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Hello,
As the tittle already says, currently I am considering buying the Note and selling my S2. Im not a noob and consider myself as a power user. I like to tweak the sh*t out of my phone. Im currently running cyanogenmod on S2 with syiah and this is why I am writing this. I am aware that the Note is almost the same hardware as S2 and I am wondering about few things:
Is cyanogenmod 7/9 coming to the Note ?
What do you think, will developers support the note ? I mean, the S2 section is overflowing with roms, kernels etc, I wonder if there are any kernels with cpu undervolting, gpu undervolting/clocking etc.
The screen, ive seen some rumours that it uses the old amoled tech with fewer subpixels from S1, I didnt like that on S1, is that true ?
Im sorry to bother you, these are just a few questions I am having in my head before going to the store I love my S2, I dont mind the big screen, actually its the reason I want to upgrade... I would be very grateful for any replies, I am sure it will help few other undecided people too
Thanks for reading
I wouldn't buy the Note instead of your SII. It's too little of an upgrade for the $$$.
Unless the screen means everything to you (yes, it's beautiful).
CyanogenMod isn't released for the Note yet, but it probably will be pretty soon. Same goes for stock Ice Cream Sandwich.
i wasnt blown away when i upgraded from sgs2 to the note but still if u absolutely want a bigger screen than yeah go for it u wont be dissapointed in that respect.
Same as the rest of the comments. But, take into consideration that the custom launchers are not yet optimized for the Note, at least most of them. You'll need to wait for some upgrades.
The screen and resolution are...
My note will be here tomorrow, you guys are bumming me out. I have a i9100 now and thought the notes screen would be a big improvement.
The Note's screen IS a big improvement! It makes the phone. It does use the pentile subpixel layout, but the resolution is high enough and they've optimized the software to where it's the best screen you can currently buy in a mobile device. In My Humble Opinion. I literally haven't touched my tablet since the day my note arrived in the mail. I came from the GSII, also, and things like web browsing are no contest superior on the Note.
xeq544 said:
Is cyanogenmod 7/9 coming to the Note ?
What do you think, will developers support the note ? I mean, the S2 section is overflowing with roms, kernels etc, I wonder if there are any kernels with cpu undervolting, gpu undervolting/clocking etc.
The screen, ive seen some rumours that it uses the old amoled tech with fewer subpixels from S1, I didnt like that on S1, is that true ?
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yes, CM7 and 9 are being worked on.
When will they be done? Who knows.
Will developers support it? Who can tell? We have people doing ROMS already.
I'm sure you are aware that in this first gen set of kernels, the Note will be laggier than your S2. I'd suggest also browsing through the FAQ in my sig for a lot more info.
- Frank
Go for it. I went from the S2 (via a detour to the GN) to the Note and love it. My advice is think about what you want it for. it if's video and web browsing then go for it, if its more as a phone and making loads of calls then maybe not.
Also i'm seeing much better battery life with my usage when compared to the S2.
xeq544 said:
Hello,
As the tittle already says, currently I am considering buying the Note and selling my S2. Im not a noob and consider myself as a power user. I like to tweak the sh*t out of my phone. Im currently running cyanogenmod on S2 with syiah and this is why I am writing this. I am aware that the Note is almost the same hardware as S2 and I am wondering about few things:
Is cyanogenmod 7/9 coming to the Note ?
What do you think, will developers support the note ? I mean, the S2 section is overflowing with roms, kernels etc, I wonder if there are any kernels with cpu undervolting, gpu undervolting/clocking etc.
The screen, ive seen some rumours that it uses the old amoled tech with fewer subpixels from S1, I didnt like that on S1, is that true ?
Im sorry to bother you, these are just a few questions I am having in my head before going to the store I love my S2, I dont mind the big screen, actually its the reason I want to upgrade... I would be very grateful for any replies, I am sure it will help few other undecided people too
Thanks for reading
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like every new popular device, it takes time for the devs to get it & create a ROM for it.
There are some differences between the S2 and the Note... u can`t use the same Kernel and ROM. I talked to one Developer and in his opinion there will be no C 7 for Note... they´re still working on a ICS-ROM . At this time there are only a few C-ROM´s for the Note. They are almost buggy... If u come from Silya Kernel u will miss the very good performance of this Kernel and also the features ( call recording, reboot,...)
BTW u have the opinion to flash this features via CWM an mods to the Note..
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It does use the pentile subpixel layout
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Damn, thats a VERY cheap move from samsung on such an expensive handset. I was about to order the handset today, but I will go to the shop to check out the screen more extensively. I hated it on S1. And I sure will hate it on note... Why do they do this, its pretty much FAKE HD screen, because the number of subpixels is lower than on sub-HD S2 screen...
Gonna check it out tommorow and I will decide.
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Damn, thats a VERY cheap move from samsung on such an expensive handset. I was about to order the handset today, but I will go to the shop to check out the screen more extensively. I hated it on S1. And I sure will hate it on note... Why do they do this, its pretty much FAKE HD screen, because the number of subpixels is lower than on sub-HD S2 screen...
Gonna check it out tommorow and I will decide.
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By all means do check it out because of course it's a fair bit of money to drop on a new toy, but the screen density makes up for that very issue you're concerned about.
I came from a GSII and I have a mate who owns a Captivate. The difference between the two screens are immediately visible. Comparing my Note's screen to the GSII is however, a matter left to microscopes. Chances are you wont have the Note held 6 inches or less away from your face, which is where it just starts to become noticeable and that's even if you're looking for it.
Remember, the Galaxy Nexus and Droid RAZR both have (currently) higher-than-usual resolution screens using pentile SAMOLED displays. It's still slightly visible on the RAZR, but not so on the Nexus. It really truly is a great display.
As a side note, I took a bite ordering mine without ever handling one before, and I'm completely satisfied.
