Hi,
I am using WM nfsfan's for years and i'm happy to see your community developping android for my old vogue!
I wanted to install the incubus26jc's froyo built on it but i see there is other releases of android os that have been made.
If I want an android OS that is working great with usb tethering, google market, mms, email, camera and gps which built should I choose?
Have you tried those ?
My Super FroYo Build
My Tattoo Donut Build
My Super Eclair 2.1 Build
My Super Hero Build
Thanks, hope you will be able to give me some hints
Christian
at this point i think everyone is running incubus 2.2 froyo rom, or at least most are recommending it....
had some others suggest this cyanogen mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746909
but it doesn't appear to be as up to date as the incubus rom
well what network are you on, sprint is the only one that has MMS working for Sending and Receiving
personally i always liked the cyanogen mod builds, but for a build with everything working, Hawk-SOAD/ zenulators ION Donut build is a good one
Hi,
I am on bell mobility
this cyanogen is not for the kayser? I am on a vogue
im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest
I also vote for VaniljEclair RLS11. I think the current FROYO build still has too many features not working or not working properly. See a list of issues in this forum. Eclair is also faster (I am using polaris)
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im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest
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I'll also vote for the Soad/Zenulator build. It's the only build here that would give you the kind of speed and stability that the original WinMo build had. The only downside to this build is the unavailability of some apps.
My second pick is also Vanjilla Eclair (Although I prefer version 9). Very stable, but a step slower in speed. Has most/all of the apps, though.
The Froyo build are just not there, yet. Too many lockups.
Mike
thoughtlesskyle said:
im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest
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Thanks for the excellent recap of different builds and releases. I know all the cooks and developers work their butts off giving us new life for our Vogues etc.
I am almost ready to flash to Nand, still trying to decide which build.
Ive tried em all and VaniljEclair RLS11 is the most stable "recent" build by far.
Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 is awesome if looking for a FroYo build.
I've tried just about everything. You didn't mention phone in your list of requirements. If you need reliable calls (incoming, outgoing, sms), then I would recommend Myn's Warm Donut. Every other Eclair and Froyo build has led to daily freezes and lock-ups for me.
If you don't use your phone that much, then inc's SuperFroyo is a very nice build. (RLS 10.5 was great...RLS 12 worked pretty well too).
I had various problems with SuperEclair and WarmEclair. Never really tried VanilljEclair...I know that others like it. I never really had the time to build it up with the various apps and features (like calibration, etc.) Not hard to do, just takes time.
Myn's Warm Donut is incredibly fast and stable. I miss some of the newer features and elements of Froyo, but for daily use I feel like Warm Donut works best with these older devices. (Froyo and Eclair are pushing the envelope, IMHO.)
I'd also suggest running in NoMoRootFS...using Haret off of the SD (with 2x ext2 partitions) before flashing to NAND. It would give you time to play around with the various builds. They all have their own personality...it's pretty cool, and fun to try out. There's no one size fits all. That's the beauty of an open development forum like this.
Have fun...well worth it. No matter which Android build you pick, you'll never go back to WM.
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im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
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Note, on the Vogue, as far as I can tell, both RLS2 and RLS3 of the Hawks-SOAD / Zenulator build do not have working video recording, I tested both this weekend. However, it does not force close on the camcorder, just doesn't do anything other than frustrate.
f_hugh said:
Note, on the Vogue, as far as I can tell, both RLS2 and RLS3 of the Hawks-SOAD / Zenulator build do not have working video recording, I tested both this weekend. However, it does not force close on the camcorder, just doesn't do anything other than frustrate.
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i thought that at first too but you have to use the 2-07-2010 .nbh and then they work fine
I am almost ready to Flash Android to Nand, but I can not make up my mind which build/version? I am leaning towards Cyanogen, SOAD Ion?, or Vanillaeclair.
Any suggestions at all?
One is which almost all functions are stable and working.
