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Lag Fix

Will we see a lag fix on our phone like the Samsung Galaxy S has?

Birdman was supose to be working on one but haven't heard anything in a really long time about it
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What lag? Only lag I have is on the lock screen
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I wouldnt call what they did to the galaxy s a "fix".
its a quadrant trick. thats it.

Its a lag fix that also effects quadrant but don't be mistaken, it does have an effect on the UI, as well.
Last I heard birdman was working on it
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Someone mind filling me in or linking me to what you're talking about? I have no lag on my X and I didn't hear anything about the S having any.

No lag here. Smooth as butter.

I have lag issues with pulling up contacts from the address book. Sometimes it can be up to 30 seconds where no info is displayed about the contact I clicked.

Sheen160 said:
Someone mind filling me in or linking me to what you're talking about? I have no lag on my X and I didn't hear anything about the S having any.
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Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760267

Does anyone know if the Vibrant fix also works on the X by any chance?

Breakthecycle2 said:
Does anyone know if the Vibrant fix also works on the X by any chance?
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I would have to say no as it modifies system files

_mrbirdman_
moto actually used the samsung galaxy S lag fix (noatime nodiratime) in the 2.2 dx leak...hahaha
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According to Birdman it's already there

If that were really the case, then why havn't the x's quadrant scores gone higher than 1500 with the update? Cuz on my vibrant I went from 800 to 2500 after the one click lag fix.bat ran
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Because we don't have a lag fix... There isn't lag. The Galaxy S gets huge scores the same way the X does. And the Hummingbird processor is the best one out there right now. Do the stagefright true mod and your X will hit 1800-2200 in Quadrant. It's only a number. I've personally hit 2050 but I don't much care about it. It runs just the same at 1400 because Quadrant bases a huge portion of that score on HD video decoding not actual processing speed. And I have many widgets and programs running to top it off.

blazewit said:
If that were really the case, then why havn't the x's quadrant scores gone higher than 1500 with the update? Cuz on my vibrant I went from 800 to 2500 after the one click lag fix.bat ran
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Stagefright is disabled in this build of Froyo for the Droid X. Thats why the scores are ~1300-1400. Stage fright is ENABLED by DEFAULT in Froyo so enabling it is actually making the device stock.

You are all missing the concept of the "lag fix" the Samsung Galaxy uses. All the lag fix is doing is creating a virtual file system due to the Samsung Galaxy using their proprietary RFS file system, which is good on flash memory and flash memory alone. The data directory they have is actually located on the Internal Memory (Integrated SD Card) Which is NOT true flash memory (NAND) and therefor lags due to using RFS instead of a superior (sector based) ext2 3 or 4.
The DroidX does NOT have this problem, we do not use RFS, and do not have the poor data partitioning scheme the Galaxy has, therefor this fix would do nothing for the Droid X, moreover it is not needed. The only benefit you would see is a higher Quadrant score because ext3 and 4 contain journaling which utilizes RAM as a cache, tricking quadrant into thinking you are writing and reading database entries in an unheard of amount of time... So if you want fake results, then port the fix. Just keep in mind we don't need it.
EDIT: I posted before I got to root and inspect the file system fully for the Droid X. The only idiotic thing I can see is Motorola chose to use ext3 as their system partition. Perhaps they had good reason, however /system is found on NAND, and NAND should have a filesystem designed for it, the benefits are significantly greater... A yaffs2 file system is what should have been used for /system as it is with many other phones, I'm not sure why manufacturers (Samsung.. Motorola) are starting to move away from using yaffs2, however at least Samsung created a file system meant for flash, and didn't just throw a sector based FS over NAND...

