I miss my N1 - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So with all these new phones come out, I felt the need the update my phone. I considered the Galaxy variants, but settled on the Dell Streak. Two of my friends, choose the Samsung Captivate. So I had a chance to experience all three. Anyways I choose Dell for its 5" screen. I surf on my phone way more than I talk or game. I'm more of a productivity type than the gamer/entertainment type.
Anyways, for all of you thinking on 'upgrading' and you're on the fence about it, my advice is to wait. Its no upgrade in going to a Galaxy S, Streak, or any other device at the moment IMO.
Galaxy is nice, but its the same/same as a nexus. You get a tiny bit bigger screen, with in my opinion wrong colours; too vibrant and too pop. Nexus has way better support, lastest firmware/roms, trackball colours/wake, etc.
Dell, nice screen, I love it. Basically no kernel, no support. Its all about waiting, waiting, waiting... for Dell. Android 1.6 is good, but once you've had CM6 its hard to settle. I know theres a 2.1 leak out, but I find it too buggy.
Overall, I feel that the N1 is a far superior phone compared to others available at the moment.
So currently I'm giving the dell a go, while the nexus is a drawer. I imagine I would be switching between the two often.
Sorry for the rant.

send2toonie said:
So with all these new phones come out, I felt the need the update my phone. I considered the Galaxy variants, but settled on the Dell Streak. Two of my friends, choose the Samsung Captivate. So I had a chance to experience all three. Anyways I choose Dell for its 5" screen. I surf on my phone way more than I talk or game. I'm more of a productivity type than the gamer/entertainment type.
Anyways, for all of you thinking on 'upgrading' and you're on the fence about it, my advice is to wait. Its no upgrade in going to a Galaxy S, Streak, or any other device at the moment IMO.
Galaxy is nice, but its the same/same as a nexus. You get a tiny bit bigger screen, with in my opinion wrong colours; too vibrant and too pop. Nexus has way better support, lastest firmware/roms, trackball colours/wake, etc.
Dell, nice screen, I love it. Basically no kernel, no support. Its all about waiting, waiting, waiting... for Dell. Android 1.6 is good, but once you've had CM6 its hard to settle. I know theres a 2.1 leak out, but I find it too buggy.
Overall, I feel that the N1 is a far superior phone compared to others available at the moment.
So currently I'm giving the dell a go, while the nexus is a drawer. I imagine I would be switching between the two often.
Sorry for the rant.
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I literally agree with everything you said.
I bought the dell streak thinking it would be awesome..
It blows. So i posted something in the marketplace for a trade. and whadaya know? i have a nexus one again.
I missed it immensely. but u have it back. i suggest you do the same. if you arent happy, theres no reason not to be.

I felt the exact same way, so I bought a Galaxy S (Vibrant), thought the screen was amazing, but everything else disappointed. I returned it 1 1/2 days later and rooted my N1. So much happier now, with the same N1 I had before... Sometimes you forget what you have till its gone...

otis_bartleh said:
I felt the exact same way, so I bought a Galaxy S (Vibrant), thought the screen was amazing, but everything else disappointed. I returned it 1 1/2 days later and rooted my N1. So much happier now, with the same N1 I had before... Sometimes you forget what you have till its gone...
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literally... i am so utterly happy i have my n1 back. its the best phone still. and you cant even buy it anymore. so, with that said... OP! get your n1 back!

Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it

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Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it
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couldn't have said it better myself

melwan said:
Just because there are so many new phone coming out, it does not mean there is a "need" to upgrade. The N1 was and is still top of the line. Other phones are still catching up to it
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no kidding... When I was looking at phones, I had a feeling I wasn't gonna be keeping anything I got cuz I was benchmarking my N1 next to all the new "great" smart phones, and they all fell WAY short of my N1 (i know not a fair comparison, but thats kinda the point), as well as not having the capabilities to do what the N1 can, really was a no brainer. it was nice though to see that all the hype still can't beat this underdog N1!

Switching phones now is pretty silly.
Unless you want a keyboard (obviously), there's no reason to switch phones until the next era of mobile processors comes out. Otherwise, it's just a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
I'm waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before I even think about switching. Preferably a 4" Super AMOLED, and only Samsung can produce SAMOLED, so it'll be a long time since they just launched 4 phones.

Sidegrade was exactly the words I used when I returned it. Really, the main reason I started looking now was since there is one area my 3G drops, and I drive it all the time streaming (or trying to stream) music. The Vibrant didn't have any better reception, actually a bit worse, and there was no way I was going to pay $300 if that problem wasn't fixed, and to have to wait for a crippled froyo. The ONLY thing that was better about the Vibrant was the screen, and not by much, only in direct sunlight was it that much better. It even felt cheap.

well, I love these threads cause I got both.
The n1 is a great device and theres probably no need to upgrade/sidegrade to anything else.
BUT wow guys. Im not saying the vibrant/ sgs smokes the n1 cause it dont.
But give the phone credit when its due.
SIDEGRADE? wow, 16gb(2gb for apps) of rom vs 512mbs (195mb total after os takes rest).
the video camera kicks the n1s azs even with the 720p hack.
GPU smaaaaaaaaashes the n1s, eats it alive http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ I love my n1 but this makes me crinnnnge.. lol
Super amoled makes my n1s amoled look like crap, the blacks are greyish on the n1 compared to the vibrant.
Real MT screen, I love the n1 for browsing, but when the fuking thing cant even pinch to peak in the gallery properly without fanning out the wrong way then back the other and back again, and in simple games it cant register the right finger when the iphone 2g could, thats just plain junk. The vibrants hands down can detect multiple fingers I believe unlimited.
just over all better touch screen. Besides the MT the vibrants is just smoother, responds faster and just feels better.
Yes the N1 has it beat in a few areas as well. Build quality (although the vibrants isnt bad), but I never drop my phone anyways, and honestly the heavier n1 would probably suffer a bigger ding in the metal edges vs the lighter vibrants would.. Just my opinion
The n1 has notifications and I miss my trackball baaaaad
Also the n1s has a flash and the damn vibrant dont. boo. But it does have night view and the n1 even with flash cant replicate some of these types of photos.
The n1 will be updated to Gingerbread first yes, but honestly do you think it will still be in the light mid 2011? No way, not with way better hardware coming. Also the SGS will be on all carriers and have way more people with them. There will be tons of Development its just begun. I believe in the next few months it may surpase the N1s....
My opinion is they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but a better touch screen, better video recording, way more memory, and a better gpu outweights a light on the phone, trackball and updates which at that point the vibrant will get anyways by custom roms etc.
Just my opinion. I got both, the Vibrant is the better phone in my opinion. By a lot? Maybe not, but dont sell the SGS out like its not as good as the n1. Cause thats just retarded.

