[Battery] Strange anomalies - LG Optimus Black

Hello guys,
I've messed around with OC etc. and I had to take out battery couple of times. After that some of my apps had reseted settings (probably sqlite db corruptions - it happens). Strange thing: after that my battery lasted for 2 days. Before that I was lucky if I got one day on one charge.
Latetly everything went back to normal and no more 2 days without charing.
I didnt installed anything new etc. Maybe market installed some updates - thats all.
Conclusion: something is f*cked up with our phone .;-)

I think it has to do with lg's battery drivers not working well. If you pull the battery (while the phone is running), on next boot the battery level is usually lower. I think that this causes the levels of the battery to be determined again. Normal shutdown looks like it's saving the battery level somewhere instead of determining each boot.
I've noticed one time after a nandroid restore the battery level was the same as when I did the backup. In this instance, I flashed a new rom to try for a couple of hours, then did a nandroid restore. If I remember correctly, it was about 55% when I did the backup, and about 25% just before the restore, afterwards it was back to 55%.
A while again I tried using this method (battery pull) to calibrate the battery. Using the pre #40 cm nightlies, you could boot without the battery in, using the usb charge. The method I used was to charge 100%, shutdown, remove battery, plug in to wall charge which booted the phone and inserted the battery during the bootup animation. After bootup, the battery level dropped to anywhere from about 95% to about 75%.
It certainly looks like to me that the battery isnt getting fully charged each time.
So maybe with your battery pulls you were actually recalibration you battery and getting a full charge, but after a couple of charges, it was back to normal ie not fully charged.

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Using an extended battery

Hi
Got an extended battery for my G1 a few days ago from ebay.
The problem is, the phone doesn't recognized it after I switched the battery. I had the same charging % as the previuos battery right after I changed it (even though I never charged it) and the max use time in Battery time lite is the same....
Any ideas ?
Thanks,
Nati
bad phone ? my ext batterys work fine from ebay
is there any way I can be sure ?
Maybe it a firmware thing ?
natim9 said:
Hi
Got an extended battery for my G1 a few days ago from ebay.
The problem is, the phone doesn't recognized it after I switched the battery. I had the same charging % as the previuos battery right after I changed it (even though I never charged it) and the max use time in Battery time lite is the same....
Any ideas ?
Thanks,
Nati
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I had similar issues when I first got an extended battery (Seidio 2600mA). After performing the steps below, I had no problems at all. I hope it works for you.
Try a COMPLETE drain and recharge cycle, a couple times.
Run the battery down until the phone shuts itself off, restart the phone and let it run until it shuts itself off again. Repeat until it will NOT boot anymore. This will take a surprisingly longer time than you think. Load up your music player, youtube via 3G, etc... kill that thing.
Once the batter is so dead that it can't even load the splash screen for a boot charge it up, but do not turn it on. Let it charge up to full for a few hours (usually four will do it) and turn it on. If it's not at 100% yet, let it charge for a while longer. When it's at 100% take it off the charger and run it down again like before. Run it until it is totally dead.
After a couple cycles like this, you shouldn't have any problem with your phone and battery giving accurate charge status results and operating as it should.
I've read, from a few sources, that between the internal monitoring on the battery works, and the way the G1 reads the battery state, that this complete drain and recharge cycling helps to establish baselines for "empty" and "full" and keep them synchronized. If your phone has never seen an extended battery and the battery was at partial charge when inserted, it may not have been able to accurately gauge the minimum and maximum extents and give faulty readings based on prior battery data.
That could be wrong, and I don't know for sure. But, a complete drain and recharge never hurts anyway, and in my case it actually seemed to solve the problem for me.
Good luck!
-Mark