I sold my sgs2 in fqvour of a galaxy note, and can never go back. the sgs2 is smoother, the note has a lot of hiccups. but I can't use a regular phone anymore, everything is just to tiny.
Also, the biggest advantage besides the screen is the batterylife, it is the first phone that will last the whole day, the sgs2 was horrible in this departement!
so basically; better screen, better batterylife... but less smooth (still very fast though).
This is my first android phone, came from an iPhone 3gs, so no real comparison. I do have a few friends with the SGS2.
I agree with all the posts above. The screen is awesome, and even the Nexus seems small compared. I personally prefer having hardware buttons as further increases real-estate. Also agree with some of the lag issues, specifically with browser use. Have played around with the Nexus and ICS has some pretty significant improvements regarding speed and smoothness and i have no doubt that these will be passed down to the Note.
At the moment, this phone can,t be beaten IMHO
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Hi Guys,
I am about to buy Galaxy Note.But from reviews from my friends,Galaxy S2 is much better than Galaxy Note.
Please Help me to choose Galaxy Note or S2.I know this thread might be repeated,but all those reviews where when the Galaxy Note was Just launched.
Hope you would share your views on both.
Thank You!
SGS2 has a pathetic battery, if you can deal with that, then go for SGS2. If you like the big screen and SPEN then the note is for you.
Also SGS2 has a strange greenish hue in the camera pictures, while pictures from the note is perfect.
I have both. I am going to sell my S II though. In my opinion:
1. In terms of OS optimizations S II is better. But it is quite normal as Note has just arrived. And with every firmware update Note is getting better.
2. Battery life on S II is not 'Pathetic'. With right setting and optimizations you can easily enjoy more than a day's service with a single full charging. However with similar usage you will get better battery life in Note.
3. Screen in note is wayyy better than S II (I bet you know that already!).
4. GPS on Note is better here in Bangladesh. I went India last month My note's GPS was very very good. SII was ok.
5. One hand operation in note is quite troublesome. But you can do things with this big screen which are impossible in S II.
6. Stock apps in Note and S II are pretty similar. However some apps have more features in Note.
7. In my experience camera in both devices are very similar. I did not have any problem with my SII camera.
Both are very good devices. You wont regret with any of these. If price is not a factor and if you feel comfortable with the size, go for the Note.
BTW, stick to Xda-Developer. Without the goodies you'll find in Xda no matter what android device you get, it is destined to suck.
Thank you.
Hackerboi sums it up quite well.
Mostly it is a matter of what you want your phone for:
1. Note: if you want to write/sketch, do business related work on a large screen, watch videos on large screen, read on a large screen
2. GSII: if you need a phone in your pocket with which to text, engage in social media, music, navigation and other general smartphone stuff.
Is Note not pocketable?
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Is Note not pocketable?
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Quite pocketable. Not a problem for me at all. Check this video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItUPm3xMUb4
Dude go for the note it's way better than anything in the current market in my opinion.
galaxy note is todays version of yesterdays galaxyS2...
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I have both, the SII and the Note. I much prefer the Note. If you don't mind the size that is. It's not as optimized (OS wise) YET. and I really mean YET. My SGSII wasn't the greatest the first day either, it took a few updates. I haven't had any crashes or anything like that on my Note. Battery life is SUPERB. Last night (after a full day, mostly working, admitting I didn't use the screen a lot) I had 75% battery left when I went to bed. I woke up and still had 60% with wifi, 3g, bluetooth on, and actively syncing. So I know today, Saturday, I'll get through another day with the battery. I'm hydrating up now to go for a run (with the Note) and use Endomondo, which is a great app.
Screen is FANTASTIC on the Note. The screen is also good on the SII. They're both good devices, but they're also very different. GPS on the Note is REALLY good, SGSII is OK. It takes a little to get a lock. Screen size on the note is the best. S-pen helps me out a lot. I use it to jot down notes super fast. The screen size also helps with typing (a lot less guessing on behalf of the phone).
I'd go for the Note, but be warned, it's big and comfortable one handed use is out of the question. I can make a call, read emails and browse sites with one hand, but ANY form of real interaction is also out of the question.
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I have both, the SII and the Note. I much prefer the Note. If you don't mind the size that is. It's not as optimized (OS wise) YET. and I really mean YET. My SGSII wasn't the greatest the first day either, it took a few updates. I haven't had any crashes or anything like that on my Note. Battery life is SUPERB. Last night (after a full day, mostly working, admitting I didn't use the screen a lot) I had 75% battery left when I went to bed. I woke up and still had 60% with wifi, 3g, bluetooth on, and actively syncing. So I know today, Saturday, I'll get through another day with the battery. I'm hydrating up now to go for a run (with the Note) and use Endomondo, which is a great app.
Screen is FANTASTIC on the Note. The screen is also good on the SII. They're both good devices, but they're also very different. GPS on the Note is REALLY good, SGSII is OK. It takes a little to get a lock. Screen size on the note is the best. S-pen helps me out a lot. I use it to jot down notes super fast. The screen size also helps with typing (a lot less guessing on behalf of the phone).
I'd go for the Note, but be warned, it's big and comfortable one handed use is out of the question. I can make a call, read emails and browse sites with one hand, but ANY form of real interaction is also out of the question.
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Thank you.But is it comfortable while making a Call?Many have said it looks so WEIRD!
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Thank you.But is it comfortable while making a Call?Many have said it looks so WEIRD!
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Yup, which is why i use those hidden stereo wearable Bluetooth headsets
aalokraj said:
Thank you.But is it comfortable while making a Call?Many have said it looks so WEIRD!
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I don't see why it's uncomfortable. Well, since the phone is wider, you need to know where to place your ear, after a few phone calls you'll instinctively know where to put it. I guess it does look weird from the point of view of an iPhone user, or a Blackberry device. This phone is HUGE. Check out this link with some comparison pictures of other phones I have around the house.