@smashpunks:
I see your point, and was with you until the retarded comment. That was just unnecessary... I could care less about the video camera, my multitouch works fine on my N1, is WAY faster to respond and react than the Vibrant (don't even understand how you could have felt the opposite), I don't game or watch movies on my phone, and have no issues with the internal memory. And so you say the N1 will be essentially obsolete mid 2011, I might be able to agree with that considering whats around the corner; however, the Galaxy S is not that far advanced over the N1 where it will be around longer than it, in my opinion. So, for me, the galaxy s ONLY had the nicer screen in direct sunlight going for it.
So given what I use my phone for and how I use it, the N1 is still far superior to the Vibrant,or for that matter, the Droid X, 2, and Incredible, and I would have been retarded to keep the Vibrant.

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@smashpunks:
I see your point, and was with you until the retarded comment. That was just unnecessary... I could care less about the video camera, my multitouch works fine on my N1, is WAY faster to respond and react than the Vibrant (don't even understand how you could have felt the opposite), I don't game or watch movies on my phone, and have no issues with the internal memory. And so you say the N1 will be essentially obsolete mid 2011, I might be able to agree with that considering whats around the corner; however, the Galaxy S is not that far advanced over the N1 where it will be around longer than it, in my opinion. So, for me, the galaxy s ONLY had the nicer screen in direct sunlight going for it.
So given what I use my phone for and how I use it, the N1 is still far superior to the Vibrant,or for that matter, the Droid X, 2, and Incredible, and I would have been retarded to keep the Vibrant.
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Confused person. By far superior you mean less specd right?
I got both. Niether is farrrrr superior lol

I know what I meant, and it is what I said. I had both, returned the Vibrant. I'm not here to bicker, and obviously I'm not the only one that likes the N1 better, isn't that the point of the thread?!

otis_bartleh said:
I know what I meant, and it is what I said. I had both, returned the Vibrant. I'm not here to bicker, and obviously I'm not the only one that likes the N1 better, isn't that the point of the thread?!
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We are in a n1 thread. Biased going on. Vibrant is better

smashpunks said:
well, I love these threads cause I got both.
The n1 is a great device and theres probably no need to upgrade/sidegrade to anything else.
BUT wow guys. Im not saying the vibrant/ sgs smokes the n1 cause it dont.
But give the phone credit when its due.
SIDEGRADE? wow, 16gb(2gb for apps) of rom vs 512mbs (195mb total after os takes rest).
the video camera kicks the n1s azs even with the 720p hack.
GPU smaaaaaaaaashes the n1s, eats it alive http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ I love my n1 but this makes me crinnnnge.. lol
Super amoled makes my n1s amoled look like crap, the blacks are greyish on the n1 compared to the vibrant.
Real MT screen, I love the n1 for browsing, but when the fuking thing cant even pinch to peak in the gallery properly without fanning out the wrong way then back the other and back again, and in simple games it cant register the right finger when the iphone 2g could, thats just plain junk. The vibrants hands down can detect multiple fingers I believe unlimited.
just over all better touch screen. Besides the MT the vibrants is just smoother, responds faster and just feels better.
Yes the N1 has it beat in a few areas as well. Build quality (although the vibrants isnt bad), but I never drop my phone anyways, and honestly the heavier n1 would probably suffer a bigger ding in the metal edges vs the lighter vibrants would.. Just my opinion
The n1 has notifications and I miss my trackball baaaaad
Also the n1s has a flash and the damn vibrant dont. boo. But it does have night view and the n1 even with flash cant replicate some of these types of photos.
The n1 will be updated to Gingerbread first yes, but honestly do you think it will still be in the light mid 2011? No way, not with way better hardware coming. Also the SGS will be on all carriers and have way more people with them. There will be tons of Development its just begun. I believe in the next few months it may surpase the N1s....
My opinion is they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but a better touch screen, better video recording, way more memory, and a better gpu outweights a light on the phone, trackball and updates which at that point the vibrant will get anyways by custom roms etc.
Just my opinion. I got both, the Vibrant is the better phone in my opinion. By a lot? Maybe not, but dont sell the SGS out like its not as good as the n1. Cause thats just retarded.
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Use barcode scanner on my avatar and do that, ass.

I guess it depends on how each person defines an upgrade.

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We are in a n1 thread. Biased going on. Vibrant is better
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Man, you sound like a little kid nah nah on the playground. The point is preference. You don't seem to get that through your thick skull. You wasting your time trying to sell people on that plastic piece of ****. Especially here. This N1 straight up and down. And the only retarded person is the one who spends his money on a side grade rather than an upgrade.

I see ur points and agree with you.
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Just as I suspected. I was slightly tempted to get a Galaxy S, but I was very leery because of this. Yeah it's got a bigger screen and nicer GPU, but it's not quite the radical upgrade you'd get if you went from a humdrum office PC to an i7 gaming rig with the latest-and-greatest card from ATI--and at this point, to get me to upgrade from N1, the difference will have to be pretty radical. Bring on the dual-core phones!