In all honesty...who cares about quadrant scores? I know I don't. If my phone runs smooth, snappy, and there are no delays when doing daily (non-intensive) processes, what does a quadrant score do for me? Nothing! It's just a pseudo-statistic used to brag about the speed of your phone. When in reality, I guarantee my X on 2.2 leaked update getting 1500 quadrant scores runs just as smooth as a galaxy getting 2300. I'm just kinda sick of everyone complaining about quadrant numbers. If the phone is fast when using it...then it's fast. simple.
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JIT for DroidX

I posted this on another forum with little avail... I didn't want to clutter this one up... However, without a clear answer, and actually very little intelligent conversation that resultant in my reluctance to actually respond... I have to resort to placing this here.
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So I have been playing around with the OTA 2.2 and decided to run linpack, I noticed an incredibly low score for froyo, (around 12-14) in comparison to the average Froyo score of 30-40. Figured I would play around in the build.prop, noticed JIT was not mentioned. Did they leave out enabling JIT for the Droid X froyo? Or am I missing something here...
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This was posted back on the 27 of September, since then I have poked around more and still have found little to answer my original question. Seriously, is it possible to have Froyo without JIT enabled... I know better than anyone to take benchmark scores with a grain of salt, it just seems a little odd to me. As a side note, Java performs worse than my Droid Incredible did, while the snapdragon is indeed a better computational processor, it quite significantly outperformed the Droid X in both Linpack and Java (I don't believe in quadrant enough to even run it...) which it truly should not...
Anybody have any reasonable input?

Where did you ever get the idea that 30-40 is a reasonable score for JIT enabled phones? Because of the N1? As I understand it, the N1's processor offloads the JIT compiler, vastly speeding up MFLOPS (Millions of Floating Operations Per Second) which is GREAT for linpack benchmarks, but its really not important as far as real world performance.
Stop taking so much stock in meaningless benchmark tests. MFLOPS are a terrible way to compare device speeds. Especially when you bring a phone into the mix that has a special way of handling MFLOPS.
Apps that test video decoding/encoding and FPS are much more likely to give you a better idea of real-world phone performance
If I'm wrong in any way people, please feel free to enlighten me.

LexusBrian400 said:
Where did you ever get the idea that 30-40 is a reasonable score for JIT enabled phones? Because of the N1? As I understand it, the N1's processor offloads the JIT compiler, vastly speeding up MFLOPS (Millions of Floating Operations Per Second) which is GREAT for linpack benchmarks, but its really not important as far as real world performance.
Stop taking so much stock in meaningless benchmark tests. MFLOPS are a terrible way to compare device speeds. Especially when you bring a phone into the mix that has a special way of handling MFLOPS.
Apps that test video decoding/encoding and FPS are much more likely to give you a better idea of real-world phone performance
If I'm wrong in any way people, please feel free to enlighten me.
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With all do respect, it is responses like yours that anger me slightly (albeit very slightly...). I specifically stated in my post that I do not hold benchmark tests in any regard, in fact I despise them... Quadrant in particular is so incredibly broken that a simple trickery in database write caching can bloat your score to such ridiculous heights, that it is not worth even turning an eye to any more. I did state however, that the benchmark did catch my attention enough to make me investigate the JIT compiler on our device. The only comparison I had to make were with 2.1 devices, in which JIT was referenced in the build.prop. I am unaware how it is enabled in 2.2, hence the question. I specify that as a common score as the Devour, EVO, Nexus, Droid Incredible, Samsung Galaxy I900, and iPhone (yes, i said it...) all see scores in the 30's through linpack. I am not giving those scores any relation to performance, because as I stated in my original post, "I know better than anyone to take benchmark scores with a grain of salt"... but thank you for not reading the full post, and discrediting my post *moderately angry face* (but more jokingly).
But in all seriousness, those phones showing the benchmark, while not giving an impression of performance, did give an impression, or rather a relation, to JIT. While JIT does not give performance increases in the amount shown through benchmarks, the performance gain is significant in some areas, and I would be heartstrucken if they managed to provide Froyo without JIT to the Droid X. I was just looking for confirmation that JIT is enabled, or a way to check. If I cannot get a straight answer around here, I will discover it sooner or later on my own. I am not even sure it is possible to have Froyo without having JIT enabled, but it caught my attention enough to have it investigated.

