handcent vs chomp vs stock - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Aside form the obvious customization to the 2 third party apk's, why does someone choose handcent over chomp and vice versa why choose a third party over the stock?

For me, stock (Sense) is by far the slowest interface of the bunch... it is slow to open, slow to change numbers to names in the conversation list, and after pressing a conversation, slow to load the messages and slow to load the user icons.
I haven't tried chomp, but handcent is very fast. Handcent and Chomp are almost identical. However I believe handcent is slightly more customizable in terms of visual appearance (colors, layout, etc).
You should also consider the AOSP messaging app. It's basically a cleaner, faster version of the Sense messaging app. However, if you want it, it will have to replace the Sense one; you can't have both at the same time.

I was using handcent for quite a while. I do love being able to make all the visual changes in it. I would normally add pics as backgrounds for individual contacts and the make the bubbles near transparent so messages show up over their pics. Lately on 2.2 I've been using the stock message app. No particular reason. It's simple, no frills SMS. Really the nice thing on the 2.2 Roms is that you can automatically clean your messages to a certain number per thread. That setting applies no matter which app. I have never used chomp so have no take on it.
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I have used all 3 recently on cm6. I have stuck with stock because its simple and fast. I'm also the kind of person that turns off all the eye candy on my computers operating systems. Would rather it be put to speed that visuals
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I haven't used chomp, well, at least not on android. But I didn't like it at all on my blackberry. I also am using the stock messaging app on cm6. I have no problems or lags while using the stock app. But when using the sense messaging app, I find it to have unacceptable and unusable lag and freezes. Which is the whole reason I rooted my phone. And I don't regret it at all!
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On AOSP roms I used stock but on sense roms I use handcent.
The stock one on sense is just really slow unless you constantly delete your sms/mms. You don't have that problem using handcent or chomp.
I am not sure why I picked handcent over chomp but I didn't use chomp very long before switching to handcent. It could of been the customization on handcent.

I started using Handcent on my Hero to combat the partial wake issue the stock Messages app had back on 1.5, and have gotten so accustomed to it I see no reason to go back. Plus, I've recently discovered and fallen in love with Handcent's Quick Reply popup feature.
Also, now that I'm using the HTC_IME keyboard on Fresh, all lag when typing messages in Handcent has disappeared.
I should have rooted & ROMed a long time ago. ;P
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Handcent and Messaging

Hey guys,
I just recently got my HTC hero and I have a question about the messaging app. First of all, I am currently using Handcent mainly because if you use the stock app, texts always show up on the lock screen even if you are using the pattern lock. That is annoying, and I don't understand what the point of the pattern lock is if you can just see my texts without having to even unlock my phone...anyway, so I am using handcent and it's fine. I've made sure to remove notifications on the stock app so that I don't get double notifications, but my question is: is there a way to delete the stock app? I mean is the phone going to slow down since it is getting texts from 2 apps, does that make sense? Even though the notifications are disabled for the stock app, the texts still go there and they are also going to handcent...So basically i would like to know if:
1. i can delete the stock app (i have rooted my phone so...)
2. does it matter that the phone is pulling texts to two different apps
3. is there a way to make my texts not go to my lock screen, if so i would just not use handcent
Finally, on handcent, i will oftentimes get a text twice from people. does anyone have this problem?
Ok tahnks!
1. Don't delete the stock messaging app.
2. From what I've read on these forums, Handcent basically gets texts from the stock messaging app to get texts. Your phone isn't really doing twice the amount of work.
3. Hmm, I use handcent, and I disabled notifications on the stock app, and I don't see any texts from the stock app on my lock screen.
I also get texts twice once in a while. I think it has something to do with scrolling down the conversation window while the text is being received... not sure, but that's what I noticed.
sxelsharif said:
Hey guys,
I just recently got my HTC hero and I have a question about the messaging app. First of all, I am currently using Handcent mainly because if you use the stock app, texts always show up on the lock screen even if you are using the pattern lock. That is annoying, and I don't understand what the point of the pattern lock is if you can just see my texts without having to even unlock my phone...anyway, so I am using handcent and it's fine. I've made sure to remove notifications on the stock app so that I don't get double notifications, but my question is: is there a way to delete the stock app? I mean is the phone going to slow down since it is getting texts from 2 apps, does that make sense? Even though the notifications are disabled for the stock app, the texts still go there and they are also going to handcent...So basically i would like to know if:
1. i can delete the stock app (i have rooted my phone so...)
2. does it matter that the phone is pulling texts to two different apps
3. is there a way to make my texts not go to my lock screen, if so i would just not use handcent
Finally, on handcent, i will oftentimes get a text twice from people. does anyone have this problem?
Ok tahnks!
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Look at handcent as a theme for ur stock text app.
Deleting stock would make text not work.
No way to turn that off in stock text for the lockscreen
Dbl text is the carrier at times. It happens. No way to stop it.
My experience is different, I deleted the stock app (mms.apk) and my text work just fine. As long you as you remembered to turn on auto retrieve in your handcent's setting under "Receive message settings". It has been working for me without any issue.
Handcent and Google Voice don't play well with one another. Handcent won't display my Google Voice number despite what the Google Voice settings say. It also behaves... oddly for me. I really wish it would work the way I want it to, though. Hot damn, is it pretty. I love the interface and the customization options. I just hate the fact that it won't play nice with Google Voice. So... ugly texting through my preferred number, it is!
Have you tried chomp sms? Similar look, not as customizable, but may play better with gv
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danaff37 said:
Have you tried chomp sms? Similar look, not as customizable, but may play better with gv
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I have tried Chomp. But, as far as I can tell, when not sending from the Google Voice application, it tells people that it came from my cell number, not my Google Voice number. The whole point of Google Voice, at least for me, is to have one number forever, not switch between them.