Just a note phantom4ever2, I am not sure if these builds have Stealth tethering like nfsfans in the wm roms. So you might want to find out first. i believe there was someone in calgary on bell that was charged something like $60,000 for using it for bittorrent or something. Nfsfan did have good touch roms though.
dsmturbo said:
I am almost ready to Flash Android to Nand, but I can not make up my mind which build/version? I am leaning towards Cyanogen, SOAD Ion?, or Vanillaeclair.
Any suggestions at all?
One is which almost all functions are stable and working.
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i started w/ incubus froyo - lots of lag was my experience
then tried soad ion and it was damn fast, but i wanted "at least a 2.1" version of android (so i thought) and i installed vanillaeclair - faster, but still some lag.
think i'm going to bite bullet and just go back to either warm donut or soad ion for this phone. just seems like 1.6 is where its at for our device.
cheers
btw, it took me -forever- of reading threads, refreshing threads waiting for updates to roms, etc before i finally installed android via nand.
once you do it you'll see it actually is nothing at all and actually quite easy!
as i have used all the previous builds, i believe the guys working on froyo have the finest product thus far. despite other user issues, i have never had a problem with messages and issues i have run into have been dealt with and resolved in a very timely manor.
good luck
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Just a note phantom4ever2, I am not sure if these builds have Stealth tethering like nfsfans in the wm roms. So you might want to find out first. i believe there was someone in calgary on bell that was charged something like $60,000 for using it for bittorrent or something. Nfsfan did have good touch roms though.
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Oh, oh, is there a way to tell which release/builds have stealth tethering?
cyburke said:
btw, it took me -forever- of reading threads, refreshing threads waiting for updates to roms, etc before i finally installed android via nand.
once you do it you'll see it actually is nothing at all and actually quite easy!
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Thank you for your input cyburke.
Yes, I have been trying everything via Haret, although I think that some of the issues using haret may disappear if I flash to nand (camera, etc)
I haven't played with Fresh Froyo at all though. Or Ion release
I am concerned though, as someone posted that perhaps these do not have 'Stealth' tethering, I would hate for Bell to come and take my house LOL
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I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
I haven't used Soulife, so maybe you don't want my opinion. It's the internet though, so I'm giving my $0.02 anyway.
I don't think anyone, Google included, is pushing Android as close to the limits of how well it can run as Cyanogen is. You don't need to be a prolific flasher either - Stick with his stable build, update when he releases a new stable. Right now that's 3.6.5, and it has been rock solid in my experience (and the majority of the users posting over in development)
apps2sd isn't required - I ran without it for awhile, switched to it when I got my new card. No real difference, other than storage space available.
HTC IME is included and runs fine.
Cyanogens rom is the fastest out there period. Also when upgrading from a previous versin of his rom to a newer one there is no need to wipe, so you don't need to reinstall all your apps.
setspeed said:
I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
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Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
lukekirstein said:
Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
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To be fair, if you read through Cyanogen's update thread ... It sounds like he hasn't really found much from ION that tweaks performance. ION's speed just comes from it being a real clean build of Android without lots of extras. Cyanogen's speed tweaks are mostly his own, with some patches from the cupcake and donut branches that haven't made it into the OTA releases.
switch to CM 3.6.5
I just did the switch a couple of days ago and I was also stand offish about apps2sd but I found the thread on how to do it in terminal emulator. It was extremely easier than I thought. The rom does the rest for you. I am constantly suprised how fast and user friendly the rom is. I even overlayed tehseano&moonsspoon hero theme over it with no problems. I am going to stay with this until I know something is better.
Just update your recovery image to 1.3.1 and then do the Nandroid backup. Run which ever rom you want and then if you use the 1.3.1 you can just reflash right back without much of any effort.
Of course you can if you want to use your PC and do the Nandroid rebuild, but thats so last month.
