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I miss my N1

So with all these new phones come out, I felt the need the update my phone. I considered the Galaxy variants, but settled on the Dell Streak. Two of my friends, choose the Samsung Captivate. So I had a chance to experience all three. Anyways I choose Dell for its 5" screen. I surf on my phone way more than I talk or game. I'm more of a productivity type than the gamer/entertainment type.
Anyways, for all of you thinking on 'upgrading' and you're on the fence about it, my advice is to wait. Its no upgrade in going to a Galaxy S, Streak, or any other device at the moment IMO.
Galaxy is nice, but its the same/same as a nexus. You get a tiny bit bigger screen, with in my opinion wrong colours; too vibrant and too pop. Nexus has way better support, lastest firmware/roms, trackball colours/wake, etc.
Dell, nice screen, I love it. Basically no kernel, no support. Its all about waiting, waiting, waiting... for Dell. Android 1.6 is good, but once you've had CM6 its hard to settle. I know theres a 2.1 leak out, but I find it too buggy.
Overall, I feel that the N1 is a far superior phone compared to others available at the moment.
So currently I'm giving the dell a go, while the nexus is a drawer. I imagine I would be switching between the two often.
Sorry for the rant.

send2toonie said:
So with all these new phones come out, I felt the need the update my phone. I considered the Galaxy variants, but settled on the Dell Streak. Two of my friends, choose the Samsung Captivate. So I had a chance to experience all three. Anyways I choose Dell for its 5" screen. I surf on my phone way more than I talk or game. I'm more of a productivity type than the gamer/entertainment type.
Anyways, for all of you thinking on 'upgrading' and you're on the fence about it, my advice is to wait. Its no upgrade in going to a Galaxy S, Streak, or any other device at the moment IMO.
Galaxy is nice, but its the same/same as a nexus. You get a tiny bit bigger screen, with in my opinion wrong colours; too vibrant and too pop. Nexus has way better support, lastest firmware/roms, trackball colours/wake, etc.
Dell, nice screen, I love it. Basically no kernel, no support. Its all about waiting, waiting, waiting... for Dell. Android 1.6 is good, but once you've had CM6 its hard to settle. I know theres a 2.1 leak out, but I find it too buggy.
Overall, I feel that the N1 is a far superior phone compared to others available at the moment.
So currently I'm giving the dell a go, while the nexus is a drawer. I imagine I would be switching between the two often.
Sorry for the rant.
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I literally agree with everything you said.
I bought the dell streak thinking it would be awesome..
It blows. So i posted something in the marketplace for a trade. and whadaya know? i have a nexus one again.
I missed it immensely. but u have it back. i suggest you do the same. if you arent happy, theres no reason not to be.

I felt the exact same way, so I bought a Galaxy S (Vibrant), thought the screen was amazing, but everything else disappointed. I returned it 1 1/2 days later and rooted my N1. So much happier now, with the same N1 I had before... Sometimes you forget what you have till its gone...

otis_bartleh said:
I felt the exact same way, so I bought a Galaxy S (Vibrant), thought the screen was amazing, but everything else disappointed. I returned it 1 1/2 days later and rooted my N1. So much happier now, with the same N1 I had before... Sometimes you forget what you have till its gone...
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literally... i am so utterly happy i have my n1 back. its the best phone still. and you cant even buy it anymore. so, with that said... OP! get your n1 back!

Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it

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Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it
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couldn't have said it better myself

melwan said:
Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it
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no kidding... When I was looking at phones, I had a feeling I wasn't gonna be keeping anything I got cuz I was benchmarking my N1 next to all the new "great" smart phones, and they all fell WAY short of my N1 (i know not a fair comparison, but thats kinda the point), as well as not having the capabilities to do what the N1 can, really was a no brainer. it was nice though to see that all the hype still can't beat this underdog N1!

Switching phones now is pretty silly.
Unless you want a keyboard (obviously), there's no reason to switch phones until the next era of mobile processors comes out. Otherwise, it's just a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
I'm waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before I even think about switching. Preferably a 4" Super AMOLED, and only Samsung can produce SAMOLED, so it'll be a long time since they just launched 4 phones.

Sidegrade was exactly the words I used when I returned it. Really, the main reason I started looking now was since there is one area my 3G drops, and I drive it all the time streaming (or trying to stream) music. The Vibrant didn't have any better reception, actually a bit worse, and there was no way I was going to pay $300 if that problem wasn't fixed, and to have to wait for a crippled froyo. The ONLY thing that was better about the Vibrant was the screen, and not by much, only in direct sunlight was it that much better. It even felt cheap.

