming skills are litterally non-existent, so probably not much I can do apart from cheeering you on? beta testing? let me know..
Cheers
Finally,
Some people like myself too, were hoping in that. A full working version of android on the touch HD...Good luck...and post your results...we would be really pleased to test...
tuxhero - Your the man
Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!
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Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
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Why is Windows not a good OS? I'm not a fan at all, but such statements are simply not true. Furthermore you should consider that Windows has nothing to do with Windows Mobile ...
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We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
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Mine isn't crashing that often, isn't slow and I haven't noticed any bug so far.
Just to make it clear: I don't want to hamper the development. In fact I would love to see an alternative to Windows Mobile, but saying things like above aren't the right motivation!
Windows Mobile - even in 6.5 version is good couple years behind functionality of Android or Iphone OS. It was build for PDAs or Pocket PC and it was working perfectly fine for those devices.
BUT for HTC Blackstone - it is not suitable, yes TouchFlo is making this beautiful phone usable, but its only thanks to it one can appreciate it's functionality.
That is why I would LOVE to see Android working on Blackstone.
So thank you for trying. I will be among the first people that will test it whenever you will make it available. [I am just a phone user/gadget lover - so can't help more than that]
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Hi tuxhero,
Touch HD is a very good device, but windows is not a good SO.
We all know windows, slow, always crashing...lost os bugs...
Android in Touch HD would be real great.
I'm available to do developments, testing, anything.
Try to describe really well, provide helpful link....you know info that can help...
I'm joining this TEAM TUXHERO ANDROID BLACKSTONE
It seams that at least now things are going on the right track, we have people working.
See you my friend...You are the man!!!
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I don't think that WM is a bad OS.
Ok, the shipped ROM of my HD was... omg it was horrible.
But when I look at the actually cooked ROMs, they are very fast and stable.
There smoothnes is almost as good as the Iphone's one.
I think all OS's has there positive and negative aspects:
WM is not the userfriendliest, but fully customizeable!
Iphone OS is very userfriendly, but its customizeable like a Gameboy (Customizeable don't means installing different programms)
Android is an alternative to both OS. Userfriendly and customizeable. So if anyone isn't that happy with WM, Android is an good alternative.
I would support this project with all I'm able to.
Greets
Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
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Thankyou for your support but please limit this thread to Android Porting only don't use it for other stuff.
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Some kind of sum up would be nice, I guess its too hard to get involved by reading the whole "old" thread ...
Funny
I bet this thread is going to nowhere. Mr. starter will disappear in a day or two.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3938291&postcount=18 - good excuse
I'm sorry, of course, for bringing that to the public.
Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
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Is it possible to extract the kernel from the HTC Magic ROM and test it on our Blackstone?
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It is possible but you don't need to extract it we already had source code so we can compile it. But the problem is blackstone is not designed to run Android
that changes lot of things. Now our task is to find what we need to change n change it.
So you said that you are using the android-msm and not the htc-msn kernel for now.
What kernel did xmoo and obus(?? not sure about the name ^^) use? The htc-msm?
Is the android kernel as good as working as the version from obus/xmoo, or is it working better in the moment?
Sry for my english *g*
I saw that Cyanogen ported the power manager widget and I wanted to put it on my phone. He said it was on his Github so i went there and found this:
http://github.com/cyanogen/android_packages_apps_Settings/tree/master
but it is the source code. Could some one post the Settings.apk or give me some help compiling it.
Also I just wanted to make sure, this will work on 3.8 right?
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I saw that Cyanogen ported the power manager widget and I wanted to put it on my phone. He said it was on his Github so i went there and found this:
http://github.com/cyanogen/android_packages_apps_Settings/tree/master
but it is the source code. Could some one post the Settings.apk or give me some help compiling it.
Also I just wanted to make sure, this will work on 3.8 right?
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Might as well wait for him to bring it over in 3.9.1. Can never be too careful He should release it soon enough, I'm guessing either today or tomorrow.
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Might as well wait for him to bring it over in 3.9.1. Can never be too careful He should release it soon enough, I'm guessing either today or tomorrow.