Sorry, i did not mean to upset you by taking time out of my day to TRY and answer your question. (Twice now)
Yes, JIT is enabled.
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And I guess I should have noted that I wasn't really talking DIRECTLY to you when I mentioned about people should stop taking so much stock in benchmarks. My bad. That was for others who happen to read this.

You guys... let's play nicely.

FWIW I've heard that JIT is in fact enabled...but the reason it's not very prevalent is because JIT was designed to be very efficient mainly with the qualcomm snapdragons and such..not the TI omap. I could be wrong but I believe this is why...and I believe the X still performs just a smoothly as those snapdragons which score higher on the benchmarks (which, I know, is not the question at hand, just giving my 2 cents).

LexusBrian400 said:
Sorry, i did not mean to upset you by taking time out of my day to TRY and answer your question. (Twice now)
Yes, JIT is enabled.
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Clearly you did not catch the sarcasm and joking tone I had in my writing, my apologies, I updated it to more clearly represent it ;-). Truly was not trying to sound angry, more sarcastically hurt... And I take time out of my day to help people all the time as well... look back at my posts, this is one of the few questions I've asked... I'm not a fan...
I understand, I know who you are... You've done a lot for the community... Thanks... I appreciated the incite and really didn't even care about the comment, I was more just joking about it in that I stated how I don't actually take heed to benchmark scores. Regardless, JIT was an area I am not really all that familiar with, and appreciate the answer. I play more on the system level as I am a Linux Server Administrator and deal mostly with script writing over actual compiling. Sorry if you thought I was taking shots at you ;-)
EDIT: FYI this isn't the first time people have thought I was being an ass to them... I am... what do they call it... anti-social... I just come across that way, I don't mean to however. I think I have actually had this conversation with another Developer on another forum, it ended in him admitting to the same problem... I think we then had crumpets and tea... well maybe not the crumpets and tea, but the rest is true...

Its all good captain taco, I truly wish I had a better answer for you.
the Jit ON/OFF switch, in my other phone, is in the build.prop. However, I do not see it in the Droid X build.prop
From 2.1 to 2.2, the linpack jumped over 6 points. And seeing that its just a software update, I guess you could say I'm blindly assuming that JIT is enabled, but I also want you to take note that apps that have trouble running in conjunction with JIT, also did not perform well until they were updated to work with it.
I can say in 100% confidence and (barely) educated guess, that JIT is in fact, enabled.
Have a good day Taco

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Its all good captain taco, I truly wish I had a better answer for you.
the Jit ON/OFF switch, in my other phone, is in the build.prop. However, I do not see it in the Droid X build.prop
From 2.1 to 2.2, the linpack jumped over 6 points. And seeing that its just a software update, I guess you could say I'm blindly assuming that JIT is enabled, but I also want you to take note that apps that have trouble running in conjunction with JIT, also did not perform well until they were updated to work with it.
I can say in 100% confidence and (barely) educated guess, that JIT is in fact, enabled.
Have a good day Taco
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Sounds good to me, that's about as good of an answer as it gets. Thanks

Is there not a way to get a real answer to this question? Motorola should be the source I suppose. Anyone have contact info or access to a Moto android software engineer?
Can someone be motivated to ask Moto if jit is enabled in 2.2 on the X?
We can speculate all we want.
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Izord said:
Is there not a way to get a real answer to this question? Motorola should be the source I suppose. Anyone have contact info or access to a Moto android software engineer?
Can someone be motivated to ask Moto if jit is enabled in 2.2 on the X?
We can speculate all we want.
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I feel as though his answer gives fair evidence that JIT is indeed enabled. It's likely just placed elsewhere, after all it was just a single line calling JIT in the build.prop, it could have been placed in any of the startup files, could be in the boot.img for that matter. I really haven't searched through all of the init scripts, and after reading LexusBrian400's response, I likely won't, I feel pretty assured it is enabled.