Frankly, I'm comfortable with it. It doesn't bother me. The experience of the large screen is everything I could ever ask for in a mobile device:
Great battery life
Large Screen
Great camera
Easy typing experience with keyboards
I hope I've helped.
It can be a little awkward making a call using the note at first but trust me I had no issues at all in a couple of days. It seems like the perfect size for me now. Apart from the size factor the note beats the s2 in many ways. Go for it, you wont be disappointed.
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Thank you.But is it comfortable while making a Call?Many have said it looks so WEIRD!
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The vast majority of people who say that haven't really used the phone for any signifigant period of time.
My guess would be, the 'getting used to it' hump is probably 1 week. After that, if you are still happy with the size of the phone, then the phone just gets better and better after that.
- Frank
Thinking of getting one of these. Glad to see the pocketability is good. Since I don;t buy cases this should not be an issue. I would imagine an Otterbox on this would put it it in "man purse" territory LOL
Just waiting for more optimization and lower used price points because I intend to keep the SGS II as a back up until I am sure the Note is better. Alos am concerned about losing my MediaNet UL data plan...Not sure I want to pay $220 more a year for 600MB of Carrier data I use over the 200MB plan.
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I would imagine an Otterbox on this would put it it in "man purse" territory LOL
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hahahahah !! Man purse ... i once saw a guy yapping on a Galaxy Tab, it looked as if he was talking on a laptop.
Galaxy note still looks like a phone though
Where do you put the note when running?
What headset do u use?
P.s. One handed operation is somewhere between ****ty and impossible. But i can live with that. Get note, sgs2 cant compare if you need a mobile internet gadget. For calls and fast sms get s2
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Thank you.But is it comfortable while making a Call?Many have said it looks so WEIRD!
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I think it looks awesome The worst thing that people might think about you is that you are the geekiest geek in the place
Hello, would like some honest advice and opinions please, on whether to keep my new ATT HTC One M8 or get the ATT Galaxy S5 ?
I am no fanboy, I have owned like 11 or 12 different Android phones over the past four years, HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, etc... To me the company brand doesn't really matter whatsoever. In this order is my opinion on most important features; #1 = Best battery life, #2 = Best screen, #3 = Pocketable and good feel in hand, and weight in pants / shorts, #4 = Root option, to debloat the phone, and install apps like AdAway, and Greenify, and Xposed Framework, #4 = Smoothness of the OS and UI, no lag, and good looking UI.
Little recent phone history the past year, I have had the ATT S4 since the Fall, and before that the Nexus 4. Got rid of the Nexus due to average battery life, and dropped it and cracked the screen. Got the ATT S4, and liked it, but didn't know about the lock bootloader before I bought it, so Root was my only option, but I was cool with that, root allowed me to all I wanted, like delete apps, install root apps, and also Xposed framework with Wanam, and I turned my S4 into a cool phone, but the S4 screen always seemed too dim for outdoors, and battery life was ok, not bad, not great, and it did lag a little here and there. So...time for an upgrade.
Reading every review out there between the new HTC One M8 and Samsung Galaxy S5, made them seem like such a tie, it was more personal features that separated them, but hardware wise, both phones share very similar components, and pretty close battery life.
After owning the One M8 for a week now, only noticeable drawbacks coming form an S4, is the weight of the M8 feels much heavier, especially when in the pockets of my pants or coat, it weighs it down noticeably more than the S4 did, and with gym shorts on the M8 feels like a brick, where the S4 was very feather light in comparison. And turning it on, the S4 with the bottom home button, I was so used to pressing then and then swiping hand to turn on the screen. The M8 has knock on, which is ok, but I don't like it that much, and then the power button on top to turn screen on, is a little pain.
But the M8 has a very beautiful LCD screen, and looks great outdoors. The speed of the M8 is crazy fast. And Sense 6 looks really good, almost like stock Android, but lightly improved or touched up. Where as Touchwiz on my S4 was an ugly mess. The settings on the Galaxy S4 was a cluster**** design, where as the Sense 6 settings menu is smart and clean looking.
But I did see a coworker with a new S5, and I did get a little jealous of it, the screen looked pretty dang sweet and his all black S5 phone in a black case, looked stealth bad ass cool The M8 in dark gray, doesn't really have an exact color matching case, so with a case on the M8 it really loose the coolness big time, this M8 looks best naked, as soon as a case it put on it, the great design disappears.
Only thing keeping me back from the S5, is ATT, and no Root, and I know for sure no bootloader unlock coming ever, but at least basic Root I need on a phone. How do you use a phone with all that crapwear installed without removing it ? And I can't afford the $700 to buy an off contract S5, plus I think that's outrageous to pay, I'd just wait for the One+ or Nexus 6 for $399.
So bottom line, is the ATT S5 worth it over the M8, if I like the lighter weight, the home button to turn it on, the gorgeous screen, and stealth look of the black design ? But with no Root, not sure I can live with that ? But then I do love Sense 6, and the ROM'ing I can do on the M8, and battery life has been off the charts good on this M8 with my rooted settings, which battery life is extremely important to me.
So ... ?
Zorachus said:
Hello, would like some honest advice and opinions please, on whether to keep my new ATT HTC One M8 or get the ATT Galaxy S5 ?
I am no fanboy, I have owned like 11 or 12 different Android phones over the past four years, HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, etc... To me the company brand doesn't really matter whatsoever. In this order is my opinion on most important features; #1 = Best battery life, #2 = Best screen, #3 = Pocketable and good feel in hand, and weight in pants / shorts, #4 = Root option, to debloat the phone, and install apps like AdAway, and Greenify, and Xposed Framework, #4 = Smoothness of the OS and UI, no lag, and good looking UI.