kamasi36 said:
Man, you sound like a little kid nah nah on the playground. The point is preference. You don't seem to get that through your thick skull. You wasting your time trying to sell people on that plastic piece of ****. Especially here. This N1 straight up and down. And the only retarded person is the one who spends his money on a side grade rather than an upgrade.
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You just said preference, now im retarded for getting a phone that I prefere. Isnt that kinda like a oxymoron statement and kinda a little hypocrytical.. lol
That post shows your anger. Poor little n1 getting smashed to pieces by the SGS. lmaoooo @ 12 fps on neno mark 1 vs 44fps on the SGS.. lmaooo
1400 quadrant score on n1 vs 2300 on sgs without froyo.
28 fps in neocore on n1 vs 55 fps on sgs
Linpack is only thing n1 wins in and will see if thats the case soon.
Give it up. There are a few phones that are better than the n1 now. DROIDX, DROID2, SGS and soon the dual cores.
Remember the Hummingbird can safely over clock to 1.6ghz I cant wait for that.
THE n1 is cool and im not tying to convince anyone, I just want you to know that there are other phones equal to the n1 (evo, incredible etc) and a few that surpass it. I couldnt stand the
-Crappy MT screen/sgs is better
-Buggy MT screen/ sgs dont bug out (why have a buggy screen when thats what you use most on the phone same with MT?) You got a touch screen phone that cant distinguish 2 fingers. lol
-Crappy video recording/sgs is way better
-Crappy gaming quality (asphalt 5 looks like crap vs the sgs)/ sgs is better
-Cant play even simple MT like PONG
-regular amoled when theres super/super amoled makes the regular look like poop.
-LOW ROM, even with apps2sd the data in your app spaced filled up(sgs has so much I dont ever have to worry). SGS Wins there also
-Crappy WIFI issue
-METAL ON THE BACK WOULD get way hott. Plastic doesnt conduct as much heat.
-JUST a tad small, 4.3 is too big, 4.0 hit the spot.
-Shatty 3g issue. 1.covering the back loses signal (happens in a lot of phones so its not a biggie) 2. Just wont stay on 3g when not in a strong signal area. My SGS will stay on 3g by itself instead of having to force hack 3g. lol
-only sold online.. pfffft.
I just dont see how you couldnt thing the SGS is a upgrade. Its got the better, CPU, GPU, MEMORY, VIDEO CAMERA, CAMERA, SCREEN, MT SENSORS, 6 axis accelerometer and JUST all around a MORE comfortable experience. N1 wins in what? Development? and Notifications? Wow. yea the n1 is better.... lol Stop lying to yourselves.
Now you may prefere the n1, thats fine, but as it being better? no, better for you? maybe, but the SGS definetely has the 1 up on just about every spec...
N1 rocks man dont get me wrong, but its just not the phone that the SGS is and is capable of. We have only scratched the surface of what this phone can do especially with a OC kernal that will handle 1.6 overclocked.
Edit: here's a video I just saw. Now basically the sgs performs slightly faster, opening apps and browsing. This is without froyo yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=i6T5I9hmVIU
Also notice the ****ty pinch and zoom on the n1 vs sgs and look at the choppier scrolling vs the smoother sgs. Remember this is without froyo/jit a serious performance upgrade....
N1 is cool, bit the sgs beats it. Even the blacks on the n1 are ugly... sgs ftw.

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r u TRULY happy with captivate?

im about to take the leap to upgrade to the captivate from my tilt 2 running froyo... ive been debating between really the captivate and iphone 4. i was looking at the dell streak and waiting for the thunder but i think ive decided. please post your great experience with the phone and what you would recommend!
i'm happy, i wish it was an htc device as they have always been very solid and i love the sense ui, but with launcher pro and some tweaks this is great! i def reccomend over an iphone 4! the customization is just crazy! i can customize this more than my old blackberry, and i thought that was really good.
I say make the switch, I came from a tilt 2 as well running froyo and haven't looked back. People complain about lag on the captivate but I feel like they have never used a touch pro or touch pro 2. My biggest concern was the lack of a physical keyboard due to having trouble typing on friend's iPhones but the screen is big enough that I prefer having a slimmer phone instead of a keyboard.
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I say make the switch, I came from a tilt 2 as well running froyo and haven't looked back. People complain about lag on the captivate but I feel like they have never used a touch pro or touch pro 2. My biggest concern was the lack of a physical keyboard due to having trouble typing on friend's iPhones but the screen is big enough that I prefer having a slimmer phone instead of a keyboard.
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thanks for ur response! were u able to keep ur unlimited data plan or did u have to switch? i was reading that when texting, the keyboard takes a lot of room on the screen? hard to believe since the screen is big as it is.... and true bout coming from a touch pro/touch pro 2 bout lag... im sure its super quick! my touch pro 2 lags all the time and cant wait to see how a true smartphone should run!
toawkanavngthded said:
thanks for ur response! were u able to keep ur unlimited data plan or did u have to switch? i was reading that when texting, the keyboard takes a lot of room on the screen? hard to believe since the screen is big as it is.... and true bout coming from a touch pro/touch pro 2 bout lag... im sure its super quick! my touch pro 2 lags all the time and cant wait to see how a true smartphone should run!
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We get grandfathered into the unlimited plan. The keyboard does take up about half the screen when typing but I see that as a positive cause I have big hands.
Plus it's nice to finally have a phone with a 3.5mm headphone Jack. Also the app market is awesome and there are a ton of great games if you are into that.
Now we just gotta wait patiently til froyo gets officially released but to be honest I am happy with 2.1 so far, not that I don't want 2.2.
I love my captivate. I haven't experienced any of this so called lag. Watching youtube videos of droid x and others make me cringe by how laggy their devices look compared to my butter smooth captivate. I also really like the stock tw launcher better than launcher l pro. I don't get where all the hate is coming from. Its nearly identicle and works perfect.
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yea i rarely had that lag people talked about.. lol but being the bored guy i am.. i still lagfixed
i came from a blackberry as well (bold9k) it was great.. but i'm very happy with my captivate. I just hope we get more ROMs
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Waste of a post.
My wife and I are happy with our Captivates. I had a Storm and she was using a Tour 9630. I have never been a physical keyboard person so I have loved the screen and using swype. My wife is making the transition pretty well. She still wants to hunt and peck using swype but she loves what can be done on the phone. We both have lag (wakeup lag) which is what most people experience. But I just haven't but the lagfix bag on my phone. There are issues, but there are issues with every phone. Just read up in the forums with what people are experiencing and the potential fixes.
If you are worried about gps then I would wait to see if samsung actually fixes it , other wise its an very good phone , better then any other offering out for att
I love it. My boss has an iphone 4 and will be giving it to his son and buying a captivate. The only real difference IMO, is the captivates lack of a front facing camera.
Yes, GPS is kinda wonky, but I'm sure(as well as everyone else) that the Froyo update will fix it.
As far as your data plan is concerned..If you have unlimited data now, and you don't change it from unlimited, then you'll be grandfathered in and want lose it.
Hope you get one..Best phone thats been out in a while.
Captivates quicker then a TP2 as well..lol I had the T-Mobile version and would never use the AT&T version due to the lack of the top row of numbers not being there..lol
Good luck with your purchase.
The best phone out right now
I came from a iPhone 3G and it's super slow compared to the Captivate, I think the iPhone 4 is kinda slow IMO.
I do miss how easy it is to get content onto your phone through itunes, but it's a trade off. With my iPhone everything was in one place waiting for me, but I had to wait to get to my rig to put anything on it. With my Captivate I have the option to wait or download right to my phone from the internet. Also you always have album art on the iPhone, on the Captivate you have to work a little harder and still end up with a blurry mess.
No lag here, traded my first day Captivate for a post launch and it runs fine, GPS and all.
I am not really happy because of ATT **** all of their phones.. including ATT, deleting the fonts that are available on vibrant, not giving good software, instead att gave crap software... and now i am having problem with plug and play with the usb to browse my phone on a pc... my friend that has vibrant just plug and play, no worries... I HATE ATT, if you can, just go to another provider.. the galaxy phone itself is great, but att is ****ed up...
sayurann said:
I am not really happy because of ATT **** all of their phones.. including ATT, deleting the fonts that are available on vibrant, not giving good software, instead att gave crap software... and now i am having problem with plug and play with the usb to browse my phone on a pc... my friend that has vibrant just plug and play, no worries... I HATE ATT, if you can, just go to another provider.. the galaxy phone itself is great, but att is ****ed up...
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You forgot to mention they disabled the hsupa on the phone, so to give the iphone an extra feature
Besides GPS, lack of Froyo, and lack of Flash, I love it Just wish it was a little more custom ROM friendly
Well I've definitely run into some lag but I think I've just put too much stuff on there already. Certain widgets were pretty bad for performance, especially the compass widget. But coming from a Tilt2 i'm VERY happy with the Captivate.
AT&T sucks what they try to push on us but that's why we're in this forum, so we can do what we want. As far as HSUPA I've read this might actually be to prevent some problems the Galaxy S line has with HSUPA enabled. But even so I'm sure the death star was more than happy to give their precious iPhone an edge.
so what is the big problem with gps?? does it lag? doesn't find ur location? when i use google maps on my tilt 2, sometimes it cant find my location, directions are wack, it lags... the only thing that really kills me is the flash on the cam....
toawkanavngthded said:
so what is the big problem with gps?? does it lag? doesn't find ur location? when i use google maps on my tilt 2, sometimes it cant find my location, directions are wack, it lags... the only thing that really kills me is the flash on the cam....
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GPS takes a very long time to lock if it locks at all. Thats the major problem all the other problems with the captivate can be mostly fixed thru rooting and applying fixes.
i LOVE the captivate, but i have yet to use it as my primary phone for more than a few hours at a time. The GPS is worthless (i do alot of biking and like to log my trips) and the HSUPA issue it just aggravating. My iPhone uploads at 10x faster than this phone does (and my old nexus one for that reason) but i pay the same amount for data on all three phones. Totally ludicrous. Until those few features are rectified by the Geniuses over at Samsung, or the very great and helpful people here, i will continue to leave it sitting around the house as a toy, and not as a phone. I guess i just dont have the confidence in Samsung in firmware updates like i would HTC, Motorola, even Apple!
just a rant. Other than that, this phone is amazing. If i did it again i would hold off until those are fixed.
robstunner said:
i LOVE the captivate, but i have yet to use it as my primary phone for more than a few hours at a time. The GPS is worthless (i do alot of biking and like to log my trips) and the HSUPA issue it just aggravating. My iPhone uploads at 10x faster than this phone does (and my old nexus one for that reason) but i pay the same amount for data on all three phones. Totally ludicrous. Until those few features are rectified by the Geniuses over at Samsung, or the very great and helpful people here, i will continue to leave it sitting around the house as a toy, and not as a phone. I guess i just dont have the confidence in Samsung in firmware updates like i would HTC, Motorola, even Apple!
just a rant. Other than that, this phone is amazing. If i did it again i would hold off until those are fixed.
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Samsungs backing phone has been sketchy at best, I think att is to blame with the hsupa issue.