read the blog about 1/2 way down on nenolod.net titled "how to improve user performance on android phones"

mcsinfl said:
read the blog about 1/2 way down on nenolod.net titled "how to improve user performance on android phones"
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Have you tried this yourself???

mcsinfl said:
read the blog about 1/2 way down on nenolod.net titled "how to improve user performance on android phones"
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I believe that blog was meant for pre 2.2 android. I am not even sure we are able to make that change in 2.2, though do not hold me to that.
/etc/sysctl.conf is not a file in our system, and at the end of his post the author quotes "Update: Disabling NORMALIZE_SLEEPERS on Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 is a good idea."
Edit: Scratch the above, further digging in the comments section of that particular post:
nenolod says:
July 22, 2010 at 4:56 am
@moo: these are all scheduler enhancements made upstream already. Froyo already has them.
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CaptainTaco said:
I believe that blog was meant for pre 2.2 android. I am not even sure we are able to make that change in 2.2, though do not hold me to that.
/etc/sysctl.conf is not a file in our system, and at the end of his post the author quotes "Update: Disabling NORMALIZE_SLEEPERS on Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 is a good idea."
Edit: Scratch the above, further digging in the comments section of that particular post:
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The rubix rom has that mod in it. In the changelog, where he mentions "tweaks by nenolod" The Sleepers mod is what he is talking about. I just ran the code from nenlods blog and it went through fine. (on rubix) Sometimes sysctl.conf is in the /sys file I believe. I think thats what nenlod said, I talked to him last night about it because I was curious.
Anyway, it works on Rubix

JIT is enabled without a doubt.
The only reason there was a line in the build.prop was because it was a homemade JIT compiler for our phones. This is probably embedded into Froyo.

Just wanted to confirm, I watched a logcat today for about 15 minutes, JIT came up several times.
Download Alogcat and have a looksee for yourself.
It may take a while, but it'll come up for sure.
CONFIRMED
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LexusBrian400 said:
The rubix rom has that mod in it. In the changelog, where he mentions "tweaks by nenolod" The Sleepers mod is what he is talking about. I just ran the code from nenlods blog and it went through fine. (on rubix) Sometimes sysctl.conf is in the /sys file I believe. I think thats what nenlod said, I talked to him last night about it because I was curious.
Anyway, it works on Rubix
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i had a little trouble finding the sysctl file on my phone but it turned up in the /system/bin .
i like to keep a copy of any file i change, incase anything goes awry and I tried viewing the contents of the file on my PC but it was just a bunch of cryptic symbols. Is there a way to see what the file contains?
and thanks for the logcat confirmation of jit

drewden123 said:
FWIW I've heard that JIT is in fact enabled...but the reason it's not very prevalent is because JIT was designed to be very efficient mainly with the qualcomm snapdragons and such..not the TI omap. I could be wrong but I believe this is why...and I believe the X still performs just a smoothly as those snapdragons which score higher on the benchmarks (which, I know, is not the question at hand, just giving my 2 cents).
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This is exactly true. The OMAP doesn't see nearly the gains from JIT as the hummingbird/snapdragon does.

[Q] Bad performance? 1563 in Quadrant...

Hi everybody!
After installing the DocRom XXJPO v9 with lagfix Ext4 ALL (a=e4), schedule kernel, I/O, etc.. and tweaks, and I get 1563 in Quadrant's benchmark(I've just installed, i never ran the test before)...It's a very low value, isn't it?What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!

Take test scores with a grain of salt. It's not the best way of assuming something is wrong with your phone.
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Actually if u look at the other scores unless something has changed I'm pretty sure that is still the highest s ore on that list. No worries.
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Uh, yea. I get something between 900 and 1000 depending on the day with official 2.2. Mostly I assume down to the piss poor filesystem speed. It almost always looks like it has hung on the writing test.

Thanks for the responses!
I've read that some people got 2000 and even a little bit more. I guess they overclocked!!

