I've been reading around and is anyone successful with the sequence of
--Charge Phone while on
--wait until fully charged.
--unplug charger
--turn off device
--charge until fully charged.
--unplug charger
--turn on device
--when phone is completely done rebooting turn off
--plug charger again until full
--turn on device and move on
and how does that relate with the reset battery stats on clockwork mod?
can anyone elaborate D:
I tried that method and i didn't see a difference in battery life. Didn't wipe battery stats through clockwork.
I did it the other day when I first saw the post and I seem to be getting better battery life. Could be a typical placebo effect, but my phone sat on 100% for a couple of hours after doing this (with negligible use during that time, except for my compulsive turning on the screen every few mins to see if the battery had dropped - using Fightspit's Super Circle Battery Mod).
The two slight changes I made from the posted steps:
1. My first step was to wipe the battery stats using ClockworkMod. No special knowledge here, and I have no idea if this was a good idea or a bad idea, but I figured the best way to calibrate the battery gauge would be to start the process with no history. I didn't want to add to the old history, I wanted to start fresh.
2. I did the "unplug the phone, turn it on, when it's completely on, turn it off, plug in the charger, charge with phone off until you get the 'full' message'" part an extra two times. Just because. The first "extra" time, it took a few minutes to get the "full" message. The second extra time, the full message was pretty much instant and I was satisfied. I do not recommend doing what I did, because I have no idea whether it could ruin your battery in the short- or long-term.
Also note that my phone had a 43% charge when I first started this process, I didn't drain it until it turned off like some other calibration processes recommend.
Since I did this, I have just been letting it charge regularly overnight (phone on, plugged in) and it feels like the battery numbers drop more slowly with the same usage pattern.
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Hi everyone, well when i charge my battery all the way to 100% its fine, i use the device as an mp3 player as well which in my case brings down the battery 10%, but most of the time my battery meter is not accurate, for example it will say 54 percent but when i restart the phone it will shoot up to 75 or something, it always does that, is there any hardware problems or anything?
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Hello MimoG3
This may or may not be related, but I remember after restoring from a backup a few months ago and removing the battery prior to this the device battery meter was very inaccurate. After the restore, the battery extremely low warning came up because it thought I had 0% battery. Long story short, after a while I noticed the battery was not seated properly. So I took out the battery, cleaned the contacts, and put it back in, and it worked fine again. Try cleaning all the battery contacts. Google "Clean battery contacts" or something similar if you do not know how to safely clean battery contacts.
Also, although I have not had this problem that your are describing, try posting your rom and rom version, radio, device information, battery s/n if possible, and other device info should it turn out there is a bad batch of batteries or devices.
-Dave
i have noticed when i restart the phone once in a while and when the battery is fully charged it will think its empty and shut off the phone, to fix that i take out the battery and it starts up again. also sometimes it freezes at startup until i take out the battery but that happens when i restart as well.
Leave your phone on playing music until it turns itself off because of low battery. Remove battery 10 seconds, put it back in and turn on again. Repeat until the battery is really empty and the phone turns off less than 5 mins after you turned it on. Plug charger, turn on, leave until fully charged. This should improve accuracy. Avoid removing the battery if not needed.
ive done something similar to that, i turned on the wifi, bluetooth and gps on so that it would drain the battery fast, then when it turned off i turned it on again with all those things off except the GSM Radio, then eventually it shut off once it stopped turning on i charged it all the way. it still didnt help
battery measuring is not really that much of an exact science
only way to tell the % is
when a batt being pulled current from the volts drop
the less juice left in the batt the more it drops
so the device measure the volts
and makes an educated guess how much juice is left
just after a reset the batt could very well perform a bit better
for a few mins voltWise
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when it turned off i turned it on again
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Did you remove the battery? The phone doesn't usually reset the meter if you leave it in.
@rudegar: No, most recent devices including HTC phones don't only use the battery voltage but count how much energy they use / charge to the battery. That usually allows more precise measurement, but can also sceww up if uncalibrated, and is really annoying as it doesn't want to use higher capacity batteries correctly.