[Q] EVO vs Epic?

So I've seen a few of these threads, but neither were really much help. I'm either already eligible or will soon be eligible for an upgrade, and I'm really thinking about getting either the Epic or the Evo. The Evo is a big contender, just because it's made by HTC and the camera is better, from what I've seen (haven't really seen video/pics from the Epic yet. Basically, the only thing I'm really hoping for is better battery life than I'm currently getting with my Hero (probably won't see the need to overclock whichever phone I get, I'll underclock it a bit if anything, I'm happy with the speed of my Hero at 629mhz).
So basically, it comes down to:
Price: which is cheaper, where can I get the best deal? 2 year extension, and my price *should* be the same as the new customer pricing.
Battery Life: will it be better than the 6 hours or so I get with my Hero?
CM6 availability: I'll probably stick with this ROM, I love it so much on my Hero.
camera: is the Epic's camera better than my Hero's? Also, this isn't completely about MP, since it's the actual quality of the sensor that makes the difference. Do either/both have an LED flash?
form factor: I have no problem with a device being completely touch-based, but from what I've seen/experienced with the Epic, I really like the keyboard.
known issues: what issues are known for each device? I know of GPS with the Epic, but are there any issues to keep an eye out for on the Evo?
HTC vs Samsung: I got the Hero over the Moment simply because despite the Moment's better specs, the Hero just "felt" better. How does the slider on the Epic feel? Sturdy? This isnt something I've really seen in reviews. Overall build quality of the phone? Any crazy Hero-esque dust issues with either phone? I also have seen some chipping/peeling of paint on my phone, any wear issues with either phone?
futureproofing: what's the life span of each phone look like? I know the Evo is probably coming up on EOL, and I've heard rumors of an Evo 2 for a while.
Hopefully we can keep this fairly unbiased, but I'm sure I'll get some people saying that one is better just because of whatever, but I'm hoping that I'll get some flat out opinions from both sides of the fence.
Really Me would be EVO. I can't bring myself to trust samsung anymore..
Who cares bout the life span anymore. I mean hell new phones come out everyday.etc.
I mean If you got the EVO right now. will It be underpowered this time next year? Doubt it.
I have an Evo, but I'll keep this as unbiased as I can. I know hardly anything about the Epic.
1.The Evo is $50 cheaper than the Epic with a two year contract.
2. Runing CM6, I get about eighteen hours of total on time, and six and a half with the screen on (texting, web browsing, all that). I'm a pretty heavy user. However, the Evo is infamous for its bad battery life in reviews and such. I never had any problems, and most of the battery issues had to do with the phone not sleeping or account syncs eating up the battery. I don't make any compromises (like keeping 3G off or turning my syncs off) to get the numbers I listed. I don't know anything about the Epic's battery.
3. CM6 RC1 is available for the Evo. The dev support is really strong. Epic doesn't have much dev support from what I've heard.
4. The Evo's camera isn't very good. It shoots 720p video, but with the stock Sense ROM (and custom Sense ROMs) it's only good quality with plenty of light. The general consensus is that the code written for the camera isn't very good.
5. This is completely opinion. I know there are times when a physical keyboard would be nice, but I have no problems with an onscreen keyboard and Swype.
6. The Evo had screen separation issues and light leak issues, but they weren't widespread and Sprint will fix you up if you run into one of those things. I didn't.
7. This is the same reason I chose the Evo over the Epic. It just felt better, for whatever reason. The build quality is very good on the Evo. My only problem with the phone's design is that the battery cover is pretty thin. It gives slightly when you put pressure on it.The screen and the rest of the phone is solid. I've heard some people complain about dust under the screen. I've had my Evo since August and haven't had that issue.
8. Not sure. I know that there have been rumours about some dual-core phones hitting the market in Q1/Q2 2011, but I can't see myself needing anything other than my Evo until then.
I hope that helps. I don't know a whole lot about the Epic. I know that the screen is fantastic, but the dev support isn't that great and to me, the Evo just feels better. I'm not an HTC fanboy or anything - if somebody took my Evo and gave me an Epic, I'm sure I wouldn't be too upset.
I agree, it'd be an evo for me, not a huge samsung/physical keyboard fan myself
The Epic has a gorgeous screen Super AMOLED, a 1GHZ Hummingbird processor and a surprisingly thin form-factor for a slider. The hummingbird is a very fast processor--anecdotally it runs way better than the snapdragon. Despite all these goodies, it is a Samsung and I'm done with them. My Samsung Moment was a big disappointment of glitches and radio/data lock-ups, rebooting, freezes, etc.
The Evo would be my preferred device, but I'm waiting until March next year (at the latest) to see what comes up.
No matter what, I'm staying with sprint.
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The Epic has a gorgeous screen Super AMOLED, a 1GHZ Hummingbird processor and a surprisingly thin form-factor for a slider. The hummingbird is a very fast processor--anecdotally it runs way better than the snapdragon. Despite all these goodies, it is a Samsung and I'm done with them. My Samsung Moment was a big disappointment of glitches and radio/data lock-ups, rebooting, freezes, etc.
The Evo would be my preferred device, but I'm waiting until March next year (at the latest) to see what comes up.
No matter what, I'm staying with sprint.
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That's my dilemma too. I have noticed that the Epic seems to be smoother/faster than the Evo, and it feels okay, but I heard a bunch of horror stories about the Moment, and Samsung in general to some extent.
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That's my dilemma too. I have noticed that the Epic seems to be smoother/faster than the Evo, and it feels okay, but I heard a bunch of horror stories about the Moment, and Samsung in general to some extent.
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Honestly this is a decision you have to make on your own. What you want. If I had an upgrade right now I would pass due to lack of phones I want (mytouch4g for sprint). If I had to choose though right now between evo and samsung epic, hands down evo. Samsung support sucks of all the devices they made read up on the behold 2. They got it bad. This is pretty much a continuing thing with samsung. If you like cyanogen it's already got support on the evo. The evo is kinda big though like a tablet (damn I'm thinking about android tablets again). Basically only reason I would choose evo is it's support base. I don't get lured in by prettyness (is that a word?). Real support can make or break a phone in my opinion. Story time ...