Heres my two cents for ya...I was put off to try apps2sd as well, figuring the same, that id hafta keep redoing everything andf messing it up and starting over...not the way it went down, dude. Not at all. I was coming from the dudes 1.3RC1 to cyanogens...i updated to cyanogen's recovery, then installed CM3.6. I booted into recovery, ran A2sd (ctl+m) and when i rebooted it was all done. I never wiped, and for the first day i had a battery glitch where it didnt wanna hold a charge very long, but after i let it charge overnight it stopped and have not had a problem in the world since. And Im still on CM3.6, also not a "prolific flasher", and i plan on staying right where im at until somebody puts out something (personally) worth flashing again. Cyanogen is controlling the "market" right now, in case noone's noticed all the ROM threads stamped with "CYANOGENIZED". His is definitely the way to go, almost all the other roms out there are somewhat based off of, or including something from his. And its not a pain in the ass like you think as long as you pay attention and make sure all your bases are covered. BACKUP YOUR STUFF!!! just in case...
-BMFC
honestly
I did a lot of comparisons on ion and byte for byte, every binary except debuggerd is identical as adp1.51 or crb43 and the only difference is the compiled time, it looks like ions debuggerd was compiled 4 minutes earlier than adp1.51's. Same thing for all the library's, only difference is libreference-ril.so which I assume has something to do with it coming from sapphire. However, there is like 6 or 7 binarys excluded from ion (I'm not at my pc so I can't tell you which ones off my head). So if you ever hear this build has dalvikvm from ion for speed you can laugh cause its identicall to the one on a stock g1.
The ion remix v1 and 1.1 is using A LOT of cyanogens goodness, I can do this cause its all google based. What you are gaining by using cyanogens is whatever new is introduced in aosp revision 2. I'm running an unreleased beta 1.2 with cyanogens .29 kernel and squashfs and it flys. You can compare his description to mine (will be updated with 1.2) but your getting a lot of the same stuff.
Take advantage of cyanogens pimped out recovery. You can backup your phone, wipe and flash and if your not happy just restore it like you never left. Take advantage of advancement. Try some other builds out to measure your likes. Just not hero, its evil.
Now that the whole Cyanogen deal happened I've been having a hard time finding the perfect donut release to follow. Any suggestions? Also what would you guys say to be the most stable Hero to be used day to day at this current time?
This is in the wrong section, but I use KingxKxKlick 1.9
Wrong section....
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
That said, CyanMod is still an excellent, stable, fast Donut build. If you're looking to try Hero, I have used about a dozen, and Kingklick's is easily the best, and since about 1.7 has been completely stable--no swap partition or cpu overclocking needed, and it's still so fast it's just disgusting.
Cyanogen is still actively developing his ROM. I would suggest following him on twitter.. @cyanogen
I would suggest that you just keep using Cyanogen. If you have too much trouble installing, just install this version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569825
In theory, once installed, you can just install Cyan's official updates when he releases them.
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5. These 3 ROM will need different and most likely customized user.conf settings. For Hero3G I found 196 swap w/100 swappiness and CC OFF works best. For Evil Hero you also need 196 swap partition.
kolyan said:
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5
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There are some that are good, but some are the best. It all depends on how it runs on your device and how you config the user.conf.
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
Cyan is my recommendation, and cyan is hinting at a very very soon update.
If you want to play with a new toy, try Motoblur, just be aware it lacks wifi.
it all depends on you. right now we have 3 working roms not including the pulse rom.
original android by cyanogen, [everything works]
hero by about 8 people (htcs own google ui), [bluetooth doesnt work, also im noticing flash doesnt either.]
blur [stable but slow, but good for social networks, no wifi]
just download the 3 different roms and test em out, dont just test one hero rom tho test em all and find what you like. but please do post in the q&a.
Wii60 said:
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
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Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
carnegie0107 said:
Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
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Oh Nice! You can use it with the normal dialer? Not through contacts?
i've been using enomther's donut rom. seems to be working very nicely. haven't used cyan's 'newest' rom because he kept saying 4.2 was around the corner and I kept waiting. Last week also said he had some updates for the .999 build and was going to add another 9, but never released it. Also enom's rom has a hero theme addon for his latest release. Whereas nabzilla is also waiting on cyan's 4.2 to release an updated theme for that.
carnegie0107 said:
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
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Dude why u being an ass u r not a moder to treat some1 with perm ban, I think they can deal with this with out.
