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Hi Guys,
I've got the O2 XDAIIi with TomTom6 installed and working fine aside from one thing, if I leave the phone on (flight mode OFF) whilst I use TomTom for my Sat-Nav the phone will crash, everything just hangs and I can't get anything working without a soft reset, this only tends to happen at certain geographic locations so I don't know if it's when the phone switches to a different antenna.
When I use TomTom with the phone off (flight mode ON) it works flawlessly.
I've had a chat with TomTom but the only thing they can suggest is that I just turn flight mode on when I'm using TomTom, this solution is all well and good but if it means that I can't receive any calls whilst I'm driving (don't worry I use a bluetooth handsfree kit)
Has anyone else experienced this problem and know of a solution?
Regards
Will
i've had the exact opposite - XDA2i with TT6 and a BlueTooth GPS receiver works perfect when flight mode is off - put it on to STOP calls and the GPS doesn't work
No idea about the solution - I just leave it on. Maybe check which Rom you are running
Stuart
If you enable flight mode it turns off anything that is wireless (including bluetooth) so that it doesn't interfere with equipment etc. This explains your loss of bluetooth connection to your GPS
I have read of a flightmode bluetooth workaround on John's Reviews
Thanks for replying guys but I'm using a cable GPS receiver not a bluetooth one.
Any ideas what I can do to sort it?
Regards
Will
NO GPS DEVICE - TomTom SatNav on XDA IIi
Guys and Gals,
All you need to do if using a cabled GPS receiver, is as follows
START >
SETTINGS >
CONNECTIONS tab >
BEAM >
Untick the receive all incoming beams,
The IR receiver and GPS receiver both use COM1.
Problem Solved....! Neil
Thanks Neil but this isn't the fix for my problem, I already know that the IR and the physical connection share the same COM port and the IR needs to be disabled before a device is found but this isn't the problem. The issue is with TomTom hanging the device during useage when the mobile aerial is turned on - IE. Not in Flight Mode. It seems that TomTom will only reliably work when I use it with Flight Mode turned ON.
I connect my alpine to the gps receiver, but after few minutes, the conenction drops. I have not figured any problems with my bt hansfree.
Can anyone help??
turn off bluetooth
dropped connection
I have a similar problem . Alpine and BN806F , It pairs , wont talk then drops out ? I wonder if there is a time out after no activity ?
As my post says I am having a problem getting tom tom to see my gps reciever , do you have the some problem ? what am I doing wrong ?
Astro1
I downloaded a bt patch but the problem remains. I wonder whether it's a software or hardware problem..
Yes, I can't make my navigation program to see the gps receiver and after a while it gets disconnected...
To the OP - you said you cant get your navigation software 'see' the GPS - this is the root of the problem.
If your BT GPS unit doesnt see any requests to send data to the PDA, it will auto-switch off after a set period of time.
Once you can successfully configure your nav software to receive the GPS data, your bluetooth GPS unit will remain powered on.
You should have a software CD that came with the GPS unit (if not there are a number of freely downloadable GPS utilites for PDAs, some of which can scan for the unit to find it)- there's usually some very low-quality GPS checking utility that displays what satellites the unit can see, signal strength and so on: try using these programs to see if you can connect to your GPS, and if the unit than keeps the BT link open.
Maybe finding out which COM port the GPS unit appears on, will allow you to configure your nav software correctly to see the GPS.
Joe Pinball
I managed to connect it succesfully some times. Usually, it connects via bluetooth but it drops until I load navigator ( my navigation program). When I close the program, the bluetooth is off. I tried to search windows for power save settings but I didn't find something that would help.
GPS problems
Joe
Thanks for your advice I am still haviong big problems .
I have managed to get Tom tom to recognise a wired reciever ( but only once , and then when the cigarete lighter plug moved the unit powered down all was lost.
Do you know of any utilities that will show what is connected to what port as I believe this is the real problem . Aparently tom tom has a bad history of hijacking ports ?
It would be good to see what was actually going on .
Astro1
I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??
First off, are you sure you really need to use the Bluetooth adapter for GPS? After all, it comes with a built in one... I'll show you my config to get an idea:
GPS Receiver - Other NMEA GPS receiver
COM Port - 4
Baud Rate - 9600
I recommend you download and run GPS Test if you haven't already. This will tell you what Baud rate and COM port you should be running on.