once upon a time I was with at&t bought an unlocked windows mobile phone from overpriced.com. AT&T wouldn't give me the mms settings (even though the phone was sold at at&t stores) and couldn't find them online. I tried and tried and eventually figured out at&t wasn't for me. They made my phone useless. Not much of a story.
Also samsung doesn't officially have drivers for windows 64. Try and find them. I've got them now due to looking all over the place don't believe me? Go through that mess samsung calls a website.
Sorry I really don't like samsung. I have really good reasons though
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The Epic has a gorgeous screen Super AMOLED, a 1GHZ Hummingbird processor and a surprisingly thin form-factor for a slider. The hummingbird is a very fast processor--anecdotally it runs way better than the snapdragon. Despite all these goodies, it is a Samsung and I'm done with them. My Samsung Moment was a big disappointment of glitches and radio/data lock-ups, rebooting, freezes, etc.
The Evo would be my preferred device, but I'm waiting until March next year (at the latest) to see what comes up.
No matter what, I'm staying with sprint.
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Yup, same with me, I want dual core!!!
to comment on your worry about the phone being underpowered in a year, think of it like this... Unless someone comes up with a new battery that literally revolutionizes the way we power portable electronics, you are going to suffer greatly from anything much faster than a 1ghz, and id even argue that that is too overpowered for what the battery can handle. sure a 1.5 ghz dual core processor sounds all well and good on paper, but its gonna get to the point that your "cell phone" is a land line that can come off the charger for a short period of time if you need it to. Also, keep in mind (as already posted), a new phone literally pops up every other week. No matter how long you wait for the next great phone, there will always be the speculation of yet another phone.
The question also leads me to ask people what in the world are they doing on their phone that they need a 1.5 ghz processor!? i have a hero overclocked slightly running cm6.1 stable, and its plently fast. there has NEVER been a time with my hero that I have been in a position that if i could access something 2 seconds quicker that it would have had even the slightest impact on my task at hand.
Personally, I would go with the Evo, simply bc the development seems to be significantly better for it. from samsungs past, you arent going to get many updates in any type of timely fashion, so if you want the newest OS, thats gonna mean looking to the dev's, and at the current time, its nowhere near on par with that of the Evo
I know i didnt really answer too many of your specific questions, but i think they are still good points to keep in mind
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to comment on your worry about the phone being underpowered in a year, think of it like this... Unless someone comes up with a new battery that literally revolutionizes the way we power portable electronics, you are going to suffer greatly from anything much faster than a 1ghz, and id even argue that that is too overpowered for what the battery can handle. sure a 1.5 ghz dual core processor sounds all well and good on paper, but its gonna get to the point that your "cell phone" is a land line that can come off the charger for a short period of time if you need it to. Also, keep in mind (as already posted), a new phone literally pops up every other week. No matter how long you wait for the next great phone, there will always be the speculation of yet another phone.
The question also leads me to ask people what in the world are they doing on their phone that they need a 1.5 ghz processor!? i have a hero overclocked slightly running cm6.1 stable, and its plently fast. there has NEVER been a time with my hero that I have been in a position that if i could access something 2 seconds quicker that it would have had even the slightest impact on my task at hand.
Personally, I would go with the Evo, simply bc the development seems to be significantly better for it. from samsungs past, you arent going to get many updates in any type of timely fashion, so if you want the newest OS, thats gonna mean looking to the dev's, and at the current time, its nowhere near on par with that of the Evo
I know i didnt really answer too many of your specific questions, but i think they are still good points to keep in mind
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Forget battery life if I have a 1.5 GHz dual core phone
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i have a hero overclocked slightly running cm6.1 stable...
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When did that (CM 6.1 stable) come out?
something like three weeks ago? 10/28
Opinion...
first of all....i would probably get an Evo before epic, but what i noticed in the thread was...well a lot of people are trying to compare the moment and epic(i had moment and i'm done with samsung)i just dont think its right....
i mean...it is the same thing to compare hero and evo...
there's just no comparison....
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something like three weeks ago? 10/28
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Technically, it's RC... isn't it? I mean, it is stable enough for everyday use... but still.
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Technically, it's RC... isn't it? I mean, it is stable enough for everyday use... but still.
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Correct.
Also, Epic still doesn't have a date for 2.2, ouch.
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Technically, it's RC... isn't it? I mean, it is stable enough for everyday use... but still.
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Yeh, if you are being technical. But typically that's what's referred to as the "stable" build.
get whatever makes u happy.lol
If I was still with sprint I would pass on both. since i dont want to pay 10 bucks extra a month.. Sprint needs something like the incredible.. but without 4g.. but its either pay extra for the evo or epic or the hero. cause honestly wouldnt mess with those budget androids on sprint..
Just remember most if not all HTC androids will have better support than samsung or lg etc.. not to mention You will find way more cases and battery options with HTC too.
i was in the exact same boat as op. i went and played with both for about an hour. the choice was clearly Evo
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I'm with you. Just hope I don't have to wait too much past Jan/Feb for it. I'm eligible for an upgrade 12/1, but I know there's some great new hardware coming soon!
get an evo my friend. the epic is only for people who need a keyboard. the screen on the epic is awesome but i think the evo has more development and roms. best phone ive purchased soo far is my evo.