But yea Cyans roms r good but its been running kinda slow for me so I started flashing
hero roms I tried a few and so far Mlign's worked the best for me. its something u have to find out for urself
Hey guys,
Could anyone suggest to me the fastest, most stable ROM for my G1 that doesn't run into any issues (especially from everyday use).
I've used plenty of them, mainly sourcing off Cyanogen but I seem to always get some delays especially with my phone, so many people have told me they tried ringing me but went straight to voicemail and my phone has no missed calls or anything, just sitting idle and this is a major pain.
I'm currently on the original version waiting to upgrade, is there an official Cupcake version I can download? My calls coming in quickly are more important than themes right now.
Thanks!
Im using CSDIv1....its a FAST rom. I dont have Swap enable(Sucks battery) nor 10MB Ramhack(Like my 3D apps), and still its a really fast rom.
There is only one problem with it, and its that the Keyboard is on Spanish. But you can change it just pushing a folder to the system, and voila. If you need some asistance, just ask.
I suggest the latest MghtyMax ROM. Is the fastest and stable Hero ROM I've tested.
super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
Dai323 said:
I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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i did i came from cm 4.2.14.1 and i couldnt believehow much faster it was...my weather clock widget is always right now too
@dmm0816
Nice. My new card should be here tomorrow. I ll flash tomorrow then. Hoping the higher class card will make some difference too.
Thanks for your help man.
For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
I use king's 2.3 hero rom, I only use hero roms anyway though, best normal rom I've tried, however is super d. although, cyanogen is very "noob friendly"
SJJTJJ said:
For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
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Hmm..Im curious why you say that. What makes Cyanogen more "everyday useable"? What would you actually say are the biggest differences in the 2 roms?
Really they're all apples, just different flavours. From what I've read, they all have the same bits and bites from Eclair; cyanogen's modded code (right?). I personally pick CM over everything else because the community support for CM is a larger, more discussion. Of course, this doesn't mean the other ones are inferior. You should try them all for like a day or two. Wipe before you try a new one, so you can tell which one really works best.
2.1 Roms on the other hand I think need more work. Not all the drivers work yet. I tried OpenEclair and I felt a bit handicap compared to the 1.6 Roms. Also, for me at least, it didn't feel as fast as the 1.6 Roms. Good roms but need more work.
I was running Cyonogen for some time and I was pleased but I love to experiment. For the last 2 weeks I've been testing the 2.1 ASOP roms out from King(1.5) and Enclair (1.15). Both are great builds but I prefer the customization in enclair more and both are fairly stable. I was having the issue of texts getting deleted and the Rom's just seemed like they were not as quick as I wanted them to be. I enjoyed the new layout but I was finally just frustrated with overall performance and I keep reading about the Super D build. I wiped my phone and threw it on few hours ago and WOW! It is blazing fast and very stable from what I can see so far. I've tried some apps out that were proving difficult before and just wow I am amazed. This build may be on the 1.6 based side but I am glad to have performance back over some "prettyness". I may try the 2.1 builds again but I will wait for all of the kinks to work out. So my opinion is hands down Super D ( I believe it was 1.8 v) is the best build available right when looking at overall performance and stability. I love it! Made my day!
*on a side note*
I could never get Youtube to install and work with the enclair ASOP 2.1 builds, it was very frustrating as you cannot download the app from the app store and issues installing manually via the APK.
I found AmonRa 1.6.3 to be the fastest and stable ROM, in my opinion
Rgds
I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
GoodRevrnd said:
I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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In my experience, 1.6 will always be snappier then 2.0/2.1 builds; at least for now. Our G1s don't exactly have a huge amount of space to store bigger ROMs. Really having 2.1 isn't necessary but it does have some nice features that 1.6 doesn't have. Like ability to have multiple google accounts and facebook sync. I can't really think of anything else of the top of my head but I'm sure there are at least a few others.
One thing people haven't gotten to work on 2.1 ROMs for G1, is the video camera. Camera works though on most 2.1 ROMs now (all?). The new contacts display for 2.1 is nice but even laggier then the one used in 1.6 ROMs. Can't think of anything else, someone help!
