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What is the best/most stable Eclair ROM?

Since I'm not to inclined to buy a Nexus One I was wondering what would be best for getting Eclair on my G1. I see the OpenEclair Beta 2, a JAC Eclair ROM, and a KingKlick Eclair ROM. I'm sure all of these have their merits but I can't seem to find a decent comparison. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

For Me riite Now Is KingKlick : So just try it =D

I would agree with above in terms of stability. If you want to have one that's more customizable, get openeclaire.
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Oh and manup 1.6 is pretty nice too.

Yep the community rom is the most stable and fast for me atm, May not be feature loaded like the others but still best for everyday use

im using bbuchacher's SuperD 1.7
its amazingly fast and very stable for me. go check out the thread... its my everyday rom for now

rlee008 said:
im using bbuchacher's SuperD 1.7
its amazingly fast and very stable for me. go check out the thread... its my everyday rom for now
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He's asking for an eclair rom, but don't tell anybody

I am on JAC's 1.1 right now and loving it. Fast and stable for me.

kings is the best get overclockwidget and droid swapper.
528 on
128 screen off
swap 96mb
swappiness at 80
oh and class 6 sd card too.
it blows any cyanogen away and runs as fast if not just a bit faster than superd 1.7

I'm actually using Intension Eclair 1.3.2 (pre-OpenEclair).
Main reason I decided to use it over the others is because i don't want to partition my SD card to swap with ext2/3/4 or whatever it is
Pretty fast and stable for me and its been an everyday ROM since Beta 4

I've decided to go with JAC 1.1. Thanks for helping me out. Now, to find a theme...

Check out my Blue_Haze ROM. I take no real claim to this, thought I did build and compile quite a bit of it, I really only followed what other, more skilled devs did (mainly JAC and CTSO). It is a mix of nice features from eclair ROMs, which I have made work very nice together. It is fast, stable, and I have had no complaints.

ianandamy said:
kings is the best get overclockwidget and droid swapper.
528 on
128 screen off
swap 96mb
swappiness at 80
oh and class 6 sd card too.
it blows any cyanogen away and runs as fast if not just a bit faster than superd 1.7
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bold, bold statement. any body want to confirm this?

i prefer jacrom 1.1.1 with the dark theme. (its on his site at justanotherdev.slackdev.com)
2nd is openeclair

It's not as fast as a donut rom. By blow away, if he means the interface, then yes, because 2.1 is a nicer interface than donut. I don't agree with the statement that it's as fast as superd.

What Rom Goes With Me? Help

I Want A Rom That Goes Fast.I Want An Eclair But I Want Camera/video To Work

All eclair ROMs are slow, you just can't make them 'fast'. FroYo is running almost as fast as Donut for me.

AdrianK said:
All eclair ROMs are slow, you just can't make them 'fast'. FroYo is running almost as fast as Donut for me.
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Have you tried Chromatic 3.8? That's definitely not slow at all.
Ill admit Donut roms are more fast than Eclair roms though.

AdrianK said:
All eclair ROMs are slow, you just can't make them 'fast'. FroYo is running almost as fast as Donut for me.
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I would beg to differ. Eclair roms are fine mostly, it's just that the default Eclair launcher is slow as molasses. SpeedTeam's Eclair for example, which comes with LauncherPro, is massively fast in navigating around, even faster imo than Donut.
OP try out SpeedTeam's Eclair

hTc WildFire

The roms are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703655
the wildfire is similar to our vogue in size
Maybe someone can port it

Looks interesting...
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/wildfire/specification.html
Comes with Eclair and has a 240x320 QVGA screen

it will be like a native rom to vogue

FroYo sense at native resolution? Sounds awesome.

TheKartus said:
FroYo sense at native resolution? Sounds awesome.
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no not froyo just eclaire 2.1

Here is an extracted and unpacked system.img if someone is interested in porting:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rwgwo7ddnpn712s

i have it ported, im just trying to work out some of the kinks. It will be ext2 200mb system.