Little recent phone history the past year, I have had the ATT S4 since the Fall, and before that the Nexus 4. Got rid of the Nexus due to average battery life, and dropped it and cracked the screen. Got the ATT S4, and liked it, but didn't know about the lock bootloader before I bought it, so Root was my only option, but I was cool with that, root allowed me to all I wanted, like delete apps, install root apps, and also Xposed framework with Wanam, and I turned my S4 into a cool phone, but the S4 screen always seemed too dim for outdoors, and battery life was ok, not bad, not great, and it did lag a little here and there. So...time for an upgrade.
Reading every review out there between the new HTC One M8 and Samsung Galaxy S5, made them seem like such a tie, it was more personal features that separated them, but hardware wise, both phones share very similar components, and pretty close battery life.
After owning the One M8 for a week now, only noticeable drawbacks coming form an S4, is the weight of the M8 feels much heavier, especially when in the pockets of my pants or coat, it weighs it down noticeably more than the S4 did, and with gym shorts on the M8 feels like a brick, where the S4 was very feather light in comparison. And turning it on, the S4 with the bottom home button, I was so used to pressing then and then swiping hand to turn on the screen. The M8 has knock on, which is ok, but I don't like it that much, and then the power button on top to turn screen on, is a little pain.
But the M8 has a very beautiful LCD screen, and looks great outdoors. The speed of the M8 is crazy fast. And Sense 6 looks really good, almost like stock Android, but lightly improved or touched up. Where as Touchwiz on my S4 was an ugly mess. The settings on the Galaxy S4 was a cluster**** design, where as the Sense 6 settings menu is smart and clean looking.
But I did see a coworker with a new S5, and I did get a little jealous of it, the screen looked pretty dang sweet and his all black S5 phone in a black case, looked stealth bad ass cool The M8 in dark gray, doesn't really have an exact color matching case, so with a case on the M8 it really loose the coolness big time, this M8 looks best naked, as soon as a case it put on it, the great design disappears.
Only thing keeping me back from the S5, is ATT, and no Root, and I know for sure no bootloader unlock coming ever, but at least basic Root I need on a phone. How do you use a phone with all that crapwear installed without removing it ? And I can't afford the $700 to buy an off contract S5, plus I think that's outrageous to pay, I'd just wait for the One+ or Nexus 6 for $399.
So bottom line, is the ATT S5 worth it over the M8, if I like the lighter weight, the home button to turn it on, the gorgeous screen, and stealth look of the black design ? But with no Root, not sure I can live with that ? But then I do love Sense 6, and the ROM'ing I can do on the M8, and battery life has been off the charts good on this M8 with my rooted settings, which battery life is extremely important to me.
So ... ?
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I used my brothers M8 for about 2 weeks and have been using the S5 since it has been released in stores. If you are going by appearance alone, the M8 takes the cake. If you need louder speakers, go with the M8. Even tho the S5 doesn't have root, I stay around 5-6hrs of screen time with about 25hrs in between charges. I am a heavy texter, steam pandora during my 1hr car ride each way to/from work and use Facebook a lot. The M8 battery life didn't come close to comparing to the S5. The light weight of the S5 is a huge factor as well. In direct sunlight, the screen on the S5 displays a little better than the M8. The camera on the S5 is better than the M8. I don't use the heartbeat sensor so I find that pretty useless. The double tap to wake feature on the M8 is something that I definitely wish was possible on the S5. A lot of people complain about the fingerprint scanner on the S5, but I haven't experienced them. Being able to disable a lot of the built in apps and services on the S5 has drastically improved the performance; however, it is a little too early to tell its impact on battery life. Not having root is a huge drawback as I like to completely just remove the junk that I don't use and am a flashaholic. Ultimately, it is your choice as to which device would be better for you, but for me the S5 is my device of choice.
I will say, the M8 feels very premium in the hand, and the screen is extremely crisp, bright, and clear looking. My old S4 feels like a kids plastic toy, compared to the luxury feel of the M8. And Sense 6 with the Black / White colors, looks very professional and polished, compared to the butt ugly nasty Touchwiz on my S4.
But I haven't really played with an S5 much, so I am comparing my M8 to S4 which isn't fair.
I just miss the lightweight feel of the S4, with the rounded corners, felt very good in the palm of the hand.
I chose the m8 because of the ability to convert it to Google Play and the fact that the company let's you unlock it. I was a big Samsung fan until the Note 3.
As far as features, I wasn't a big camera person so the decision was a no brainer for me.
This is my first HTC phone and so far it doesn't disappoint. Battery life is amazing (although converted) and the speakers rock. However if it was waterproof that would have been a nice touch.
Either phone is a good choice. Decide what you really want to do with it then use that to choose. For me it was customizability and the speakers.
Hope this helps.
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I have owned a Samsung phone since the first Galaxy came out software on the galaxy is the best in my opinion, even though I don't use all the features I used alot of them, since the s4 with boot loader lock to the s5 it has just soured me on Samsung. So I decided to try HTC and I don't regret it, battery life is amazing and I use it all day, the feel of the metal to me personally feels more premium and the fact that HTC gives you the choice to unlock boot loader is a plus. Camera well I'm not a photographer so a decent camera will do and I'm happy with it. Over all it comes down to personal preference.
And with a slim case my phone didn't lose that nice look and the premium feel.
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I think that you're just one of those people that just want whatever is the hottest phone out there, but is that phone the best one for you? There is the best phone, and there is the right phone. I believe that the S5 is the slightly better phone, but based on what you're looking for, I believe that you already have the right phone, maybe not the better one, but the right one for you. If so, then don't let your greed get the best of you. Neither one of these phones are perfect. Let's face it. You're going to be missing something that you really want regardless of which phone you choose.
The M8 has the better look naked, but the S5 has the better looking case? Come on, seriously? Oh well, I guess every little factor matters.
But then again, Your biggest factors:
If you want the better feeling phone, then choose the S5. If you want root, then choose the M8. There is a chance that you will get one of the two factors, but not the other, as there is no guarantee that the S5 will ever get root. So, you should be deciding which is more valuable to you, better feel or root.