Basically, 2.1 has a lot more STUFF in general. Whether you need this extra stuff is up to you, because STUFF needs more RAM stuff, and G1 is low in that department.
My opinion:
MghtyMax 1.9.1 is veeeery fast!!! (with Swap, SetCpu and all that stuff, of course)
I like any of the Roms from King's collection and I like Super-D verry much too. Cyanogen's rom has a larger community cause that's normally what people hear when learning about rooting and stuff. I only used Cyan when I compared Enom to Cyan and Enom's was faster and everything was great.Super-D is faster than Cyan but seems slower than Enom's, Cyan has the eclair stuff just like Super-D. But I think its up to what you like you cant let others decide cause their perception of speed is diff from yours.
Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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I just actually read about that rom, and it seems good. What makes me wonder though, is that some people say its faster than Super D. How could it actually be faster, as this rom is more or less just Super D with a theme installed? Surely, having the theme installed would decrease performance buy a little bit, vs increase it.
But what do I know
Edit: Ok, Im stupid. as Fast Test doesnt have the Eclaire stuff, thats where a performance increase would come. **slams head on keyboard**
Super D, hands down. No rom even comes close.
And Fast Test 2.3 IS Super D, just with a theme, so unless you want that specific theme, there's no point in getting Fast Test, when Super D is available.
I have tried all the following, and so far Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 works best for me...
(all the newer bells & whistles - yet still functional features like camera, Bluetooth, etc.)
Anyone have some recommendations on what they use, what's quick, yet functional for them?
(FroYo wasn't ready when Poll was made - that's why it's not on the list) ;-)
Please vote above to see what others are running...
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Froyo Builds
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Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310
Dzo's Fresh Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710105
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Eclair Builds
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Vanilj's Eclair (Odexed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700669
Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair 2.1 (Odexed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670240
Myn’s Warm Eclair (Odexed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691174
Incubus26Jc's SuperE Cyanogenmod Eclair
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699733
Myn’s Warm Eclair
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691174
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Donut Builds
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Dzo's Odex'd Donut
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694597
Incubus26Jc's Sense Tattoo Donut
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692447
Myn’s Warm Donut
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
I tried all Eclair you mentioned.
It's definitely, KK's Vanilj Eclair.
It doesn't have bells or whistles but you can selectively add them.
DZO's odexed donut. works amazing, fastest build I've used yet
My take on the available odex'd Eclair builds after installing all of them:
Myn's Warm Eclair RLS1: It's functional and fast out of the box, but it seems like it slows down after a few days. Biggest annoyances are dialer/messaging being slow for me.
Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair 2.1: Fast out of the gate and stays fast. Few glitches/bugs due to the additional stuff added, but if you need a build with some goodies use this one.
VaniljEclair RLS6: Fast, stable, and functional. If you don't mind having a bare minimum Android install go with this one.
Fastest is Myn's eclair. But I voted for Myn's donut. Being fast doesn't mean being stable. As for me, sometimes being stable is more important than being fast. I hate that some android builds skip my phone calls, or freeze if someone calls me while I listening to pandora etc. There is a lot of bugs still. Right now everyone concentrated on speed... what's the purpose of speed, if device is buggy? I'd like to see more STABLE and well-tested builds rather than fastest.
Take my word for it, I have tried many. nothing compares to DZO's odexed donut.
Every phone might be a little different, but I have yet to hear anyone complain about performance on DZOs odexed donut.
It might not have all the flash and frills of the other builds, but it is the most reliable and by far the fastest. At least that has been my experience.
Myn's donut is what I use. I odexed it myself. Works great.
Didn't try DZO's Donut, but it is so obvious that Donut is faster than Eclair on Vogue!
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Take my word for it, I have tried many. nothing compares to DZO's odexed donut.
Every phone might be a little different, but I have yet to hear anyone complain about performance on DZOs odexed donut.
It might not have all the flash and frills of the other builds, but it is the most reliable and by far the fastest. At least that has been my experience.