well, I love these threads cause I got both.
The n1 is a great device and theres probably no need to upgrade/sidegrade to anything else.
BUT wow guys. Im not saying the vibrant/ sgs smokes the n1 cause it dont.
But give the phone credit when its due.
SIDEGRADE? wow, 16gb(2gb for apps) of rom vs 512mbs (195mb total after os takes rest).
the video camera kicks the n1s azs even with the 720p hack.
GPU smaaaaaaaaashes the n1s, eats it alive http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ I love my n1 but this makes me crinnnnge.. lol
Super amoled makes my n1s amoled look like crap, the blacks are greyish on the n1 compared to the vibrant.
Real MT screen, I love the n1 for browsing, but when the fuking thing cant even pinch to peak in the gallery properly without fanning out the wrong way then back the other and back again, and in simple games it cant register the right finger when the iphone 2g could, thats just plain junk. The vibrants hands down can detect multiple fingers I believe unlimited.
just over all better touch screen. Besides the MT the vibrants is just smoother, responds faster and just feels better.
Yes the N1 has it beat in a few areas as well. Build quality (although the vibrants isnt bad), but I never drop my phone anyways, and honestly the heavier n1 would probably suffer a bigger ding in the metal edges vs the lighter vibrants would.. Just my opinion
The n1 has notifications and I miss my trackball baaaaad
Also the n1s has a flash and the damn vibrant dont. boo. But it does have night view and the n1 even with flash cant replicate some of these types of photos.
The n1 will be updated to Gingerbread first yes, but honestly do you think it will still be in the light mid 2011? No way, not with way better hardware coming. Also the SGS will be on all carriers and have way more people with them. There will be tons of Development its just begun. I believe in the next few months it may surpase the N1s....
My opinion is they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but a better touch screen, better video recording, way more memory, and a better gpu outweights a light on the phone, trackball and updates which at that point the vibrant will get anyways by custom roms etc.
Just my opinion. I got both, the Vibrant is the better phone in my opinion. By a lot? Maybe not, but dont sell the SGS out like its not as good as the n1. Cause thats just retarded.

@smashpunks:
I see your point, and was with you until the retarded comment. That was just unnecessary... I could care less about the video camera, my multitouch works fine on my N1, is WAY faster to respond and react than the Vibrant (don't even understand how you could have felt the opposite), I don't game or watch movies on my phone, and have no issues with the internal memory. And so you say the N1 will be essentially obsolete mid 2011, I might be able to agree with that considering whats around the corner; however, the Galaxy S is not that far advanced over the N1 where it will be around longer than it, in my opinion. So, for me, the galaxy s ONLY had the nicer screen in direct sunlight going for it.
So given what I use my phone for and how I use it, the N1 is still far superior to the Vibrant,or for that matter, the Droid X, 2, and Incredible, and I would have been retarded to keep the Vibrant.

otis_bartleh said:
@smashpunks:
I see your point, and was with you until the retarded comment. That was just unnecessary... I could care less about the video camera, my multitouch works fine on my N1, is WAY faster to respond and react than the Vibrant (don't even understand how you could have felt the opposite), I don't game or watch movies on my phone, and have no issues with the internal memory. And so you say the N1 will be essentially obsolete mid 2011, I might be able to agree with that considering whats around the corner; however, the Galaxy S is not that far advanced over the N1 where it will be around longer than it, in my opinion. So, for me, the galaxy s ONLY had the nicer screen in direct sunlight going for it.
So given what I use my phone for and how I use it, the N1 is still far superior to the Vibrant,or for that matter, the Droid X, 2, and Incredible, and I would have been retarded to keep the Vibrant.
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Confused person. By far superior you mean less specd right?
I got both. Niether is farrrrr superior lol

I know what I meant, and it is what I said. I had both, returned the Vibrant. I'm not here to bicker, and obviously I'm not the only one that likes the N1 better, isn't that the point of the thread?!

otis_bartleh said:
I know what I meant, and it is what I said. I had both, returned the Vibrant. I'm not here to bicker, and obviously I'm not the only one that likes the N1 better, isn't that the point of the thread?!
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We are in a n1 thread. Biased going on. Vibrant is better