Too Fast!!!
incubus26jc said:
i have it ported, im just trying to work out some of the kinks. It will be ext2 200mb system.
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You sir are way too fast!

incubus26jc said:
i have it ported, im just trying to work out some of the kinks. It will be ext2 200mb system.
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will it be able to run at 240x320?

jadenj5 said:
will it be able to run at 240x320?
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yes it does. Its nice too. Cant wait to get it out for you guys. Still trying to fix audio problems, and a few others. It will hopefully be out as soon as i can work some of the problems out of it.
It will look just like this

incubus26jc said:
yes it does. Its nice too. Cant wait to get it out for you guys. Still trying to fix audio problems, and a few others. It will hopefully be out as soon as i can work some of the problems out of it.
It will look just like this
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im almost as excited to see this as i was froyo probably not going to be as smooth with sense and all but still looks great

incubus, as much as its great to have the latest OS (froyo) on our trusty old vogues, its starting to feel like running windows vista on my old celeron. Meaning maybe FROYO and all its capabilites are weighing us down. Maybe Froyo is just not fully optimized yet. How is the speed of this rom relative to the ROM you and DZO are putting out?

nickel911 said:
incubus, as much as its great to have the latest OS (froyo) on our trusty old vogues, its starting to feel like running windows vista on my old celeron. Meaning maybe FROYO and all its capabilites are weighing us down. Maybe Froyo is just not fully optimized yet. How is the speed of this rom relative to the ROM you and DZO are putting out?
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That's pretty much the impression I get when I run froyo, which is why it's so hard for me to give up donut. If I had a copy of eclair with improved performance, though, I would jump ship in a minute!
Sent from my Sprint Vogue with Myn's odexed Warm Donut

Hmmm... I'm surprised you're finding Froyo slow - for me it's as snappy as Donut if not even faster on the Vogue. Regardless it's nice to have this ROM from a native 320x240 device to try out.
nickel911 said:
incubus, as much as its great to have the latest OS (froyo) on our trusty old vogues, its starting to feel like running windows vista on my old celeron. Meaning maybe FROYO and all its capabilites are weighing us down. Maybe Froyo is just not fully optimized yet. How is the speed of this rom relative to the ROM you and DZO are putting out?
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Plemen, which NBH and build are you using? I've been using Myn's Odexed Warm Donut for a while, and before that I used DZO's Odexed Donut for a bit. Every week or so, I back up my Donut and test out the newest Froyo iteration, and the speed difference is pretty drastic. From my experience, it is about as fast as Eclair, but in no way as fast as Donut.
However, I would LOVE to be wrong. If I have just been using a buggy Froyo build and /or NBH, and the thing is actually really fast, I will so be there!

NICE!
I would love to have a faster sense available for my Vogue just for tampering.. But hands down Froyo is by far the fastest release for my phone. It even beats the NFSFAN Winmo rom that I use sometimes (just for pocketufo). Warm Donut was great but I havent found a single reason to stray from Froyo. While ive had some issues with rls 11 and 12.. rls 10 has been nothing short of amazing for me

hexalot said:
I would love to have a faster sense available for my Vogue just for tampering.. But hands down Froyo is by far the fastest release for my phone. It even beats the NFSFAN Winmo rom that I use sometimes (just for pocketufo). Warm Donut was great but I havent found a single reason to stray from Froyo. While ive had some issues with rls 11 and 12.. rls 10 has been nothing short of amazing for me
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Which NBH are you using for RLS 10?

Dassin4 said:
Which NBH are you using for RLS 10?
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I'm using the latest 240x320 nbh and latest build from dzo:
nbh:
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/voguimg-240x320-froyo-26-07-10.nbh
build:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/system-froyo-26-07-10_16.tgz/download
There are minor issues here and there but dzo has been super quick dealing with things as they come up.
Of course incubus's build is really nice as well.

plemen said:
I'm using the latest 240x320 nbh and latest build from dzo:
nbh:
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/voguimg-240x320-froyo-26-07-10.nbh
build:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/system-froyo-26-07-10_16.tgz/download
There are minor issues here and there but dzo has been super quick dealing with things as they come up.
Of course incubus's build is really nice as well.
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Sorry for being a noob, but how would I go about installing this on my Wildfire? Is there a guide somewhere?

Trism said:
Sorry for being a noob, but how would I go about installing this on my Wildfire? Is there a guide somewhere?
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Absolutely NO! dzo's nbh files are only for vogue/kaiser/polaris/nike. This thread is about porting wildfire rom to our devices.