The other factors, best battery, best performance, are going to vary based on who you ask because no two phones will be or act exactly alike.
If you're in the US then the M8 and the S5 are two of the best choices right now. I faced your same dilemma. You can't go wrong with either phone, but each one has strengths and weaknesses and some of those weaknesses will never change.
For me I chose the S5, but I wanted the better camera. I wanted the RGB LED notification. I wanted the phone that won an award for best display on a smartphone ever. I'm a bit old-fashioned...I didn't want to go to a phone that had no hardware buttons. I also wanted a removable battery.
For choosing those, I had to give up what the M8 was offering like BoomSound, Sense 6 (I happen to like Sense), the new BlinkFeed everyone seems to like, the nice metal case, unlocked bootloader and root right out of the gate and so on.
There's no perfect phone. You have to find the one whose flaws you're willing to live with. I'm just glad the Xperia Z2 isn't offered by any carriers here or it would have been an even tougher decision!
I personally love the s5 build. The back has good grip and doesn't attract fingerprints. I would assume that it's likely more durable than the m8 based off of the water resistance alone. Speakers on the s5 get the job done. Loudest they were on any sammy device. Only drawback, which was already mentioned, is lack of root. The bloatware is more present than ever and, while I won't flash anything too crazy since I like the stability of TouchWiz, I would like to remove all this bloatware
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I currently have both. The GS5 is going back this week. Reason: Lag drives me crazy. It's not a slow phone, but there are slight lags everywhere and they add up. Especially when you compare it side-by-side with the M8. I just can't use a phone like this as my daily driver.
I will say that this phone has the best screen I've ever seen. I thought the M8 was good until I saw the GS5. I also like the way the GS5 feels in my hand more and I don't feel like I need a case to keep from dropping it. I thought I wanted the better camera, but I find that, while better, it's not so much better that I have to keep this device over the M8. And it's slower to launch, which means I miss a lot of shots I can get with my M8.
That being said, the lack of root, locked bootloader, and Knox pretty much kill it for me. My M8 is already rooted with ads blocked and tethering. I also have a Find 7a on the way, so I don't really need all three phones.
One minor thing, I like the look of the black colored S5 with a cool flat black case on it, looks very stealth and bad ass, and the phone sits flat on a desk with a case, easy to still use the phone flat. Where as the M8 is curved, and any case on the M8 immediately kills the great looks of the new One. Is funny, the S5 actually looks better with the right case on it, and the M8 only looks awesome naked, but is dangerous to run around with the M8 unprotected. I haven't see any good looking case for the M8 yet, they all destroy the beauty of the phone.
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One minor thing, I like the look of the black colored S5 with a cool flat black case on it, looks very stealth and bad ass, and the phone sits flat on a desk with a case, easy to still use the phone flat. Where as the M8 is curved, and any case on the M8 immediately kills the great looks of the new One. Is funny, the S5 actually looks better with the right case on it, and the M8 only looks awesome naked, but is dangerous to run around with the M8 unprotected. I haven't see any good looking case for the M8 yet, they all destroy the beauty of the phone.
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Keep the M8 if you need root...while a root exploit for the ATT version will likely be found later, there likely really isnt a whole lot of development thats gonna happen for the device. I have both, but I went and bought a TMO outright and sim unlocked it...That said as soon as I can get a 1+ invite, I'm getting rid of the S5.
I currently have the Note 2 ND I'm on tmobile but I like to see the trend that carriers and phones are going. I'm very devoted to the Note line and my next phone is going to be the Note 4. It seems Samsung is OK with carriers locking bootloader. If tmobile does this I will have to move to htc hopefully they develop a good note competitor.
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Keep the M8 if you need root...while a root exploit for the ATT version will likely be found later, there likely really isnt a whole lot of development thats gonna happen for the device. I have both, but I went and bought a TMO outright and sim unlocked it...That said as soon as I can get a 1+ invite, I'm getting rid of the S5.
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Have you had any issues with the SIM unlock such as the phone loosing the APN, getting MMS, or anything?
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One minor thing, I like the look of the black colored S5 with a cool flat black case on it, looks very stealth and bad ass, and the phone sits flat on a desk with a case, easy to still use the phone flat. Where as the M8 is curved, and any case on the M8 immediately kills the great looks of the new One. Is funny, the S5 actually looks better with the right case on it, and the M8 only looks awesome naked, but is dangerous to run around with the M8 unprotected. I haven't see any good looking case for the M8 yet, they all destroy the beauty of the phone.
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Well flip coin. If it comes up heads, then get the phone with the better looking case; tails, the better looking phone naked.
What's the difference? 11 or 12 phones in 4 years? It doesn't matter which phone you already have. You're going to get the other, plus one more in the next year anyway, your 3 phones per year average. I say get the S5 now, since you already have the M8. If you had the S5 first, you would probably be getting the M8 next. You're not going to be completely satisfied anyway regardless of which phone you get.
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Well flip coin. If it comes up heads, then get the phone with the better looking case; tails, the better looking phone naked.
What's the difference? 11 or 12 phones in 4 years? It doesn't matter which phone you already have. You're going to get the other, plus one more in the next year anyway, your 3 phones per year average. I say get the S5 now, since you already have the M8. If you had the S5 first, you would probably be getting the M8 next. You're not going to be completely satisfied anyway regardless of which phone you get.
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LOL at the 12 phones in 4 years. I think so ? My first Android phone was the MyTouch 3G, then the Nexus-One, EVO 4G, EVO 3D, Nexus-S 4G, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, HTC One X, Note 2, Nexus 4, Galaxy S4, and now my HTC One M8, so that would be 12
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LOL at the 12 phones in 4 years. I think so ? My first Android phone was the MyTouch 3G, then the Nexus-One, EVO 4G, EVO 3D, Nexus-S 4G, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, HTC One X, Note 2, Nexus 4, Galaxy S4, and now my HTC One M8, so that would be 12
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You're just a phone jumper, admit it. You just like to try different phones. The only reason you're thinking about the S5, is because you haven't got your hands on it yet. If you had the S5 first, then you'd be thinking about the M8.