[Q] Alternative to Handcent?

Is there an other MMS apps as an alternate to Handcent or Chomp?
My main issue with Handcent is that it takes too long to get text notifications. They're instant with the default Froyo Mms.apk. Handcent takes an extra 2+ minutes for texts to show up.
I'm willing to try Handcent longer if someone knows how to make it receive texts faster. I enabled auto retrieve and roaming auto retrieve.
Kill the pop up on handcent, that speeds it up a lot.
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Popup is disabled... I'm not talking about phone lag. The texts just don't show up instantly like they do with the default Mms app.
Then just use the stock. I just dropped handcent because it's too bulky.
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http://www.chompsms.com/
There's that, Chomp SMS. I also just use the stock app.
Vvh said:
http://www.chompsms.com/
There's that, Chomp SMS. I also just use the stock app.
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Haha did you read the OP
Jedis said:
Is there an other MMS apps as an alternate to Handcent or Chomp?
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I haven't seen any other sms apps that actually handle sending/receiving texts. Only widgets or popups and such
If you are looking for another texting app, go sms is decent too. Not sure if this will help you, but another option
brfizzle said:
If you are looking for another texting app, go sms is decent too. Not sure if this will help you, but another option
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I used this App for a couple of weeks since I fell in love with the black theme and pop up was 5 times nicer than the Handcent one but I found even Handcent to be quicker than Go SMS. But it is still an App I suggest giving a shot. I might even give it another chance to see if the updates have fixed it up a bit.
I just started using Go SMS the other day and like it a lot. I have been using handcent for a year now and Go SMS seems a little faster and doesn't have all the fluff I didn't use anyway.
was using hancent/chomp/gosms for some time now. just switched back to handcent. to be honest they became quite alike over time. it felt like chomp was always a little behind. no idea what's causing the lag on your phone. although i'm using handcent again, if you can't figure out the source of the problem, i'd recommend staying with gosms. they update all their apps very frequently and doing great so far. might increase the possibility of getting the error fixed which is causing your problem...
I have a HTC Magic and Handcent and the HTC Messaging App both send notifications at exctly the same time.
eqzgkxokwa said:
I have a HTC Magic and Handcent and the HTC Messaging App both send notifications at exctly the same time.
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Disable notifications in the stock app.
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Personally, I am a fan of the stock MMS app and using SMS popup from the market. It's a very small app, and allows the popup similar to Handcent.
go sms pro FTW, it literally pwns everything.
il Duce said:
go sms pro FTW, it literally pwns everything.
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+1. It's my new fav, replaced Handcent for me
il Duce said:
go sms pro FTW, it literally pwns everything.
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Explain the pwnage factor I haven't tried it as I wasn't all that impressed with the description...sounded like all the others with more visual candy (themes). Why are you sold on it?
I don't like how Go SMS doesn't let you restrict the popup to only come up when the screen is off. Also doesn't have the Gingerbread SMS icon.
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Explain the pwnage factor I haven't tried it as I wasn't all that impressed with the description...sounded like all the others with more visual candy (themes). Why are you sold on it?
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It's faster than them all. Also, I like candy
stayclean said:
I don't like how Go SMS doesn't let you restrict the popup to only come up when the screen is off. Also doesn't have the Gingerbread SMS icon.
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I don't use popups, but there's a nice green icon I like. I suppose you could leave the stock icon on and turn off the go icon, then when you get the icon just clear it and launch go? Or use whatever you're using, lol.
Hmm
I have used ChompSMS pretty much the entire time I have owned an android phone and it is way awesome! And super customizable. Way awesome, never have problems with it.
I'm trying out go sms and it seems good so far. I may end up not using the popular because I really like advanced sms toast. It's clean and simple
¿dpeeps74?

What's the best sms app?