"Upgrade" to a Nexus S and sell my N1?

Hopefully someone here can better explain the differences, pros, and cons of each.
I've been doing some quick research and looking around, even played with the Nexus S at Best Buy, and it seems the main (and ONLY) difference is that the NS has a bigger screen than the N1.
It's my understanding that they both share the same processor, both have the same amount of RAM, both have the same camera, etc.
The only "advantage" to the Nexus S would be the bigger screen and more on-board memory for apps and such, correct?
I can get the Nexus S for $200 through Best Buy and could in turn sell my N1 with it's dock for $400 (already have a buyer lined up). My biggest question, however, is what does the N1 do that the NS does NOT do? Would this be a logical thing to do or is there something that the NS would be lacking by comparison?
Well the NS does not have an SD slot so your stuck with the 16GB of storage.
The NS does have a FFC.
The CPUs are both 1GHz but the NS' is of a newer architecture and is a bit faster especially with games.
The NS touchscreen is better.
I only have an 8GB SD card in my N1 and it's been more than enough, so the "limited" 16GB that the NS has shouldn't be a problem for me.
I'm not sure what "FFC" is...can you define/explain?
Faster or even equal speeds in the processor is fine. I just knew it was close and wasn't inferior to the N1 like a lot of other phones that have come out recently.
And what exactly makes the touchscreen better on the NS? Better resolution or just better responsiveness?
EDIT: I think I just figured out "FFC" means "front facing camera", correct? Not something I'd use, but doesn't hurt either.
It seems that there really isn't a reason NOT to do this exchange. Everything that the N1 can do the NS does and then some. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything that I'd be missing out on if I got rid of my N1 after having gotten used to it for so long. Seems like it would be an easy and smooth transition.
How easy is it to obtain all Google Market apps that have already been purchased when switching devices like this? They're all tied to the account, correct?
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How easy is it to obtain all Google Market apps that have already been purchased when switching devices like this? They're all tied to the account, correct?
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Pretty much, yes. You can get some exceptions - eg CoPilot Live is fiddly to transfer, but the Android licence is valid cross-device (you need to deactivate the old device first). In general, if you've purchased from the market and use the same account on the new phone your apps should be available without issue.
I've transferred from G1, to Magic, to N1 without losing any apps to date (although I've sworn a bit at CoPilot )
Keep in mind the Nexus S doesn't have a notification led.
Apart from the glossy plastic i think the Nexus S is a good device. If it doesn't have the screen inaccuracy or power button failure issues of the N1 it could be a worthwhile upgrade.
Depends how affluent you are feeling right now
I asked myself the same question and I came up with these answers.
N1 is better built
upgradeable sd slot
has a notification led
has less a tendency of sliding out of your hand
same specs
and samsung is notorious about never releasing any updates for any of their phones.
Don't forget the nexus s does not have 2 Mic's. There have been some reports of bad call quality on it in noisy environments with background noise.
Having owned them both...
NS has the NFC (near field communication), which one day may be nice.
The 16gb limit does not really present a problem.
The screen is bigger and is supposedly better, but I didn't see anything that really made the new screen stand out, it is nice. It is curved slightly, which is kinda nice.
NS does not have the same build quality, and does not have the unibody, metal design. The Nexus S does feel cheap next to the N1, but it is not showstopper. N1 has a much cleaner design and looks much 'sexier' IMHO.
NS does not have the trackball, much less the lighted trackball of the N1. NS does not even have a charge indicator.
NS does not come with a case or dedicated charger (has the brick and a data cable)
NS with gingerbread is fast, but does not yet have the dev support of the N1.
I felt the cameras were about similar.
NS does not have the second mic (as someone else pointed out). Not sure about call quality of the listener on the other end. I had problems with reboots, but Google knows there is a problem and is working on it.
Why o Why did they change the order of the home/search/menu/back keys in the NS -what a pain.
NS no SD slot.
NS does not have the dock pins on the bottom to use with a car/desktop dock.
NS has a front camera and more RAM
I would wait until Gingerbread comes out for the N1 before you jump ship. You have 30 days to send the phone back to best buy if you don't like it...
Just felt that the new NS was not 'Google' enough for me. Just missing too many little things. It is like they were trying to make a new Nexus that is *more* like the iphone. Kinda a sellout thing to do in my opinion.
My opinion is to keep your N1, the NS is not a real upgrade in my mind.
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another difference... Both have 512 of RAM. N1 has 512 of "ROM", while the NS has 16gb of storage, 1gb reserved for apps and OS.
Thanks for all the replies, guys! After reading some and doing quite a bit more research, including watching comparison videos on YouTube, I have decided to wait.
The only "new" feature that I'd use with the NS is the bigger screen, but I don't really feel that should stand alone as a reason to "upgrade".
The speed differences in the comparison videos were very, VERY minimal and it appears that the N1 has better graphics handling than the NS. It's possible that the minimal speed differences were simply due to the NS having Gingerbread, so hopefully I'll see an increase with the upcoming update for the N1 although if I don't, it's no big problem since it's still the fastest phone I've messed around with.
Another reason is the battery. I've gone as long as 36 hours on my N1 with a single charge and normal use and usually have 60-70% battery life left after a full 15 hour day of being in use. I hear the NS is barely lasting a day for most people which is more than likely in account for the larger screen.
The MAIN reason I've decided to wait, however, is simply because I don't want to be locked into a 2yr contract for the same phone with a bigger screen when the inevitable dual-processor and expanded function phone(s) come out. The N1 does absolutely everything I want/need out of a phone so I'll be waiting until something comes out and totally blows it away and makes it obsolete.
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..The N1 does absolutely everything I want/need out of a phone so I'll be waiting until something comes out and totally blows it away and makes it obsolete.
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Me too
Hopefully it'll be a new Nexus, made by HTC, with great specs!