In regards to your bluetooth Headset, are you sure you're following the correct process for pairing the device? I remember setting mine up, it was a nightmare... until i read the instruction
I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.
Lalla said:
I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??
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Firstly - have you got a TyTn or a TyTn II (AKA Kaiser)? As another poster says, why are you using bluetooth for GPS. The TyTn II has GPS built in!!!
Again as said above if it's a Kaiser you have use "other NMEA" as the device not bluetooth.
If Tomtom says "No valid signal" then it has found a GPS device but is waiting for a strong enough signal. The first time you set up it may take a long time to connect. Leave it in a place with a clear view of the sky. It will also help if you have run Quick GPS from your programs menu.
Mike
edd1e said:
I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.
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Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike
mikechannon said:
Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike
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Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?
edd1e said:
Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?
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Actually, that sounds like it's working OK. You will notice that the Kaiser picks up and drops sats every other second. There is a thread about this someplace. In other words as you move around the sat signal will pick up and drop sats as you move (even if you are standing still) When using Tomtom or the like this does not seem to matter and it works very well.
I have found that when you first switch on the GPS make sure you have a clear view of the sky all around, then you can move to more obscured areas and it will hold a proportion of the signal. If you switch on in an obscured area, then it will take a while to acquire a fix. Running Quick GPS regularly will speed things up.
As a guide, if I switch on indoors it can take ten minutes even near a window. In the car it fixes in less than a minute (normally).
The exception is if I last switched off GPS some miles from my current location. It seems it remembers the sats position from when it was last used so if you switch on later some miles away, it takes longer - presumably 'cos it's looking in slightly the wrong place.
Mike
Ok, I'm trying GPS test right now, seems to working. Thanks for your help.
Any clue why my bluetooth headset doesn't work right? Their paired and the phone recognizes it, but I can't use it in a call.
Thanx for all the help from you all!
I've managed to fix the settings for my GPS so it works fine. But the problem with my Bluetooth is still there...but I won't give up!
go to youre bluetooth devices, find your bluetooth headset from the list and tap it. now check and see if both boxes are ticked, the stereo headset and the handsfree. now go back to the list and long tap on the bluetooth headset and set it to handsfree. that should sort it. if not try repairing it
Didn't work for me. My bluetooth headset only gives me a hands free options but it does not work. I tried it on another phone and it works fine.
http://www.xperiadepot.com/freedom-keychain-gps-2000/10A95A2869.htm
There are no good description for this product. Does anyone know what they do?
I think this is an ordinary gps modul and description made by someone who does not know there is already a gps receiver built-in in X1.
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
Feezer said:
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
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Right but the description confuses me and it does sound exactly like what jabe said. But I would so buy this if it was key finder.
It just a bluetooth GPS module that fits on a key chain. You don't need it as the X1 already has a built in GPS chip. If you had a smartphone without a GPS chip, then there's be some benefit to it.
Or if you wanted to use GPS stuff on a laptop or something with BT etc.
Suppose your X1 is positioned in your car that way that the GPS reception is bad but you cannot relocate it. You can set it up to receive GPS signals from this external module. The module itself can be put anywhere like near a window or on the car's roof or so.
WTF? Did you even read? "The Freedom Keychain GPS 2000 is the world’s lightest and most compact pocket GPS receiver."
It's an external GPS receiver.
gps is receiving only!
you pick up a signal from several satellites and the device calc your position
this keythingy have gps and bluetooth
bluetooth have a range of 10m so even if it could transmit
it's cords to your phone then you would have to be pretty close to the lost keys
an external gps, my brother has one but of a different brand. his loads really quick and there's no need to wait on finding satellites. i'm not sure how this performs though, but for a keychain it seems promising for other phones without a built-in gps
I actually have one of those. Well, mine is a white Vodafone branded one, but it's the same chip, hardware, box, everything. It's actually still vaguely useful - it's DGPS capable (WAAS/EGNOS), which the X1's GPS chip is not (augmented accuracy within certain systems, WAAS for North America/Canada and out to sea within several hundred miles, EGNOS for Europe etc), and it has apparently far better reception - my X1i couldn't pick up a GPS signal to save its life inside a BA Boeing 777 flight. The bluetooth'd external reciever picked up and held a strong signal for the entire 3500 mile flight at 40k ft. And inside a plane fuselage, that's got to be borderline faraday cage.