My battery never charges above ~76% when plugged in. After rebooting however, it is very much at 100% and lasts for a good amount of time. This is not necessarily a question, but I wonder if others are experiencing this too and if there is a fix? Read below.
I noticed that my battery life got very bad after installing custom roms. I also found out that this happened because I sometimes kept the phone plugged in while flashing, something that totally screws up the battery reading. So, I followed this guide to calibrate my battery and it worked.
Now, whenever the phone is plugged in it NEVER goes to 100% when charging. Maybe 80% if leaving it for a while (10 hours overnight). I'm worried about frying the battery. Is there a fix?
It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
What I'm concerned about is if the phone "thinks" the battery isn't recharged and keeps squeezing juice into it when in fact it is full (which a reboot will show)? That's not good for the battery. It should go into trickle charge after reaching 100%..
The process described in the desire forum is also known as formatting the battery. In fact most of battery manufacturers (lithium battery manufacturers) recommend doing this in a slightly different way:
Before first use:
1.) Before powering the device on, plug it in and let it charge until the LED is green (fully charged)
2.) Then take the battery out of the device and wait an hour (to make sure all the chemical processes in the battery are as idle as possible)
3.) Then plug it back in, while still off and let it charge untill green LED
4.) use the device....
You can practice this slightly modified with first step being:
Discharge the battery (by normal use)until only few percent are left (1 - 5 % are OK)
I've done these steps with my Mugen extended battery and I was getting around 4 - 5 days on Legend, now I'm getting 2 - 3 days on Desire S, but the ROM isn't very optimized yet, I believe it will be better in time...
Just one thing... Why is this in Development!?
No Idea.....
can mods move this?
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It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
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sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
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sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
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Definitely did not solve it but at least the battery performance is ok. It just stays at 78% for a few hours drops from there. Very weird but as long as the battery doesn't get broken I guess it's ok.
Do you have some 3rd party battery installed in your Legend? I have one 1,5 Ah in mine and it is acting the same way. It doesn't bother me too much coz it was cheap... it lasts 48 hrs with data always on and moderate usage. I noticed this that when I charge it overnight and it reaches 80%, unplugging it stays at 80% for several hrs and just after it starts dropping if I plug it again, meter reaches 100%. It's weird but as I said I can live with that
I've got exactly the same issue with stock 2.2 ROM. I've never rooted or CM my phone; I was wondering if CM would do it, but doesn't look like it.
android forums /htc-legend/265545-battery-doesnt-fully-charge.html
(sorry, I can't post links; maybe an admin can fix the link for me?
This seems to indicate it's a phone hardware fault and requires a new Legend to fix! My big worry is, as stated, that the charging light never goes green; therefore is pumping lots of power into a potentially full battery.
Hey guys I just picked up the Thrill the other day, and like others I've realized the battery life is horrible on this phone not to mention when I reboot the phone would take a 10-15% out of the battery. Coming from an Atrix I decided to try the battery fix for the Atrix since it worked for me in the past, well after following all the steps in the guide it seems my phone reports the battery more accurate and battery life is better but your mileage will vary. Reboot doesn't take 10-15% out of the batter percentage either so here is the guide and link to the original thread, all credits go to xploited.
PS.. I followed all the steps except for flashing the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix since it is for gingerbread roms
Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Guide:
Standart disclaimer: I am not responsible if you break things by following this guide, though I will be genuinely surprised if you do.
Credits: This fix is a combination of battery management techniques discussed in the Atrix forums + a technique that I originally found in a Milestone forum (I didn't invent it, but I am too lazy to search who originally posted it ).
This worked in fixing the problem for me (the same problem that I see many others are writing about on the forums), but I can't guarantee it will work for you.