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Thanks for the responses!
I've read that some people got 2000 and even a little bit more. I guess they overclocked!!
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People may be using an overclock but to the people with the 2000+ scores are using the EXT2 binds option/OCLF.
When using OCLF quadrants shows huge scores in the filesystem part whereas it may not reflect the actual performance of the phone.
Personally so far, hardcores new K10C kernel is by far the fastest I've used yet. He's updates a few things in K10C and my phone is really, really fast. You notice it more in the app drawer and when the phone is under load. I'm also using the all EXT4 option.
You should give K10C a go and see for yourself.

Paul, I'll have to wipe to install this new kernel?

... Quadrant scores are pretty meaningless. Only be worried if you feel lag when you're using the phone.

my scores breach 2000(by 3) but im not overclocked. look at my signature

I'll try this new kernel, PaulForde, thanks for the tip!
nwsk, you're totally right, but sometimes I notice some little lag in my live wallpaper, and I don't have lots of apps in background. That's what made me think about it, install Quadrant and compare the results with some others.
By the way racerboy3801, I see you have BUJP8 v9 installed...[offtopic]Have you noticed any differences with JPA/JPO?[/offtopic]

Rediscovering SuperPower v 0.80 BETA

So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.

What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?

I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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00mred00 said:
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.

Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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taytay209 said:
Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."

With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.

Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.

I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.

Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
irishpunk said:
I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.

Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
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I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

47r0n1n said:
SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
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I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
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irishpunk said:
I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Can you post your setcpu settings?

I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.

Old games do not work well on this phone

For example I tried playing the original angry birds and it is extremely choppy. It seems like a bunch of the old 2d iOS ported games like angry birds, cut the rope ect don't run that well on this phone. Does anyone else experience the same choppiness in this game? Is it something to do with optimization or is it a hardware issue with the One? Newer 3d games seem to run fine. I hope its not just my phone.

Strange. I just installed it and played the first level and found it to be extremely fast and responsive. Do you have power save mode on?
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born_fisherman said:
Strange. I just installed it and played the first level and found it to be extremely fast and responsive. Do you have power save mode on?
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I don't have power save mode on, I've been trying to diagnose the problem for the last little while and I can't figure out what it is. The game runs fine for the most part it is just a tiny bit jerky, especially when scrolling the background.

Same here, playing games I played on my S3 on my One are quite laggy. Maybe game developers have to add support for our phone?

I found this old post about the HTC One X, perhaps the same issue applies to the One and can be corrected with the same solution?
techites.com/how-to/why-some-games-lag-on-htc-one-x-and-the-fix/
My phone is not rooted so unfortunately I cannot test it right now.

cyanogen123 said:
I found this old post about the HTC One X, perhaps the same issue applies to the One and can be corrected with the same solution?
techites.com/how-to/why-some-games-lag-on-htc-one-x-and-the-fix/
My phone is not rooted so unfortunately I cannot test it right now.
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Another solution, once again requires a rooted device is to install any CPU app like kernel tuner, SetCPU, Trickster Mod, etc. Change the Governor from on-demand to msm-dcvs. In kernel tuner you can a little further enhancement by ticking the box next to link all cores. This will also tax your battery more but a lot less than that in article you linked to.

Both the titles you mentioned run without a hitch, very smooth. Anyone else want to chime in?
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Didn't want to start a new thread on same topic.
I've experienced the same issues on my One. In Nimble Quest for example, you can look at the background as it scrolls and every few seconds there's a hitch/slowdown, then the game speeds up again. It can be subtle and perhaps not everyone notices it. Another game that exhibits this, is Canabalt. It's actually more severe in Canabalt.
I have Power Save disabled and this issue still persists. I am not sure what the culprit would be, and I hope we don't have to rely on the developer to resolve the issue. I feel it's something on the phone's side, (perhaps it's throttling down)? I tested the same 2 games on an S4 and the issue was not present.
I am on 1.29.1540.3.