smashpunks said:
well, I love these threads cause I got both.
The n1 is a great device and theres probably no need to upgrade/sidegrade to anything else.
BUT wow guys. Im not saying the vibrant/ sgs smokes the n1 cause it dont.
But give the phone credit when its due.
SIDEGRADE? wow, 16gb(2gb for apps) of rom vs 512mbs (195mb total after os takes rest).
the video camera kicks the n1s azs even with the 720p hack.
GPU smaaaaaaaaashes the n1s, eats it alive http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ I love my n1 but this makes me crinnnnge.. lol
Super amoled makes my n1s amoled look like crap, the blacks are greyish on the n1 compared to the vibrant.
Real MT screen, I love the n1 for browsing, but when the fuking thing cant even pinch to peak in the gallery properly without fanning out the wrong way then back the other and back again, and in simple games it cant register the right finger when the iphone 2g could, thats just plain junk. The vibrants hands down can detect multiple fingers I believe unlimited.
just over all better touch screen. Besides the MT the vibrants is just smoother, responds faster and just feels better.
Yes the N1 has it beat in a few areas as well. Build quality (although the vibrants isnt bad), but I never drop my phone anyways, and honestly the heavier n1 would probably suffer a bigger ding in the metal edges vs the lighter vibrants would.. Just my opinion
The n1 has notifications and I miss my trackball baaaaad
Also the n1s has a flash and the damn vibrant dont. boo. But it does have night view and the n1 even with flash cant replicate some of these types of photos.
The n1 will be updated to Gingerbread first yes, but honestly do you think it will still be in the light mid 2011? No way, not with way better hardware coming. Also the SGS will be on all carriers and have way more people with them. There will be tons of Development its just begun. I believe in the next few months it may surpase the N1s....
My opinion is they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but a better touch screen, better video recording, way more memory, and a better gpu outweights a light on the phone, trackball and updates which at that point the vibrant will get anyways by custom roms etc.
Just my opinion. I got both, the Vibrant is the better phone in my opinion. By a lot? Maybe not, but dont sell the SGS out like its not as good as the n1. Cause thats just retarded.
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Use barcode scanner on my avatar and do that, ass.

I guess it depends on how each person defines an upgrade.

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We are in a n1 thread. Biased going on. Vibrant is better
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Man, you sound like a little kid nah nah on the playground. The point is preference. You don't seem to get that through your thick skull. You wasting your time trying to sell people on that plastic piece of ****. Especially here. This N1 straight up and down. And the only retarded person is the one who spends his money on a side grade rather than an upgrade.

I see ur points and agree with you.
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Just as I suspected. I was slightly tempted to get a Galaxy S, but I was very leery because of this. Yeah it's got a bigger screen and nicer GPU, but it's not quite the radical upgrade you'd get if you went from a humdrum office PC to an i7 gaming rig with the latest-and-greatest card from ATI--and at this point, to get me to upgrade from N1, the difference will have to be pretty radical. Bring on the dual-core phones!

kamasi36 said:
Man, you sound like a little kid nah nah on the playground. The point is preference. You don't seem to get that through your thick skull. You wasting your time trying to sell people on that plastic piece of ****. Especially here. This N1 straight up and down. And the only retarded person is the one who spends his money on a side grade rather than an upgrade.
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You just said preference, now im retarded for getting a phone that I prefere. Isnt that kinda like a oxymoron statement and kinda a little hypocrytical.. lol
That post shows your anger. Poor little n1 getting smashed to pieces by the SGS. lmaoooo @ 12 fps on neno mark 1 vs 44fps on the SGS.. lmaooo
1400 quadrant score on n1 vs 2300 on sgs without froyo.
28 fps in neocore on n1 vs 55 fps on sgs
Linpack is only thing n1 wins in and will see if thats the case soon.
Give it up. There are a few phones that are better than the n1 now. DROIDX, DROID2, SGS and soon the dual cores.
Remember the Hummingbird can safely over clock to 1.6ghz I cant wait for that.
THE n1 is cool and im not tying to convince anyone, I just want you to know that there are other phones equal to the n1 (evo, incredible etc) and a few that surpass it. I couldnt stand the
-Crappy MT screen/sgs is better
-Buggy MT screen/ sgs dont bug out (why have a buggy screen when thats what you use most on the phone same with MT?) You got a touch screen phone that cant distinguish 2 fingers. lol
-Crappy video recording/sgs is way better
-Crappy gaming quality (asphalt 5 looks like crap vs the sgs)/ sgs is better
-Cant play even simple MT like PONG
-regular amoled when theres super/super amoled makes the regular look like poop.
-LOW ROM, even with apps2sd the data in your app spaced filled up(sgs has so much I dont ever have to worry). SGS Wins there also
-Crappy WIFI issue
-METAL ON THE BACK WOULD get way hott. Plastic doesnt conduct as much heat.
-JUST a tad small, 4.3 is too big, 4.0 hit the spot.
-Shatty 3g issue. 1.covering the back loses signal (happens in a lot of phones so its not a biggie) 2. Just wont stay on 3g when not in a strong signal area. My SGS will stay on 3g by itself instead of having to force hack 3g. lol
-only sold online.. pfffft.
I just dont see how you couldnt thing the SGS is a upgrade. Its got the better, CPU, GPU, MEMORY, VIDEO CAMERA, CAMERA, SCREEN, MT SENSORS, 6 axis accelerometer and JUST all around a MORE comfortable experience. N1 wins in what? Development? and Notifications? Wow. yea the n1 is better.... lol Stop lying to yourselves.
Now you may prefere the n1, thats fine, but as it being better? no, better for you? maybe, but the SGS definetely has the 1 up on just about every spec...
N1 rocks man dont get me wrong, but its just not the phone that the SGS is and is capable of. We have only scratched the surface of what this phone can do especially with a OC kernal that will handle 1.6 overclocked.
Edit: here's a video I just saw. Now basically the sgs performs slightly faster, opening apps and browsing. This is without froyo yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=i6T5I9hmVIU
Also notice the ****ty pinch and zoom on the n1 vs sgs and look at the choppier scrolling vs the smoother sgs. Remember this is without froyo/jit a serious performance upgrade....
N1 is cool, bit the sgs beats it. Even the blacks on the n1 are ugly... sgs ftw.