Who should use this? (aka your battery problem symptoms are
1. Battery life on 2.3.4 is significantly worse for you than before.
2. Battery stats are jumping and showing inconsistent information.
3. Your phone loses 30%-60% just by sitting there overnight.
4. Phone idle draining 30%-60% of battery just by sitting there overnight.
5. After flashing a couple of roms, your battery stats got messed up and the phone thinks it's at 100% charge while it's not.
I personally started having battery problems after flashing a couple of roms, applying 1% battery mod and despite flashing jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix.
When I went to bed with a 100% charge, I would wake up to a 50% charge, with Phone Idle process showing up as massacring the battery. The steps below successfully fixed the problem for me.
Prerequisites:
1. Atrix on one of the rooted 2.3.4 roms (ideally,- deodexed and with unlocked CWM)
2. Wall Charger
3. jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (put it on your SD card you will need it later!) I have also attached it to this post.
4. Battery Calibration app from the market
5. Watchdog Lite or Full from the market
Instructions:
It's best to complete this procedure in the evening before going to bed, so you can leave it at 100% overnight and check in the morning if the drainage issue is fixed!!!
The whole procedure along with recalibration might take up to 5-6 hours!
1. Take the case off your Atrix (one of the latter steps involves taking the battery out from the phone while it's plugged in. Make sure your case won't stand in the way.)
2. Install Battery Calibration app from the market
3. Plug in your Atrix to charge while it's on, wait till it gets to a 100%
4. When the charge is 100%, open the BatteryCalibration app and lookup what the charge is in MV while at 100%. (Explanatory pic, needed number circled in red). Write it down.
My Atrix was showing ~3400MV while at 100%, which is definitely not the maximum capacity.
5. Discharge your Atrix completely until it shuts off.
A good way of doing this quickly is by turning on wifi, and a video player.
6. Without turning on the phone plug it into a wall charger and let it get to 100%
7. When it's at 100%, without unplugging it from the wall charger, take off the battery cover, and take the battery out.
Your phone will "reboot" and show a Missing Battery icon.
8. Without unplugging the phone from the wall charger or turning it on, put the battery back in and wait until the phone recognizes the battery.
9. Your battery should now be recognized by the phone, and showing a charge % significantly lower than 100%.
Mine showed only 5%. Back when I used a Milestone, it usually showed 60% after doing this.
10. Let it sit there charging for 2-3 hours.
My phone wouldn't charge past 10%, but yours might. The numbers don't matter much as the phone is definitely getting additional charge that could have been lost while flashing ROMs, etc.
11. After 2-3 hours, turn the phone on while holding the volume down button and get into CWM.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
12. Install jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (even if you had it installed before), do not reboot yet.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
13. Wipe battery stats in CWM, reboot.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
14. When the phone turns on, go into BatteryCalibration app again and look up your MV numbers
- if you were like me, they should be significantly higher than before. After this whole process I had 4200MV at 100%, comparing to 3400MV before calibration.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
15. Before going to sleep - Install Watchdog from the market. Go into it's preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20%, check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20% as well.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
16. Make sure your wifi and data connections are off. Now finally unplug the phone from the charger.
Go to bed, let your phone sleep too.
17. Success! Next morning check where your battery % is at and if you followed the instructions correctly / got lucky like me, your battery life should be 90% or more.
I went to bed with 98% and woke up to 94%. So, I consider this mission a success.
(Your general battery capacity should have increased, even if something still was draining the battery, you will be able to find the infringing process in WatchDog with the settings we've set up in step 15 )
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Not a bad process. I did something similar. Main part is Watchdog and finding out what's draining your battery. On my phone the infringing process is "Suspend". Now, if there were an app that was keeping my phone from suspending and running up the process it would be an easy fix but unfortunately the process with the highest "partial wake" battling my "Suspend" is the "dialer" so unfortunate I'm just gonna have to wait for GB since I have no interest in Rooting or installing roms at this point.
I'll give this a go. Thank you
When I'm killing my phone,
It says:
3% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
Lulwut?
Sent from my LG Thrill 4G
The Dark Lestat said:
When I'm killing my phone,
It says:
3% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
1% Battery Remaining
2% Battery Remaining
Lulwut?