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I second this. After trying froyo for a week, I couldn't take the slowness. Dzo build is so much faster. I hope gmail sync is fixed in donut.
I haven't done much, since I only run from an SD Card I expect the slowness. But as far as STABILITY goes (my biggest concern - I don't want my phone locking up on me all the time) I think Myn's Warm Donut has treated me the best so far.
NuAngel
you are forgetting one- FROYO.
incubis and dzo are putting out the releases faster than i can flash em- and they are doing nothing but getting better and better- IMO froyo is the best thus far
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you are forgetting one- FROYO.
incubis and dzo are putting out the releases faster than i can flash em- and they are doing nothing but getting better and better- IMO froyo is the best thus far
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I second Froyo... Some of the builds have been shaky, but the custard crew has really got it hummin on the lastest builds. I'm running the odexed July 3rd version and I'm lovin it!
+++ For Froyo.. By far the best, fastest, most stable.. And a very clean install to build on.. A+ all the way
I'm going back to windows unless I can figure out wifi and usb tether soon, I have used Incubus froyo, dzo froyo, myn warm donut.
Wifi won't start at all, I have had very limited success tethering with a market app (it's VERY slow).
I just thought I would say this because there is nobody able to help me and I just assumed tethering would work with android natively, but it does not.
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+++ For Froyo.. By far the best, fastest, most stable.. And a very clean install to build on.. A+ all the way
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Is the current Froyo faster than Dzo's donut? I found Super Froyo RLS7 to be much slower than Dzo's donut. Has the incoming call delay been fixed on Froyo?
Which Froyo build are you all running? lol
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Is the current Froyo faster than Dzo's donut? I found Super Froyo RLS7 to be much slower than Dzo's donut. Has the incoming call delay been fixed on Froyo?
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Since nobody answered, I tested the Super Froyo RLS9 myself and compared it with Dzo's donut.
1. RLS9 is significantly faster than RLS7.
2. RLS9 is noticeably slower than Dzo's donut. (For example, it takes extra ring for the phone to actually ring. App opens slower.)
3. Froyo looks prettier than donut.
I would like to try dzo's donut release listed in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694597
Can someone please let me know which zImage and initrd.gz to use?
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I'm going back to windows unless I can figure out wifi and usb tether soon, I have used Incubus froyo, dzo froyo, myn warm donut.
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go back then, it really isnt just a natively built-in feature the usb driver needs to be troubleshot and rewritten, if its that big of an issue for you ask dzo or one of the other devs what you need to get started with fixing it.
but if you dont want to do that switch back to windows mobile, because our devs are working their butts off to bring froyo to us so dont make it sound like nobody is trying to fix things.
Tethering works just fine for me in Myn's donut and now DZO's donut that I am currently running. I am running PDAnet and have used both SD automount and SD dual mount. I have read that not using a dualmount/automount program can cause issues with tethering. Hope it helps.
I installed Cyanogen Mod 6.1 Magpie on my HTC G1 Dream.
Almost all applications are installed on the SD Ext partition.
It's deadly slow. I can't bare it.
Do you have a better, faster, more stable ROM to suggest?
I need SD Ext partition support.
I crawled the forum, but I am new to Android and feel lost.
I am now good with adb, rom partitionning and rom flashing though.
I always wipe everything before flashing (including system).
Give me your best advise please.
I really think that froyobylaszlo is the best. Stable and very fast ROM =)
Latest version of EzGingerbread is excellent and stable as a rock (I have been using it for a couple of weeks now). Also pretty fast and great battery life. On 2G I am almost getting 2 days out of it.
It has the latest Gingerbread version and Ezterry is still around to support the rom.
froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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Depends also much on your requirements. FbL will run smooth without the "RAM-hack", i.e. installing the 0013d/2708 combo. Running EzGingerbread without it will be a pain, but if you install that combo, it runs very very well. I think it compares well to the original 1.6, but having much more features
froyobylazslo and ezginbread are by far my two most favorite roms, but you will have some lags with either one here and there. so if this bothers you you'll have to go back to eclair or donut to get the absolute best speed on a g1. just remember you will be missing out on a ton if you do this! so i say try them both and hope the lags wont be to much to bare.