Poll: With no penalty, would you return your Galaxy S i9000?

I've just upgraded from a Topaz to the Galaxy S I9000, and it's been great so far. "So far" being less than 12 hours. However, after reading the forums here, I have my doubts about its performance in the long term.
I understand that the forum will be biased; This is a place for folks who like to hack and tinker with their devices, and those who seek a resolution to a problem that the manufacturer won't resolve, so I expect to see a lot of issues posted on the forum. However, when the issue involves features I use frequently (GPS predominantly) I get concerned. Further, there's the issue with an Android 2.2 release date; I see posts saying it's ready, posts saying it's not, posts saying Samsung are fixing bugs, and more worryingly posts saying Samsung make phones for people to buy, then abandon them!
So, my question is:
"You have the option of being released from your contract without penalty, or have an unlimited term money-back guarantee from your supplier, covering issues stemming from the build quality of the device itself, or Samsung support being useless. If you like, an unlimited warranty offering you money back. Would you, knowing what you do now, return your Galaxy S I9000 and acquire a different model of phone?"
If you answer "Yes" could you put a short note on here saying why?
Thanks for your time.

Short answer, no.
Gps can be an issue sure, but I've found it better with the updates, I use it every day to track my bike to work and its very good.
But lets be honest, this is a phone, one of it's other functions is GPS, I wouldn't expect the camera to perform at the same level as a stand alone camera, so I think some of the complaints that the GPS takes time to lock isnt fair, if you want something as fast as a standalone GPS buy a GPS unit.
As for samsung updates again I think the general feeling is somewhat over the top.
It would be understandable if there was no news, no betas and no hope, how ever there have been updates, many many betas and we know it's coming, this to me shows that unlike older sammy phones we will get the updates (2.2)
I'm not a sammy fanboi, I came from mapple 2/3g 3gs,
I've had my phone since launch and I still love the many good things about it, I brought this sim free and im due an upgrade in 3 months, but unless the samsung beam is out here ill be sticking to my sgs untill late next year and the sgs2.
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Yes I would but ill be getting the same model again, I just want my IMEI fixed.. it was rude of samsung to put a bomb on JPC.

EarlZ said:
Yes I would but ill be getting the same model again, I just want my IMEI fixed.. it was rude of samsung to put a bomb on JPC.
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I wouldn't call it rude.. It's your own fault for messing with leaked pre-releases...
But I would, but only to buy a new one again (because the casing is getting a bit rough). I guess I might also consider the Desire HD too (since it apparently has more RAM, a product of evolution), but realistically, I'm happy with the SGS now.
Sipdroid seems to have released 1.6beta too, which supposedly targets the I9000 compatibility issue, so if it works, then when my skype credits expire, I'll be even happier.
Personally, I think the lag is mostly overrated still..

Thanks for your input so far folks.
Just to point you to the last line of my question; Would you swap out for a different model of handset or refund? This isn't about replacing it for another Galaxy S; I want to know who's happy with it, who isn't happy with it, and why.

I wouldnt mind to change the phone mostly cause of bad manufacture... the frame make so much noises on top ( at the usb gate).
Wont even mention gps cause its a known problem
tbh i am thinking of taking the phone for repairs if they dont fix the gps and claim a refund or a new phone

Personally I would change the phone.
After the dissapointment of having a phone which in reality only half works and thats with hacks/fixes, I wished I had waited a bit longer for a Desire HD,etc.
The only plus point of this phone now to me is the screen size and quality.
If the desire HD, etc can match the screen then i would swap in a heart beat.
In hindsight i should of known samsung would **** it all up and never actually fix the problem,i thought they would being android with the system using android. Looks like i was wrong.

Oh, heck no...

this phone is too good to be replaced anytime soon.
there is nothing better out in the market yet, specially nothing with a SAMOLED screen

hmm.... in simple words samsung galaxy s is the most advanced and looks better than any other android phone , it has the biggest screen and is very light weight , yet a very powerfull device .. so all these features makes it the best available phone in the market today..
so now coming back to your question..
"Would you return your Galaxy S I9000 and acquire a different model of phone?"
there is no choice right now.. all the other handsets like htc desire, lg optimus, wildfire, etc etc... do not match up to samsung galaxy
and i think the only better phone than samsung galaxy s right now would be
htc desire hd.. and i m sure it might be surely atleast 25% more expensive than the galaxy s.. so there is no competition between the two..
so the bottom line is that .. samsung galaxy s is the best in the class right now