Sent from my LG Thrill 4G
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lol seems like your phone doesn't want to die
nexendz said:
lol seems like your phone doesn't want to die
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It did that for an hour then FINALLY reached 0% haha
Hello guys,
I've messed around with OC etc. and I had to take out battery couple of times. After that some of my apps had reseted settings (probably sqlite db corruptions - it happens). Strange thing: after that my battery lasted for 2 days. Before that I was lucky if I got one day on one charge.
Latetly everything went back to normal and no more 2 days without charing.
I didnt installed anything new etc. Maybe market installed some updates - thats all.
Conclusion: something is f*cked up with our phone .;-)
I think it has to do with lg's battery drivers not working well. If you pull the battery (while the phone is running), on next boot the battery level is usually lower. I think that this causes the levels of the battery to be determined again. Normal shutdown looks like it's saving the battery level somewhere instead of determining each boot.
I've noticed one time after a nandroid restore the battery level was the same as when I did the backup. In this instance, I flashed a new rom to try for a couple of hours, then did a nandroid restore. If I remember correctly, it was about 55% when I did the backup, and about 25% just before the restore, afterwards it was back to 55%.
A while again I tried using this method (battery pull) to calibrate the battery. Using the pre #40 cm nightlies, you could boot without the battery in, using the usb charge. The method I used was to charge 100%, shutdown, remove battery, plug in to wall charge which booted the phone and inserted the battery during the bootup animation. After bootup, the battery level dropped to anywhere from about 95% to about 75%.
It certainly looks like to me that the battery isnt getting fully charged each time.
So maybe with your battery pulls you were actually recalibration you battery and getting a full charge, but after a couple of charges, it was back to normal ie not fully charged.
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
Ilie Mihai said:
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
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1.Might be the battery is dead or broken, or its not calibrated. How old is the phone and battery?
2. It seems to take ages to charge my s3 lte too, give us a number in hours how much time you need?
3. The problem where phone wont turn on or show charging when battery is as low as 1%, i had this too, i think its normal, its protecting the battery
4. Do you have overcloacked anything? It happend to me when i had ovecloaced and did benchamark test, the phone froze and battery eas 5% when i restarted the phone, but before it was 45.
Not realy helpful but i am trying XD. Also might wanna buy new battery, its not that expesive
if you are running stock rom with no rooting no anything....100% it's the battery.
if not install stock and see how it goes...if it's acting normal then the mods are the problem...if it's the same it's the battery.
Do a factory data reset on stock recovery. See how that works out first
Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Nothing good will come from that procedure. Those steps were useful in the epoch of nickel-cadmium batteries, where the battery had no internal circuits to monitor itself and had a tendecy to uncalibrate. Those stops would force the device and the battery to re-adapt to one another.
But now we're using Li-Ion batteries, and those DO NOT like to be fully discharged. Hell, the device might not even recognize the battery, if it has really been fully discharged.
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Okay...so I went to the shop from where I bought my s3 (Orange shop) And they told me to send it to their service and I did so...as I still had it under warranty. It was there for exactly a week and today I got it back. They told me they replaced the battery (which they actually did...I checked that) and the power connector from my phone. The battery it's still not good enaugh in my opinion. Immediately after I got it back...I turned it on and it had 79% battery. In about an hour it went down about 25% (so to 54%) but I didn't used it havely (note: the mobile data option was on). I really do not know what to do. I asked someone and they told me to send it again because this is not normal.
My s3 is running stock 4.3 and used to last waay longer back in the day.
What should I do? I literally got about max 5 hours of use before I sent it and I am afraid this will happen again. I do not even want to think what is going to happen if I listen to music for example.
I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
Ilie Mihai said:
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I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
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I think so, the fact that you have the screen on top of Android OS (and not the other way around) pleases me. You had your screen on for 2h15m, of course your battery went down fast
Test it, charge it full, and use it. Normally.
Do this for 2 or 3 days, and check how the battery lasts