[Q] How to do the battery reset via Clockworkmod

I've been reading around and is anyone successful with the sequence of
--Charge Phone while on
--wait until fully charged.
--unplug charger
--turn off device
--charge until fully charged.
--unplug charger
--turn on device
--when phone is completely done rebooting turn off
--plug charger again until full
--turn on device and move on
and how does that relate with the reset battery stats on clockwork mod?
can anyone elaborate D:
I tried that method and i didn't see a difference in battery life. Didn't wipe battery stats through clockwork.
I did it the other day when I first saw the post and I seem to be getting better battery life. Could be a typical placebo effect, but my phone sat on 100% for a couple of hours after doing this (with negligible use during that time, except for my compulsive turning on the screen every few mins to see if the battery had dropped - using Fightspit's Super Circle Battery Mod).
The two slight changes I made from the posted steps:
1. My first step was to wipe the battery stats using ClockworkMod. No special knowledge here, and I have no idea if this was a good idea or a bad idea, but I figured the best way to calibrate the battery gauge would be to start the process with no history. I didn't want to add to the old history, I wanted to start fresh.
2. I did the "unplug the phone, turn it on, when it's completely on, turn it off, plug in the charger, charge with phone off until you get the 'full' message'" part an extra two times. Just because. The first "extra" time, it took a few minutes to get the "full" message. The second extra time, the full message was pretty much instant and I was satisfied. I do not recommend doing what I did, because I have no idea whether it could ruin your battery in the short- or long-term.
Also note that my phone had a 43% charge when I first started this process, I didn't drain it until it turned off like some other calibration processes recommend.
Since I did this, I have just been letting it charge regularly overnight (phone on, plugged in) and it feels like the battery numbers drop more slowly with the same usage pattern.

[Q] Whats the proper way to wipe battery stats? (i think thats my problem)

So I was running cognition 2.4.1 for a long time, and my battery life was awesome. It would barely go down at all if I didn't use it, and would make it through the day with about half to spare. On normal days I unplug at 630am and at 5pm it would be at ~70% (if i didn't really use it at all). Even if I did use it it would still last a long time.
I finally decided to flash a new/different rom and thats where my problems started. I flashed Assonance 5.0 and the battery life got worse (at 5pm i was at about 45%) so i just assumed it was the rom and that cognition was better on battery life. So my next flash was back to cognition (a newer version, b7 i think), which improved battery life, but it was barely noticeable, and was no where near what it used to be. Next I tried pheonix v1.5 and that was probably the worst yet, as my phone almost died by 5 oclock.
Finally I decided I would go back to cog 2.4.1 even though it was outdated. I figured this would solve all my problems. I was wrong as my battery life is absolutely terrible right now. At one point yesterday it drained 12 percent in 30 mins.
Something else also happened yesterday. As it was almost going to die i plugged it into my car charger for about 10 mins. It was at 15% when i put it on and 19 when i took it off. After that my battery life was almost normal again as it only drained 4 percent over the next 3 hours. Later on that night I charged it back up to 50 percent and about 10 mins after taking it off the charger it said it was at 5 percent. It stayed at 5 percent for the rest of the night and did not die ( about 4 hours).
Theres definitely a problem and I know it was to do with the battery reading. I think i just need to reset the battery stats.
FYI every time i flash a new rom i always flash back to stock jf6, make sure its 100% battery, wipe data and cache, etc etc etc. so im not sure why this is happening.
I also tried wiping stats through clockworkmod recovery, but i dont think it really does anything.
The proper way to wipe battery stats/recalibrate your battery:
Charge up to 100% with the phone on. Disconnect the charger and turn the phone off. Connect the charger; you're now in charge mode. Charge up to 100%, disconnect the charger and turn on the phone. As soon as the phone is on, turn it off. Connect the charger to put it into charge mode again, and charge up to 100% again. Some people also say that before starting this process it's a good idea to kill the battery completely.
That is how you bump charge, or recalibrate the battery. After bump charging is the best time to wipe battery stats.
I can't find batterystats.bin on the phone to delete it. Is the only way via terminal mode or Clockwork?

[Q] My 1 year old Nook's battery (stats) is doing weird stuff

So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
JanSpatschek said:
So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
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It's almost sure that you battery is degrading very fast. But its my advice to re-calibrate your battery. Set your screen brightness to max setting and leave it on until it shuts down. Now don't power it on. Leave it charging for around 2 and half hour.
Now install geekbench benchmark app and test your battery.
If you heard a pop noise, the battery probably delaminated/micro-exploded. (Li-Ion's tend to swell and fail from the heat of (over)charging.)
There's a company, newpower99.com, who has a YouTube video on replacing the battery in the HD+. The battery sold for $25 US last year, but now that our batteries are beginning to degrade, they're out of stock.
I found another site selling replacement batteries for $80. (portatronics.com)
I've noticed that my screen-on time has dropped from 6 hous to 5.5. Maybe the Nokia N1 will be available and rooted by the time I hit 3 hours.
JanSpatschek said:
So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
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I'm having the same issues, and reading this reminded me of trying BatteryCalibration to reset the battery since my nook HD+ stock OS is rooted.
I had this problem several times before I installed CM. Usually, it happened when there was an update available, and when the Nook started to update, it factory reset itself.
Sent from my *unrooted* ZTE Zinger using the Tapatalk app.