^^ I concur!
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and Desire HD does not come with SAMOLED screen
what can i say... SAMOLED screen is like better than any other high you can get on the market, you get the taste of it once, and you keep coming back wanting more
anything less will just not give you the same high....
devabhishek said:
hmm.... in simple words samsung galaxy s is the most advanced and looks better than any other android phone , it has the biggest screen and is very light weight , yet a very powerfull device .. so all these features makes it the best available phone in the market today..
so now coming back to your question..
"Would you return your Galaxy S I9000 and acquire a different model of phone?"
there is no choice right now.. all the other handsets like htc desire, lg optimus, wildfire, etc etc... do not match up to samsung galaxy
and i think the only better phone than samsung galaxy s right now would be
htc desire hd.. and i m sure it might be surely atleast 25% more expensive than the galaxy s.. so there is no competition between the two..
so the bottom line is that .. samsung galaxy s is the best in the class right now
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Personally, I don't think there is enough information yet to judge if the new Desire is better...
Realistically, the devices are mostly the same (if the GPS is in fact fixed), and on both of them, I'd probably end up installing Cyanogenmod anyway. I purchased my phone as a tool, and the last few days have truly made it more useful (with Skype being released officially, and Sipdroid being apparently fixed in 1.6beta).
Obviously though, if newer devices with better hardware are released, obviously changing phone makes sense.

andrewluecke said:
Obviously though, if newer devices with better hardware are released, obviously changing phone makes sense.
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AllGamer said:
and Desire HD does not come with SAMOLED screen
what can i say... SAMOLED screen is like better than any other high you can get on the market, you get the taste of it once, and you keep coming back wanting more
anything less will just not give you the same high....
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yup... thats true

I've cheated slightly, and not posted that I've used an HTC Desire for the past few months, and I really liked that phone. Sense UI is phenomenal, the phone itself is wonderfully capable and I know it has Froyo out on all the UK carriers now.
Saying that, I've not had the GPS problem (slight deviation on the way home yesterday, but nothing serious), and as everyone says the screen is divine. Still, I can't help but think that the serious lag issues (which are noticeable even when performing simple tasks like moving between sections in Android Market) is just one more example of how Samsung roll; Release great hardware, cripple it with buggy software, forget about it while you work on the new shiny-shiny.
I'll see how it fairs over the weekend, and check up more on the Desire HD, and hopefully between the two I'll have a wicked phone I enjoy for the next couple of years!
Thanks for all of your input, it's genuinely appreciated

[Q] love my SGS classic, why buy a SGS II ?

Hi,
Not a troll or flamebait, but I really can't find any reason to let go of
my trusty SGS (one) to get a shiny SGS II. A friend showed me his II and
it is taller than the classic and not really thiner (it seemed to me).
So the II would stick out a bit more from my pocket.
Is there any good reason to "upgrade" to a SGS II?

In my opinion the the upgrade from SGS to SGS II isnt worth the 500€, or well more like 300€ since you can probably get 200€+ from your SGS

Dual core, 1 GB RAM, SAMOLED+, 1080p recording, TW4... The list goes on and on.
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I got a SGS Galaxy II for a friend of mine, and could buy another for me heavily discounted, and still I didn't think twice and didn't upgrade from my precious i9000.
SGS Galaxy II advantages are minimal for my needs, there is no real breakthrough.
Probably will only upgrade when my i9000 dies on me.

I'm waiting for SGS3 as it will propably be 3D phone. I9000 to i9100 is too small upgrade for me as my i9000 can do 95% as smooth as I9100 games i play and roms i use.
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HDMI, better CPU, much more RAM,... if it had 720p screen, I'd be drolling over it

I think the biggest difference I noticed when I played with one at the store, besides the RAM, was the faster SD speed. Installing apps seemed to be about 2-4x faster than on my SGS. Angry Birds, large program, installed pretty quickly maybe 5-7 seconds while it would be a bit of a wait 15+ seconds on my SGS. I would guess that the faster SD is mostly what makes the device much quicker and less laggy overall.
Still not dropping the cash to buy one though. I'll just want next year's model when it comes out...so I'll play with SGS gingerbread roms in the meantime to relax my trigger finger for now.

I would have upgraded in a heartbeat if the SGS2 would have had the exact identical form factor as the SGS.
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal until I got to try my friends phone.
It was an instant deal-killer after using it...

ccrows said:
I would have upgraded in a heartbeat if the SGS2 would have had the exact identical form factor as the SGS.
I didn't think it would be that big of a deal until I got to try my friends phone.
It was an instant deal-killer after using it...
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Agreed!!! I hope the SGS 3, comes with a 4.3" screen while still retaining the form factor similar to SGS (width in particular, should be lower as in SE Arc). If nothing works, 4" still would be enough.
For me, two things, that SGS 2 will definitely fix are the memory issue (browser tabs's data being lost, after multitasking) and maybe the GPS. (have tried most of the fixes, but voice navigation in car doesn't work all that well. maybe limitation of a mobile device, but I have a feeling SGS2 would fare much better).