I wish I had enough money to try 12 phones every 4 years. I'm stuck every 2 years with just 1, the last 10 years.
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I had the m8, it was fast but things I did not like
it felt like a slick wet bar of soap, yes a case would resolve this issue and most of use cases..
I hated the camera I take loads of pics with my phones and 4 ultra pixels was just not cutting it..
I like lifeproof cases yet they will sadly not be making them for the HTC M8.. I drop my phone a lot and would like to have a waterproof case..
S5
I now own
it is waterproof for short amounts of time up to whatever meters.. another words if i drop in or get a call in the rain or whatever i don't have to worry about getting it wet.
the camera is a load better on the S5
on the S5 you can set up the screen for more sensitivity so if you are wearing gloves you can use your phone ( living in the northeast this is a good thing in cold weather)
lifeproof also has a case for this in the works even though you can get it wet I'd still like a waterproof case..
removable back on the s5
removable battery on the s5
user interface, well most of us download new launchers and then later on root and unstall a rom so this wont be an issue once root is gained on the AT&T and Verizon models...
those are why I chose the S5 over the M8
I got the S5 almost two weeks ago and loved it. It's fast, has a great screen, great camera and excellent battery life. But for me, having root was the my biggest motivator. It was the main reason I traded my iPhone 5 for an s4 a few months back. I just traded my s5 back in for the m8 and don't regret it a bit, they are both excellent phones and both have their trade offs. If rooting is not a big deal for you then by all means go with the s5(I would have). If you know you will want/need root in the future then the m8 is probably your best bet.
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After a week of owning the One M8 I am pretty happy with it, I'd say very happy actually. Not fair, but the comparisons are against my previous phone, the Galaxy S4.
Pros;
- Screen is awesome, very crisp and sharp, with realistic colors, looks extremely detailed. After my S4's AMOLED, this is a refreshing change. Plus outdoors it looks night and day better than the S4 screen.
- Crazy smooth fast. The M8 is Star Trek warp speed fast compared to the S4 which would be current rocket technology fast. Plus TW on the S4 would lag or pause for a second or two in some apps, never get anything like that on the M8.
- Sense 6 is very nice, compared to Touchwiz, it looks more professional, nice Black / White / Blue theme and design to Sense 6, more of a minimalistic look. I still think stock Android is the best, but Sense 6 is a very close second. And Touchwiz is last place of all UI's to me.
- Battery life on the M8 is off the charts AMAZING, I mean like really good, maybe even 50% better then my S4. This thing almost lasts as long as my old Note 2 battery.
- Speakers, I wasn't ever really looking for great speakers in a cell phone before, never thought about it. But wow these are crazy good, loud and very clear sound. YouTube videos and music sound awesome. Really wasn't expecting to like the speakers as much as I do.
- Development friendly, I am rooted, custom Recovery, S-Off, and running a custom stock ROM. And I have the option to install the GPE ROM of the M8, so can always be on the latest Android OS if I want for years now.
Cons;
- Heavy weight, not a fan of the heavier feel of this M8, compared to my old S4 which was feather light. The S4 in gym shorts was barely noticeable, where the M8 feels like a brick.
- Curved back not cool, I like flat backs on a phone, to rest on a desk, and use it while laying down on the table. Can't really do that with the M8. I like a small thin flat case around my phone, not curved.
- Accessories, not nearly as many cases available for the M8, as there are for the iPhone or Galaxy line.
- LED Notification light on the S4 is better, bigger and brighter. The M8 has this tiny little flashing dot hiding inside the speaker grille.
- Not waterproof like the new S5, which would be nice.
Overall I really like this M8, just need to find that right case. But the S5 still looks nice too, but with no root and no ROM's for the S5 that is a big deal for me. I couldn't handle a stock carrier version S5 with no customization or option to debloat it. But the lighter feel, and flat back is ncie for the S5.
At the end of the day there is no perfect phone. I think a combination of the S5 + M8 = perfect phone. Sense 6 + S5 screen + metal design in the shape of the old smaller S4 size + waterproof. Then I woke up
I have the gs3. I love the phone. It is still a good phone just like I miss my old htc evo. I was thinking about upgade to the GS5. What better than specs. The look and feel is the same. I mean the software. It nothing different. What you think pro and cons. im iffy on picking another galaxy or might go back to htc.
I understand your situation, I more or less was in the same place as you. I had the HTC one S and it was a great phone, built quality and the ui was superb. I went then to the S3, good phone not as good as the one S( the lag ?) but it had more features.
I went for a upgrade last week and I was in between the One M8 and the S5, the HTC is more snappy and it looks beautiful but then again I choose a galaxy, why? Well.... The features and camera but essentially the removable battery...
I guess in the end you will have to go through the same process and see which features you value more, what fits me may not fit you and I guess there no right or wrong here.
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I have the SGS3 too and am looking to upgrade.
The SGS5 feels more of the same Samsung experience, and I want something better.
I would choose another brand: HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony...
I hate the build quality of the SGS5, the AMOLED screen (I hate saturated colors), the hardware home button and capacitive buttons instead of on screen buttons, the annoying USB flap cover, the chrome bezel that will wear off and look terrible in 2 years just like in my SGS3, TouchWiz is still the worst skin (looks and performance and it takes a LOT of RAM compared to other skins), etc.
I'm looking to buy the X+1 or maybe Moto G2.
I had the S3 and S4, and now the S5.
I liked each one more than the previous one, and each one had better battery duration than the previous one.
I felt a better upgrate from the S4 to S5 than from the S3 to the S4.