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I've heard "later today" (or similar) from Cyanogen several times already and it was never the case.
I like his style though. Unlike other devs who would release fixes almost daily, he likes to make sure stuff works before giving it to us. Of course mistakes happen, he's just a man after all, no matter how hard some of us believe that he's GOD
Anyway, I think it's best to wait too.
He should be named "xda android master dev"
not to disrespect Cyanogen, i love his roms, but please don't forget the path that lead us to this point. JesusFreke and stericson as well as several others got us here, Cyanogen just took it to the next level. Cyanogen is great but without the other guys we would be stuck with stock
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not to disrespect Cyanogen, i love his roms, but please don't forget the path that lead us to this point. JesusFreke and stericson as well as several others got us here, Cyanogen just took it to the next level. Cyanogen is great but without the other guys we would be stuck with stock
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Yes, yes, JF, Haykuro, and all the rest were gods at some point. They chose to not be any more, so we praise Cyanogen today. Tomorrow we might praise someone else.
Comming back to the original topic, 3.9.1 is out and it includes the widget you wanted. Case closed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539744
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They chose to not be any more, so we praise Cyanogen today. Tomorrow we might praise someone else.
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im making this thread for all of us who own a diam500/cdma version of the touch diamond. lets see what we can do to get android to fully work or work at all on our phones. ive asked zenulator & msmission to assist us, they are from the vogue/android section of xda. im sure with their knowledge they can get us hooked up.
i find it ridiculous that gsm diamonds have a fully working port but cdma does not. hopefully this thread will spark some devs interest? id try but im no good at this stuff+i have no time to learn to develop.
so what doesn't work? Do you have builds already? Do you have a kernel git somewhere? Do you have a ril git somewhere?
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so what doesn't work? Do you have builds already? Do you have a kernel git somewhere? Do you have a ril git somewhere?
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i can do some searching but the last version i saw on ppcgeeks was from june and it had no working phone, data or sms. ill find it and give you the link.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74691
heres the last known sort of working port for the diam500.
http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=68&id=5:htc-diamond
heres another link to a site that they host android on for gsm diamonds and touch pro's. don't know if it can help but i figured id post it.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux#Buildx20.Yourx20.Own
heres the xda wiki for the diamond/touch pro android.
so you guys need an entire ril written? sorry not my area of expertise
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so you guys need an entire ril written? sorry not my area of expertise
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im not sure, do you know of anybody that can help us out on your end?
so there is zero interest in this guys?
I'm very interested, but without any real developers on board with these specific devices, the going is slow and painful. I've been digging into source code this week, compiling kernel builds, trying to see how far I can get... but when it gets down to actually modifying the code, it's well beyond my level of expertise.
I've got a post over on ppcgeeks with a working build for my raph800, with possibly working wifi, but no cdma radio. I'm not sure if it'll work for diam500, but it should, since it's based on the combined build.
Since then, I've gotten some help from phh on irc, and gotten a build with cdma radio working, but still no cdma data (pretty sure it broke wifi, too). It's got a different ril rolled into the rootfs.img, and the last working smd.c and smd_rpcrouter.c from linuxtogo stuck into the latest build from the gitorious autobuild.
Anyway, you can give it a shot with this package from connect-UTB with the rootfs and zImage from ppcgeeks -- can't seem to upload them here. That's where we're at now. What's needed now is someone who can actually write the code for smd.c and smd_7500.c (the msm7500, i.e. cdma chipset) so that it properly creates a data channel. At that point we'll be pretty close to where the gsm project is. Are there any real developers in the house?
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so there is zero interest in this guys?
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I'd love to see this happen, and have checked these threads for quite a while in hopes of real progress. I've been really impressed with zenulator's work, incredible really, but as I understand it, he was offered a dia500 but declined it? Were he or another accomplished developer up to the challenge, I'd make a Paypal donation to them in a heartbeat, as I'm sure many many other lurkers would.
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I'd love to see this happen, and have checked these threads for quite a while in hopes of real progress. I've been really impressed with zenulator's work, incredible really, but as I understand it, he was offered a dia500 but declined it? Were he or another accomplished developer up to the challenge, I'd make a Paypal donation to them in a heartbeat, as I'm sure many many other lurkers would.