Its too much too soon IMO.
Ive only had my SGS 1 for 7 months now, Upgrading to the SGS 2 is bizzare lol,
I mean, if i had the cash spare, i probably would, as would anyone else. But to me £200/300 is just waaaay to much for little gain.. Theres so much more that money could do for me.
Maybe in another 6 months i may think about the upgrade, But im loving my SGS 1 at the moment, Running MIUI, super smooth super fast, TW4 launcher, Great GPS, 720p recording, and lots more..... I dont need much more from a phone really.

I am going through the same debate in my head. I LOVE my sgs but the sgs2 is very tempting. For me the main pros are:
-Bigger screen
-Bigger battery
-Faster
-Camera flash
-Better/working gps (this is my assumption, anyone confirm?)
-The form factor, current sgs reminds me too much of an iphone.
-Hdmi out

I love my SGS.. The SGS2 looks much 'squarer' imo.

ok let me say my experience:
after buying the sgsII over the original, I can confirm that all the pros which people claimed r true
what is the difference between pentium 3 and 4? its nothing but the speed and performance.
having said that I gave sgs+cm 7 to my wife and she is pretty happy with it
this phone is not dead .....yet
so does the big question is SHALL U GUYS UPGRADE ??
I got my phone by a contract upgrade cause I needed to get a contract anyway
I am paying £27 for free phone+300min+unlimited sms+500mb on O2
but if I dont have the upgrade yet I would stay patient for couple of months waiting for the prices to fall.
Summary: this phone is a big leap on the old one, ull c the improvements in every single element . However, its worth holding ur breaths for a short while

I owned the S1 for 11 months, Initially I never thought the S2 would really offer anything better apart from the bigger screen and 50% more subpixels which is not noticeable anyway, but when I got the phone the speed difference is just amazing and I've decked out the SGS1 with tweaks (OneNAND mode / SpeedMod / 1.4Ghz OC) The difference is just so huge, w/o using the S2 you can say that the S1 is pretty smooth but once you start yung the S2 you can really say that the S1 was just fooling you in terms of smoothness. Multi tasking is awesome on the phone, no waiting time when switching between apps/tasks the phone is actually waiting on you. Its pretty impressive and worth the jump for me.. Imagine this is running on an OS with almost no dualcore optimizations..
The only edge the S1 has over the S2 is the quality control of the screen on the S1 is far far better than the S2.

EarlZ said:
I owned the S1 for 11 months, Initially I never thought the S2 would really offer anything better apart from the bigger screen and 50% more subpixels which is not noticeable anyway, but when I got the phone the speed difference is just amazing and I've decked out the SGS1 with tweaks (OneNAND mode / SpeedMod / 1.4Ghz OC) The difference is just so huge, w/o using the S2 you can say that the S1 is pretty smooth but once you start yung the S2 you can really say that the S1 was just fooling you in terms of smoothness. Multi tasking is awesome on the phone, no waiting time when switching between apps/tasks the phone is actually waiting on you. Its pretty impressive and worth the jump for me.. Imagine this is running on an OS with almost no dualcore optimizations..
The only edge the S1 has over the S2 is the quality control of the screen on the S1 is far far better than the S2.
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You mean 25% more sub-pixels? Green, Blue, Red and now with SAmoled+ also Yellow?
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Jobiza said:
You mean 25% more sub-pixels? Green, Blue, Red and now with SAmoled+ also Yellow?
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No, it's 50% more.
The SGS is:
R G | B G | R G
The SGS II is:
R G B | R G B | R G B
In both cases, 3 pixels. One has 6 subpixels, the other 9.
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Hrithan2020 said:
Agreed!!! I hope the SGS 3, comes with a 4.3" screen while still retaining the form factor similar to SGS (width in particular, should be lower as in SE Arc). If nothing works, 4" still would be enough.
For me, two things, that SGS 2 will definitely fix are the memory issue (browser tabs's data being lost, after multitasking) and maybe the GPS. (have tried most of the fixes, but voice navigation in car doesn't work all that well. maybe limitation of a mobile device, but I have a feeling SGS2 would fare much better).
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For anyone having issues or even a slow GPS on the SGS, take a look at this thread.
This virtually fixed all of my GPS issues just by applying OP's config...