Hi,
Does anybody know about a working bluetooth TMC-receiver for Leo? I need only TMC but I'm not really sure what I should buy. Maybe anybody of you has a working one - please tell me which one.
Big THX in advance!
de Wolfe said:
Hi,
Does anybody know about a working bluetooth TMC-receiver for Leo? I need only TMC but I'm not really sure what I should buy. Maybe anybody of you has a working one - please tell me which one.
Big THX in advance!
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HI, it´s possible to use the inside radio to recive tmc signal. But only with the cableheadset.
Is it already possible also with HD2? Last time I tried (3 days ago) hyperGPS was not suitable for HD2.
No, it is not yet possible to do so... I am waiting for this too...
De Wolfe: check gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=80
GNS TrafficBox Plus FM9BT-C or its identical clone Navilock NL-324BTR (comes a little cheaper). Tested with HD2 + Navigon 7.3.6 and 7.4.0 PDA.
No HyperGPS/proprietary TMC yet.
I've tried Hypergps with my HD2 with no success
The starnge think is that Igo8 discovered TMC when Hypergps was set to port com 7 and GNS protocol. Unfortunately there was no way for me to set the correct FM frequency for RDS
TMC working with external BT GPS/TMC receivers
I got my new HTC HD2 a week ago. Igo8 runs exceptionally fast. I wanted to still use TMC data as well as I have paid for it (naviextras) and am used to it on my Pocket PC's (ipaq 3970, 5450, 5550 and 4700). I tried the HyperGPS route with the headset lead (you definitely need to plug a lead in to act as FM aerial). The only way I get TMC information working is to use either the GNS BT GPS/TMC receiver (GNS5843) or the Royaltek (RTG1001). I can either use internal GPS of HD2 (port 4 baud rate 57600) and get TMC from the BT GPS on port 2 at baud rate 57600. Port 2 seems to be the only option you get when you add (pair) the BT GPS devices and pick an external GPS port. I intend to generally use the internal GPS, but when in the car and going some distance or in bad weather if necessary will switch on the GNS 5843 go to igo8 setting/TMC pick GNS (protocol) port 2 and baud rate of 57600 (even though the manual says 38400). I get the message TMC Hardware detected and off It goes searching for RDS signals of the FM transmissions and extracts the TMC codes to integrate with your map and route. I have my GPS/TMC device semi permanently in the car (using velcro pads) by the windscreen or sun roof to get a better view of the sky for the satellites and the aerial suckered to the top of the windscreen so as not to have the FM signal blocked by the metal of the car's metal frame. Be aware that if you have a car with the 'athermic' windscreens that this will weaken all radio signals to your device (satellite, mobile & FM/RDS).
I better mention that I am in Northamptonshire in England in UK. You need to be in area that is covered by TMC carrying radio stations (non BBC), example are Classic FM and leicester sound, Heart FM, etc. etc..
Dear Mr de Wolfe
I use the "GNS TrafficBox FM9BT-C - Bluetooth TMC / TMCPro Empfänger mit KFZ zu USB Adapter" wich is a bloetooth tmc-module built in a car-charger.
It works pretty good, signal is ok with the short antenna and is very good with the cable-antenna. The charger is strong enough for the HD2 (wich is mentioned as problem in the comments of the website)
I got it from here: "http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=gn-003"
Greetings from Bavaria
esociarius
I can confirm the gns 5843 working. but i do have, after activating bluetooth, to connect the com2 manually. only activating bluetooth does not do the trick. the gns unit is paired but com2 does not connect. so igo does not find the tmc signal.
after manually connecting com 2 it works like a charm.
little annoyance and would like to find solution for it. if anyone knows.
example of sys.txt tmc setting for HTC HD2
I think you can get around this by adding some text to the sys.txt file under title of TMC and you state com port. Port 2 in our case.