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i love to see it too as i hate winmo with a passion. i would also donate for a fully working port.
i am in for a donation too.
hoping for Android!
Me too no doubt you can count me in too for a paypal donation. Doing these kernals and modifying the code requires a good deal of time. If you are a developer out there reading this thread there are people here willing to reimburse you for that time and effort you put into it.
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Hey I caught eye of this on PPC, am very much interested in seeing this project pull through. Seems like hordes of work, I am also willing to donate through paypal to keep steam on this !
*fingers crossed*
we need something, i mean they have a flashable android rom for the touch vogue now and we have squat nothing.
fixxxer2008 said:
we need something, i mean they have a flashable android rom for the touch vogue now and we have squat nothing.
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fyi, some progress is being made, but not there yet.... ;(
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61457&page=40
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fyi, some progress is being made, but not there yet.... ;(
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61457&page=40
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no progress than i can see. by the time they do it, ill have a real android phone.
Hey everyone, I've been working on DIAM500 and Android for the last week (after not having done much since October). There has been some real progress since then, especially in the phone functionality.
Things that work:
* placing/receiving calls (although only the speaker works, not the mic)
* send/receive SMS
* Wi-Fi
We're also real close to getting a cell data connection working.
Things that don't work:
* Bluetooth
* Camera
* GPS
* Power management (backlight control, sleep)
* Performance is sometimes sluggish
If I can get a cell data connection running (it is working sporadically on RAPH800), I'll post a kernel and instructions here so you can try it out.
I have a feeling if it gets to the point that wifi and data work, a lot of vogue guys will pick up diamonds on ebay, which would contribute to this fledgling thread. I am both a vogue and diamond owner, the screen and features of the diamond would blow the vogue out of the water if it were as functional with android.
This is a discussion thread for all things custom; Building steps and tips, problem solving and issue discussion. All questions and/or comments are welcome. Be aware, although I build and customize ROMs, I am not a professional developer and cannot promise a solution for your problem. But, hopefully, we can work together to come up with practical solutions for any problems here at m7spr.
So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
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So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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A couple of people developed a "consensus" that it had been fixed. then 2 more people bricked their phones. ALLEGEDLY the CPU has a tendency to over clock itself and lock at 1.7 Ghz
This is all fine and dandy yet no one can figure out why or how to stop it.
I thought so too
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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It is the only common factor in permanent bricks. Phone gets hot, phone wont charge. All other "bricks" are user induced because people did not understand what S-Off meant, what wiping in TWRP means, what GSM means etc etc.
So how many confirmed permanent bricks and when was the last? Has anyone proven a cause? Contacted HTC or CM or Sprint? If there were twenty cases with only 5 confirmed, then it isn't that big from a larger standpoint. See what I mean? That would explain what you see as a lack of support? Has this happened to you?
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Why does there seem to be very little development going on here and why is the development that is taking place so closely guarded? I thought everyone wanted more choices and new options..... I see that there is current and ongoing 10.2 development (hell, I've even built it), but no one wants to release it. I'm hearing that the last guy who did that got banned. So, if everyone is waiting for OFFICIAL builds to be released first, why are there none being officially worked on? Two times in the last three weeks I have inquired about wanting to work on some new development and have either been told straight out not to release or been effectively threatened with reporting before I have even begun an attempt. I don't know if maybe there has been a rash of jerks who are trying to claim ownership of work that does not belong to them or what, but I've never seen as much negativity about new builds in any thread I have been a part of. I want to claim ownership of nothing; I only want to open doors. I guess I'll just work on things for my own use and leave this forum to the guys currently running it. HMPH :angel:
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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Man, if I could do that I'd be a GOD. :angel:
I love lamp
Haha Naw but I see your point but I love and appreciate every devolepers effort here on this forum ..there not a a lot but a bunch of smart and quietly brilliant devs here ...I'm comfortable but the more the merrier
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So first and foremost, it is really important for me to stress how much I personally and im sure the community appreciates all the hard work devs and dev teams put forth so we may enjoy and open and awesome android. That being said there is an almost universally adopted behavior that truly baffles me and I truly wonder about it hence this thread. Why do devs spend so much time and effort to create truly amazing roms only to post them without any screenshots? This is not me being lazy and im fully aware that if i was to flash the rom i could explore it to my heart's content but seeing as to how it takes 20-25 minutes to nandroid backup, wipe, flash, setup ect only to find a rom too bloated or slim on features. Sigh... what im trying to say is I (im sure im not alone) often skip roms without screenshots and favor ones that give me a brief preview of what im about to flash. Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Am I overlooking something obvious or are there others who feel this way?