Dual Core & 1Gb RAM of the SGS2 is very tempting! But because I'm a music fan, I really hate the Yamaha DAC on the SGS2. Tested it a couple of times and it just blows a$$!
SGS1 + Voodoo is so much better!
I'm still waiting for the next batch of SGS2 that will have Wolfson DAC in it and probably 1.4Ghz Processor & bigger internal memory!

ccrows said:
For anyone having issues or even a slow GPS on the SGS, take a look at this thread.
This virtually fixed all of my GPS issues just by applying OP's config...
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I have found that in general these fixes, would increase the locking speed. But, didn't find it to perform very well, when it comes to tracking the device when moving. (maybe, that is the limit of SGS? inside car, with windows closed, there is bound to be quite a lot of attenuation)

currently using galnets miui on the sgs...I'm also not sure whether or not the upgrade to the sgs2 is worthy (yet) ?
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[Q] Is galaxy note actually worth, because...

hey y'all..
I currently own a nokia n96..it used ta be the bomb a few years back before android dived out of nowhere..
I am guna buy the gnote in 1st week of june..
I just am in luv wit it, but with the galaxy s3 coming on may 3rd.
Should i go for gnote monster, or order the samsung s3 when it comes..due to the quad core reason nd rumored 12MP camera.
Still i think that the gnotes screen and the upcoming special luxury ics update coming, it cud be betr.
But plz stil heeeelp.!

Frankly, I don't see why would one actually need a quad-core, except for heavy gaming. Note's dual-core is more than capable to deal with any tasks I can think of, and then some. Also, 8mpix picture quality is more than enough for photo amateurs.
OTOH, Note's screen experience is second to none. You can even run it in tablet mode if you wish.
Note's only drawback is that you won't be able to switch to small phones once you start to use it.
SGSII feels like Toys-R-Us to me now.

chasmodo said:
Frankly, I don't see why would one actually need a quad-core, except for heavy gaming. Note's dual-core is more than capable to deal with any tasks I can think of, and then some. Also, 8mpix picture quality is more than enough for photo amateurs.
OTOH, Note's screen experience is second to none. You can even run it in tablet mode if you wish.
Note's only drawback is that you won't be able to switch to small phones once you start to use it.
SGSII feels like Toys-R-Us to me now.
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SCREEN! The Screen is amazing, and honestly after using it a while I can't use any other screen anymore. Once you used this since all other phones seems for me as they are wrong. Childish, I not understand how I used them all the years.
To the Galaxy S3, let's wait what we actually are getting. quad-core, well sounds great, but the Note is flying compared to anything I had in my hands so far. I am not saying I have no look to the S3, but still the Note is the business tool I use 24/7. I even retired my ipad. The size and weight of the Note is perfectly fitting my needs.

The only reason to go with Quad-Core S3 is that Note might be too big. If it's not - go for Note. Seriously, you won't use even 50% of this CPU, not now, probably not even in a year.

should i b scared of buyin gnote, as i throw my phone a lot!?!
duudes.., main thing..should i root it after buying 'coz i reali dnt kno how cud it make the 'gnote' any betr..
I was thnking of getin launcher like adw ex launcher and make my fone like the one on youtube..just search for 'coldfusTion' on youtube nd i luv his homescreens.
Is ther anythin betr than that, if so plz inform?
Nd any tips?
Hollâ

begimaad said:
duudes.., main thing..should i root it after buying 'coz i reali dnt kno how cud it make the 'gnote' any betr..
I was thnking of getin launcher like adw ex launcher and make my fone like the one on youtube..just search for 'coldfusTion' on youtube nd i luv his homescreens.
Is ther anythin betr than that, if so plz inform?
Nd any tips?
Hollâ
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i have adw and its great. If you do your homework you can get stock rom to your liking without flashing custom rom. Just takes a lot of time. Also remeber to backup your settings in adw.
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Well LG is coming out with a large screen phablet. And HTC seems to be working on one with one nice specs as well (1080p screen!) Who knows when they are hitting though.

as a note owner, I would say if you are going to make the jump, wait for the quad-core note to come out. Then go

if the quad-core note should ever come out.. im not going to jump to the bandwagon unless Sammy can compensate the battery performance of a quad-core device...
we all know what's going on in OneX forums.. their primary concerns are though they have a quad-core phone up on their sleeves... the battery is better left unsaid... it last for just hours, barely making it even a day...
If we have to wait for quad-core phones, Manufacturers like Sammy itself should make up their ante to put a battery that would match it's processing power.....

I'd say wait for the SIII then decide , I've used an SII and now the note ,they are both fine devices but the S2 felt that little more refined than the Note.
Samsung takes more care of it's S- flagships than other Galaxy members.
as for quad cores being not needed now ,true but what about the future?
all I'm saying is wait and see ,in the end they are both very high end devices .

just got two mails conforming 1.4ghz exynos quad core on siii.
Is adw supported on ics?nd shud i format my fone when ics comes for gnote.

the quad core exynos yields 20% in battery savings compared to the dual core, from what sammy reports
also, pin to pin, it is the same as the dual core, so if samsung ever decides to upgrade the Note, it'll be a quick and easy update.
how nice it would be if we could change processors on our mobiles just like how we do on our own PCs.....
that aside, wait for the S3 and see what kind of screen it has. Super AMOLED on the Note is vibrant, no doubt, but the S2's SA Plus looks even better.