[tmc]
port="" - comma separated port name and port number pairs for ex. "COM,1,COM,2,COM,3"
source="" - if it is not specified then the program tries to autodetect or the possible strings are
gns
royaltek
amaryllo
samsung
opentmc1
opentmc2
ngalik
eten
harman
gps_source= - 0 if the GPS and TMC receivers communicate on different ports, 1 if they share one port (for ex. GNS 5843 or Royaltek RTG1001)
But then it will always look for the BT GPS unit. Personally I prefer to switch the TMC section on only if I think I need to when in the car on a longer journey. So I use HD2's internal GPS (port 4) and external TMC (port 2 from GNS5843) Like I went to London on Friday (100miles away). Only in the centre of Canary wharf did the signal become confused. This would be because of the tall, close, glass and steel buildings making multipath GPS signals and only a small and narrow view of the sky immediately above. That is the situation when you put your BT GPS receiver at the sunroof glass looking straight up at sky instead of forward at the buildings blocking the signals from orbit.
Were you using your GNS GPS/TMC device for both signals or just the TMC? The above should cure your problem if you only use the GPS/TMC BT device on port 2.
I am using the internal GPS and bluetooth only for TMC. never had a prolem with lack of sattelite signal of the internal GPS in my car, so have no reason to use it other way.
I agree that the internal GPS receiver in the HD2 is very very powerful (sensitive). I get all 12 windows full of GPS signal even in the middle of my house and accuracy listed as 'high'. But I was just giving an insight to the worse case scenario I had the other day was in the middle of Canary Wharf because of the tall buildings . it would be the only place in the UK with the worst conditions for satellite reception.
The ideal and cheapest solution, for everyone, will be the solution for HyperGPS to work on HD2 with the 3.5mm aerial/headset lead plugged in. I even get a good FM signal through the 3.5mm to 3.5mm lead to connect HD2 to the audio input to the car system. If someone gets or sees the HyperGPS working on the HD2 for igo8 do please let us know. Thanks! in advance.
P.S. by the way ....where is this web site based? I just put this on at 1856 yet it displays at 0656. This site would therefore be ½ way around the world...... Ah! I just noticed there is the pm after it.
Just got my Navilock NL-324BTR. Paid just over £50 from Amazon.de. All is working well. The only niggle I have is that when iGO8 opens, it asks me to confirm the port that I want to use. If I do not select the port then hit "select" in time, the option screen disappears and it does not start.
Anyone any solutions?
To get that screen back you either just tap the BT button to get to that screen again or minimize Igo8 and tap start then Bluetooth then select your device. (I have moved the BT icon to the top (tap and hold) of the HD2 screen.
tomtom
Does anyone know whether there are any workarounds to use any of these tmc receivers with tomtom on the hd2. If not, can someone who used both tomtom and recent Igo give a short pros and cons of the two? I used Igo about 3-4 years ago and I did not like it plus I became used to tomtom.
what is reception quality of gns trafficbox tmc receiver?
Hi,
i am topaz (HTC touch diamond 2) owner and can use hypergps, however i find fm reception of topaz builtin tuner quite poor for tmc needs. In my citroen c5 (worst car for all sort of signals due to its athermic windscreen), tmc reception is poor. I have experimented with various antennas connected to extusb connector, however no real success.
I tried to get magnetic mount fm antena for car roof, but there isnt any available?!
Out of desperation i am now conisdering GNS traffic box (to many $$$...). As i understand there are two versions: lighter plug and external antenna version (both BT). I would buy one of these, and lighter plug seems practical, however i am afraid, that it would have poor recepetion due to athermic windscreen.
tomi
Hi tomi,
I have the GNS for the lighter-plug. The reception in my car (Ford Mondeo) is excellent with the long antenna and not bad with the short antenna - but in your case: I would buy the internal module, which is connected to the antenna of the car-radio, though you cannot take it out of your car.
Best regards
esociarius
Hi mihaid,
I have Tomtom on my second device, but I think there is no possibility to connect a tmc-module to tomtom - they want to sell their own tmc over internet-connection. This was one of the reasons, why I went back to Navigon, which works great on the hd2 (though the Navigon-support is poor).
Best regards
esociarius
For those with athermic front windscreens, place your BT GPS or TMC devices on the rear parcel shelf or attach to a sun/moon roof if you have one. An alternative position if you are a bit DIY is to place under the plastic in the aquarium between the bonnet and windscreen (usually has the windscreen wiper parts there too, needs power and insulation/ water proofing provided) tuck aerial along windscreen rubber).