I sold my nexus one last week and got a nexus s the same day. I loved my nexus one but my logic for selling my phone is deprecation of the phone when i sell it. Sold the nexus one and dock for 370, not great. So that means I payed $200 for the nexus s. If you are in the market to sell it later you will get less for it. In the next couple of months dual core and 4g is coming out and the value will drop for both phones but i feel that the nexus s will be valued higher. It also seem that the resell market for Galaxy S is bigger then the nexus one, due to the fact that more people know what a Galaxy s phone is.
Some thoughts about the nexus s. The phone seems the same on paper but in actuality its much faster compared the nexus one running gingerbread, this could be that the roms didn't have the drivers. The screen is amazing and i like the look of the nexus s, but miss the dock. NS is a lot lighter in the hand but feels cheap when you're pressing the volume and power buttons. The BIGGEST difference is the responsiveness of the touchscreen.
I have ZERO REGRETS on my purchase of the nexus s.
I have purchased the Nexus S and am still on the fence of whether or not to return it. My previous phone is the Nexus One. The reason that I am on the fence is for the same reason why some people are still trying to decide whether or not to purchase the phone such as there is no led notification, missing sd slot, NFC not really popular at the moment and probably will not be for the next year or two at least in the US, not a dual core phone.
But I will admit it is a nice phone, does have a nice feel, beautiful display, sexy all black face giving it that stealth look, the touchscreen is responsive I don't get all of that wonkiness I used to get with the Nexus one and even with the capacitive touch buttons, those work the way they should. Very responsive in terms of apps seem to respond and open more quickly compared to the N1. It would be nice for google to explain why they chose the phone they chose for there N1 successor, instead of trying to come up with reasons for them.
I have 30 days to decide whether or not to keep the phone. Since I am a T-mobile customer, from as long as I can remember they never really had the hot phones, it was always places like verizon or sprint that had phones that seemed more appealing. And even if t-mobile did end up getting a hot phone it would be like months later after the other networks had that phone for a while ex. razr.
If i had neither an n1 or nexus s and both phones were for sale, I would go for the Nexus S.

So I went to VZW to check it out (D2G owner)

Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.
I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.
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I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.
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Then I'm in denial and deny it! lol.. its not the best screen, but its not horrible! I think its quite ok.. the pixels don't bother me much, my battery life kicks butt compared to tbolt! Then again, im not one for watching movies on my phone I got a Sammy LED at home for that...
For those of us who:
-would rather watch a movie on something larger than a 4 inch screen.
-would rather fap to pr0n from a pc
-would rather play games on a pc, xbox 360 or ps3
-care about performance of the best 4g radio and so far the best processor/ram combo
OR have a connection for incredibly good deals on phones and don't really care...
Yeah, denial is the right term.
Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
The good news is that it's still just as fast as any other single core phone. If any app is coded to take advantage of dual core, it will shine in those but in average usage - you're not seeing any performance advantage here.
The pentile screen doesn't bother me. I can tell at times but still doesn't impact me. I would rather have better battery life than a non-pentile screen. I don't want the Thunderbolt battery issues.
After removing a bunch of bloatware, I kinda dig the new Blur. I was using CM7 with ADW Ex on top. It is running so butter smooth! I will probably go back to ADW Ex when a ROM comes out without Blur.
I got 30 days to try it out but I might exchange it for the HTC Vigor. Depends on what happens the next 30 days.
Diversion said:
Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
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While it's true it's barely worth mentioning. "YET" or "UNTIL" are key vocabulary for this CPU.
Coming from a droidx here... the screen looks a-ok to me on the bionic.
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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.
No doubt that the screen is disappointing, but LTE is absolutely insane, and the phone is noticeably faster than the Sensation running a Sense ROM. Overall, I'm very pleased with my first Motorola device, and it was a steal at $179 from Amazon.
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I think that people are being to anal about the screen. I use the phone in direct sunlight now and it looks incredible. The text looks super sharp and you dont have to put your hand on top of the screen to block sun light. this phone is amazing. and yes better phones will be out and when you get that awesome phone that will come out in a few months another better phone will be out after that. is a never ending cycle. I love the bionic and i dont regret buying it. When i want to watch porn I use my computer or my galaxy 10.1 tablet. If you really really need a porn fix the bionic could take care of it too.
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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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Sense didn't exist until after the 6800. I had cm7 on my DInc, it still sucked, battery wise anyway.
The hate for the screen is warranted, and not warranted. I don't know how to put that. I was adamantly against a PenTile screen and it was almost enough to put me off on this phone. I had seen it in store and focused on the screen, and it just annoyed me. Then I got some real time with it and it's seriously a bunch of nonsense. The screen is sharp, great colors, great in daylight. It's not AMOLED level there but it's a do-it-all screen.
The 4G is super fast, and the battery life is amazing. I came from a Droid X and it's an impressive phone. Suck it up on the screen and you'll forget about it in a day.
Vexorg said:
Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.
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Your comparing a Droid 2 Global to a Bionic .... Bionic>"D2G"
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The "VERY" part of your statement, stands out as if you know something the rest of "non" Verizon Wireless employee's would know... if you dont work for verizon wireless please share what these options are..if you do work for vzw i can understand if you dont because you dont want to get a lawsuit.
Thx for the detailed review while playing with a demo model in-store for how long?
*crack me up!
manolith2011 said:
I think that people are being to anal about the screen.
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If I'm spending $200 to $300 on an smartphone it better have a damn good screen. No offense but the Bionic does not have a good screen. Yeah at times it can look good but anything with green for instance suddenly brings out the crap factor. If it doesn't bother you then enjoy it. As for me I'll wait until either the HTC or Samsung offerings are out both of which will have a better screen over the Bionic.