[Q] By now, which built is the most stable?

Hi,
I am using WM nfsfan's for years and i'm happy to see your community developping android for my old vogue!
I wanted to install the incubus26jc's froyo built on it but i see there is other releases of android os that have been made.
If I want an android OS that is working great with usb tethering, google market, mms, email, camera and gps which built should I choose?
Have you tried those ?
My Super FroYo Build
My Tattoo Donut Build
My Super Eclair 2.1 Build
My Super Hero Build
Thanks, hope you will be able to give me some hints
Christian

at this point i think everyone is running incubus 2.2 froyo rom, or at least most are recommending it....
had some others suggest this cyanogen mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746909
but it doesn't appear to be as up to date as the incubus rom

well what network are you on, sprint is the only one that has MMS working for Sending and Receiving
personally i always liked the cyanogen mod builds, but for a build with everything working, Hawk-SOAD/ zenulators ION Donut build is a good one

Hi,
I am on bell mobility

this cyanogen is not for the kayser? I am on a vogue

im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest

I also vote for VaniljEclair RLS11. I think the current FROYO build still has too many features not working or not working properly. See a list of issues in this forum. Eclair is also faster (I am using polaris)

thoughtlesskyle said:
im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest
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I'll also vote for the Soad/Zenulator build. It's the only build here that would give you the kind of speed and stability that the original WinMo build had. The only downside to this build is the unavailability of some apps.
My second pick is also Vanjilla Eclair (Although I prefer version 9). Very stable, but a step slower in speed. Has most/all of the apps, though.
The Froyo build are just not there, yet. Too many lockups.
Mike

thoughtlesskyle said:
im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
2. its a very clean build, your not going to find too many extra apps
3. it has the Android APN instead of the T-mobile APN so if your on a CDMA network you can easily set up MMS for your carrier
Warm donut is a themed version of that build.
if your looking for the Bleeding Edge for vogue Dev
incubus' Super Froyo releases are awesome, there are a few issues they are attempting to sort out like the device freezing on system resume. Fresh Froyo is built off the same tree but there are no google apps.
cyanogen mod 6 ports are still froyo, and have a few of the same issues
both of these are stable for Daily use though
Vanjilla eclair is my Eclair build of choice,
its clean and fast but again no camcorder.
sense/ hero builds are nice but the have to be put on a EXT2 partition of your card for 2.1 builds, the tattoo sense has been known to have a short battery life and none of the hero/sense builds have Bluetooth. They also are very heavy on the system so they might not always be the snappiest
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Thanks for the excellent recap of different builds and releases. I know all the cooks and developers work their butts off giving us new life for our Vogues etc.
I am almost ready to flash to Nand, still trying to decide which build.

Ive tried em all and VaniljEclair RLS11 is the most stable "recent" build by far.
Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 is awesome if looking for a FroYo build.

I've tried just about everything. You didn't mention phone in your list of requirements. If you need reliable calls (incoming, outgoing, sms), then I would recommend Myn's Warm Donut. Every other Eclair and Froyo build has led to daily freezes and lock-ups for me.
If you don't use your phone that much, then inc's SuperFroyo is a very nice build. (RLS 10.5 was great...RLS 12 worked pretty well too).
I had various problems with SuperEclair and WarmEclair. Never really tried VanilljEclair...I know that others like it. I never really had the time to build it up with the various apps and features (like calibration, etc.) Not hard to do, just takes time.
Myn's Warm Donut is incredibly fast and stable. I miss some of the newer features and elements of Froyo, but for daily use I feel like Warm Donut works best with these older devices. (Froyo and Eclair are pushing the envelope, IMHO.)
I'd also suggest running in NoMoRootFS...using Haret off of the SD (with 2x ext2 partitions) before flashing to NAND. It would give you time to play around with the various builds. They all have their own personality...it's pretty cool, and fun to try out. There's no one size fits all. That's the beauty of an open development forum like this.
Have fun...well worth it. No matter which Android build you pick, you'll never go back to WM.

thoughtlesskyle said:
im still going to reccomend the Hawks-SOAD/ Zenulator build
it might only be a donut build but it has a few advantages,
1. its camera and video camera are both working, in eclair and froyo only the camera is working.
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Note, on the Vogue, as far as I can tell, both RLS2 and RLS3 of the Hawks-SOAD / Zenulator build do not have working video recording, I tested both this weekend. However, it does not force close on the camcorder, just doesn't do anything other than frustrate.