yeaaa..that wudave been great..installing new processors..bt i dnt thnk tht wud happen fr abt 5 or 6 years lol.
May 3rd cumin closer nd closer..
Any guess that how much would the s3 cost in euros!?my budget is €500..

guitarplayerone said:
as a note owner, I would say if you are going to make the jump, wait for the quad-core note to come out. Then go
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Quadcore anything would devour your battery in a couple of hours.

jeremy.chan said:
the quad core exynos yields 20% in battery savings compared to the dual core, from what sammy reports
also, pin to pin, it is the same as the dual core, so if samsung ever decides to upgrade the Note, it'll be a quick and easy update.
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This means that the Note2 will be able to use LESS power for the same load - i.e. for anything when not running 100% load.
Sure, if you are running it flat out then it will eat battery faster, but then there's a good chance if you're using maximum performance (recoding a video?) it'll take the same amount of energy just use it faster!
I can't see Samsung not producing a Note2-QC/4412.
What would also be nice is a super-amoled-plus-plus-true-hd+ screen.
I have sat on the fence about buying a Note, if the Note1 was heavily discounted I would consider one, but, I would probably regret not waiting for a couple months to get a Note2 once initial prices settled below "crazy".
But then I also like the padfone, which also has a pen.

Did I buy the right phone...n

I'm currently on a Samsung SIII with KitKat (omnirom), but because my daughter's phone broke down it's going to her after I get my new phone. I wanted to buy a Nexus 5, but it's sold out in the Netherlands even though it's € 400,- instead of € 350,- Because I was in a hurry I opted for an S4-active. I had some water damage with a HTC HD2 in the past and this one is probably better equipped in that respect. I already read enough to avoid putting it under water on purpose.
But...
I did get a bit of a scare when I looked for custom ROMs in this thread. Why are there so few options? Is this phone so different?
Maybe I should have waited a bit longer or even try to get a Nexus 5 from Germany.
Can someone give me an advice what to flash when my phone arrives? I don't like all the Samsung bloatware and don't mind to run cyanogenmod.
Cheers

I find this phone to be an almost perfect match for me.
I don't take underwater photos, but I love watching online content while I take a bath. I would never do this with any other phone. It's decided to take a few dips in the tub with me, but just pulling it out and drying it off it doesn't miss a beat.
The lack of custom roms/kernals is a bit disappointing, but I find that with the safestrap and Google stock rom I'm able to reach an experience that I can enjoy.
The screen was a sell for me hands down. I hate the new pentile style screens that cause blurriness in the display. Despite many people telling me it's not humanly possible to tell on such a small screen. When I see a flat red/blue color on the normal S4 screen it looks absolutely disgusting (Think 540p resolution because of the 1:2 ratio of pentile to rgb)

Thanks for your elaborate reply. I went to the safestrap thread. Is this only for the AT&T version or is it for my international version as well?
You're talking about Google stock.. do you mean cyanogenmod?
I hope to hear more from you
Cheers

The limited ROM development is quite disappointing but I think it's because the market that would've normally bought this device had already largely bought the s4.
I use the CyanogenMod ROM. It works quite well. The camera works but it's unstable. LTE is great .
I agree with Celeste, the display is amazingly good, especially considering it is LCD based. The phone is also the only device I know of that combines both the features of Exynos 5 (which features the BIG.little CPU design) and LTE in one package.
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I don't use Cyanogen, just the Stock Google 4.2 Rom that's in one of the development threads.
I haven't seen any of the features of most customized roms to be appealing enough to me, and I'm always afraid the features will end up adding larger overhead to the system.
I really enjoy 60fps content whenever I'm playing around and the jitter that happens whenever other processes get in the way of displaying the next frame always seem to irk me a bit.

I'm actually about to sell my active to buy a nexus 5, due to the limited rom development. Just waiting for the 32Gb model to reach Sweden.
I've got the international version as well, and as you've noted we don't have much to choose from - safestrap won't work for us. I run cyanogenmod and it mostly works, has a few quirks particularly when it comes to the camera that has me rebooting now and then. I don't think anyone can answer if you bought the right phone or not, it really comes down to if you can live with one of the existing roms or not - because there isn't likely to ever be many roms to choose from. This phone just didn't get a breakthrough and there just isn't enough users out there to get the development really going. The hardware is good, the screen is phenomenal, but that's not all there is to a phone for me.
Try out the roms, and if they don't scratch your itch... sell it and get something else.

Thanks for all the info...
I already have the files in place to flash when it arrives tomorrow.
I think I'm going to flash it to Google's
If only we would have the same deals as our German neighbours...
€ 350,- is still even much more than $ 350,-
They could at least have given us the 32 MB model for that price.
Otherwise I would have waited for the Nexus...