I love the S5 camera, and the samsung software and apps.
I think you will like it a lot, personally i am already wanting the S6, (Hopping for at least 20MP camera, would love more ), i will keep my S5 as a tablet and spare phone, since i like it a lot.
I use it with touchwiz and havent rooted it yet, i will after i get the S6, since i will only need root for tablet functions i will use.
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I have the SGS3 too and am looking to upgrade.
The SGS5 feels more of the same Samsung experience, and I want something better.
I would choose another brand: HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony...
I hate the build quality of the SGS5, the AMOLED screen (I hate saturated colors), the hardware home button and capacitive buttons instead of on screen buttons, the annoying USB flap cover, the chrome bezel that will wear off and look terrible in 2 years just like in my SGS3, TouchWiz is still the worst skin (looks and performance and it takes a LOT of RAM compared to other skins), etc.
I'm looking to buy the X+1 or maybe Moto G2.
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What are you talking about? GS5 has THE best screen as of today. If you choose the cinema mode, you get perfect color saturation.
If I want to get picky, then here it is...
HTC : hate camera and fugly internal build (they use too much tape)
Moto : also hate camera, old hardware (i don't care how optimized the software is, I'm not paying for old hardware), no sdcard, no removable battery.
LG : too large for my taste.
Sony : hasn't come out for VZW. no removable battery
G3 cons
Screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797810
http://anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review/2
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-black-angle-alt-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-pict-angle-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/lg-g3.shtml#display-test
Camera
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g3
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728
http://blog.gsmarena.com/weekend-poll-lg-g3-vs-samsung-galaxy-s5/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178
Plastic body
No waterpoof
Lags
Pros
Thin bezels
OIS
S5 cons:
No OIS
PWM (240 ghz flickering at medium and low brightness) (perhaps fixed in LTE-A)
Not good calibration (In LTE-A almost fixed, in Galaxy Alpha even better than LTE-A)
Plastic body (fixed in Galaxy Alpha)
Oversaturate and rosiness in some situations in camera (fixed in Galaxy Alpha)
pros:
Oled (ideal response time (good in video), ideal black color, ideal contrast, ideal viewing angle, all much better than lcd)
Isocell (better detailing and awesome ideal colors if the firmware is normal (Alpha)
Waterproof
I have both, If you want FLUID, GS5 my S5 is as fluid as hell... Very nice experience, touchwiz is basically the same but speed and zappiness is much better, Screen quality is AMAZING, and camera\video? LOL you will laugh when you compare the S3 with the S5
I was in same place. Felt tired after my S3 with samsung. But in end wasn't impressed with HTC, windows options were pants and apple? Rather eat glass.
Got the S5 and haven't looked back. Faster, better screen and way better battery. As for the size. You quickly get use to it. Fits in my pocket fine. Holding S3 now, just feels tiny.
I've had the S5 since it came out and upgraded from the S3. The two biggest differences for me are the camera and screen quality. Those two things alone made me satisfied with the upgrade. Its also noticeably faster than the S3 and the water resistance is also nice. I haven't had a chance to play with any of the newer HTC phones so I can't offer any information there but overall I'm happy with the S5.
I have a sgs3 and the touchwiz is kinda laggy and also the preinstalled apps of samsung. My question is did samsung make any improvement in the touchwiz on kitkat? Did you see any difference? Is it any faster than the s3? Im thinking buying the note 4 but im worried about the touchwiz beeing slow and laggy
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I have a sgs3 and the touchwiz is kinda laggy and also the preinstalled apps of samsung. My question is did samsung make any improvement in the touchwiz on kitkat? Did you see any difference? Is it any faster than the s3? Im thinking buying the note 4 but im worried about the touchwiz beeing slow and laggy
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I think touchwiz definitely runs better on the S5 compared to the S3. I also rooted mine soon after buying it and removed most of the preinstalled stuff, so that helped as well.
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I think touchwiz definitely runs better on the S5 compared to the S3. I also rooted mine soon after buying it and removed most of the preinstalled stuff, so that helped as well.
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How about the gallery app does is it still slow?
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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I love the S5 camera, and the fact that its waterproof
I had the S3 when it came out 2 years ago, I don't miss it at all. I'm coming from the Nexus 5 which was smooth as hell. You need some light mods on the S5 to make it even. Beside that, it's probably the best device I've owned. Awesome camera, waterproof, got plenty of videos underwater when I was in the south. Good battery life way better than the S3,you have air gesture, etc...
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I'm completely in agreement with santa_claws the touchwiz experience is much more fluid. I too graduated from the s2 > s3 > s4 > s5 and with each upgrade I've come to expect more from Samsung. To my surprise they outdid themselves with the s5.
Being a juice freak I am STUNNED at the battery life. The screen display? omg. The camera? Fagetaboutit. Upgrade bro. Trust me. It will alter your view of the universe.
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Yeah the camera and screen are pretty impressive. Before buying the phone I looked at some sample shots and didn't understand what all the hype was about. But then I realized that I was viewing the pics on my S3 with a lower resolution screen, lol. Once I viewed them on a decent quality screen I saw the huge difference.
And you are spot on about battery life. Much improved although I still carry an external battery with me for days of heavy use.
Lol yes that would definitely play a factor. Shoot I went a step further, I force fit an extended battery with an otterbox Defender case by cutting out a portion of the hard plastic. Works great and battery life is outstanding!
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Lol yes that would definitely play a factor. Shoot I went a step further, I force fit an extended battery with an otterbox Defender case by cutting out a portion of the hard plastic. Works great and battery life is outstanding!
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I usually carry the external to charge my other devices (bluetooth headphones, tablet) but thats only when I have my bookbag with me. For the times I'm without my bag I like your idea. Would you mind posting your battery stats with your setup? Maybe I'll give it a try.
Just got my not note yesterday. I've been playing and setting it all up today. All the scare tactics of people re: lagging, gaggape etc seem to have 0 merit.