f_hugh said:
Note, on the Vogue, as far as I can tell, both RLS2 and RLS3 of the Hawks-SOAD / Zenulator build do not have working video recording, I tested both this weekend. However, it does not force close on the camcorder, just doesn't do anything other than frustrate.
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i thought that at first too but you have to use the 2-07-2010 .nbh and then they work fine

I am almost ready to Flash Android to Nand, but I can not make up my mind which build/version? I am leaning towards Cyanogen, SOAD Ion?, or Vanillaeclair.
Any suggestions at all?
One is which almost all functions are stable and working.

Just a note phantom4ever2, I am not sure if these builds have Stealth tethering like nfsfans in the wm roms. So you might want to find out first. i believe there was someone in calgary on bell that was charged something like $60,000 for using it for bittorrent or something. Nfsfan did have good touch roms though.

dsmturbo said:
I am almost ready to Flash Android to Nand, but I can not make up my mind which build/version? I am leaning towards Cyanogen, SOAD Ion?, or Vanillaeclair.
Any suggestions at all?
One is which almost all functions are stable and working.
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i started w/ incubus froyo - lots of lag was my experience
then tried soad ion and it was damn fast, but i wanted "at least a 2.1" version of android (so i thought) and i installed vanillaeclair - faster, but still some lag.
think i'm going to bite bullet and just go back to either warm donut or soad ion for this phone. just seems like 1.6 is where its at for our device.
cheers

btw, it took me -forever- of reading threads, refreshing threads waiting for updates to roms, etc before i finally installed android via nand.
once you do it you'll see it actually is nothing at all and actually quite easy!

as i have used all the previous builds, i believe the guys working on froyo have the finest product thus far. despite other user issues, i have never had a problem with messages and issues i have run into have been dealt with and resolved in a very timely manor.
good luck

spuzzum said:
Just a note phantom4ever2, I am not sure if these builds have Stealth tethering like nfsfans in the wm roms. So you might want to find out first. i believe there was someone in calgary on bell that was charged something like $60,000 for using it for bittorrent or something. Nfsfan did have good touch roms though.
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Oh, oh, is there a way to tell which release/builds have stealth tethering?

cyburke said:
btw, it took me -forever- of reading threads, refreshing threads waiting for updates to roms, etc before i finally installed android via nand.
once you do it you'll see it actually is nothing at all and actually quite easy!
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Thank you for your input cyburke.
Yes, I have been trying everything via Haret, although I think that some of the issues using haret may disappear if I flash to nand (camera, etc)
I haven't played with Fresh Froyo at all though. Or Ion release
I am concerned though, as someone posted that perhaps these do not have 'Stealth' tethering, I would hate for Bell to come and take my house LOL

Eclair, Froyo, or Gingerbread for speed?

My wife has CM6 on her G1 and it works fine, though it feels sluggish and apps take a little bit to respond. I've tried several Froyo roms and CM6 seems to be the best of the bunch, but I want to find her something more responsive. Is CM7 even worth considering? Common sense suggests it would be even more sluggish since the sys reqs are higher, but I've read some people saying it's faster. And in any event, is it generally true that an Eclair-based rom (like CM 5.0.8?) is going to be faster than any Froyo rom?
Thanks guys!

Donut is the fastest, but Eclair is good for both stability and speed. The older builds are generally more optimized, faster, and have less functions (trade off).

As always ... it depends. For me CM6.1 was faster than any CM5 I had on my phone, probably even faster than the 1.6 stock donut. But there is also the difference that for the newer ROMs you can increase the size of the RAM available, which helps very much. So you have the choice ...
Sent from my Gingerbread on Sapphire using XDA App

For me FROYO is having good responce...with official AOSP 2.2 from ezterry.
but if you like eclair go for Superbad 1.7 from htcclay the best one for eclair.

Hmmm. I may be on a fool's errand but I'm trying to see if there's a Tom for the G1 that will make it feel like my Nexus One. Should I stop trying?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Try Froyo by Laszlo, its quite fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929678

As I said on your other post, SparksMod 2.1 has been the best to me.