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Please refrain from ripping me to shreds. I know this is the internet and anonymity brings out the inner D in all of us but this is a genuine inquiry and a respectful one at that.
mado309 said:
So first and foremost, it is really important for me to stress how much I personally and im sure the community appreciates all the hard work devs and dev teams put forth so we may enjoy and open and awesome android. That being said there is an almost universally adopted behavior that truly baffles me and I truly wonder about it hence this thread. Why do devs spend so much time and effort to create truly amazing roms only to post them without any screenshots? This is not me being lazy and im fully aware that if i was to flash the rom i could explore it to my heart's content but seeing as to how it takes 20-25 minutes to nandroid backup, wipe, flash, setup ect only to find a rom too bloated or slim on features. Sigh... what im trying to say is I (im sure im not alone) often skip roms without screenshots and favor ones that give me a brief preview of what im about to flash. Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Am I overlooking something obvious or are there others who feel this way?
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Please refrain from ripping me to shreds. I know this is the internet and anonymity brings out the inner D in all of us but this is a genuine inquiry and a respectful one at that.
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Well it's the Devs choice. So it's not something I would complain about but I do completely understand
XxCyberHackerxX said:
Well it's the Devs choice. So it's not something I would complain about but I do completely understand
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oh I know it is and believe me its not a complaint as much as
a) I wanted to make them aware how many more downloads they would get with this small inclusion
b) I never understood why its overlooked although its probably both the easiest (compared to coding) and most influential factor in a rom's success (beyond you know actually working)
mado309 said:
So first and foremost, it is really important for me to stress how much I personally and im sure the community appreciates all the hard work devs and dev teams put forth so we may enjoy and open and awesome android. That being said there is an almost universally adopted behavior that truly baffles me and I truly wonder about it hence this thread. Why do devs spend so much time and effort to create truly amazing roms only to post them without any screenshots? This is not me being lazy and im fully aware that if i was to flash the rom i could explore it to my heart's content but seeing as to how it takes 20-25 minutes to nandroid backup, wipe, flash, setup ect only to find a rom too bloated or slim on features. Sigh... what im trying to say is I (im sure im not alone) often skip roms without screenshots and favor ones that give me a brief preview of what im about to flash. Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Am I overlooking something obvious or are there others who feel this way?
* ps
Please refrain from ripping me to shreds. I know this is the internet and anonymity brings out the inner D in all of us but this is a genuine inquiry and a respectful one at that.
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ha, ripping you to shreds
well, most nexus roms are based on aosp, and most nexus roms do not add theming, so the far majority of custom roms will look relatively the same. only a rom that also adds a theme willl look different. and they are the ones that usually add screenshots. comprendo?
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ha, ripping you to shreds
well, most nexus roms are based on aosp, and most nexus roms do not add theming, so the far majority of custom roms will look relatively the same. only a rom that also adds a theme willl look different. and they are the ones that usually add screenshots. comprendo?
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That makes infinite amounts of sense! Thank You!
mado309 said:
That makes infinite amounts of sense! Thank You!
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youre welcome. ive had similar questions before, on older nexus devices. it just seems pointless to add in a screenshot or two, if its the same. but, if there is theming, then it makes sense to add a few screenshots. but the great thing about a nexus, we can add in themes after flashing the rom, and our choices
I think where a rom is heavily themed, then yes, screenshots are a must. I really don't see the.point wasting time with screenshots when a rom isn't themed though. They all look the same in that case. Features are best listed, using words.
Edit.. Probably should have read the thread first.