It was fairly simple to transfer data from iTunes (not everything transferred smoothly but I didn't lose any photos etc). Amazingly easy to set up email etc.
I realised all this talk about Note Vs iPhone is BS. The Note is so much better than my iPhone 5 or my wife's 5S. It's incredible how good the screen and camera are. I tweaked it a little after watching some videos so its running even quicker than it was and I was very happy to begin with. There's 0 gap (Samsung must have fixed that issue it looks like they've filled the space with resin possibly? There's 0 lag.
I can't get my one-handed mode to work but everything else is running fine. Even the fingerprint scanner is working perfectly.
I haven't even begun to explore the business possibilities as a Jeweller the Spen is going to be very very handy during design consultations as I can use my note rather than my tablet now (as it's big enough).
Just thought I'd leave my thoughts.
Well surely it is better than last gen iPhones but calling it the best is kinda an overkill. I'm a hardcore samsung fan myself and I love my device but there are things to improve on hopefully Note 5.
Its the best for now even next year the note 4 will still hold its own right up till the n5
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Well surely it is better than last gen iPhones but calling it the best is kinda an overkill. I'm a hardcore samsung fan myself and I love my device but there are things to improve on hopefully Note 5.
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The iPhone 6's are just bigger, faster versions of the 5. I've tried them. They don't have a stylus or a 2k screen or 16mp camera.
Sure, there's phones that have individual better features than the Note (ie the Sony Z3 Camera) but overall I think it's the best phone out right now. There's no phones out right now with better screens or more powerful processors.
The best way to get the most out of your Note is learning how to use its features in your day to day.
Samsung has a nice 'key feature' app you can get on galaxy app store.
Anyways the phone's only going to get better with the release of lollipop.
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The best way to get the most out of your Note is learning how to use its features in your day to day.
Samsung has a nice 'key feature' app you can get on galaxy app store.
Anyways the phone's only going to get better with the release of lollipop.
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Would you recommend any in particular?
Do we have to redownload apps after the Lollipop update (sorry newbie question)?
No you don't have to redownload
I'm digging it. I traded in twice to get to where I am now, and went through customer service hell the last time I went into the Sprint store. So basically I paid $70 extra in restock fees to get this phone, but it's worth it. My LG G3 was suffering mild problems that I didn't want to deal with considering how much I spent on a brand new phone, and I didn't want to be locked into something I'm not perfectly satisfied with. The only thing I wish is that my phone is was black instead of white. They were out of black models, and said they didn't know when they were getting more in stock. Figured I'd suck it up and take it. I put the black flip case over it - it almost looks like an ice cream sandwich. I'm sure once I root it, I'll be in love with it. Still, I'm not sure how necessary it is for me to root it. I can remove or turn off almost all the bloat without rooting it, and there's really nothing much I feel like I'm missing out on.
The only thing is I'm not sure if I could ever actually use the S-Pen in real world situations to benefit me. I'd like to be able to take notes with it in school, but I'm just not sure how feasible it would be - and is it worth wasting the battery life instead of just using the good ol pen n paper? I tried playing some drawing multiplayer games, but they all seem desolate and empty as it takes forever to find any opponents who are actually trying to play the game. I'm not much of an artist, and I were, I'm not sure how often I'd find it practical to use the S-Pen instead of something else. I just installed the Lollipop keyboard - maybe if I try the new gesture typing with it, I'll dig typing with the pen.
Also, the screen is amazing. The difference between the G3 and Note 4 is night and day. It's great to see a 1440P phone screen not plagued by oversharpening. Games look amazing. The blacks are inky in their darkness. Screen goes 5x brighter than I'd ever need it to. The only thing I have to complain about is no cool 1440P videos preinstalled
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Have any real world examples of what you mean by this?
I got my Note 4 yesterday so here are a couple things i disagree with, 1- you dont have to buy the fast charging adapter in came with it. 2-using the s pen to write is faster that using the keyboard especially if you have fat fingers like me.
Glad you said this as I have a G3 I'm looking to upgrade to a note 4.
I'll be sure to copy the LG pre installed videos. Those look amazing on the G3. Can't imagine how they'll look on the note 4 ?
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I'm digging it. I traded in twice to get to where I am now, and went through customer service hell the last time I went into the Sprint store. So basically I paid $70 extra in restock fees to get this phone, but it's worth it. My LG G3 was suffering mild problems that I didn't want to deal with considering how much I spent on a brand new phone, and I didn't want to be locked into something I'm not perfectly satisfied with. The only thing I wish is that my phone is was black instead of white. They were out of black models, and said they didn't know when they were getting more in stock. Figured I'd suck it up and take it. I put the black flip case over it - it almost looks like an ice cream sandwich. I'm sure once I root it, I'll be in love with it. Still, I'm not sure how necessary it is for me to root it. I can remove or turn off almost all the bloat without rooting it, and there's really nothing much I feel like I'm missing out on.
The only thing is I'm not sure if I could ever actually use the S-Pen in real world situations to benefit me. I'd like to be able to take notes with it in school, but I'm just not sure how feasible it would be - and is it worth wasting the battery life instead of just using the good ol pen n paper? I tried playing some drawing multiplayer games, but they all seem desolate and empty as it takes forever to find any opponents who are actually trying to play the game. I'm not much of an artist, and I were, I'm not sure how often I'd find it practical to use the S-Pen instead of something else. I just installed the Lollipop keyboard - maybe if I try the new gesture typing with it, I'll dig typing with the pen.
Also, the screen is amazing. The difference between the G3 and Note 4 is night and day. It's great to see a 1440P phone screen not plagued by oversharpening. Games look amazing. The blacks are inky in their darkness. Screen goes 5x brighter than I'd ever need it to. The only thing I have to complain about is no cool 1440P videos preinstalled
Have any real world examples of what you mean by this?
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