Thats a coincidence, because I have been playing with my Dreams and flashing a bunch of oldies but goodies. Last week I flashed CM 6 Magpie - same as yours. I flash ohsaka super wipe before flashing magpie. but the first thing I do after it boots is 1. enable nonmarket apps and 2. go to cyanogenmod settings and allow for application moving automatically and then 3. install root explorer, go to system/app and wipe out all the junk all wallpapers, youtube gmail email everything just keep the bare minimum and at the end I have like 6 apps to play with then it is a very workable ROM, and also install cache for root and enable to clear every hour - and it has been running nice and simple ever since. Granted its not my daily driver, but anyway Fierat really made a big difference with magpie...
Froyo is weird on the G1. Gingerbread is much more natural you just have to get creative with which apps you install. EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
But my absolute most favorite ROM ever for the G1 is SuperBad by htcClay and 2nd is SuperE by Buchacher. Those are the best roms when you are actually using it as a daily driver.
Although I did manage with The Dudes Cupcake for almost 6 months as my work phone, and its all a matter of how committed you are to seeing it through.
FroyobyLaszlo is the most capable Froyo Rom for the G1 for me. But I really never liked Froyo, it was only a short period of time in between CM5 and CM7 which blew away CM6.
I recommend my froyo rom. Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
It (unlike fbl, cm6, and other roms froyo or lower) is still getting updates. And ive recently started caring about security do expect changes soonish
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Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
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That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
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AndDiSa said:
That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
Sent from my Gingerbread on Dream using XDA App
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true that! I have found that EzGingerbread 1.0 to be probably the fastest/most stable rom I have tried (If you set it up the way it says in the thread and install the older versions of facebook and maps as suggested). SuperE was not bad but not my favorite. I would avoid Froyo roms. I have never has one run well, including the official T-Moble for MT3G OTA update.
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EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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I used it from one of the early alphas (the first one with autokerkel) and I've had a similar experience. There were bugs in early builds (if you didnt expect that, you must be crazy), bit I've had no problems with it. Was my daily for most of the time I used my mytouch
DREAMTeam Froyo is a best ROM.
DREAMTeam Froyo by TVall is best. I have been using with Titanium backup and ext2 and with custom mtd
Froyobylaszlo and GingerYoshi are the best
According to my experience Froyobylaszlo is the best for performance but I ended up using GingerYoshi because it has all languages supported (Arabic in my case). So if you only need English go ahead with Froyobylaszlo but if you want another language you might want to check if it's included first. EzGingerBread does not include all languages either. GingerYoshi's performance is not bad at all if you use LauncherPro and it includes all language packs.
Laszlo's release is pretty buggy from my experience. I would stick to one of the many gingerbread releases, dream team froyo, or my ROM after I can get out the next alpha.
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Forgetting about the classic biffmod2.1 rom that thing is grate. Its a dead rom nut it died stable and grate
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I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
FroyobyLazlo 5.2 hands down is the Best CM6 Rom.
CM7 Magpie is the best CM7 Rom.
I don't use AOSP Roms, but they'll always have the best speed. Also most free Ram.
Personally FBL, with a Gingerbread Theme. Ext4. All apps to SD, and Use the lastest Froyo Kernel. But FBL has crazy speed with it's kernel, but it's reboots every couple of hours.
Mt debloated Cm7.1 Rom GingerbreadbyNomy (RC1) With the latest GB kernel is worth trying. I'm not saying it's the fastest, but it has like 75% free Ram.
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I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
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Of course 1.6 will always be fast.. the G1 isn't meant to run anything over that
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In my opinion donut ROMS (Superd 1.11 with Elegance (BETA) 1.1.1 theme) are the best for daily ROM, you can have "heavy" apps running on background without missing sms, fc's, random reboots, lags, incoming call instantly, etc. but if you want the newest features ezGingerbread it's the best for me and your G1 will have around 30mb of free ram every time