Question Battery software or hardware issues?

I havent installed a custom ROM in a while so I was feeling bored and downloaded a new ROM, copied the files overs and booted to TWRP recovery and wiped everything. I cant remember what all but i think whatever was available to wipe, I wiped
I then installed ADB to my new PC and my phone was not showing up in fastboot or adb (possible driver issues) and eventually the battery died while in the recovery.
I plugged the phone into the charger and it kept showing the battery empty icon and was not charging at all. I left it on charge for hours but nothing happened.
I eventually got a new battery and while the battery still had life in it I charged it full and then went on to install a ROM from my old PC that already had adb and I used to use it previously for installing custom ROMS.
No the phone works but dies randomly at different battery percentages. Sometimes at 60% othertimes at 40% etc..
Battery drain doesnt seem too bad. When I disable wifi, bluetooth and NFC the battery only drains 50% after 24 hours but if I leave wifi on it drains faster.
When I try to play games at 100% battery after 30 minutes the battery would be at 75% and then just shutdown saying 0%.
Then I plug it into the charger and while the phone is off it'll start charging from 0% and when it reaches 25%, if I turn it on it shows 70%
Could I have deleted / wiped files that I was not suppose to that could cause this kind of a problem?
ihsaan said:
I havent installed a custom ROM in a while so I was feeling bored and downloaded a new ROM, copied the files overs and booted to TWRP recovery and wiped everything. I cant remember what all but i think whatever was available to wipe, I wiped
I then installed ADB to my new PC and my phone was not showing up in fastboot or adb (possible driver issues) and eventually the battery died while in the recovery.
I plugged the phone into the charger and it kept showing the battery empty icon and was not charging at all. I left it on charge for hours but nothing happened.
I eventually got a new battery and while the battery still had life in it I charged it full and then went on to install a ROM from my old PC that already had adb and I used to use it previously for installing custom ROMS.
No the phone works but dies randomly at different battery percentages. Sometimes at 60% othertimes at 40% etc..
Battery drain doesnt seem too bad. When I disable wifi, bluetooth and NFC the battery only drains 50% after 24 hours but if I leave wifi on it drains faster.
When I try to play games at 100% battery after 30 minutes the battery would be at 75% and then just shutdown saying 0%.
Then I plug it into the charger and while the phone is off it'll start charging from 0% and when it reaches 25%, if I turn it on it shows 70%
Could I have deleted / wiped files that I was not suppose to that could cause this kind of a problem?
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Try to make a clean ROM installation with prior the fw and formating data with yes.....
Follow installation instructions of the chosen ROM step by step and don't delete everything again except with format data yes
Did you say you installed a new battery? Was it from official service center? You can use some battery monitoring apps like Better Battery stats /GSAM etc and see what's really causing it. Otherwise fresh install, check for few days.
So you got a new battery as a replacement. If you just got this online then there's a high chance the battery is a scam and is not exactly 5020 mAh. I know this because I'm a victim of this too on my older phone, I literally have the same issue. I suggest to get a new replacement, making sure to get it from official Mi Store or service center. In the meantime, calibrate your battery by emptying to 0% (till the phone dies) then charge to 100% while off. Repeat a couple of times and the battery percentage should display correctly. There's also a suggestion of clearing batterybin stats or similar to Poco x3 Pro where you calibrate PMIC, no harm in trying because I tried it before too and it didn't seem to cause any issues.
Here's a link to the guide if you're interested:
Calibration of the PMIC (Vayu/Bhima/Surya) via fastboot.
⚠️HONESTLY READ THIS WARNING ONCE! - CALIBRATION OF THE IC, WOULD NEITHER RESULT IN A HARD BRICK/PREVENT BRICK. AS TO BE CLEAR WITH THIS *HOW TO THREAD*, IS ONLY MENT FOR PEOPLE HAVING PARTIALLY BUGGY PMIC, FACING AFOREMENTIONED ISSUES, HAVING...
forum.xda-developers.com
But the same issue happened on the original battery also
"I cant remember what all but i think whatever was available to wipe, I wiped"
So you wiped internal storage? That's probably causing issues.
Yep I think I did or at least some of it idk.. Can that be fixed?
Re-flash Stock ROM.
BTW: Always use Android USB drivers provided by phone's OEM, not those found in Android platform SDK. Then phone should get detected via USB.

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