[Q] Moving on...(GNexus vs One S)

So I'm finally getting around to moving on. As much as I love my Nexus One, I'm in need of a new phone and with the deals coming up I don't know what to get. Being a "even more plus customer" (or whatever they call it now) I don't get those nice phone discounts so everything is relatively expensive. I have to buy it at full price
Today I saw the Galaxy Nexus was on sale for $400 which is really tempting. I know how great a phone it is, but its a little on the big side for me (ha). Then I saw Tmo's $100 trade in value and thought about using that to get a One S for $500.
The things that keep me away from the One S are that there is no removable battery, the possibility of bugs on the first release, and a locked boot loader. But it's such a beautiful device with an amazing camera that it's hard to resist. Money isn't really a big deal, but its a factor I'm considering. I could do a bit more with that $100.
Anyone else that has moved on, what made you switch?
Any recommendations about which phone to get or input in general would be great!
TL;DR: Need new phone, Galaxy Nexus or One S?
(not sure if this is in the right section, hope it is..)
no removable battery is a stopper for me
did you handle the dummy or do you have a working one where you are. the dummy was alot longer than wide. kinda like the n1 but an inch longer, or so it looked and felt. i didn't like it.
why not wait a couple weeks and see about the ssg3
rugmankc said:
no removable battery is a stopper for me
did you handle the dummy or do you have a working one where you are. the dummy was alot longer than wide. kinda like the n1 but an inch longer, or so it looked and felt. i didn't like it.
why not wait a couple weeks and see about the ssg3
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I used a dummy, I liked how it felt, but you brought up a good point. I should probably try the real thing.
I was considering the S3 but I'm concerned it's gonna take longer than I'd like to get to the U.S. and be too expensive. The deals to me were the reason I wanted to buy a new phone. Are you considering the S3?
I just came from a nexus one and went with the gnex. I absolutely love it. Removable battery and it being a nexus are the winning factors to me. Being a nexus and able to type 6 or so lines of text to flash the stock image and root with files straight from google are big factors for me. The phone is smooth as hell. The other ones will be tainted with sense and Samsung garbage.it is quite wide but I'm getting used to it quickly, after two days I can just about use the phone fully with one hand.
i am looking at the ssg3 or galaxy note, but fed up with tmo slow speeds in my area, Dayton Oh, and still stuck on a 2 year contract. I get .5 to 2mb most of the time. My wishes are dl speed at +5mb minimum, good signal strength at my house and work, 4.5 inch screen or bigger. I will root for apps and nandroid but may not continue flashing as these new phones have it all now--for me at least--
I posted on another thread getting 10-13mb dl with gnex on verizon at store, i know in two years most carriers will be lte capable, so the speeds are coming
yeah, i noticed a little bit of a service bump with the hspda+ on att in some spots in my area getting about 6mb down 2mb up where it used to be 3mb max on the n1. im perfectly fine with that amount of bandwidth, i dont need my phone to have the same service level of throughput as my home internet and chew through my battery. i wish the carriers could improve on the response time / ping now, who cares about bandwidth, its all marketing hype. give me a 22ms ping with 3mb down, not 300ms ping with 15mb...
those speeds would be acceptable to me for now, as in two more years we may see perfection on smartphones for most of us. as i have time maybe someone in the dayton area will get the unlocked version and post tmobile speeds here--
If you're fond of plain Android or CM - get Galaxy Nexus.
If you're one of those who flash Sense/MIUI on your N1 for functionality, and prefer it over plain Android - get One S.
There was already such a thread that I participated in, you can find my opinion there. Personally I can't stand plain Android for the reasons I laid out many times, and dislike ICS design.
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If you're fond of plain Android or CM - get Galaxy Nexus.
If you're one of those who flash Sense/MIUI on your N1 for functionality, and prefer it over plain Android - get One S.
There was already such a thread that I participated in, you can find my opinion there. Personally I can't stand plain Android for the reasons I laid out many times, and dislike ICS design.
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Yeah, I found your thread. You bring up a good point about the development, but I feel either way I'll be okay. I do like my stock ICS, but I'm curious to see how the new sense is, maybe give it a chance. Although, I saw a development of Sense, Blur, and Touchwiz ports over in the Galaxy Nexus form. Made me think twice...
I tried to go to the t-mobile store and use a One S today, but they were closed by the time I got there D: Hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on one soon.
One S is better then GNex in most ways but development. Built quality is amazing, screen is very nice, camera and camera app are also super. but right now you just cant do much with the phone besides running Sense....there are no 100% functioning ROMs or any mods YET.
I say screen quality is better on One S in terms of colors, but Gnex is very sharp and resolution is 720p
I have One S and thinking about trading for Gnex because I just hate sitting on stock ROM and waiting....but I am not 100% sure yet
The is just one flaw in One S design, the cool notification light is very cool, but its not visible from the sides.
/nod.
Just handed back the OneS. Until there's some decent Roms, the existing Sense stuff is very annoying. The camera on it is VERY impressive, build quality great too. Screen, same brightness as Nexus One (ie, very clear), but not /that/ bump up in rez. When there's some decent roms for it, I'd jump in and enjoy it, but for now, there's a lot that'll annoy you.

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