I'm literally looking for an sms app that looks like the iphone sms. Which is the best free and paid apps?
Handcent
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agreed. Handcent is what u'd be after if ur looking for an iphone-ish sms app.
That being said, it still doesnt hold a candle to the responsiveness of the stock sms app, even with the overclock.
I do however love the bells and whistles of handcent (mainly the popup box on incoming sms msgs.).
Spz0 said:
agreed. Handcent is what u'd be after if ur looking for an iphone-ish sms app.
That being said, it still doesnt hold a candle to the responsiveness of the stock sms app, even with the overclock.
I do however love the bells and whistles of handcent (mainly the popup box on incoming sms msgs.).
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I totally agree with you Spz0, I've been using Handcent sms now since 2 days after i got my phone, the only other app I had used was GoSms which has alot of the same features as handcent, but I stuck the handcent just the same. I do have some issues sometimes though, like after deleting a message I'll end up receiving it again. I've been trying to figure that one out since day 1. However, I love that app either way.
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I totally agree with you Spz0, I've been using Handcent sms now since 2 days after i got my phone, the only other app I had used was GoSms which has alot of the same features as handcent, but I stuck the handcent just the same. I do have some issues sometimes though, like after deleting a message I'll end up receiving it again. I've been trying to figure that one out since day 1. However, I love that app either way.
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Ive pretty much resorted to "Go" for everything but launcher. Go SMS, Go contacts, Go dialer. My opinion is that its smooth, functional, and has tons of features ( Easier contact search options for dialing ect )
Tried handcent sms and I didn't like the responsiveness. I just decided to stick with the stock sms app as it is more responsive.

SMS apps with least battery usage..

I've been using Hangouts lately for SMS needs but lately, I have not been receiving a notification for every new message. I have all the default notification settings turned on and I still won't get every notification...
Essentially, I'm asking what messaging apps we all use on the HTC One that don't hog the battery. I want to change messaging apps but I feel that the popular messaging apps on the Play Store are huge battery drains with their hundreds of useless functions and features.
I'd like to use the default messaging app but I can NOT stand the 5 lines of the message editor that show up every time I go to reply to a text message. Its just a nit-picky thing, but it bothers me that it wastes all that real estate on the screen with empty space...
Can't wait to see what everybody thinks and I'll be conducting some battery tests in the days to come as well. :good:
I was using 8sms and loving it. Just moved back to android after a spell with an iPhone. Won't get my One back until May.
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I enjoy using Textra, simple, fast, light, and has all the features you'd need
If you're on kitkat, EvolveSMS looks really good with the kitkat theme though last I'd checked its interface was slightly laggy. Great app nonetheless
Does evolve sms allow mms over WiFi ?
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I'm not sure but when I tried evolve it was compressing my photos even after adjusting the mms settings. The stock mms app didn't compress the same photo
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I've been pleased with hello sms. Multiple recipient messages actually work, and it's relatively light. Best of all, it's very nicely organized.
One issue though: sending picture messages is wonky due to square reformatting. I still use the stock app for this, but changes get picked up by hello without issue.
That was my issue with hangouts. Mms was problematic most days.
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gobaers said:
I've been pleased with hello sms. Multiple recipient messages actually work, and it's relatively light. Best of all, it's very nicely organized.
One issue though: sending picture messages is wonky due to square reformatting. I still use the stock app for this, but changes get picked up by hello without issue.
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One other problem with Hello SMS is that we cannot delete individual messages from a thread. We can only delete the entire thread, not a particular message from it.

[Q] Google Hangouts vs. stock messaging app

For SMS and the like, do you use the official/stock messaging app or Google Hangouts?
Nether, I use YAATA. There is quite a bit to choose from.
I use Chomp or Textra, many more options to configure including delayed sending(if you notice you are sending to wrong person) & ability to choose multiple recipients(group text) simply
I used hangouts on my LG g2 for ages, but I haven't missed it yet on the z3c yet..... But I've only had the z3c a week haha.
Anything you guys don't like about the stock msg app in particular? Or is it mainly that the others have more options to tweak?
Was just randomly inquiring.
I'm currently using the stock messaging app and have no issues.
ajgftw said:
... Anything you guys don't like about the stock msg app in particular? Or is it mainly that the others have more options to tweak?
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I do like having a few more options but mainly I like dark themes and third party messaging apps offer those.
I use Textra myself, been quite happy with it thus far, enjoy the customization options in terms of LED and notification bubbles and sounds that you can customize per contact.
Calvinthesneak said:
I use Textra myself, been quite happy with it thus far, enjoy the customization options in terms of LED and notification bubbles and sounds that you can customize per contact.
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I was a fan of Textra early on. However, I don't understand why they continue to use their own database for sent messages. They used to only keep sent messages in their database thus preventing you from doing backups. They now copy sent messages from their database to the Android database so backups and restores work fine. If you don't mind the extra space used it is a good app. I guess they do it for performance though I don't see any difference between their app and other messaging apps.
I have a group of 50 people, and sometimes i need to send an sms to all of them.
Stock sms app cannot fulfil the job and does not have an option to keep contacts in groups after sending messages.
I have to use handcent instead.
By the way, if anyone knows a decent sms app that can overcome android sms/hour limitation please give me an advice.
Thx in advance!
Ecou81 said:
...By the way, if anyone knows a decent sms app that can overcome android sms/hour limitation please give me an advice.
Thx in advance!
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What ROM are you running? I have seen that setting in CM12. I don't believe it's an Android limitation but rather a ROM setting.
Stock 4.4.4.
I don't have the courage to install a custom rom

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